| 00:01.58 | blast007 | I can in a bit here |
| 00:02.06 | JeffM2501 | k |
| 00:03.29 | trepan | JeffM2501: untie, apropos ;) |
| 00:03.55 | BulletCatcher | I just upgraded all of the BRL servers to 2.0.14. |
| 00:03.57 | BulletCatcher | I won't bother to rebuild just for the .vcproj change. :-) |
| 00:04.12 | JeffM2501 | yeah it's a windows client only thing |
| 00:04.24 | JeffM2501 | and the build that they make IS valid, just don't have glew |
| 00:07.14 | JeffM2501 | trepan, sadly the quote was not mine, saw it on a shirt somewhere :) |
| 00:07.43 | JeffM2501 | zip is uploading now installer in a sec |
| 00:07.50 | JeffM2501 | or 90 |
| 00:13.47 | JeffM2501 | k, all updated |
| 00:14.10 | JeffM2501 | doubts anyone will even notice that the zip is different then the tarballs :) |
| 00:17.34 | dexter- | is there a way I can get profont back? |
| 00:17.37 | dexter- | i can't look at that other font |
| 00:17.51 | JeffM2501 | copy it from your other install |
| 00:18.11 | JeffM2501 | it is highly unlikely that the author will sue you |
| 00:18.19 | brad | yep copying worked for me |
| 00:18.40 | JeffM2501 | but we can't "recomend" that as an official solution :) |
| 00:18.54 | JeffM2501 | the best solution would be to get the author to open source the font |
| 00:19.17 | JeffM2501 | because even with 3.0 you'll have to manualy install it, we can't ship with it. |
| 00:20.49 | blast007 | JeffM2501: so the tag has the fix? |
| 00:20.57 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 00:21.15 | blast007 | k |
| 00:21.22 | blast007 | I'll repackage the other two |
| 00:21.57 | JeffM2501 | cool, thanks |
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| 00:22.33 | AAA_awright | The usage of a bzflag/ directory inside a tag is inconsistent, so it's hard to figure out what's a BZFlag tag, what's a BZEdit tag, etc |
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| 00:28.10 | JeffM2501 | there are bzedit tags? |
| 00:28.33 | JeffM2501 | but yeah, tim's docs don't realy allow for other products |
| 00:28.45 | JeffM2501 | like how would we tag "web" or "db" |
| 00:28.54 | JeffM2501 | probably should make product dirs in tag |
| 00:30.33 | blast007 | JeffM2501: how did you update the file? just upload it again in the web interface? |
| 00:31.05 | blast007 | or did you delete it first? |
| 00:32.26 | JeffM2501 | I overwrote it in the ssh |
| 00:32.35 | blast007 | k, I'll try that |
| 00:32.44 | blast007 | seems like it reset the download count anyway |
| 00:34.16 | JeffM2501 | yeah it will |
| 00:34.21 | JeffM2501 | and it'll blow out the metadata |
| 00:34.49 | blast007 | bleh, can't do it that way |
| 00:35.01 | blast007 | I'll just do it in the web ;) |
| 00:49.18 | blast007 | well, the tar.bz2 is updated for sure |
| 00:49.27 | blast007 | trying to verify the tar.gz |
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| 00:50.07 | blast007 | think the .gz is still copying to the mirrors |
| 00:53.30 | blast007 | okay, that one is definately updated too :) |
| 00:59.55 | blast007 | do we want to update the "Download" wiki page, or should I just change the link on the home page's sidebar to link to the SF.net download page? |
| 01:00.06 | blast007 | the big download image on the homepage already links to the SF.net page |
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| 01:13.02 | jeffm | the main page points to sf |
| 01:13.08 | jeffm | dosn't use that download thing anympore |
| 01:13.19 | jeffm | the sidebar should match the button |
| 01:14.45 | blast007 | yeah, I just updated the page to point to SF |
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| 01:31.04 | SparkyXI | holy crap I was running 2.0.10 |
| 01:31.05 | SparkyXI | xD |
| 01:31.29 | jeffm | on what OS? |
| 01:31.57 | SparkyXI | Win7 |
| 01:32.07 | jeffm | then that makes sens, 10 was the last windows release |
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| 01:32.11 | SparkyXI | ahhh |
| 01:32.20 | dexter- | byes |
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| 01:32.31 | SparkyXI | which file do I copy over from my old 2.0.10 folder for my settings? |
| 01:32.49 | jeffm | you don't |
| 01:32.52 | jeffm | we'll do it for you |
| 01:33.02 | jeffm | all the 2.0.x ones use the same file |
| 01:33.06 | temporalD | settings are external to the application, just run the new one |
| 01:33.19 | jeffm | 3.0 copies the settings from 2.0.x for you |
| 01:33.26 | jeffm | then uses a new file |
| 01:34.17 | SparkyXI | Awesome. Yes it does. Quick and dirty on new features? |
| 01:34.22 | SparkyXI | anything stick out? |
| 01:34.22 | jeffm | none |
| 01:34.31 | SparkyXI | ok. just bug fixes then. |
| 01:34.33 | jeffm | it's just to change the fonts |
| 01:34.40 | SparkyXI | really? |
| 01:34.43 | jeffm | did you even read the news post? |
| 01:34.50 | SparkyXI | lol. no. I suppose I should. |
| 01:35.04 | SparkyXI | Thanks guys - see you on bzf. |
| 01:35.05 | jeffm | the old fonts had invalid licenses |
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| 01:49.29 | blast007 | hmm, is the download count supposed to update in real-time? all four still show 0 |
| 01:49.48 | jeffm | dunno |
| 01:50.03 | blast007 | guess we'll wait and see ;) |
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| 02:30.48 | BulletCatcher | I think the SF download counter is not working. |
| 02:35.50 | trepan | is it supposed to update immediately following downloads? (or is it adjusted on a daily basis, or some such) |
| 02:36.52 | BulletCatcher | Before we replaced the files, at least the .exe counter had advanced. |
| 02:39.13 | blast007 | BulletCatcher: I could delete one and add it again quick |
| 02:39.21 | BulletCatcher | That would be an easy test. |
| 02:39.25 | blast007 | k, 1 sec |
| 02:42.12 | jeffm | do we care? |
| 02:43.36 | blast007 | shrugs |
| 02:43.42 | blast007 | be nice having some numbers though |
| 02:43.52 | blast007 | I re-uploaded the tar.gz as a test |
