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| 19:19.39 | tobylane | hi, i keep getting cant find list server |
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| 19:20.25 | tobylane | do i have to set the url by command line or something? |
| 19:20.54 | blast007 | "Cannot communicate with list server" <-- that one? |
| 19:21.35 | tobylane | yes |
| 19:21.38 | tobylane | even when i can id |
| 19:22.10 | blast007 | when do you get that? |
| 19:22.21 | tobylane | when i try to list servers |
| 19:25.23 | tobylane | fixed |
| 19:25.56 | tobylane | so afaik you're taking out group.db powers, so there isn't an offline way to make someone admin? |
| 19:28.11 | JefferyM | you can do local groups |
| 19:28.25 | JefferyM | and a local user ref |
| 19:28.49 | tobylane | and the gm being able to kill just because the shooter hasn't sent a gm end message seems way too flimsy, the victim could easily know or the server like other shots |
| 19:29.15 | tobylane | oh ok, i thought there was some part of the decentralisation being removed |
| 19:29.32 | blast007 | local auth was removed in 2.99.x |
| 19:29.37 | blast007 | local groups were not afaik |
| 19:30.22 | blast007 | there is also the admin password that you can set |
| 19:30.40 | blast007 | or, you could write a plugin ;) |
| 19:31.17 | tobylane | yeah.. but this was originally a lan game |
| 19:31.41 | tobylane | why remove functionality from the priginal and common, but by defintion quiet, use of the game |
| 19:31.51 | blast007 | priginal? |
| 19:31.54 | blast007 | original? |
| 19:32.02 | tobylane | yes, it was a lan game? |
| 19:32.19 | blast007 | sure, it was a LAN game, and in a lot of ways is still a LAN game ;) |
| 19:32.30 | blast007 | I don't understand your question |
| 19:32.59 | tobylane | it seems like you're depending on the central server for more things in 3 |
| 19:33.18 | blast007 | how many servers do you think actually use local auth? |
| 19:33.35 | blast007 | the ones that do get hit with Sk3 and his bots |
| 19:33.52 | blast007 | local auth was also insecure because you were giving your raw password to the server owner's logs |
| 19:34.06 | tobylane | which is fine in lan |
| 19:34.19 | tobylane | its still reduced functionality |
| 19:34.20 | blast007 | in a LAN, why do you need user registration? |
| 19:34.26 | blast007 | just set an admin password and be done with it |
| 19:35.07 | tobylane | it seems more effect to make it more dependant on a resource already overstretched |
| 19:35.18 | blast007 | nah |
| 19:35.21 | tobylane | how can lan games get attacked by an outsider |
| 19:35.37 | blast007 | true LAN games wouldn't talk to the list, so your point is invalid |
| 19:36.12 | blast007 | any servers that currently *are* public are already using the centeral server even if they allow local auth too |
| 19:36.23 | tobylane | so lan games can do as much in 3 as 2, or do they have less levels of control |
| 19:36.38 | blast007 | again, why do you need levels of control in a LAN? |
| 19:36.43 | blast007 | you won't have cheaters |
| 19:36.49 | blast007 | and if you do, you can go punch them |
| 19:36.59 | tobylane | a minute ago you thought a hackers bots would be on a lan game |
| 19:37.02 | JefferyM | local auth was removed, but you ccan still have local refs to global users and give them a local group |
| 19:37.09 | blast007 | tobylane: no, you are mistaken |
| 19:37.16 | blast007 | I was talking about public servers that also had local auth enabled |
| 19:37.30 | blast007 | I said nothing about LAN servers getting "hacked" |
| 19:37.38 | tobylane | so its just local auth? |
| 19:37.52 | JefferyM | yeah /password |
| 19:38.02 | JefferyM | and that wasn't an origonal feature |
| 19:38.03 | blast007 | tobylane: what is this "its" you are referring to? |
