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| 00:41.42 | bizarrefish | happy new year, all |
| 00:47.12 | brlcad | happy new year! |
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| 01:30.06 | Flash | is looking forward to the massive copyright update commit |
| 01:35.20 | blast007 | heh |
| 01:41.53 | AAA_awright | I don't think you actually update the copyright until you modify the file :) |
| 01:42.36 | Flash | then you haven't been around here for long ;-) |
| 01:44.42 | brlcad | heh |
| 01:46.03 | Flash | it's how brlcad get's his commit count up ;-) |
| 01:47.21 | brlcad | heh, not even close |
| 01:47.23 | brlcad | that's just one commit |
| 01:47.40 | BulletCatcher | He has nothing on my Subversion properties commits. :-) |
| 01:47.41 | brlcad | so maybe 5 of all my commits are copyright updates :) |
| 01:47.48 | AAA_awright | <CIA> 500000 files changed: 2k10//<CIA>50 files changed: missed some//<CIA>600 files changed: oops forgot about bzadmin |
| 01:47.53 | AAA_awright | etc... |
| 01:47.58 | Flash | true, BulletCatcher owns the prop commit record |
| 01:48.24 | brlcad | that'd be interesting, dunno |
| 01:48.32 | brlcad | there were tons of props updates when we migrated |
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| 01:48.47 | brlcad | curious what those counts look liek ;) |
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| 01:49.25 | Flash | I hate when I forget which app has focus |
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| 05:02.46 | mebigfatguy | hmm, 2010 stinks... i'd recommend those on the west coast stay in 2009 |
| 05:03.17 | a_meteorite | got a time machine you can rush to us to avoid the horror? |
| 05:04.12 | mebigfatguy | you already have a time machine, i'm recommending you stop using it. |
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| 07:00.31 | jcp | Happy New Year |
| 07:01.17 | a_meteorite | ~bz20svn |
| 07:01.18 | ibot | [bz20svn] http://my.bzflag.org/w/BZFlag_SVN and svn co https://bzflag.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/bzflag/branches/v2_0branch/bzflag |
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| 16:33.56 | JeffM | welcome to the future. |
| 16:46.12 | mrapplecomputer | JeffM I have an idea for a flag :) |
| 16:49.40 | JeffM | and it is? |
| 16:50.15 | mrapplecomputer | Sorta the oppisite of steamroller. Bad flag, you can basically get squished by other people |
| 16:50.25 | JeffM | that's burrow |
| 16:50.30 | mrapplecomputer | *facedesk* |
| 16:50.42 | mrapplecomputer | alright back to the drawing board |
| 16:51.08 | JeffM | not all ideas have to be flags |
| 16:51.15 | JeffM | honestly the game has too many as is |
| 16:51.39 | mrapplecomputer | is it true that their are going to be tank labels in game in 3.0 |
| 16:52.16 | JeffM | right click to identify has been removed, and the tank that is closest to you, the one that would be identified, as a label over it |
| 16:52.26 | mrapplecomputer | oh |
| 16:52.42 | mrapplecomputer | so theres not labels for all tanks |
| 16:52.51 | JeffM | thre is also an icon that tells you if you are pointing at a teammate |
| 16:52.56 | mrapplecomputer | ah nice |
| 16:53.01 | JeffM | there are labels for all tanks for observers |
| 16:53.03 | JeffM | not for players |
| 16:53.06 | JeffM | bzflag is not wow |
| 16:53.07 | mrapplecomputer | dang |
| 16:53.11 | mrapplecomputer | heh |
| 16:53.57 | JeffM | now I would not be adverse to letting players pick some sort of radar icon that is sown for them on radar |
| 16:54.02 | JeffM | just to there own team |
| 16:54.05 | JeffM | for ID reasons |
| 16:54.09 | JeffM | that could be handy |
| 16:54.27 | mrapplecomputer | yah |
| 16:54.41 | mrapplecomputer | does that sorta relate to the flash thing you were talking about last night? |
| 16:54.47 | JeffM | on god no |
| 16:55.19 | mrapplecomputer | oh lol |
| 16:57.01 | JeffM | that's part of a research project |
| 16:57.07 | JeffM | not to say bzflag could never use it |
| 16:57.11 | JeffM | but that's not it's main goal |