| 02:44.15 | blast007 | waiting for it to show up |
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| 02:54.39 | blast007 | well, that didn't see to do anything |
| 02:55.01 | blast007 | maybe we just got lucky before and it ran an update cycle |
| 02:55.27 | blast007 | ah, bet it does it at midnight UTC, which was around 3 hours ago |
| 02:56.10 | BulletCatcher | Could be, but I remember bzflag-2.0.14.exe showing 4 downloads before that. |
| 02:56.43 | BulletCatcher | Anyway, if it doesn't show anything by this time tomorrow we can ask SF about it. |
| 02:57.34 | blast007 | I think we had that up before midnight UTC |
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| 02:58.05 | BulletCatcher | Yes, and the 4 showed up before midnight UTC. |
| 02:58.25 | blast007 | shrugs |
| 02:58.31 | blast007 | we'll find out in 24 hours ;) |
| 02:58.33 | BulletCatcher | shrugs too |
| 02:58.47 | blast007 | and then we could always poke at SF support |
| 03:01.44 | trepan | no MOTD for 2.0.14 yet? ;) |
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| 03:08.04 | blast007 | oh yeah, that |
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| 04:28.10 | mrapplecomputer1 | btw, uh, im getting 2.0.15 as a version number |
| 04:28.17 | mrapplecomputer1 | was that planned for? |
| 04:28.27 | temporalD | yes |
| 04:28.33 | mrapplecomputer1 | ok |
| 04:28.54 | temporalD | dev code is the last release +1 |
| 04:28.59 | mrapplecomputer1 | ah got it |
| 04:29.08 | mrapplecomputer1 | makes sense now :P |
| 04:29.08 | temporalD | probably there will never be any additions to .15 |
| 04:30.34 | mrapplecomputer1 | has anyone made a compiled .app for osx yet? |
| 04:30.37 | jeffm | there better not be |
| 04:30.57 | jeffm | brlcad and Constitution are going to make one in the next day or so |
| 04:31.04 | mrapplecomputer1 | ah ok ty jeffm |
| 04:31.16 | mrapplecomputer1 | are you going to use installer this time or just the good ol drag and drop |
| 04:31.32 | temporalD | no reason for installer on OSX |
| 04:31.32 | jeffm | there is no need for a bzflag installer |
| 04:31.37 | mrapplecomputer1 | ok |
| 04:31.41 | jeffm | it dosn't need any system components |
| 04:31.52 | mrapplecomputer1 | hm makes sense |
| 04:32.12 | mrapplecomputer1 | also triming it down from 100mb might be nice |
| 04:32.15 | jeffm | I am asking them to add things like docs, and extras to the dmg this time |
| 04:32.23 | jeffm | that depends on who makes it |
| 04:32.34 | jeffm | Constitution will strip it, brlcad will leave it phat ;) |
| 04:32.40 | temporalD | hehe |
| 04:32.41 | mrapplecomputer1 | when i compile, my app turns out to be aroun 18mb, much more resonable :P |
| 04:32.53 | mrapplecomputer1 | heh ok ty jeffm |
| 04:32.57 | jeffm | yes, we shipped debug versions before |
| 04:33.02 | jeffm | to get more info about mac crashes |
| 04:33.07 | jeffm | since it's kinda buggy |
| 04:35.02 | mrapplecomputer1 | ok, sounds good |
| 04:42.30 | Constitution | did we tag? |
| 04:42.45 | jeffm | ohh yeah |
| 04:42.49 | jeffm | build that sucker |
| 04:42.55 | jeffm | all the other OSs are already up |
| 04:43.11 | Constitution | with pleasure |
| 05:04.30 | brlcad | stripped is practically useless for debugging when bzflag crashes |
| 05:04.35 | brlcad | disk space is cheap and a one-time download cost |
| 05:04.46 | brlcad | debugging symbols pay off repeatedly |
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| 05:08.37 | jeffm | it's download time that bugs them I think |
| 05:12.45 | jeffm | but you are techincaly correct |
| 05:12.49 | jeffm | and you do have to support it |
| 05:12.57 | jeffm | and if crashes are a big issue, it makes sense |
| 05:13.27 | jeffm | I'd not do it for windows if I could, as usualy we can figure out it's issues (mostly crap drivers). |
| 05:14.19 | jeffm | well I could for windows but it'd cost us 500$ :) |
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| 05:50.53 | Constitution | I have not heard of consistent crashing being a problem for mac |
| 05:51.06 | Constitution | I've used it for years and it has rarely crashed for me |
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| 06:59.31 | BulletCatcher | Download counts at SourceForge are increasing now. |
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| 09:32.06 | Constitution | any mac users still up? |
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| 10:53.07 | Constitution | mac build is up... 10.3 - 10.6 unibin |
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| 11:16.40 | delusional | I'll try it |
| 11:21.58 | delusional | Constitution doubleclicking... it starts to open and then closes |
| 11:22.14 | delusional | 10.6 |
| 11:22.24 | Constitution | really? |
| 11:22.30 | delusional | really |
| 11:22.41 | Constitution | can you try in the terminal? |
| 11:22.46 | delusional | -bash: ./Users/delusional/Desktop/BZFlag-2.0.14.app: No such file or directory |
| 11:23.09 | Constitution | ./Users/delusional/Desktop/BZFlag-2.0.14.app/Contents/MacOS/bzflag |
| 11:23.30 | delusional | same |
| 11:23.34 | delusional | did that |
| 11:23.48 | Constitution | er, without the period in front |
| 11:24.10 | delusional | directly from the .dmg -bash: /Volumes/BZFlag 2.0.14/BZFlag-2.0.14.app: is a directory |
| 11:24.42 | Constitution | the actual executable is inside it, in BZFlag-2.0.14.app/Contents/MacOS/bzflag |
| 11:25.55 | delusional | looks like the -directory isnt set |
| 11:26.31 | Constitution | add -directory /path/to/BZFlag-2.0.14.app/Contents/Resources |
| 11:27.14 | delusional | that appears to work |
| 11:27.18 | Constitution | it runs? |
| 11:27.22 | delusional | yes |
| 11:27.56 | Constitution | can you try moving ~/Library/Application Support/BZFlag and try double-clicking again? |
| 11:30.32 | delusional | it creates the new folder, but then quits |
| 11:31.01 | Constitution | what kind of hardware do you have? |
| 11:31.23 | delusional | recent 27 inch mac, latest OS |