| 19:38.11 | tobylane | being removed in 3 |
| 19:38.12 | JefferyM | I added it to try and help a server owner out |
| 19:38.17 | JefferyM | back in 2 |
| 19:38.22 | JefferyM | it wasn't well planned out |
| 19:38.22 | blast007 | yes, -passdb was removed |
| 19:38.34 | JefferyM | but userdb and groupdb are still there |
| 19:38.55 | JefferyM | so you can do fully local perms on a globaly authenticated user |
| 19:39.14 | tobylane | so what lan only solutions are there |
| 19:39.31 | JefferyM | lan games are a very small part of our design going forward |
| 19:39.33 | blast007 | tobylane: what is the actual problem? |
| 19:39.42 | JefferyM | he dosn't want to do global auth |
| 19:39.50 | JefferyM | or he can't |
| 19:40.02 | JefferyM | we did desuport auth for those people |
| 19:40.09 | blast007 | I know, but why would he need different levels of permissions for a LAN game? :P |
| 19:40.18 | JefferyM | most people can do a public but non advertiesed game |
| 19:40.26 | JefferyM | blast007, because he may have a big lan |
| 19:40.29 | tobylane | it doesn't sound like thats the only thing lost blast |
| 19:40.31 | JefferyM | but yes it is a small group |
| 19:40.53 | blast007 | it'd be trivial to set up a stand-alone list server |
| 19:41.09 | tobylane | you're saying one function is lost, another depends on the central server and a third is useable by lan without internet |
| 19:41.11 | blast007 | bzfls2 could be a good base since I think it already abstracts the data |
| 19:41.30 | blast007 | tobylane: nothing says you can't run your own list server |
| 19:41.48 | tobylane | the list doesnt matter, this is all auth |
| 19:41.50 | blast007 | it's open-source, after all |
| 19:41.58 | blast007 | right, auth is DONE through the list |
| 19:42.05 | JefferyM | tobylane, yes that one use case is removed |
| 19:42.07 | tobylane | does bonjour come into this at all or is that on a different level |
| 19:42.11 | JefferyM | we felt it was minor |
| 19:42.21 | blast007 | bonjour? that apple zero-conf thingy? |
| 19:42.24 | tobylane | yes |
| 19:42.27 | blast007 | no |
| 19:42.27 | JefferyM | I made that call |
| 19:42.36 | blast007 | it is minor :) |
| 19:42.45 | blast007 | he could write a plugin if you wanted that functionality |
| 19:42.50 | blast007 | wouldn't be hard |
| 19:43.06 | blast007 | a plugin can add/remove permissions |
| 19:43.19 | blast007 | and add new / commands |
| 19:43.25 | tobylane | <JefferyM> so you can do fully local perms on a globaly authenticated user < thats what i mean, that makes local perms unusable on lans |
| 19:43.26 | JefferyM | yes that was one reason I made the call that if there was a need there is a way to do it, even if it is a lot harder |
| 19:43.49 | JefferyM | yes |
| 19:43.54 | blast007 | wouldn't be that hard anyway ;) |
| 19:44.06 | JefferyM | if yoy can not do global auth you can not use that system |
| 19:44.09 | tobylane | so is it userdb that depends on global auth and groupdb on the forum groups? |
| 19:44.22 | JefferyM | group db does not depend on fourm groups |
| 19:44.26 | JefferyM | it can define it's own groups |
| 19:44.32 | JefferyM | but user db does need global |
| 19:44.36 | blast007 | userdb is just a user account to group memebership map |
| 19:44.40 | tobylane | so it can have multiple levels of auth without central server? |
| 19:44.43 | tobylane | groupdb |
| 19:44.50 | blast007 | tobylane: if you write a plugin, sure ;) |
| 19:45.02 | blast007 | userdb only works for authenticated users |
| 19:45.07 | JefferyM | tobylane, auth no, perms yes |
| 19:45.11 | tobylane | without that or discovery like bonjour, it's a bit of a difficult lan game |
| 19:45.13 | JefferyM | with out a plugtin |
| 19:45.25 | blast007 | what does bonjour have to do with this? |
