| 00:16.53 | Supertanker | Out of vaugest curiosity, how big is BZFlag's data/ directory in the svn trunk? |
| 00:17.12 | Supertanker | I'm wondering if I'm nearly done fetching the checkout or if I should go do something else for an hour or two. |
| 00:17.20 | blast007 | 32MB |
| 00:17.26 | blast007 | 43MB* |
| 00:17.47 | Supertanker | Oh, thanks |
| 00:17.47 | Supertanker | I'm at 30MB. |
| 00:17.54 | Supertanker | I'll go do something for an hour |
| 00:19.08 | blast007 | heh, our fonts take up more space then the rest of our data |
| 00:19.35 | Supertanker | 'slong as I don't have to do this every week or something. |
| 00:19.57 | blast007 | that's what 'svn up' is for |
| 00:20.14 | Supertanker | That's what I'm doing right now. :P |
| 00:20.29 | Supertanker | L last updated in ~2009 of January, so.... |
| 00:20.31 | Supertanker | January of 20098* |
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| 00:20.36 | Supertanker | 2009* |
| 00:20.41 | Supertanker | Oh, forget it, I can't type with this SSH lag |
| 00:20.45 | Supertanker | Be back in an hour or so. :P |
| 00:20.47 | Supertanker | Thanks again. |
| 00:20.48 | blast007 | heh |
| 00:20.53 | JeffM | still should not take THAT long |
| 00:20.58 | JeffM | that has to be one slow connection |
| 00:21.44 | Supertanker | JeffM, some things never change, eh? |
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| 00:21.51 | Supertanker | *I *still* haven't learned C. |
| 00:21.58 | JeffM | how are you connected to the net? |
| 00:22.01 | Supertanker | Didn't I tell you that I was going to go learn it about four years ago? |
| 00:22.05 | blast007 | dialup, I think |
| 00:22.15 | JeffM | ugg, why even bother |
| 00:22.15 | Supertanker | Amisdt other n00by messages. |
| 00:22.17 | Supertanker | Dialup. |
| 00:22.18 | Supertanker | But better: |
| 00:22.21 | Supertanker | Dialup over ICS. |
| 00:22.24 | JeffM | just write your own, it'll be faster |
| 00:22.32 | blast007 | lol |
| 00:23.39 | Supertanker | Sadly true. |
| 00:23.54 | JeffM | there isn't anything faster where you are? |
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| 00:25.24 | Supertanker | Not unless you count satellite. |
| 00:25.30 | Supertanker | 200mb a day for $60+ a month? Hell no. |
| 00:25.42 | Supertanker | I almost go through 100MB/day as it is right now. |
| 00:25.50 | JeffM | on a dialup? how? |
| 00:25.51 | blast007 | and 4 second latency |
| 00:26.17 | Supertanker | JeffM, downloading almost constantly. |
| 00:26.32 | JeffM | I thoght DSL was intened to get broadband to remote areas |
| 00:26.34 | Supertanker | That's a 24 hour day, not a 12 hour day. |
| 00:26.36 | JeffM | since it can just go the RT |
| 00:26.52 | Supertanker | Not where the phone lines are more valuable as scrap copper than as phone lines. |
| 00:27.05 | JeffM | so you live in the thunderdome? |
| 00:27.15 | Supertanker | :P |
| 00:27.21 | Supertanker | No, the foothills of California. |
| 00:27.31 | JeffM | specificaly where? |
| 00:27.44 | JeffM | cus CA is kinda large and has more then one set of foothills :) |
| 00:28.07 | Supertanker | Almost directly due East of Sacramento. |
| 00:28.11 | Supertanker | Way off the beaten path |
| 00:28.22 | Supertanker | I'm moving in April, however. |
| 00:28.25 | Supertanker | I'll have better connections in town. |
| 00:28.30 | Supertanker | If only from wireless leaching--uh, I mean, connection sharing. |
| 00:28.30 | JeffM | cool |
| 00:28.41 | temporalD | will your download be done by then? |
| 00:28.45 | blast007 | lol |
| 00:28.46 | JeffM | god bless "linksys" |
| 00:28.52 | Supertanker | I also have high-speed access at the campus computer lab where I live |
| 00:28.55 | Supertanker | Hahaha, yeah. |
| 00:28.56 | blast007 | ~temporalD++ |
| 00:29.12 | Supertanker | s/live/work/ |
| 00:29.28 | temporalD | easy mistake to make |
| 00:29.53 | temporalD | got 10ft of Cat5? run a wire... |
| 00:30.28 | Supertanker | Hahaha |
| 00:30.34 | Supertanker | No, I mean I can take my laptop there and do most of my downloads there. |
| 00:30.42 | Supertanker | But, sadly, there's no school--or work--until the 18th or so. |
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| 00:36.58 | a_meteorite | SportChick: yeah I'm here |
| 00:37.46 | a_meteorite | SportChick: sup? |
| 00:39.24 | blast007 | and now to start rewriting weblogin ;) |
| 00:40.05 | a_meteorite | blast007: please allow custom css with semantic hooks |
| 00:40.09 | a_meteorite | kthx |
| 00:40.24 | blast007 | actually I'm just going to randomly number items |
| 00:40.29 | a_meteorite | ... |
| 00:40.32 | blast007 | <div id="thing334342"> |
| 00:40.44 | a_meteorite | you are a mean mean dveloper! |
| 00:40.49 | blast007 | ;D |
| 00:41.04 | blast007 | just a sarcastic one |
| 00:41.15 | a_meteorite | no really? ;) |
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| 00:42.10 | Digital-Pioneer | Is there a website that has BZF nightly builds or something like that? |
| 00:42.36 | Digital-Pioneer | Google is coming up dry for one. |
| 00:43.36 | a_meteorite | nope |
| 00:43.38 | a_meteorite | you gotta compile from svn. |
| 00:44.09 | Supertanker | And give us $20 |
| 00:44.11 | a_meteorite | though we (separate organization from bz) have been thinking about providing nightly builds along with our branch, we have not implemented it |
| 00:44.12 | Supertanker | I mean, uh, what a_meteorite said |
| 00:44.22 | a_meteorite | $20 would be helpful for the project |