| 11:32.49 | Constitution | can you open /Applications/Utilities/Console, double-click again, and see what bzflag-related messages (should have "Sender" bzflag something) it gives |
| 11:34.21 | delusional | ok, appears that the new mountins are messed up.. too tall, badly matched |
| 11:35.14 | delusional | 2/15/10 6:30:11 AM[0x0-0xde1de1].org.BZFlag[19341]No fonts found (the -directory option may help). Exiting |
| 11:35.40 | Constitution | wha |
| 11:37.01 | delusional | 2/15/10 6:30:56 AMcom.apple.launchd.peruser.501[93]([0x0-0xde2de2].org.BZFlag[19351]) Exited with exit code: 1 |
| 11:38.22 | Constitution | do those two come together when you open it? |
| 11:38.29 | delusional | yes |
| 11:38.50 | delusional | and only before i set -directory |
| 11:39.00 | Constitution | what about now? |
| 11:39.17 | delusional | after setting -dir, it appears fine |
| 11:39.40 | Constitution | even double-clicking? |
| 11:39.52 | delusional | yeah |
| 11:40.03 | delusional | you only need to set -dir once |
| 11:40.31 | Constitution | you shouldn't have to set it at all, except when running from the command line |
| 11:40.49 | delusional | well, I do have to set it |
| 11:40.49 | Constitution | since bzflag looks inside the application package for all the data |
| 11:41.06 | Constitution | try removing it and double-clicking the .app again |
| 11:43.07 | delusional | the resources file? |
| 11:43.17 | delusional | from the package? |
| 11:43.26 | Constitution | no, the -directory option from your conf, or just move your conf |
| 11:44.30 | delusional | back to the way it was, starts to open, closes |
| 11:44.45 | delusional | 2/15/10 6:44:03 AM[0x0-0xde8de8].org.BZFlag[19396]No fonts found (the -directory option may help). Exiting |
| 11:44.56 | delusional | 2/15/10 6:44:03 AMcom.apple.launchd.peruser.501[93]([0x0-0xde8de8].org.BZFlag[19396]) Exited with exit code: 1 |
| 11:48.55 | Constitution | ok hang on |
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| 11:54.34 | Constitution | delusional: not sure what the problem is... bzflag should always check the application package for fonts first |
| 11:54.46 | Constitution | I'll try it with a fresh install of leopard on my machine to see if I can reproduce it |
| 11:54.55 | delusional | i got 30 minutes |
| 11:56.42 | Constitution | won't have it done on time... I'll have to check with you later |
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| 15:29.24 | Constitution | mrapplecomputer1: how are they messed up? |
| 15:29.39 | mrapplecomputer1 | lemme take a screenshot |
| 15:32.19 | mrapplecomputer1 | heres some messed up mountains http://bzbureau.com/14/ |
| 15:32.48 | Constitution | lol |
| 15:32.53 | mrapplecomputer1 | :P |
| 15:33.12 | blast007 | that's weird |
| 15:33.20 | mrapplecomputer1 | heres 2.0.10 text http://bzbureau.com/14/bzfi1359.png |
| 15:33.41 | mrapplecomputer1 | heres 2.0.14 text: http://bzbureau.com/14/bzfi1364.png |
| 15:33.52 | Constitution | profont was taken out |
| 15:34.00 | mrapplecomputer1 | hmm that explains it |
| 15:34.07 | brad | copy it over from 2.0.10 |
| 15:34.09 | brad | that works fine |
| 15:34.13 | mrapplecomputer1 | ok |
| 15:34.16 | mrapplecomputer1 | but the mountains :P |
| 15:34.18 | blast007 | you font also doesn't look like it's at the default (auto) size |
| 15:35.27 | blast007 | your* |
| 15:37.55 | mrapplecomputer1 | hmm i replaced the font files but it still doesnt work o.o |
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| 15:41.28 | mrapplecomputer1 | it still using DeJaVu even when i have ProFont set in my config |
| 15:42.10 | Constitution | mrapplecomputer1: those mountains aren't even in the .app package as far as I can tell |
| 15:42.20 | mrapplecomputer1 | i know wierd isnt it |
| 15:42.28 | mrapplecomputer1 | i was just looking at that |
| 15:43.16 | Constitution | can you post your config please |
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| 15:44.43 | mrapplecomputer1 | sure |
| 15:45.28 | mrapplecomputer1 | http://bzflag.pastebin.com/d67933f72 |
| 15:49.04 | mrapplecomputern | er |
| 15:49.24 | Constitution | my client doesn't do that when using your config |
| 15:49.38 | blast007 | mrapplecomputer1: did you 'make install' a copy of trunk? :P |
| 15:50.03 | Constitution | heh |
| 15:50.14 | blast007 | guesses yes |
| 15:50.20 | mrapplecomputer1 | uh yes |
| 15:50.29 | blast007 | 'make uninstall' that |
| 15:50.41 | blast007 | this is why I tell people to not use 'make install' on OSX ;) |
| 15:50.46 | Constitution | haha |
| 15:50.47 | blast007 | it doesn't work |
| 15:50.49 | mrapplecomputer1 | heh |
| 15:51.00 | mrapplecomputer1 | i don have the source |
| 15:51.14 | mrapplecomputer1 | i mean, i dont have the copy i used to install it with |
| 15:51.20 | Constitution | reinstall the OS |
| 15:51.23 | blast007 | lol.. |
| 15:51.32 | mrapplecomputer1 | cant i just rm bzfs? |
| 15:51.36 | blast007 | it's not bzfs |
| 15:51.40 | blast007 | it's the resource files |
| 15:51.44 | mrapplecomputer1 | oh |
| 15:51.47 | mrapplecomputer1 | where are those :P |
| 15:51.57 | blast007 | find / -name mountain1.png or whatever the texture is called |
| 15:53.07 | mrapplecomputer1 | searching... |
| 15:54.24 | blast007 | *three days later* |
| 15:54.55 | brlcad | :) |
| 15:55.13 | mrapplecomputer1 | well ive been meaning to reinstall anyways :P |
| 15:55.21 | blast007 | hehe |
| 15:55.23 | mrapplecomputer1 | found it |
| 15:55.50 | blast007 | and not the one in the .app? ;D |
| 15:55.53 | mrapplecomputer1 | nope |
| 15:55.58 | mrapplecomputer1 | it already found all of those :P |
| 15:55.58 | blast007 | :) |
| 15:56.08 | mrapplecomputer1 | its in /usr/local/share/bzflag |
| 15:56.17 | mrapplecomputer1 | and its called mountain4 and mountain5 :D |
| 15:58.19 | Constitution | bzflag's mountains are so versatile, it only take 3 of them to appear realistic ;) |
| 15:58.41 | mrapplecomputer1 | heh |
| 15:58.55 | mrapplecomputer1 | yay mountains and fonts are now not messeed up :P |