| 19:45.28 | JefferyM | as I have said, lan games are a minor thing now in our design |
| 19:45.37 | JefferyM | and yes we are REMOVING functionality from them |
| 19:45.38 | blast007 | servers on port 5154 are already autodiscovered |
| 19:45.45 | blast007 | on a LAN |
| 19:45.52 | tobylane | oh? not in the one time i tried |
| 19:45.56 | JefferyM | just like we are increasing OS and system reuirements |
| 19:46.21 | JefferyM | as we move forward we will leave some people "out in the cold" for various reasons |
| 19:46.29 | tobylane | all thats rare for an open source game, especially one based on arcade games or lan games |
| 19:46.54 | JefferyM | the game use has changed as we move forward |
| 19:47.03 | JefferyM | more internet games happen then lan games now |
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| 19:47.14 | JefferyM | so we are trying to make it better for internet pople |
| 19:47.16 | tobylane | but if one use of a method is only insecure offline, why take it out |
| 19:47.34 | JefferyM | it was insecure when used online |
| 19:47.41 | JefferyM | and we didn't feel that many lan players used auth at all |
| 19:47.53 | JefferyM | usualy you don't need to give specific people perms on a small lan |
| 19:48.01 | JefferyM | and a owner password sufices |
| 19:48.19 | JefferyM | general lans don't need the tiered perm structure that internet servers do |
| 19:48.33 | JefferyM | I would be interested in knowing how you use auth on your lan |
| 19:48.49 | JefferyM | but I have to go to lunch now |
| 19:48.52 | tobylane | i dont, its just original function, or close to it |
| 19:48.55 | JefferyM | I can talk about it in an hour when I get back |
| 19:49.08 | JefferyM | tobylane, it wasn't origonal, as I said, I added it in 2 |
| 19:49.18 | JefferyM | it was not in 1.7.x or 1.10 |
| 19:49.19 | tobylane | k, bye |
| 19:49.29 | JefferyM | and we found it had lots of holes in it for global games |
| 19:49.39 | JefferyM | so we pulled it because we had no clean easy way to make it secure |
| 19:49.44 | JefferyM | and felt it was not used much |
| 19:50.04 | JefferyM | most internet servers have turned it off |
| 19:50.09 | JefferyM | even in 2.0.x |
| 19:50.21 | JefferyM | and I haven't heard of a lan server ever using it |
| 19:50.32 | JefferyM | those were the reasons behind my choice to remove it |
| 19:50.42 | JefferyM | bbl |
| 19:51.20 | tobylane | so many bzfls3 (bz3 list server?) could include ldap? bbl |
| 19:51.23 | tobylane | *so maybe |
| 19:51.47 | blast007 | tobylane: I just ran a plain 'bzfs' on one computere here at work, and then started the client on another, and the server showed up on the list |
| 19:53.28 | blast007 | tobylane: why would it need to be the 3rd revision? |
| 19:53.36 | blast007 | bzfls2 already abstracts the access to the data |
| 19:54.08 | blast007 | it's not a complete rewrite yet though - some stuff is still missing |
| 19:55.47 | blast007 | also, bzfls2 isn't necessarily what we'll end up using anyway |
| 19:55.57 | blast007 | that was just my attempt to make the list server suck less ;) |
| 19:58.37 | blast007 | tobylane: there's also a list server that already talks to LDAP ;) |
| 19:59.00 | blast007 | http://bzflag.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/bzflag/branches/gsoc_bzauthd_db/ <-- look at userstore.php and bzfls.php, specifically |
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| 20:42.51 | tobylane | cool, bye |
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| 20:48.43 | JefferyM | so..... what was his actual problem? |
| 20:49.34 | Erroneous | who said he had a problem? |
| 20:49.39 | Erroneous | maybe he just wanted to chat |
| 20:49.46 | JefferyM | well I didn't know if he had one or not |
| 20:50.06 | JefferyM | if not that's good |