| 00:44.33 | Supertanker | Oh, yes |
| 00:44.33 | Supertanker | Very helpful |
| 00:44.42 | Supertanker | (Actually, seriously, yes it would be) |
| 00:44.47 | temporalD | there is no significant difference between the released version and the 2.0_branch in SVN (for the game client) |
| 00:45.21 | blast007 | Digital-Pioneer: are you talking about trunk code? |
| 00:47.19 | Digital-Pioneer | blast007: Yeah |
| 00:47.29 | trepan | http://buildbot.net/trac -- never was done for bz |
| 00:47.42 | trepan | (that i know of) |
| 00:48.21 | Digital-Pioneer | IC. Well does anyone know of a windows binary that's available using the latest protocol? |
| 00:48.37 | a_meteorite | I think the last windows build is quite old |
| 00:49.02 | a_meteorite | and, iirc, it's not exactly on a public site... just in some dir with an apache dir listing |
| 00:49.08 | blast007 | Digital-Pioneer: can't you build one? |
| 00:49.19 | Digital-Pioneer | blast007: I use Linux. :) |
| 00:49.21 | temporalD | DP, there was a very recent protocol bump - none of the posted clients will work with the current servers |
| 00:49.29 | blast007 | then why do you need it for windows? |
| 00:49.35 | Digital-Pioneer | I know, I compile my own clients. |
| 00:49.47 | Digital-Pioneer | But no-one else is on the servers using the new protocol. |
| 00:49.50 | Digital-Pioneer | What fun is that??' |
| 00:49.57 | a_meteorite | er, then you'd want a linux binary |
| 00:50.05 | Digital-Pioneer | I have a linux binary. :) |
| 00:50.11 | Digital-Pioneer | My friend here needs a windows binaryl |
| 00:50.12 | trepan | Digital-Pioneer: tried cross-compiling? |
| 00:50.25 | Digital-Pioneer | trepan: No... Not entirely certain how to do that. |
| 00:50.26 | a_meteorite | it's still in development. no one wants to play on dev builds. |
| 00:50.41 | a_meteorite | except developers. |
| 00:50.49 | trepan | a_meteorite: you assume too much ;) |
| 00:50.53 | a_meteorite | I do |
| 00:50.55 | Digital-Pioneer | a_meteorite: It's quite usable, actually. |
| 00:51.04 | Digital-Pioneer | And the new graphics are nice. :) |
| 00:51.10 | a_meteorite | last build I did it was very broken |
| 00:51.20 | a_meteorite | I keep up with development usually ;) |
| 00:51.26 | Digital-Pioneer | Spazzy's map was incredible, though you couldn't cap on it. |
| 00:51.34 | a_meteorite | heh |
| 00:52.35 | Digital-Pioneer | So I went to build a new version of the client, and now I'm back to the empty servers. :( |
| 00:53.27 | temporalD | the trunk servers will always be empty unless you rally a game |
| 00:53.32 | a_meteorite | recent proto bump |
| 00:53.48 | a_meteorite | mhmm |
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| 00:54.15 | temporalD | nice tourney dexter- |
| 00:54.21 | dexter- | eesh, yeah |
| 00:54.26 | dexter- | got destroyed |
| 00:54.27 | dexter- | lol |
| 00:54.28 | dexter- | was fun! |
| 00:54.31 | temporalD | heh |
| 00:54.45 | temporalD | at least Duc HAD a winner - unlike GU... |
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| 00:55.09 | dexter- | heh |
| 00:55.14 | dexter- | woulda prefered a tie :) |
| 00:55.27 | temporalD | heh - guess so ... :) |
| 00:55.36 | Digital-Pioneer | temporalD: Well what do you think I'm doing?? :P |
| 00:56.03 | temporalD | I actually didn't see you say "come play with me!" or whatever :) |
| 00:56.10 | Digital-Pioneer | temporalD: I'm trying to come up with windows binaries for my friends of a lesser operating system. ;) |
| 00:56.17 | temporalD | gotcha |
| 00:56.58 | a_meteorite | yo dexter- |
| 00:57.20 | Digital-Pioneer | temporalD: Do you have a client compatible with the trunk servers? |
| 00:57.29 | dexter- | woa.. hi met |
| 00:57.34 | dexter- | forgot you existed |
| 00:57.50 | temporalD | Digital-Pioneer: I haven't rebuilt since the proto bump |
| 00:58.00 | a_meteorite | I exist |
| 00:58.05 | dexter- | how goes it? |
| 00:58.10 | temporalD | been waiting until the mofo bzfs is updated... |
| 00:58.12 | Digital-Pioneer | temporalD: Too bad. :P |
| 01:00.15 | JeffM | Supertanker: 20$ won't realy help us |
| 01:00.53 | a_meteorite | dexter-: fine, still tanking on |
| 01:00.55 | JeffM | Digital-Pioneer: I'll see if I can build a bin for you |
| 01:01.01 | a_meteorite | haven't seen you in #bzfx for a long time |
| 01:01.10 | JeffM | or he could do that |
| 01:05.53 | JeffM | bahhh, it would help if I actualy built release |
| 01:07.13 | dexter- | JeffM: I'm thinking about setting up a GU tourney, would it be possible to get some prizes from the bz shop? |
| 01:07.27 | JeffM | you can buy the |
| 01:07.29 | JeffM | them |
| 01:07.38 | JeffM | and I can cut you a deal on shipping them.' |
| 01:07.43 | dexter- | ight |
| 01:07.46 | JeffM | like ship them all to you |
| 01:08.01 | dexter- | instead of? |
| 01:08.12 | JeffM | but we arn't realy in a position to give out freebies for a third party league |
| 01:08.15 | temporalD | not shipping them... |
| 01:08.26 | dexter- | how would I get them then.. |
| 01:08.28 | dexter- | lol |
| 01:08.29 | JeffM | or shiping them individualy to the winers |
| 01:08.34 | blast007 | dexter-: email |
| 01:08.35 | dexter- | JeffM: oh i wasn't talking about free items |
| 01:08.38 | dexter- | good joke! |
| 01:08.41 | blast007 | you have a 3D printer, right? |
| 01:08.42 | JeffM | you can buy whatever you want |
| 01:08.43 | blast007 | ;) |
| 01:08.48 | dexter- | JeffM: just maybee, a deal |
| 01:08.49 | JeffM | tho we don't have much left |