| 15:59.14 | mrapplecomputer1 | i just deleted the entire /usr/local/share/bzflag dir :D |
| 15:59.36 | Constitution | when did you install your system? |
| 15:59.46 | mrapplecomputer1 | like os? |
| 16:00.02 | Constitution | yes |
| 16:04.07 | mrapplecomputer1 | uh, whenever snow leopard came out |
| 16:04.13 | mrapplecomputer1 | somewhere around there |
| 16:07.54 | brlcad | waits for the CIA spammage |
| 16:08.05 | brlcad | CIA is coming back on-line now |
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| 16:57.47 | demosthenes63 | howdy all...anyone here |
| 16:57.56 | JefferyM | yep |
| 16:58.02 | demosthenes63 | cool |
| 16:58.21 | demosthenes63 | i just started playing bzflag with my daughter |
| 16:58.30 | JefferyM | cool |
| 16:58.41 | BulletCatcher | Hope you can keep up with her. :-) |
| 16:59.10 | demosthenes63 | I want to limit the types of flags...is there a way to do this via the .conf file or is it going to be hard than that to make any changes |
| 16:59.38 | JefferyM | limit them on a server you start? |
| 16:59.44 | demosthenes63 | yup |
| 16:59.45 | JefferyM | or on any server you happen to join? |
| 16:59.55 | demosthenes63 | on my server |
| 17:00.01 | JefferyM | you can add flags with +f |
| 17:00.09 | JefferyM | and the flag type |
| 17:00.18 | JefferyM | so you can add them one at a time |
| 17:00.31 | demosthenes63 | via command line ? |
| 17:00.47 | JefferyM | or config for the server |
| 17:01.10 | demosthenes63 | sweet...thats what i'm looking for |
| 17:01.19 | JefferyM | you can not do it using the in game "start" menu |
| 17:01.22 | JefferyM | it only has limited options |
| 17:01.36 | JefferyM | there should be a page on the wiki with all the options for bzfs |
| 17:02.32 | demosthenes63 | ya i've been reading volumes of stuff but most of it is more confusing than not |
| 17:02.47 | JefferyM | http://my.bzflag.org/w/BZFS_Command_Line_Options |
| 17:03.11 | demosthenes63 | i have a copy of my .conf file open but nothing is commented |
| 17:03.15 | JefferyM | you can use +f to add flags or -f to force specific flags to not be spawned |
| 17:03.36 | JefferyM | what conf are you talking about? the one for the client? |
| 17:03.45 | JefferyM | because we don't ship a server conf |
| 17:03.49 | JefferyM | they have to be made |
| 17:04.21 | JefferyM | server and client use different settings, the in game menu is just a convinient way to start a simple server. |
| 17:04.51 | demosthenes63 | i went hunting in my files and found a config file I assume it is generated when I start the server |
| 17:04.55 | JefferyM | to get all the options out of a server you have to run it from command line with ether a list of options, or it's own seperate conf file |
| 17:05.01 | JefferyM | where was the file |
| 17:05.02 | JefferyM | ? |
| 17:05.25 | demosthenes63 | one sec... |
| 17:07.06 | demosthenes63 | it twas here /willebanks/.bzf/2.0/.conf |
| 17:07.31 | JefferyM | and it contains things like this? #set animatedTreads 1 |
| 17:07.45 | demosthenes63 | yup that the stuff |
| 17:08.01 | JefferyM | yeah that is for the client |
| 17:08.01 | JefferyM | the server can't read that |
| 17:08.10 | JefferyM | a server conf is just a list of command line options |
| 17:08.23 | demosthenes63 | crap figured it wasn't going to be that easy |
| 17:08.45 | JefferyM | the in game server menu dosn't generate a conf file for the server, it just feeds the options in the command line when it starts the executable |
| 17:09.04 | JefferyM | you don't NEED a conf file for a server, it's just a handy way to pack up a lot of options |
| 17:09.33 | JefferyM | the page I linked has all the options and a section on how to make a conf file |
| 17:09.39 | JefferyM | really it's just one option per line |
| 17:09.53 | JefferyM | then start bzfs with -conf and the file name |
| 17:09.54 | demosthenes63 | right now i run at the command line bzflag -solo 12 |
| 17:10.07 | JefferyM | that's for the client, to make bots |
| 17:10.21 | JefferyM | you can still do that if you start the server externaly |
| 17:10.27 | demosthenes63 | this way we can play with "bots" which makes thing a little more interesting |
| 17:10.28 | JefferyM | bots are run by the client not the server |
| 17:11.21 | JefferyM | the wiki has a sample conf file for a server to get you started |
| 17:11.34 | JefferyM | with lots of comments |
| 17:11.50 | JefferyM | and there is a full category on how to start a server |
| 17:11.52 | JefferyM | it's not too hard |
| 17:12.06 | JefferyM | specialy if it dosn't have to be public |
| 17:12.43 | demosthenes63 | sweet....do I put this ".conf" file in a particular directory |
| 17:13.00 | JefferyM | no |
| 17:13.25 | JefferyM | you have to start bzfs from the commnd line with the -conf option and tell it where the file is |
| 17:13.47 | JefferyM | so bzfs -conf the/loc/of/your/file.conf |
| 17:13.59 | JefferyM | that starts a server |
| 17:14.07 | JefferyM | then you run the client and join that server |
| 17:14.42 | demosthenes63 | oh that doesn't seem to bad...and I adjust the file to may needs and its off to tyhe races... |
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| 17:15.04 | JefferyM | yeah |
| 17:15.18 | demosthenes63 | what was that web addy |
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| 17:15.50 | JefferyM | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:17.07 | demosthenes63 | and where is the example file....i can see the commands there but an example file would really b helpful |
| 17:17.34 | JefferyM | read the page |
| 17:17.41 | JefferyM | there is a link to it in the config section |
| 17:18.57 | demosthenes63 | cool...thanks for the help...this is a great game and a perfect way for my to spend time with my daughter without a TV |
| 17:19.02 | JefferyM | Constitution, brlcad who won the symbols/no symbols fight? |
| 17:19.10 | JefferyM | cool :) |
| 17:19.25 | JefferyM | oooo 51 megs, I think brlcad won |
| 17:19.53 | demosthenes63 | see ya |
