IRC log for #bzflag on 20100225

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00:29.27atrixnetby way of announcement I wanted to let everyone know that the groupsdb file is now in effect at atrixnet.com
00:29.54atrixnetanyone in the bzexcess.* groups will have the same permissions at atrixnet.com as they would on any other bzexcess server
00:30.13atrixneti will be adding individual registered callsigns to the atrixnet.* groups in the near future
00:30.32atrixnetI am working with some trusted friends to make sure those groups are set up wisely
00:31.24atrixnetcould any member of a bzexcess group log into atrixnet.com and verify that they are able to get the permissions they should have?  I want to make sure it's working correctly
00:32.12blast007looks to be working
00:32.29atrixnetSWEET!
00:33.17atrixnetthank you for logging in and verifying that
00:33.38blast007:)
00:36.29atrixneti'll log in later to announce this again, and make a post on bzbb as well
00:36.41atrixnetthank you to everyone who helped me get this set up
00:37.16JefferyMbzbb is probalby enough
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02:12.50blast007any fairserv admin online?
02:12.59blast007need someone at port 5254
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02:35.13a_meteoriteblast007: still need someone?
02:35.24blast007maybe
02:35.42blast007wanna hop on there quick?
02:35.46a_meteoriteyeah
02:39.11temporalDi'd lke his current IP
02:41.50a_meteoritetemporalD: you'll have to get Constitution, for some reason it's CONST.* groups instead of FAIRSERVE.*
02:41.54a_meteoritewhich I'm not in
02:42.56temporalDyep, that's what I found too - too bad
02:46.16blast007and sk3 is gone now anyway
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04:46.01Constitutiongreat... ok fairserve admins are in effect now
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17:45.00CIA-88BZFlag: 03blast007 * r20877 10/trunk/db/ (3 files in 2 dirs): The stats site is HTML, not XHTML.
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20:34.58moonpixi've been getting an weird "invalid request" error when trying to join some servers
20:35.19moonpixim on 2.0.8, seems they are running bzfs 2.0.14 and 2.0.15
20:35.27moonpixany clue?
20:36.09moonpixcant join in example any brl.arpa.net server or bztraining.org server
20:36.17moonpixkinda weird..
20:39.37blast007moonpix: there's a slight but with 2.0.14+ servers
20:39.51blast007if you try to spawn too soon, it kicks you off
20:40.07blast007wait until the join is fully completed (as in, you see the player list)
20:40.30moonpixblast, i dont even get the chance to spawn, it doesnt get even the server welcome message
20:40.35moonpixcant login at all
20:40.41blast007huh
20:40.52blast007can you join bzexcess?
20:40.58moonpixhold on
20:41.24blast007guess not
20:41.50moonpixhmm weird
20:42.09blast007moonpix: try to join port 5000 instead (not on the list)
20:42.15moonpixok
20:42.31moonpixworks
20:42.43blast007okay, now let me try pushing it onto the list
20:42.43BlasterWisconsinyeah no problem
20:43.06blast007try joining it again
20:43.09moonpixk
20:43.23blast007(still won't show, but I have it on the list now)
20:43.34moonpixcool - now i cant join :)
20:43.46blast007Host (null) tried to send invalid message before Enter; 28787
20:43.54blast007so let me see what message type that is
20:44.04moonpixoh, it requires hostname to be looked up
20:44.19blast007right, but that's not the problem
20:44.34moonpixah ok
20:44.50blast007hmm, it's sending a player update
20:44.57blast007const uint16_t          MsgPlayerUpdateSmall = 0x7073;          // 'ps'
20:45.06blast00728787 is 7073 in hex
20:45.14moonpixyay - u lost me :)
20:45.30blast007player update is a "my tank is here and moving at this speed" kind of thing
20:45.41moonpixits a new thing tho, i started to get this error recently
20:45.44blast007right
20:45.52blast007"there's a slight but with 2.0.14+ servers"
20:46.06blast007er, meant bug ;)
20:46.13moonpixheheh
20:46.32blast007I'll try to look into that more later
20:46.48moonpixmaybe it has something to do with my distance to the server? (about 250ms lag, i play from brasil)
20:47.12moonpixok - thanks anyways :)
20:47.13blast007worst case I'll just revert the change and push it out to v2_0branch
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22:53.36Constitutionblast007: see if you can get 2.0.15 into debian stable ;)
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23:18.14blast007Constitution: pfft :P
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23:44.49atrixnethai all
23:44.57JefferyMhello
23:45.16atrixnetanyone every seen this error before?  I found a post about it in the forums that is 4 years old.  nobody ever came to a solution
23:45.20atrixnetmy error: Global login rejected; bad token.