| 01:09.12 | JeffM | if you want to make a batch order I'll combine shipping, that's fine |
| 01:09.19 | JeffM | just whatever it costs me |
| 01:09.36 | JeffM | tho we can't realy sell anything much right now |
| 01:09.44 | JeffM | not till brlcad gets our paypal verified |
| 01:09.55 | JeffM | I've got like 20$ left to spend |
| 01:10.08 | dexter- | how does that verification work anyways |
| 01:10.14 | JeffM | bank account |
| 01:10.17 | dexter- | i've used mine for years without problems |
| 01:10.20 | JeffM | he's setting up a bzflag account |
| 01:10.21 | dexter- | without verfying it |
| 01:10.33 | JeffM | have you spent close to 2000$? ;) |
| 01:10.39 | JeffM | there is a spending limit |
| 01:10.46 | dexter- | ugh |
| 01:10.48 | dexter- | how aggrivating |
| 01:10.56 | JeffM | well we are abbusing the system a bit |
| 01:11.06 | dexter- | ok, lets just assume i will never need to spend that much on iTunes. |
| 01:11.08 | JeffM | it's to prevent money laundring and tax fraud |
| 01:11.20 | JeffM | it may also be different for a personal account |
| 01:11.35 | dexter- | ah |
| 01:11.36 | JeffM | bzflag has the next one up so we can get payments from credit cards |
| 01:11.38 | dexter- | yeah, i was thinking |
| 01:11.44 | dexter- | business != personal |
| 01:12.00 | dexter- | does it cost some kind of fee? |
| 01:13.11 | JeffM | 3% |
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| 01:23.04 | CIA-75 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r20725 10/trunk/bzflag/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 01:23.04 | CIA-75 | BZFlag: use glew statically with bzfs. |
| 01:23.04 | CIA-75 | BZFlag: remove bzrobots from windows fullbuild |
| 01:23.17 | JeffM | bahh that should have been bzflag not bzfs |
| 01:23.20 | Supertanker | 38MB |
| 01:23.21 | Supertanker | Wow, whee. |
| 01:25.53 | JeffM | blast007: where does the installer want the vcredist file to be located? |
| 01:26.19 | blast007 | probably in the same location as the nsi file |
| 01:26.23 | JeffM | k |
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| 01:27.09 | blast007 | which reminds me I still need to fix the installer for Vista and Windows 7 |
| 01:27.21 | JeffM | it dosn't work? |
| 01:27.22 | blast007 | (when you uninstall, it doesn't remove the shortcuts) |
| 01:27.27 | JeffM | ahh |
| 01:27.50 | blast007 | cuz vista/7 moves them to a different location when an installer doesn't flag itself as needing admin rights |
| 01:28.20 | CIA-75 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r20726 10/trunk/bzflag/package/win32/nsis/notes.txt: notes on where to put the vc runtimes |
| 01:28.29 | JeffM | 17 megs, not too bad |
| 01:29.09 | blast007 | not bad at all, considering there's 43MB of data |
| 01:29.17 | JeffM | and runtimes |
| 01:30.16 | blast007 | the fonts are huge |
| 01:30.33 | JeffM | it's the asian ones |
| 01:30.34 | blast007 | (relative to everything else) |
| 01:30.37 | JeffM | pgc and tgo |
| 01:30.41 | blast007 | yeah, that's about half of it |
| 01:30.42 | blast007 | 10MB there |
| 01:30.47 | blast007 | then there's 13MB more ;) |
| 01:31.01 | JeffM | 2 fo the fonts alone are nearly 10 megs |
| 01:31.14 | JeffM | ume-pgc5.ttf and ume-tgo5.ttf |
| 01:31.18 | blast007 | yeah |
| 01:31.25 | blast007 | the ones for the japanese translation |
| 01:31.26 | JeffM | oh well |
| 01:31.41 | JeffM | it's not like we are talking multiple dvds |
| 01:31.47 | blast007 | yeah |
| 01:32.05 | blast007 | the only ones that have a big download will be the mac users ;) |
| 01:32.12 | JeffM | yep |
| 01:32.23 | Supertanker | *coughs* |
| 01:32.23 | temporalD | we are rich - can afford it |
| 01:32.29 | blast007 | hehe |
| 01:32.42 | blast007 | Supertanker: 17MB isn't big |
| 01:32.43 | JeffM | and the time to deal with the crashes it seems |
| 01:32.46 | Supertanker | Im so far off the radar I don't count though |
| 01:32.56 | a_meteorite | we pay per megabyte since we like throwing away money |
| 01:32.57 | blast007 | even for dialup, 17MB isn't insane |
| 01:33.07 | JeffM | I would not worry about bzflag untill it gets in to the hundreds of megs |
| 01:33.11 | JeffM | then I'd make a content patcher |
| 01:33.18 | JeffM | http://www.awesomelaser.com/bzflag-2.99.46.20090725.exe |
| 01:33.21 | JeffM | for anyone that wants it |
| 01:33.32 | a_meteorite | that'd be pretty cool for upgrades |
| 01:33.45 | JeffM | it's a common thing for modern games |
| 01:34.04 | JeffM | it's not to hard to do on windows and mac, it's harder on linux |
| 01:34.06 | dexter- | is there a macintosh build? |
| 01:34.10 | dexter- | i can't get it to build on mine |
| 01:34.13 | JeffM | as you may not have rights to your install dir |
| 01:34.19 | a_meteorite | is it as simple as diffing the binary and pulling down the changed parts? |
| 01:34.23 | a_meteorite | or is it more complicated? |
| 01:34.28 | JeffM | dexter-: check the forums people have been posting them |
| 01:34.33 | JeffM | a_meteorite: that is not what I'm talking about |
| 01:34.33 | dexter- | nothing up to date tho |
| 01:34.36 | dexter- | afaik? |
| 01:34.44 | JeffM | it's bad desgin to make a giant bin |
| 01:34.44 | blast007 | a_meteorite: not the game binaries - the content |
| 01:34.47 | a_meteorite | so only updating changed textures/sounds, etc? |
| 01:34.54 | a_meteorite | ah |
| 01:34.59 | JeffM | yeah that'd be where our content was |
| 01:35.04 | dexter- | textures need updating, imo |