| 17:19.58 | JefferyM | have fun |
| 17:20.30 | JefferyM | good job getting the mac up the same day as the others, now it can be considered a real OS ;) |
| 17:21.32 | BulletCatcher | Yes. BZFlag-2.0.14.dmg worked fine in a brief test on my 10.4.11 MacBook. Good job, Constitution. |
| 17:22.27 | BulletCatcher | He said "plugins don't load right when it's fully stripped", so point, game, and match goes to brlcad. |
| 17:22.44 | JefferyM | heh |
| 17:22.51 | JefferyM | sucks that it can't load em with out it |
| 17:22.53 | JefferyM | but whatever |
| 17:23.59 | BulletCatcher | I bet the size could be reduced by not compiling with -g to get all of the debug symbols, but it works as is. |
| 17:24.14 | JefferyM | 51 isn't too bad |
| 17:24.29 | JefferyM | just sucks that there are still unknonw little "things" with the mac build |
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| 18:07.09 | Constitution | yeah I was trying to keep the compiling/assembling time to under six hours of trial-and-error, so I didn't feel like messing with optimizations much :P |
| 18:08.13 | temporalD | the posted DMG works fine on my work G5 with 10.5.8 |
| 18:08.43 | Constitution | configure errors out when you try to build for an older sdk, and building for other architectures produces md5 errors, so basically you have to build it on old versions and on separate architectures |
| 18:09.26 | Constitution | then manually combine every executable and plugin binary into dual-arch versions |
| 18:09.52 | Constitution | an utter PITA |
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| 19:32.54 | Runic | fyi, I added a patch on SF for BzWorkbench |
| 19:35.37 | Runic | have more but figured it would be easier to do them one at a time |
| 19:48.48 | blast007 | Runic: do you have any directions to reproduce the issue? |
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| 20:01.13 | brad | hah, server detaults to '800x600' with a fresh config |
| 20:01.31 | brad | (that being the screen res in windowed mode) |
| 20:01.44 | dexter- | i can't play with the new font |
| 20:01.45 | JeffM2501 | you mean client |
| 20:02.08 | brad | the server in the client, Jeff |
| 20:02.23 | JeffM2501 | server in the client? |
| 20:02.25 | brad | the default server host/ip that shows when you first start bz |
| 20:02.36 | brad | on the join game menu? |
| 20:02.36 | JeffM2501 | what's that have to do with screen resolution? |
| 20:02.44 | brad | it doesn't. that's why I told you. |
| 20:02.45 | JeffM2501 | the server has no screen res |
| 20:03.04 | JeffM2501 | "<brad> hah, server detaults to '800x600' with a fresh config" |
| 20:03.20 | dexter- | uh and did the header image size change? |
| 20:03.23 | brad | let me try again |
| 20:03.39 | JeffM2501 | the header image changed, but it should be the same size |
| 20:03.53 | brad | when you go to the 'Join Game' menu for the first time, with a default config, the default server address is '800x600' |
| 20:04.01 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
| 20:04.08 | JeffM2501 | that is indeed odd |
| 20:05.25 | brad | tries clearing config just incase that was a one-off |
| 20:05.56 | brad | nope, did it again |
| 20:06.06 | JeffM2501 | probably just a bug |
| 20:06.24 | brad | an odd one :) |
| 20:06.36 | dexter- | i need to compile a new client if i wanna change the HUD font? |
| 20:06.43 | JeffM2501 | dexter-, no |
| 20:06.51 | brad | copy fonts over from .10 |
| 20:06.53 | dexter- | i know there was a line that one could change |
| 20:06.54 | dexter- | i did |
| 20:06.56 | JeffM2501 | just put whatever fonts you want in the data dir and use em |
| 20:06.57 | brad | config then |
| 20:06.58 | blast007 | and it's only when you run it windowed the first time, so it's minor |
| 20:07.00 | blast007 | but still odd |
| 20:07.00 | JeffM2501 | you have to set the config |
| 20:07.05 | blast007 | (doesn't do it in 2.0.10) |
| 20:07.19 | JeffM2501 | as long as it's cool for v3 |
| 20:07.20 | brad | blast007: but but! the world might end if it isn't fixed! |
| 20:07.27 | blast007 | brad: thus 2012 |
| 20:07.33 | brad | :O |
| 20:07.33 | JeffM2501 | brad, good, then we won't fix it |
| 20:07.37 | brad | ok, cool |
| 20:07.38 | JeffM2501 | so that it can end |
| 20:07.45 | JeffM2501 | and we can start anew |
| 20:08.21 | dexter- | where in config? |
| 20:08.28 | JeffM2501 | depends on your OS |
| 20:08.42 | JeffM2501 | if you were happy with .10, keep using .10 |
| 20:08.52 | JeffM2501 | .14 isn't going to be magically better |
| 20:09.13 | dexter- | yeah it will |
| 20:09.15 | blast007 | well, the windows users will get nagged to upgrade every time they start .10 |
| 20:09.17 | dexter- | my textures will stop looking like crap |
| 20:09.17 | blast007 | :P |
| 20:09.26 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 20:09.28 | catay | or wait till .16 ;P |
| 20:09.35 | JeffM2501 | there better not be a 16 |
| 20:09.36 | dexter- | and it's frowned upon in leagues if you use out of date clients |
| 20:09.46 | JeffM2501 | .14.2 sure, but no 16 |
| 20:10.11 | dexter- | 2.0.14.2? |
| 20:10.15 | dexter- | that's horrible lol |
| 20:10.16 | catay | heh |
| 20:10.24 | dexter- | this should've been 2.1 |
| 20:10.27 | dexter- | just makes it easier.. |
| 20:10.34 | dexter- | or 2.0.10 should have been 2.1 :) |
| 20:10.42 | JeffM2501 | no, it's a maintenance update for 2.0.x |
| 20:10.47 | blast007 | JeffM2501: I went cheap with the MOTD version for the upgrade notice ;) made it do it for any 2.0.x built with VC71, hehe |
| 20:10.50 | JeffM2501 | it has the same bassic featureset as 2.0.0 |
| 20:10.57 | JeffM2501 | cool |
| 20:11.16 | blast007 | we could have a better one for 3.0.0 |
| 20:11.20 | blast007 | this way seems so hackish |
| 20:11.20 | dexter- | what is the hud font called in conf? |
| 20:11.20 | JeffM2501 | and it would have had to have been 2.2 |
| 20:11.30 | dexter- | cpanelfont? |
| 20:11.38 | JeffM2501 | odds are not suposed to be released |