| 20:50.17 | JefferyM | if so I wanted to make sure I understood what it was :) |
| 20:50.59 | JefferyM | so anything else need to go into .14? or can we go and start stamping it for this weekend. |
| 20:51.45 | BulletCatcher | The only outstanding commit I am aware of is to update the copyright dates. |
| 20:52.46 | BulletCatcher | If no one else does it first I will do it late Saturday or on Sunday. |
| 20:55.34 | JefferyM | there is a script to do that |
| 20:55.49 | JefferyM | did we do it for trunk? |
| 20:56.12 | BulletCatcher | Trunk has not yet been done, either. |
| 20:56.23 | JefferyM | odd that the brlcad hasn't done it yet |
| 20:56.34 | BulletCatcher | He has been busy. |
| 20:57.03 | JefferyM | TimRiker would have done it by now too :) |
| 21:03.20 | BulletCatcher | I have the BRL servers running the current branch code. No surprises so far. |
| 21:03.23 | BulletCatcher | The only problem I have seen with the branch client is the awful font antialiasing. |
| 21:03.52 | JefferyM | yeah the new fonts ain't great |
| 21:04.13 | JefferyM | I could do some higher res dumps of them so they don't look that bad when scaled up |
| 21:07.36 | brlcad | heh |
| 21:07.59 | brlcad | I shared the love last year |
| 21:09.33 | BulletCatcher | The original process that produced the nice 2.0.x fonts needs Windows 98, if I recall correctly. |
| 21:09.35 | BulletCatcher | Would it be worthwhile for me to try to resurrect the Win98 box I have in the garage? |
| 21:10.00 | JefferyM | not 98 |
| 21:10.06 | JefferyM | it needed cleartype |
| 21:10.14 | JefferyM | or something |
| 21:10.23 | JefferyM | I did them on XP cus vista/7 was less the cool |
| 21:10.58 | JefferyM | or do we want them not aliased and let scaling do the trick |
| 21:18.57 | BulletCatcher | The older fonts look fine. If we can make the new ones look as smooth that would be really nice. |
| 21:19.19 | JefferyM | I'll see what I can do |
| 21:19.34 | JefferyM | the older font goemetries were better IMHO |
| 21:20.02 | BulletCatcher | Yes, but that is less important than smooth edges. |
| 21:21.38 | JefferyM | I can also tweak them in photoshop |
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| 21:41.07 | JefferyM | well at least text tool still builds |
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| 22:19.42 | CIA-87 | BZFlag: 03Kanjiro 07http://my.bzflag.org * r6922 10/w/Genocide: cleaning up the page, i still think it needs some work though. |
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| 23:41.36 | JefferyM | so copyright to 2010 and font aliasing, anything else for 14? |
| 23:41.57 | blast007 | cow launcher! |
| 23:42.15 | JefferyM | heh |
| 23:42.48 | brlcad | haha |
| 23:43.05 | JefferyM | do have a test of an OSX build? |
| 23:43.11 | JefferyM | we have I mean |
| 23:43.17 | JefferyM | is getting used to a new keyboard |
| 23:43.42 | JefferyM | any readme updates? |
| 23:44.33 | brlcad | I have a clean build, hadn't started forming the new dmg yet |
| 23:44.51 | brlcad | plus still need to verify forward portability |
| 23:45.00 | JefferyM | but it runs and is cool for 10.4 + on intel? |
| 23:45.27 | JefferyM | I assume there is litle to no reason to do a PPC build in this day in age |
| 23:46.03 | blast007 | JefferyM: well, I'll look at the win32 readme here in a bit |
| 23:46.05 | blast007 | the HTML one |
| 23:46.14 | blast007 | since I think it still mentions stuff about 9x |
| 23:46.24 | JefferyM | probalby should take a skim thru the man pages too |
| 23:47.47 | CIA-87 | BZFlag: 0375.16.90.222 07http://my.bzflag.org * r6923 10/w/BZFlag_2.0.14: add release checklist |
| 23:58.00 | CIA-87 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 07http://my.bzflag.org * r6924 10/w/BZFlag_2.0.14: sign it while actualy loged in :) |