| 01:35.12 | JeffM | then make some :) |
| 01:35.15 | dexter- | i have |
| 01:35.16 | a_meteorite | Winny had a pretty awesome texture pack |
| 01:35.25 | dexter- | pft |
| 01:35.26 | JeffM | he submit it as a patch? |
| 01:35.35 | JeffM | submit them as patches and we can include them |
| 01:35.44 | JeffM | I don't mind adding more default textures |
| 01:35.44 | a_meteorite | I don't think so, I have it somewhere but it's up to him obvbiously if he wants it in bz |
| 01:35.52 | a_meteorite | cause he owns it |
| 01:36.01 | JeffM | yep that's what he has to submit it as a patch |
| 01:36.15 | a_meteorite | I'll give him a ping when he gets on and see if he wants to |
| 01:36.19 | dexter- | that was like 2 years ago |
| 01:36.25 | blast007 | he had an SVN repo of them |
| 01:36.28 | a_meteorite | dexter-: submit yours :) |
| 01:36.38 | JeffM | dexter-: so, bzflag's tank model is 15 years old |
| 01:36.41 | dexter- | worked on like every teexture there is at least 10 versions, lol |
| 01:36.44 | JeffM | 2 years is friggin NEW |
| 01:37.14 | dexter- | and i only helped on most of them |
| 01:37.25 | JeffM | who owns them? |
| 01:37.33 | Supertanker | YES |
| 01:37.38 | dexter- | orbit has the .psd's |
| 01:37.39 | Supertanker | SVN is done updating |
| 01:37.50 | dexter- | http://dexter-m.de/d/ZZ3FF02D22.png |
| 01:37.52 | JeffM | Supertanker: cool now you just need to get the dependencies |
| 01:37.56 | dexter- | he started it, kinda made it a project together |
| 01:38.00 | Supertanker | JeffM, har har, I think I havem ost of them. |
| 01:38.01 | Supertanker | Hopefully. |
| 01:38.14 | dexter- | Just a preview |
| 01:38.30 | JeffM | get the owner to submit them |
| 01:38.42 | JeffM | tho we don't realy use bolts anymore |
| 01:38.53 | dexter- | i'm awar |
| 01:38.54 | dexter- | e |
| 01:38.54 | JeffM | shots got redone |
| 01:38.58 | Supertanker | Looks like I do have them all. |
| 01:39.03 | a_meteorite | not sure if I like those textures.. different strokes for different folks I guess |
| 01:39.04 | Supertanker | Yay for building Blender 3D and Warzone2100 from source. |
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| 01:39.26 | dexter- | pretty gu optimized, anyhow |
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| 01:39.42 | JeffM | dexter-: those walls, what is the base texture? |
| 01:40.15 | dexter- | have like 20 different versions |
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| 01:40.25 | dexter- | which do you mean |
| 01:40.39 | JeffM | the top 3, were they done from hand or did they use existing images |
| 01:40.43 | JeffM | they look familiar |
| 01:41.14 | dexter- | one on the very left is satu's |
| 01:41.26 | dexter- | 2 and 3 are just kind of derived from one version |
| 01:41.43 | dexter- | satus was done by hand |
| 01:41.52 | JeffM | they just reminnd me of some on the image hosting site |
| 01:42.01 | JeffM | and not all of those can be derived from |
| 01:46.12 | Supertanker | Aww, crap, my SDL may be too old. Oh well; I'll be able to play when I 'upgrade' to Ubuntu. |
| 01:46.19 | Supertanker | (The only reason I'm upgrading is so I can have my exploding window effect) |
| 01:46.41 | Supertanker | Too bad I've had so little success with Debian testing/unstable |
| 01:52.20 | JeffM | goes to a party |
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| 01:54.40 | Supertanker | Must be some party. |
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| 02:08.59 | Supertanker | Any way to get BZFlag to *not* connect to the news servers on startup? |
| 02:09.05 | Supertanker | It's very annoying and laggy. |
| 02:10.00 | a_meteorite | I bet -nolist option will do it |
| 02:10.00 | Supertanker | Nevermind |
| 02:10.01 | Supertanker | -nomotd |
| 02:10.06 | a_meteorite | heh or that |
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| 02:14.49 | Supertanker | I haven't played this game in so long |
| 02:14.50 | Supertanker | It's awesome |
| 02:16.41 | Supertanker | Can't wait until I have DSL |
| 02:38.06 | Gabe_G23 | Supertanker: heh :P |
| 02:40.53 | Gabe_G23 | Supertanker: Btw, commenting out the "set motdServer bzflag.org/motd.php" in config.cfg may stop bzflag from trying to contact the page (rather than having to run bzflag with -nomotd *every* time) ever. |
| 02:42.27 | blast007 | no, it won't |
| 02:42.29 | Supertanker | Heh, true. |
| 02:42.33 | Gabe_G23 | blast007: oh |
| 02:42.36 | blast007 | it's already commented out by default |
| 02:42.42 | Gabe_G23 | really? |
| 02:42.44 | blast007 | as it will use the default value |
| 02:42.47 | Gabe_G23 | not on mine, and I haven't changed it |
| 02:42.49 | Gabe_G23 | oh |
| 02:42.58 | blast007 | well, in any case, it won't work that way |
| 02:43.06 | blast007 | there's a command line option though |
| 02:43.11 | Supertanker | I can aqlways set up a synlink |
| 02:43.12 | Gabe_G23 | blast007: perhaps entering a nonexistant server? |
| 02:43.35 | blast007 | bzflag -nomotd |
| 02:43.50 | blast007 | Supertanker: or an alias |
| 02:44.01 | blast007 | alias bzflag='bzflag -nomotd' |
| 02:44.41 | Gabe_G23 | yeah, stick that in your shell's rc file and you'll be good :P |
| 02:47.16 | Supertanker | Well, I'm annoyed. After working with bazaar and svn for so long, I went to peer at git's manpage and found, to my surprise, that I understood it. |
| 02:47.19 | Supertanker | So now I'm lost. |
| 02:47.28 | Supertanker | My snobby sense of superiority over git is gone |