| 20:11.50 | dexter- | JeffM2501: and what font did we have before we used this? |
| 20:11.59 | JeffM2501 | dexter-, 3 others |
| 20:12.16 | JeffM2501 | I don't recall the names |
| 20:12.49 | dexter- | well what is the one we use now called? |
| 20:13.02 | blast007 | dexter-: look at your fonts directory |
| 20:13.09 | blast007 | in bz |
| 20:13.16 | blast007 | for bz* |
| 20:13.24 | dexter- | ye |
| 20:13.30 | dexter- | ya.. |
| 20:14.00 | dexter- | LuxiMono seems like it is it |
| 20:14.31 | dexter- | not wure what VeraMonoBold was |
| 20:14.36 | dexter- | TogaSerifBold |
| 20:14.37 | JeffM2501 | menu |
| 20:14.45 | dexter- | Toga was in game stuff on HUD? |
| 20:15.58 | brlcad | Constitution: nice work on making the dmg, all works here nicely |
| 20:17.10 | blast007 | dexter-: here, look in these files for the defaults, and compare: |
| 20:17.12 | blast007 | http://bzflag.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/bzflag/tags/v2_0_12/src/bzflag/defaultBZDB.cxx?revision=17841&view=markup |
| 20:17.19 | blast007 | http://bzflag.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/bzflag/tags/v2_0_14/src/bzflag/defaultBZDB.cxx?revision=20845&view=markup |
| 20:17.22 | dexter- | oh ty |
| 20:17.27 | dexter- | i was just going through logs |
| 20:18.22 | dexter- | nothing has changed |
| 20:18.26 | dexter- | it was like that in 2.0.12 too |
| 20:18.34 | blast007 | eh |
| 20:18.43 | JeffM2501 | the fonts were changed in some .13 version |
| 20:18.53 | blast007 | font was toga in 2.0.12, dejavu in 2.0.14 |
| 20:19.16 | blast007 | so yes, it changed |
| 20:22.30 | dexter- | i remember compiling .13 and it being different from 2.0.10 |
| 20:22.51 | JeffM2501 | yeah.... |
| 20:23.02 | dexter- | yeah ok i see it here |
| 20:23.05 | JeffM2501 | because it changed between 12 and 14.. that'd be somewhere in the 13 time ;) |
| 20:23.12 | JeffM2501 | 13 = dev, dev = change. |
| 20:23.14 | dexter- | yeah, |
| 20:23.30 | dexter- | yea, it was when 2.0.12 "came out" |
| 20:23.40 | dexter- | and I compiled on mac, which never had an official .12 build |
| 20:23.41 | JeffM2501 | 12 had the same fonts as 10 |
| 20:23.44 | dexter- | thus it was .13 and i got confused |
| 20:23.46 | dexter- | sorry! |
| 20:24.01 | JeffM2501 | 13 had the same fonts up untill a couple months ago |
| 20:24.14 | JeffM2501 | we had to change them when we got notice from debian that we'd be removed if we did not |
| 20:25.06 | dexter- | how'd they find out even? |
| 20:25.13 | JeffM2501 | they check licenses |
| 20:25.23 | dexter- | quite thoroughly it seems |
| 20:25.26 | JeffM2501 | the fonts were not licensed properly |
| 20:25.30 | dexter- | well, in the open-source-game world, bz is big |
| 20:25.36 | JeffM2501 | yes this is why we all take copyright very seriously |
| 20:26.56 | dexter- | yaa |
| 20:27.12 | TheRedBaron | dexter-: the Primary reason for the frowning on out-of-date-clients in the league, was due to "league-breaking" changes in the client. |
| 20:27.20 | dexter- | set sansSerifFont TogaSansBold |
| 20:27.20 | dexter- | set serifFont TogaSerifBold |
| 20:27.40 | dexter- | TheRedBaron: well, i was more referring to situations where players were openly called out for using .6 when .8 and later .10 was out |
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| 20:30.08 | dexter- | jef..aww |
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| 20:37.11 | dexter- | JeffM2501: you dont want zw3rgy on forums, do you? |
| 20:37.14 | dexter- | he was masterbanned afaik |
| 20:37.32 | JeffM2501 | is he on the masterban list now? |
| 20:38.13 | dexter- | no idea why he wouldn't be, he's banned in every league and on every popular server |
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| 20:38.31 | dexter- | "mrsupp0rt88" |
| 20:38.38 | JeffM2501 | has he posted anything on the fourms that isn't appropriate? |
| 20:38.39 | dexter- | is an account he's currently using |
| 20:38.53 | dexter- | he'st still cheating |
| 20:39.08 | JeffM2501 | are the local bans working to keep him off? |
| 20:39.49 | dexter- | no idae |
| 20:40.08 | JeffM2501 | do you have problems with him every day? or when you play is it rare that he bugs you? |
| 20:41.49 | dexter- | I wouldn't say every day no. and he's careful not to use the same registered callsign too often either but he's frequently on public servers getting rediculously high scores and acting as if he had every right to be there. as long as he doesn't try to play in leagues though I guess it's irrelevant anyways |
| 20:42.07 | JeffM2501 | it sounds like local bans are taking care of it |
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| 20:42.21 | tobylane | so profont is gone, what alternatives are there for .14 |
| 20:42.33 | JeffM2501 | tobylane, fonts from old versions |
| 20:42.39 | JeffM2501 | we just can't ship em |
| 20:42.47 | tobylane | do i need to do more than change a conf line |
| 20:42.54 | JeffM2501 | or have em on bzbb cus it's a license violation |
| 20:42.55 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 20:42.57 | tobylane | oh well i deleted old bz.. |
| 20:43.09 | JeffM2501 | so... download it again |
| 20:43.24 | tobylane | licence as in not yours to offer or as in cant mix with gpl |
| 20:43.50 | JeffM2501 | both |
| 20:44.00 | JeffM2501 | profont's license does not allow it to be modified |
| 20:44.09 | JeffM2501 | to get a font into 2.0.x it has to be modified |
| 20:44.24 | JeffM2501 | the other fonts, and profont also do not have gpl compatable licenses ( no edit ) |
| 20:44.55 | JeffM2501 | for v3, you'll be able to use the unmodified profont directly in bz, so it'll be easy to get, we just can't ship it |
| 20:45.33 | tobylane | all ttfs? wow.. gu matches in webdings! |
| 20:45.44 | JeffM2501 | if you wanted to |
| 20:46.23 | JeffM2501 | the bigest reason to use ttf is to get unicode support |
| 20:46.56 | tobylane | can i get the fonts off svn or a known link |
| 20:47.20 | JeffM2501 | you'd have to dig thru history |