| 16:57.43 | mrapplecomputer | ok |
| 16:59.20 | JeffM | http://www.awesomelaser.com/P24shot.png |
| 17:02.02 | mrapplecomputer | haha nice |
| 17:11.43 | SportChick | happy new year, JeffM |
| 17:12.03 | JeffM | too you too |
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| 19:59.57 | mebigfatguy | i always thought tanks should change shape based on the flag they carried (ie, lasers would enlongate the tank barrel, shockwave would remove the barrel and put some heinous parabolic device on top), etc, etc. |
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| 20:36.20 | JeffM | mebigfatguy: that was one of the reasons for redoing the tank model |
| 20:36.39 | mebigfatguy | ah |
| 20:37.40 | ruskie | steamroller should look something like the apocalypse tank from RA2 ;) |
| 20:37.52 | JeffM | or just have a steamroller on the front |
| 20:38.08 | ruskie | where's the fun in that ;) |
| 20:38.15 | mebigfatguy | yup, and when you flattened someone the tank should spin around the wheel, cartoon style |
| 20:38.26 | JeffM | go watch more cartoons and you'll learn |
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| 21:57.51 | tobylane | whats a generic ban by myself? |
| 21:58.20 | temporalD | for a smart guy, you sure can't put a question together... |
| 21:58.43 | tobylane | for a smart group of people you sure can make a questionable game |
| 21:58.47 | tobylane | so, answerable? |
| 21:59.07 | temporalD | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:59.17 | tobylane | nope, public servers |
| 21:59.57 | temporalD | when will you delete the game from your computer? |
| 22:00.10 | tobylane | i dont leave crap things crap |
| 22:00.16 | tobylane | so after its fixed, when i get bored of it |
| 22:01.00 | tobylane | so, the ban? |
| 22:01.12 | tobylane | just some ass afraid to tell me they banned me? |
| 22:01.34 | temporalD | you asked "whats (sic) a generic ban by myself?" - what could that possibly mean? |
| 22:01.35 | catay | ban related stuff should be discussed witht he server owner |
| 22:01.39 | catay | not here in this channel |
| 22:01.51 | tobylane | i dont know if it is server specific |
| 22:02.00 | tobylane | but then it seems you havnt used the mbl in over two years |
| 22:02.10 | tobylane | ok, ill get a quote |
| 22:02.36 | temporalD | sry channel - i usually try to not feed the trolls... |
| 22:02.53 | catay | what is mbl ? |
| 22:02.54 | tobylane | i rey not to leave crap things crap |
| 22:02.58 | tobylane | master ban list |
| 22:03.07 | tobylane | refused:general ban by tobylane |
| 22:03.08 | catay | ah |
| 22:03.45 | tobylane | it would seem this game could be lacking in enforced ban signing, so thats just some attempt to hide the banner? |
| 22:03.47 | temporalD | you were poll banned - you must have let your personality shine on that server |
| 22:04.02 | tobylane | oh those five hour bans |
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| 22:04.24 | JeffM | what exactly is the problem tobylane? |
| 22:04.24 | tobylane | yeah, people REALLY dont like being told that players coming from other games just cant stand spawnkilling |
| 22:04.40 | tobylane | just a pollban, without an explaining ban reason |
| 22:04.40 | temporalD | why should we care? go away |
| 22:04.53 | me1 | tobylane, poll bans have no place for ban reasons |
| 22:05.03 | tobylane | will you stop accepting spawnkilling as part of the game.. ill happily stop this arguement if you want |
| 22:05.04 | me1 | if you were poll banned, it was probably because the players on the server didn't like you |
| 22:05.04 | me1 | get over it |
| 22:05.14 | tobylane | oh i wonder... morals are out the window |
| 22:05.18 | JeffM | feel free to submit a patch |
| 22:05.25 | tobylane | the ban reason could say you've been pollbanned |
| 22:05.25 | JeffM | tho it'd be as simple option in 3.0 |
| 22:05.35 | JeffM | since the server tells you if a hit kills you |
| 22:05.35 | tobylane | see? you are getting somewhere |
| 22:05.46 | tobylane | by why like 16 years after the game was made |