| 02:47.32 | Supertanker | What should I do?! |
| 02:47.49 | trepan | post your woes on a channel that cares? |
| 02:49.02 | Supertanker | I already did. |
| 02:49.21 | Supertanker | At any rate, I was hoping I sounded sarcastic ehough :/ |
| 02:49.36 | Gabe_G23 | Supertanker: #bzflag-chat ^^ |
| 02:49.45 | Gabe_G23 | wait, no, that's for bzflag too :P |
| 02:50.06 | AAA_awright | Supertanker: http://git.bzfx.net/bzflag/ Enjoy |
| 02:50.06 | Supertanker | :P |
| 02:50.13 | Supertanker | What is bzfx? |
| 02:50.31 | Gabe_G23 | http://bzfx.net ? |
| 02:50.35 | AAA_awright | An independent server network/development project thing |
| 02:50.44 | AAA_awright | er, a_meteorite can explain |
| 02:50.45 | Supertanker | ...is this like Tremulous/TremFusion? |
| 02:50.58 | Supertanker | One is stability, one is shininess and zero backwards compatibility? |
| 02:51.02 | AAA_awright | Supertanker: The hosts of Boxy War |
| 02:51.16 | AAA_awright | and Bloodbath 2 |
| 02:51.35 | Supertanker | You're speaking Greek |
| 02:51.46 | Supertanker | I haven't been involved in the BZFlag community since 2002-2003. |
| 02:51.53 | AAA_awright | Never heard of those maps... eh, that was a few years ago |
| 02:52.07 | Supertanker | Just a few years ago. |
| 02:52.28 | AAA_awright | more like 1-4 years ago not 6-8 |
| 02:52.45 | Gabe_G23 | Supertanker: http://my.bzflag.org/w/BZFX |
| 02:53.31 | AAA_awright | Supertanker: Mostly we just work on different projects in the tradition of Duke Nukem Forever |
| 02:54.06 | trepan | fornever, it's a common mistake to forget the 'n' |
| 02:54.37 | Supertanker | Hah |
| 02:56.16 | Supertanker | Ah, okay. |
| 02:56.16 | Supertanker | I see now. |
| 02:57.21 | a_meteorite | We have active projects |
| 03:00.27 | teatree | gnite all |
| 03:00.43 | teatree | 4 a.m geeesh |
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| 03:32.51 | CIA-75 | BZFlag: 03trepan * r20727 10/trunk/bzflag/ (include/BzMaterial.h src/game/BzMaterial.cxx): * const'ified `nullString' |
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| 03:35.09 | Darkedge | When I try starting up bzflags my whole computer locks up, I can't do anything, any ideas? |
| 03:39.06 | a_meteorite | OS? |
| 03:39.17 | Darkedge | a_meteorite: Ubuntu 9.04 |
| 03:39.38 | a_meteorite | locks up how? |
| 03:39.57 | a_meteorite | hard shutdown required sort of lockup? |
| 03:40.09 | Darkedge | a_meteorite: yup |
| 03:40.17 | Darkedge | numlock wont toggle -__ |
| 03:40.26 | a_meteorite | I would check drivers, make sure card isn't overheating or defective |
| 03:40.31 | a_meteorite | *and make |
| 03:40.59 | Darkedge | a_meteorite: wellll |
| 03:43.46 | temporalD | try starting the client in a window with -window and debug with -d -d -d -d |
| 03:45.09 | a_meteorite | that indeed |
| 03:45.53 | Darkedge | temporalD: well unless its logged somewhere, I can't view it. |
| 03:46.15 | temporalD | starting from the terminal? |
| 03:46.20 | a_meteorite | -dddd > log |
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| 04:08.08 | SportChick | a_meteorite: still here? |
| 04:08.27 | a_meteorite | SportChick: yes |
| 04:08.41 | SportChick | (I snnt you a memo... did you get it?) |
| 04:08.53 | a_meteorite | no |
| 04:09.15 | SportChick | /msg memoserv list |
| 04:09.38 | a_meteorite | let's go to #bzfx AAA_awright knows more about freenode policy than me |
| 04:10.07 | SportChick | (phone battery is nearly deqd |
| 04:10.16 | a_meteorite | oh |
| 04:10.39 | a_meteorite | why can't I be founder for both channels? |
| 04:12.44 | AAA_awright | a_meteorite: All of a few paragraphs more, yes |
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| 07:50.49 | jcp | Is it just me or is the list server down? |
| 07:51.03 | jcp | And random question, who runs the box on which the list server runs? |
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| 07:57.04 | a_meteorite | the forums are very slow |
| 08:10.13 | jcp | yeah, that's probably it |
| 08:10.16 | jcp | it's better now though |
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| 17:18.12 | Cobra_Fast | does menotume hang around here sometimes? |
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| 18:42.18 | AAA_awright | ~seen menotume |
| 18:42.19 | ibot | menotume <n=menotume@bzflag/contributor/menotume> was last seen on IRC in channel ##kierra, 18d 1h 8m 12s ago, saying: '~fart tokimi'. |
| 18:42.48 | AAA_awright | Cobra_Fast: Occasionally |
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| 19:44.38 | JeffM | get anywhere with weblogin blast007? |
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| 20:04.19 | mrapplecomputer1 | JeffM: he disabled css because IE can take JavaScript from the css file. Also, he made some progress you can view here: http://static.bzexcess.com/weblogin.html |
| 20:04.25 | JeffM | I know |
| 20:04.27 | mrapplecomputer1 | oh |
| 20:04.30 | JeffM | that he told me last night |
| 20:04.34 | mrapplecomputer1 | Got it |
| 20:04.39 | JeffM | yeah I've talked to him this AM |
| 20:04.44 | mrapplecomputer1 | ok |
| 20:04.45 | JeffM | working on a new logo for it |
| 20:04.49 | mrapplecomputer1 | nice |
| 20:05.08 | JeffM | his new design is much nicer |
| 20:05.10 | JeffM | very clean |
| 20:05.13 | mrapplecomputer1 | yep |
| 20:05.53 | JeffM | http://www.awesomelaser.com/Globe.png |
| 20:08.50 | JeffM | dunno if I like that globe or not |
| 20:12.06 | mrapplecomputer1 | hmm |