| 20:47.31 | JeffM2501 | just install .10 again |
| 20:47.40 | tobylane | k, ty |
| 20:48.17 | CIA-88 | BZFlag: 03Bullet Catcher 07http://my.bzflag.org * r6938 10/w/Getting_Started: update direct links to Windows and Mac software |
| 20:48.26 | BulletCatcher | Yay, CIA is back. |
| 20:48.53 | JeffM2501 | indeed |
| 20:49.11 | JeffM2501 | tho acording to it's author "my ipod has more storage then this server" |
| 20:50.14 | tobylane | can i copy all fonts ftom .10 to .14 |
| 20:50.20 | JeffM2501 | sure if you wanted |
| 20:50.27 | tobylane | would they all work |
| 20:50.32 | dexter- | JeffM2501: unicode, that means Umlauts too, right? |
| 20:50.40 | JeffM2501 | tobylane, same format |
| 20:50.41 | JeffM2501 | so sure |
| 20:50.56 | JeffM2501 | we don't change anything about how fonts work, just what fonts we ship |
| 20:51.06 | JeffM2501 | dexter-, that would be part of the characterset yes |
| 20:51.34 | dexter- | ya, but only if i hook up a german keyboard or change layout, since its not a native mac app it won't let me use alt key |
| 20:52.01 | dexter- | but how would I even access the special characters? |
| 20:52.17 | JeffM2501 | that I do not know |
| 20:52.21 | tobylane | change from english mac keyboard setting to german mac keyboard setting |
| 20:52.27 | JeffM2501 | I just know that we can send and display them |
| 20:52.39 | tobylane | alt keys dont work? |
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| 20:53.52 | tobylane | theres no set font, theres a set sansseriffont |
| 20:54.05 | JeffM2501 | yeah because we use 3 fonts |
| 20:54.12 | JeffM2501 | set them to what you want |
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| 20:57.32 | BulletCatcher | brad: I can't reproduce getting "600x800" on the server address line. What OS? |
| 20:57.47 | brad | windows 7 |
| 20:57.55 | brad | im getting it every time with windowed mode |
| 20:58.00 | brad | default config doesn't matter |
| 20:58.18 | blast007 | brad: have you start it windowed with no config |
| 20:58.20 | blast007 | er |
| 20:58.23 | blast007 | BulletCatcher: ^ |
| 20:58.29 | BulletCatcher | Okay. I only have Linux and Mac for testing. |
| 20:58.37 | blast007 | did it for me on XP |
| 20:58.37 | brad | blast, it still does with a config |
| 20:58.42 | blast007 | brad: oh? |
| 20:58.45 | dexter- | every time? |
| 20:58.48 | dexter- | windowed |
| 20:58.49 | brad | yup every time |
| 20:58.53 | blast007 | yuck |
| 20:59.00 | brad | very yuck :) |
| 20:59.00 | dexter- | that's bad |
| 20:59.27 | blast007 | oh blah, the shortcut is bad |
| 20:59.29 | BulletCatcher | Yeah. It's on Linux too. |
| 20:59.56 | blast007 | it's doing it to 2.99.x way where -window takes a geometry value, instead of having -window and then -geometry |
| 21:00.14 | blast007 | pokes JeffM2501 |
| 21:00.17 | blast007 | ;) |
| 21:00.20 | JeffM2501 | ? |
| 21:00.30 | brad | yep, removing that fixed it |
| 21:00.42 | blast007 | guess when we backported the NSIS, we didn't change the shortcuts to be the 2.0.x way |
| 21:00.50 | JeffM2501 | ohhh duh |
| 21:01.25 | JeffM2501 | probably should fix that in tag and update at some point then |
| 21:03.18 | JeffM2501 | I can't do it now I'm in the middle of a hard drive juggle while I'm home sick :( |
| 21:03.27 | BulletCatcher | I don't see this as a bug. According to the 2.0.12 man page -window does not take a parameter. |
| 21:03.41 | JeffM2501 | BulletCatcher, that's the problem |
| 21:03.47 | JeffM2501 | the shortcut is sending in a paramater |
| 21:03.54 | BulletCatcher | Got it. |
| 21:04.01 | JeffM2501 | trunk does -window XXXXxYYY |
| 21:04.14 | JeffM2501 | branch wants -window -geometry XXXXxYYYY |
| 21:04.41 | BulletCatcher | And it is just the Windows shortcut that is mixed up. I see. |
| 21:04.58 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 21:05.05 | JeffM2501 | the installer was backported from trunk |
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| 21:07.01 | blast007 | JeffM2501: probably not worth fixing the source for that? |
| 21:07.11 | blast007 | just push it into SVN and do a new installer? |
| 21:07.12 | JeffM2501 | probably not |
| 21:07.16 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 21:07.44 | tobylane | i like the lack of respect .14 has for .12 settings... |
| 21:07.52 | blast007 | hehe, I could even just repackage the files from your installer ;) |
| 21:08.03 | tobylane | is everything fuzzy unless you're on the top res settings |
| 21:08.13 | blast007 | fuzzy? |
| 21:08.23 | blast007 | sounds like your computer is getting moldy |
| 21:08.24 | tobylane | just imperfect in some way, not entirely sure |
| 21:08.25 | blast007 | time to upgrade |
| 21:08.27 | JeffM2501 | it should read in any setting that didn't change |
| 21:08.42 | JeffM2501 | it uses the same config file |
| 21:09.08 | blast007 | JeffM2501: heh, I could just copy in the files from your installer and build a new one that way ;) |
| 21:09.10 | tobylane | also when i died i got the camera shutter sound, and i think i got it when closing the esc menu which wasn't setting before |
| 21:09.21 | JeffM2501 | blast007, techincaly |
| 21:09.50 | JeffM2501 | that's the flag drop sound, you probably droped a flag |
| 21:10.15 | me1 | I've noticed with the new default console font, the letters "blend in" with the background a lot more than previous font: scoreboard on a blue sky is practicly unreadable, the grey font in the chat is unreadable when on a box, etc. |
| 21:10.29 | JeffM2501 | yep |
| 21:10.34 | tobylane | basically, the font sucks and you want the old one back? |
| 21:10.44 | JeffM2501 | tim did not pick great fonts IMHO |
| 21:11.07 | tobylane | wine and things like that, ndiswrapper, manage to not modify original files, would that idea work for fonts? |
| 21:11.12 | me1 | were there licensing issues with the fonts already used? |
| 21:11.20 | JeffM2501 | find better open source one and I can make them into bzflag fonts if you want |