23:45.28JefferyMyep
23:45.29atrixnetseeking wisdom from the community :D
23:45.30mrapplecomputer1Your password is wrong
23:45.40atrixnethmmmmmm
23:45.41JefferyMmost of it's due to a proxy server
23:45.48atrixnetand yet i've verified it.
23:45.54atrixneti use it to log in at bzbb with no issues
23:45.57JefferyMpassword rejected don't give a bad token it gives no token
23:46.14JefferyMdo you use a proxy server for web connections?
23:46.16mrapplecomputer1hm ahmm just kidding then :P
23:46.28atrixnetuh I run a local dns caching proxy
23:46.29atrixnetthat's it
23:46.39atrixneti'll disable it for a sec and try again... brb
23:47.18blast007atrixnet: we also run the list on other ports
23:47.20blast00781 for sure
23:47.21JefferyMthe token we send back is unique for that connection, some proxy servers will cache the last login and send the client back the same token, the server knows this is bad and gives you the message
23:47.35JefferyMyeah using port 81 usualy works around the problem
23:48.28atrixnetdisabling the proxy didn't work
23:48.53JefferyMchange the port to the list server in your client config
23:49.09JefferyMthere should be a line that starts with a # that has my.bzflag.org/db
23:49.19JefferyMtake out the # and add :81 after.org
23:50.24atrixnetok
23:50.34atrixnetwell disabling the proxy didn't change anything
23:50.43atrixnetand i logged in here at work; got the error
23:50.55atrixnetthen I ssh'd back to my house and logged in using bzadmin cli tool
23:50.58blast007verify your password is correct then
23:51.00atrixnetgot the same error again
23:51.10JefferyMcapslock and all that
23:51.13atrixneti know the password is correct because i log into the bzbb no problem
23:51.24blast007you could also try logging in via weblogin.php somewhere.
23:51.42atrixneti think I'll look in my client config
23:51.47atrixneti wasn't aware there was such a thing
23:51.53atrixneti'll try port 81
23:51.54blast007http://bzstats.strayer.de/  <--- hit there, and go to the "login for paranoiacs" link
23:51.58atrixnetand we'll see what happens
23:52.08atrixnetok i'll do that too blast...
23:52.10blast007just to verify that your name/password is working
23:52.38JefferyMwhy can't he just have a login button?
23:52.52atrixneti just logged into bzstats.strayer.de no issues
23:52.57atrixnetlogin succeeded no problem
23:53.04blast007k
23:53.07atrixneti'll look in my client config now...
23:53.12blast007http://my.bzflag.org/w/Common_Support_Issues#Global_Login_Not_Identifying
23:53.22blast007that gives all the info there necessary to make it use port 81
23:53.26atrixnetalthough i think it odd that this problem happens to me both at work AND at home
23:53.36blast007shrugs
23:53.50JefferyMis so glad he did client auth with UDP :)
23:54.04blast007hehe
23:54.26blast007JefferyM: another benefit of not use HTTP would be that firewalls and antivirus don't flag the game as a browser and then block UDP access...
23:54.29JefferyMwith ssl style crypto too, no passwords in the clear :)
23:54.36blast007not using*
23:54.42JefferyMheh
23:54.55JefferyMwell I do send out an HTTP request for the server list
23:55.06atrixnetmy.bzflag.org/db  ... this form is very cryptic
23:55.08JefferyMauth and server list are NOT the same service in my system
23:55.26atrixnetfears screwing something up thatz important
23:55.34JefferyMyou can't
23:55.50atrixnetdo I simply put 81 in the nameport form field and hit post entry?
23:55.56blast007no
23:56.05blast007you don't need to do anything there
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23:56.11blast007you want to edit your config file
23:56.13JefferyMedit your local config file
23:56.22blast007read the info on the link I pasted
23:56.26atrixnetkk
23:59.50JefferyMI guess I could do list access over UDP too
23:59.52JefferyMif need be

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