| 20:12.13 | mrapplecomputer1 | globe looks nice, but tank not so much |
| 20:12.42 | JeffM | not sure if I want to use the icon or not |
| 20:12.45 | mrapplecomputer1 | JeffM check out these icons, their pretty nice. You could use the tank part of them: http://mcspider.wordpress.com/2010/01/07/bzflag-icons/ |
| 20:13.09 | JeffM | if I'm going to use that shape I'll use our icon |
| 20:13.30 | JeffM | also you can't relicense those files to share alike, please set them to LGPL |
| 20:15.18 | mrapplecomputer1 | oh those arent mine |
| 20:15.23 | JeffM | I see that now |
| 20:15.31 | mrapplecomputer1 | ill let mcspider know |
| 20:15.33 | JeffM | who's are they? there is no contact info on the site |
| 20:16.06 | mrapplecomputer1 | Right at the top, "McSpider's Blog". player from bz |
| 20:16.20 | JeffM | yeah but who is "mcsipder" that's just a name |
| 20:16.29 | JeffM | there is no email or REAL contact info |
| 20:16.55 | mrapplecomputer1 | true... |
| 20:17.17 | mrapplecomputer1 | Well i left him a note |
| 20:17.42 | JeffM | if you trust what a site says I can just make a blog called "mr apple computer's blog" and make posts how I like to dress up in pretty pink skirts and sing the my little pony theme song |
| 20:17.54 | mrapplecomputer1 | Heh |
| 20:18.44 | JeffM | it's good that he put a license there, but he can't change the type on a derived work |
| 20:19.06 | JeffM | tho honestly we should get Tim to change all the artwork to CCSA |
| 20:19.18 | JeffM | it's a better license for art, LGPL is more for code |
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| 20:21.50 | Cobra_Fast | can s.o. please add global groups? |
| 20:22.04 | JeffM | an admin will get to it when they have time |
| 20:22.13 | Cobra_Fast | ok |
| 20:29.54 | JeffM | could always do something like this, http://www.awesomelaser.com/keychain.png |
| 20:36.43 | DTRemenak | suddenly wants one of those |
| 20:36.49 | JeffM | yeah I know |
| 20:37.02 | blast007 | haha |
| 20:37.07 | JeffM | wonder how hard it would be to get em made |
| 20:38.04 | JeffM | I think it works, http://static.bzexcess.com/weblogin.html |
| 20:38.17 | JeffM | maybe nudge it down just a tag |
| 20:38.19 | JeffM | tad |
| 20:39.16 | blast007 | there a darker spot above the keys too |
| 20:39.30 | JeffM | bahh |
| 20:40.12 | JeffM | fixed |
| 20:41.07 | strayer | btw...you can easily include any kind of HTML content (like javascript code) with non-IE browsers too |
| 20:41.30 | JeffM | yeah we are pulling the CSS thing |
| 20:41.55 | JeffM | if we need to be able to cusomise colors later we'll add some paramaters that just set some colors |
| 20:41.57 | strayer | ok - good that I didn't worked on a CSS file so far |
| 20:43.17 | strayer | I think it's not necessary to modify colors as long as the weblogin page has a trustful look (which isn't tha case right now since it looks completely different to all *.bzflag.org pages) |
| 20:43.50 | blast007 | strayer: within CSS files? |
| 20:43.57 | JeffM | well we don't realy have a consistent look |
| 20:43.58 | JeffM | sadly |
| 20:44.04 | JeffM | tht's something we need |
| 20:44.17 | blast007 | easier said than done for stuff like the wiki and the forum ;) |
| 20:44.27 | blast007 | forum especially |
| 20:44.31 | strayer | blast007: yes, you can insert any kind of HTML via CSS |
| 20:44.53 | Cobra_Fast | how would that work? |
| 20:45.15 | blast007 | strayer: hmm, I'm interested in how that is done |
| 20:45.22 | strayer | ever read something about the items ":before" and/or ":after"? |
| 20:45.28 | blast007 | yeah |
| 20:45.49 | Cobra_Fast | do they work in all browsers? |
| 20:45.59 | blast007 | just wan't aware that allowed HTML ;) |
| 20:46.00 | blast007 | tests |
| 20:46.07 | strayer | you can use them to "write" anything you want into a website before or after a element you rely on |
| 20:46.08 | blast007 | Cobra_Fast: no, it's not |
| 20:46.37 | strayer | it's pretty nice but offers many risks as well... |
| 20:46.52 | strayer | it works for all except IE <=7 |
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| 20:47.10 | SalfranCL | hello |
| 20:47.40 | strayer | IE 8, Firefox, Seamonkey, Opera, Safari accept ":after" and ":before" |
| 20:47.44 | strayer | hi |
| 20:48.24 | JeffM | looks like we could have them made DTRemenak, http://www.sz-wholesale.com/P/Acrylic-Keychain/rhombus-shaped-keychains-107347.html |
| 20:49.23 | blast007 | strayer: doesn't seem to allow inserting HTML, just raw text (in IE8, FF 3.5, and Chrome 3) |
| 20:51.15 | strayer | I'm sure I saw an example that completely rewrote a webpage that way |
| 20:51.32 | blast007 | hmm |
| 20:51.50 | blast007 | well, definately another reason to not allow CSS |
| 20:52.08 | JeffM | it's not that important of a feature, as strayer said consistency is better |
| 20:53.38 | strayer | it's at least my point of view...because you want the users to trust the page/form where they enter their passwords...if you let it look like a 3rd party website you just cause irritation |
| 20:53.48 | JeffM | indeed |
| 20:58.00 | JeffM | well to make the current weblogin page look more like the main page, I'd take the white frame, crop it down to under the blue box, remove the blue box and let the gray of the background thru and make the white text larger and on 2 lines. My.bzflag.org /n login page |
| 20:58.50 | JeffM | and maybe make the gray around the login form the same colr as the gray background behind the left sidebar on the main page, |