| 21:11.20 | blast007 | tobylane: what? |
| 21:11.21 | JeffM2501 | me1, yes |
| 21:11.25 | me1 | po |
| 21:11.27 | me1 | poo |
| 21:11.45 | tobylane | could you have made some wrapper around the font files making modification unrequired |
| 21:11.54 | JeffM2501 | tobylane, we did that in v3 |
| 21:11.57 | blast007 | tobylane: um, that's called BZFlag 3.0.0 |
| 21:12.01 | JeffM2501 | v2 uses images |
| 21:12.10 | JeffM2501 | and exported font data |
| 21:12.36 | JeffM2501 | so profont can be used with v3 unmodified |
| 21:12.37 | blast007 | tobylane: if you can get fonttool to build and run, then you can use a different font ;) |
| 21:12.37 | tobylane | whats left to do before 3's release |
| 21:12.40 | JeffM2501 | we just can't ship it |
| 21:12.46 | JeffM2501 | tobylane, make it work |
| 21:13.03 | Runic | lol |
| 21:13.14 | tobylane | last i heard it compiled on linux and windows, and some macs |
| 21:13.21 | blast007 | compiled, sure |
| 21:13.23 | blast007 | working, no |
| 21:13.23 | JeffM2501 | compiling and working are not the same thing ;) |
| 21:13.27 | JeffM2501 | there are lists of things to do |
| 21:13.33 | JeffM2501 | buglist, release checklist etc.. |
| 21:14.10 | JeffM2501 | and then a fair amount of playtesting |
| 21:14.19 | blast007 | tobylane: just think back to Windows Me - sure, it compiled ... but.. ;) |
| 21:14.44 | JeffM2501 | if you don't like .14, use .10 there are no major differences |
| 21:15.09 | tobylane | i added the old font, its the same now |
| 21:15.15 | JeffM2501 | then there ya go |
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| 21:26.40 | JeffM2501 | I added a note about fonts to the fourm post |
| 21:26.55 | JeffM2501 | if you copy them before you run the first time it should just pick up the old settings. |
| 21:28.54 | blast007 | JeffM2501: did you use the vc redist from the URL in the NSIS file? |
| 21:29.11 | JeffM2501 | I think so |
| 21:29.13 | JeffM2501 | maybe |
| 21:29.15 | blast007 | trying to figure out why my installer is .3 MB larger |
| 21:29.29 | JeffM2501 | I used the one that I had used in the trunk test installer I made a while ago |
| 21:30.56 | JeffM2501 | heh, this little nas has php and mysql on it, guess I don't need to run wamp anymore :) |
| 21:31.27 | blast007 | hmm, yeah, guess it isn't the same one - just ran the your installer again and snagged the file ;) |
| 21:31.49 | JeffM2501 | maybe different compressor, I picked "best" |
| 21:32.01 | JeffM2501 | and it like did them all |
| 21:32.29 | blast007 | no, the VC redist is different |
| 21:32.34 | JeffM2501 | oh |
| 21:32.39 | JeffM2501 | well it works :) |
| 21:32.53 | blast007 | just wondering if yours was without that ATL update or whatnot |
| 21:32.54 | JeffM2501 | so stupid that they are all named the same |
| 21:33.01 | blast007 | yeah :) |
| 21:35.02 | CIA-88 | BZFlag: 03Bullet Catcher 07http://my.bzflag.org * r6939 10/w/Getting_Started: /* Registering a callsign(Optional) */ remove SID from registration link, clean up wording |
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| 21:41.01 | blast007 | JeffM2501: should I commit the NSIS tweak straight to the tag? |
| 21:41.08 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 21:41.13 | blast007 | tortoiseSVN is like "omgz, are you sure??" ;) |
| 21:41.13 | blast007 | k |
| 21:41.17 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 21:41.20 | JeffM2501 | it does that |
| 21:41.24 | JeffM2501 | it's a good thing too |
| 21:41.33 | blast007 | yeah |
| 21:41.39 | blast007 | and I have a new installer |
| 21:41.39 | CIA-88 | BZFlag: 03blast007 * r20850 10/tags/v2_0_14/package/win32/nsis/BZFlag.nsi: 2.0.x still needs the -geometry option. |
| 21:41.44 | JeffM2501 | it should be "haha.. someone mesed up!!!!" |
| 21:41.59 | blast007 | just rebuilt it using your files and the newer VC redist |
| 21:42.13 | blast007 | compared it in WinMerge and the only diff was the uninstaller ;) |
| 21:46.28 | blast007 | if someone wants to verify this works right, I'll push it to SF when I get to work: http://static.bzexcess.com/downloads/bzflag-2.0.14.exe |
| 21:46.58 | tobylane | is this major, as in .15 is coming |
| 21:47.07 | Dontkillme | Hm, the new installer looks nice... |
| 21:47.55 | JeffM2501 | tobylane, branch svn IS 15 |
| 21:48.07 | JeffM2501 | odd versions are dev for even releases |
| 21:48.36 | JeffM2501 | and no, a simple instler flub on a shortcut is NOT enough to push out a full release update |
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| 21:58.11 | CIA-88 | BZFlag: 03Bullet Catcher 07http://my.bzflag.org * r6940 10/w/Download: 2.0.14 is now the current version for all platforms |
| 22:02.14 | JeffM2501 | except debian and ubuntu ;) |
| 22:03.15 | blast007 | BulletCatcher: we could almost just get rid of that page |
| 22:03.24 | blast007 | I made the homepage link to SF's files page now |
| 22:04.15 | BulletCatcher | The Download page has some nice history on it. |
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| 22:07.50 | CIA-88 | BZFlag: 03Bullet Catcher 07http://my.bzflag.org * r6941 10/w/Main_Page: /* Google Summer of Code */ change to past tense now that it is over |
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| 23:46.44 | JeffM2501 | prays for nas formatitiude |
| 23:50.00 | blast007 | the windows installer is updated now |
| 23:50.36 | JeffM2501 | cooleo |
| 23:53.21 | dexter- | well |
| 23:53.28 | dexter- | i'm officially happy with 2.0.14 |
| 23:53.39 | JeffM2501 | I'll alert the media |
| 23:53.55 | dexter- | please do |
| 23:54.04 | dexter- | that's actually something i heard like 10 times today, jeff |
| 23:54.13 | dexter- | is working for the democratic party atm |
| 23:54.38 | JeffM2501 | ahh too bad.. bzflag is a dictorship |
| 23:54.57 | JeffM2501 | meant that he'd actualy call the secret guard |
| 23:55.02 | JeffM2501 | we call them "the media" |
| 23:55.14 | dexter- | oh |
| 23:55.18 | dexter- | BZStasi |
| 23:55.19 | dexter- | ftw |