| 20:59.22 | JeffM | I don't think we can use the logo header from the main site, it's too big and would not fit well |
| 20:59.37 | JeffM | I'm also not fond that it has the version number in it |
| 21:03.00 | blast007 | or maybe it should go the other way :P |
| 21:03.16 | JeffM | as in what? |
| 21:03.22 | JeffM | make the main website look like the login site? |
| 21:03.33 | blast007 | shrugs |
| 21:03.34 | strayer | I agree to let it look more like the main page (why not the forums) - and I never was a friend of the current logo (it's fine for the game but not for a website) |
| 21:03.51 | JeffM | yeah I think the site should have something different |
| 21:03.53 | blast007 | only part about the main site I like is the new icons |
| 21:04.04 | JeffM | I don't mind the general layout |
| 21:04.14 | JeffM | but yeah the logo is not good for the site |
| 21:04.17 | blast007 | yeah, generally it's not bad |
| 21:04.21 | strayer | well...most people know the forum because they need it to register their callsign...so the weblogin page should have an equal design, no? |
| 21:04.23 | JeffM | it's nice art, that's why I think it was used |
| 21:04.43 | JeffM | strayer: except that we are moving away from that |
| 21:04.50 | JeffM | the plan is to have a user manager system |
| 21:04.55 | JeffM | and I hate the fourm layout |
| 21:05.01 | JeffM | the blue is meh |
| 21:05.20 | strayer | future plans in the BZ world are a question of decades...so it can take a while to change it |
| 21:05.24 | JeffM | the only reason I'd not tie the design to the fourm is that how the fourm looks is tied too much to what forum software we use. |
| 21:05.45 | blast007 | strayer: right - but the same will go for revamping the main site ;) |
| 21:05.47 | JeffM | I'd rather make the fourm look more like the mainsite |
| 21:06.05 | strayer | hm ^^ |
| 21:06.09 | JeffM | we could change the background do that gray and just desaturate the rest of the graphics |
| 21:06.34 | blast007 | main thing with the forum is that keeping a custom theme up to date can be a major pain |
| 21:06.43 | JeffM | yeah |
| 21:07.03 | JeffM | I'd rather it match the main site |
| 21:07.11 | strayer | there exist so many phpbb3 designs...isn't there any that is similar to what yoh guys like and where we have to modify a few colors only? |
| 21:07.12 | JeffM | that is the official front page |
| 21:07.22 | strayer | *ypu guys |
| 21:07.25 | JeffM | yeah there may be more themese now |
| 21:07.27 | strayer | ah..typo |
| 21:07.54 | blast007 | the one we have now was one of the less sucky ones ;) |
| 21:08.04 | JeffM | yeah |
| 21:08.04 | strayer | hehe |
| 21:08.48 | blast007 | I'm sure by BZFlag 5.0.0 we'll have written our own forum system ;) |
| 21:10.14 | strayer | hopefully not...or the forum becomes a simple blogs with tag instead of categories :) |
| 21:10.28 | JeffM | thats why we need a social site |
| 21:10.28 | strayer | ok, why not use the current bzbb theme as base for a common design for bzbb, main page (and probably wiki)? |
| 21:10.46 | JeffM | because it's fugly |
| 21:10.58 | strayer | define the basic color scheme and modify the images...done |
| 21:11.09 | strayer | ugly?...well |
| 21:11.14 | JeffM | yeah |
| 21:11.29 | JeffM | hmmm, might be able to make polyethylene work |
| 21:11.33 | JeffM | http://www.phpbb.com/styles/demo/3.0/?style_id=185 |
| 21:11.34 | strayer | it's much better than other phpbb themes I know |
| 21:11.43 | JeffM | very similar style |
| 21:12.09 | JeffM | posting section is decent |
| 21:12.14 | JeffM | and we use custom icons anyway |
| 21:12.21 | JeffM | it'd put the users back on the left like people liked |
| 21:12.55 | mrapplecomputer1 | this looks nice http://www.phpbb.com/styles/demo/3.0/?style_id=20 |
| 21:13.04 | JeffM | yeah I was just on that one |
| 21:13.18 | JeffM | have to darken up the outter background but it's a possibility |
| 21:13.35 | JeffM | it's a little dark in the text areas |
| 21:13.43 | mrapplecomputer1 | hmm |
| 21:13.48 | strayer | isn't the position of the user info a question of float:left/right only? |
| 21:13.51 | JeffM | but it's a possiblity |
| 21:14.21 | mrapplecomputer1 | theres alot of cool themes |
| 21:15.01 | strayer | advantage of mrapplecomputer1's example - it doesn't fix the witdh as much as polyethylene |
| 21:15.12 | JeffM | yeah |
| 21:15.23 | JeffM | I've downloaded em both |
| 21:15.40 | mrapplecomputer1 | oooo shinny http://www.phpbb.com/styles/demo/3.0/?style_id=60 |
| 21:15.51 | JeffM | too dark |
| 21:16.03 | Cobra_Fast | the proFormell thing looks fine |
| 21:16.03 | strayer | too dark |
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| 21:16.12 | Cobra_Fast | just place the tanks as forum bullets |
| 21:16.22 | Cobra_Fast | and put BZFlag at top |
| 21:16.23 | Cobra_Fast | :P |
| 21:16.30 | JeffM | yeah |
| 21:16.42 | JeffM | I can install them and test them with out swaping the default |
| 21:17.17 | JeffM | bets mrapplecomputer1 likes, http://www.phpbb.com/styles/demo/3.0/?style_id=645 |
| 21:17.24 | JeffM | ;) |
| 21:17.24 | strayer | the forum shouldn't become too bzflag-specific because you have to invest more time, new users could find it confusing and old users don't care anyway |
| 21:17.29 | mrapplecomputer1 | haha |
| 21:17.33 | strayer | ...I meant the design |
| 21:17.46 | JeffM | strayer: yeah we don't want to be constatnly tweaking it |
| 21:17.49 | mrapplecomputer1 | thinks that fits blast007 better |
| 21:17.56 | JeffM | all we do is swap the logo and the bullets |
| 21:18.04 | JeffM | mrapplecomputer1: then you don't know him very weell |
| 21:18.05 | JeffM | well |
| 21:18.13 | mrapplecomputer1 | Heh |
| 21:18.25 | strayer | the naruto theme is very detailled...like it somehow :D |
| 21:18.35 | mrapplecomputer1 | last time i checked he was downloading 94 episodes of anime |
| 21:18.37 | strayer | k |
| 21:19.06 | JeffM | please don't assume that the naturo crap is real anime ;) |
| 21:20.40 | strayer | well...it's eye-catching and main stream entertainment (for kids...<= 30 ) |
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| 21:22.46 | JeffM | man, I wish themes would send psd versions of header images :/ |
| 21:23.52 | JeffM | now I gotta find that background image |
| 21:23.53 | strayer | sometimes you can download them from the creator's websites...never for the good themes, or course |
| 21:23.56 | Cobra_Fast | how do i get one of those cool hostnames here on freenode? |
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| 21:24.18 | JeffM | you read the IRC cloak page, see if you qualify, then you ask me |
| 21:25.22 | short_circuit | my god.. how does a padded envelope the size of a sheet of paper rate 8 dollars to mail first class and 7.35 dollars to mail low class?!?! There has to be a cheaper way of mailing 6 oz's of envelope+contents. |
| 21:25.48 | JeffM | short_circuit: priority mail |
| 21:26.00 | JeffM | should be 4.85 for the flat rate envelope |
| 21:26.17 | JeffM | and they give you the envelope :) |
| 21:26.26 | JeffM | you can use your own package for just a little more |
| 21:26.29 | JeffM | bout 5 |
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| 21:26.34 | JeffM | that's how I ship shirts |
| 21:27.07 | short_circuit | I need to stop by a post office then? |
| 21:27.14 | short_circuit | for their envelopes? |
| 21:27.19 | JeffM | if you don't have any yeah |
| 21:27.30 | short_circuit | thanks.. I'll check into that... |
| 21:27.31 | JeffM | you can use your own package, and just pring out the label from USPS.com |
| 21:27.46 | short_circuit | I wonder how many cdr's or dvdr's I could get into one safely ;) |
| 21:28.10 | JeffM | for inside the US you can ship up to 4 lbs in the flat rate package |
| 21:28.15 | JeffM | 8$ gets you a box |
| 21:28.33 | strayer | have to leave (and finish a query script for Armagetron master servers...to penetrate them too ^^) |
| 21:28.37 | strayer | bye guys! |
| 21:28.43 | short_circuit | holy crap. Ok... I'm doin this the wrong way. |
| 21:29.09 | short_circuit | apparently my butt hurt for a reason. |
| 22:02.46 | JeffM | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:03.18 | JeffM | you can see it by changing your theme on the boards |
| 22:04.28 | JeffM | proformell will be harder to make a logo for |
| 22:05.37 | CIA-75 | BZFlag: 03bullet_catcher * r20729 10/trunk/bzworkbench/src/windows/ConsoleWindow.cpp: Include stdio.h for printf() declaration. |
| 22:06.16 | blast007 | BulletCatcher: guess my google'ing was a fail ;) |
| 22:06.28 | JeffM | hmmm and I'd have to change the ranks too .... |
| 22:06.40 | BulletCatcher | No, your suggestion worked, but my change is consistent with the other code. |
| 22:06.47 | blast007 | ah |
| 22:09.17 | JeffM | and I kninda like the poly's version of the per post buttons, just a line across the bottom |
| 22:18.06 | CIA-75 | BZFlag: 03bullet_catcher * r20730 10/trunk/bzworkbench/INSTALL: Provide the Fedora "yum" command to install prerequisites. |
| 22:18.40 | blast007 | the poly one is so-so |
| 22:18.47 | blast007 | I like the current theme better |
| 22:23.10 | JeffM | you look at the other one? |
| 22:23.14 | JeffM | it's installed but has no logo |
| 22:23.57 | blast007 | didn't look too closely at the other one |
| 22:24.30 | JeffM | I just replaved the root level read icons too |
| 22:24.43 | CIA-75 | BZFlag: 03bullet_catcher * r20731 10/trunk/bzflag/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Set the appropriate svn:eol-style Subversion properties on these new files. |
| 22:24.54 | BulletCatcher | That commit is dedicated to Flash. :-) |
| 22:25.15 | blast007 | hehe |
| 22:27.15 | JeffM | well we can't go with a theme that blast007 dosn't like, since he would have to add quick repply to it ;) |
| 22:27.57 | blast007 | JeffM: not really an issue if they are closely based on one the two default themes |
| 22:28.06 | blast007 | otherwise it'll be "more fun" to integrate |
| 22:28.09 | JeffM | dunno if this one is or not |
| 22:28.27 | blast007 | also, 3.0.6 has a really really basic quick reply built in (if the theme files include it) |
| 22:28.36 | blast007 | doesn't have any BBCode stuff, it's just a textarea |
| 22:31.26 | JeffM | that's probably fine for us |
| 22:31.36 | JeffM | that'll cut down smilly abbuse |
| 22:32.56 | blast007 | heh |
| 22:33.21 | blast007 | that was one of the only mods we had to the code then |
| 22:33.29 | JeffM | cool |
| 22:33.48 | blast007 | had some other tweaks to the theme due to the fact we're abusing phpBB groups |
| 22:34.11 | JeffM | I'd just like to get away from the blue fourms |
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| 22:34.50 | blast007 | if we migrate to the group manager, then the only tweaks we'd need would be images and/or CSS which would be really nice |
| 22:35.19 | JeffM | yeah |
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