| 22:05.48 | JeffM | but it's not part of the 2.0.x game |
| 22:05.52 | tobylane | *but why |
| 22:06.03 | JeffM | because bzflag was not made as an internet game |
| 22:06.05 | temporalD | just to piss you off |
| 22:06.09 | tobylane | it really really shows |
| 22:06.14 | JeffM | it was a lan game made to play against friends |
| 22:06.15 | tobylane | see? no wonder i argue |
| 22:06.28 | JeffM | there are other reasons you argue |
| 22:06.30 | tobylane | fine, find me better and i promise never to come back |
| 22:06.38 | JeffM | better? |
| 22:06.44 | tobylane | yeah, lack of fair things that exist in every other game |
| 22:06.51 | temporalD | smart guy forgot a noun |
| 22:06.58 | JeffM | temporalD: leave it |
| 22:06.59 | tobylane | find me any game with anything near similar graphics and size of players |
| 22:07.02 | JeffM | you arn't helping |
| 22:07.15 | tobylane | you said i should leave bz |
| 22:07.19 | JeffM | tobylane: it's not our job to find you enterainement, if bzflag dosn't do it for you, sorry it don't work out |
| 22:07.25 | tobylane | it does |
| 22:07.34 | tobylane | the players attitude doesnt, and thats fixable |
| 22:07.42 | JeffM | hah, not really |
| 22:07.51 | JeffM | people will always be jerks |
| 22:07.55 | tobylane | then they are pathetic idiots, unless there is some other word |
| 22:07.56 | JeffM | as I'm sure you are well aware |
| 22:07.56 | tobylane | yep |
| 22:08.05 | JeffM | ok, that's enough of that here |
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| 22:08.11 | JeffM | if you can't be constructive then don't |
| 22:08.13 | tobylane | so why not educate them to the real world, other games |
| 22:08.28 | tobylane | i am, im proving why they are wrong and showing how its better when they aren't jerks |
| 22:08.37 | tobylane | they dont like that |
| 22:08.42 | JeffM | they don't have to |
| 22:08.52 | JeffM | you can't force your way of thinking on others |
| 22:08.52 | tobylane | some even dont like spawnkilling or geno abuse being taken away as its the only way they score |
| 22:08.58 | JeffM | but that's not what this channel is for |
| 22:09.00 | tobylane | my way? its every other game |
| 22:09.20 | tobylane | its flaws of the game, as it just happens to apply to most players of this game and hardly any others |
| 22:09.23 | JeffM | if you wish to talk about a techincal solution to it fine, but if you came here to rant, sorry that's not what this is for |
| 22:09.29 | JeffM | so fix it, you have the source. |
| 22:09.40 | JeffM | make a better bzflag |
| 22:09.41 | JeffM | PLEASE |
| 22:09.47 | tobylane | fine, lets discuss options |
| 22:09.54 | JeffM | I'm even sure you could find people to help you |
| 22:10.14 | JeffM | a server option to disallow kills in N seconds would not be that hard to write up. |
| 22:10.17 | tobylane | ive never really understood the bullet=player-world ratio, its very different to other games |
| 22:10.41 | JeffM | yes bzflag is different then other games |
| 22:10.58 | tobylane | and many differences dont work out well |
| 22:11.03 | JeffM | that's what a lot of people like about it |
| 22:11.03 | JeffM | perhaps |
| 22:11.05 | JeffM | but many do |
| 22:11.17 | JeffM | what exactly are you looking for here, in this IRC channel? |
| 22:11.18 | tobylane | yeah, the one game where spawnkilling is a tactic, not a ban reason |
| 22:11.32 | me1 | woah, deja vu |
| 22:11.34 | tobylane | sensible people, ive found, sensible solutuons, we're trying |
| 22:11.49 | JeffM | not due to your own efforts but ok |
| 22:12.02 | JeffM | but still, even if a techinical solution is found, it can't go in the current game |
| 22:12.13 | JeffM | it would have to be in the next release |
| 22:13.23 | JeffM | so I don't think you'd get an imediate result |
| 22:13.37 | tobylane | how about adding server control in by default so that the admins can easily turn on options like spawning off the base object |
| 22:13.46 | tobylane | the server control plugin blast uses |
| 22:14.09 | JeffM | I'm not familiar with what that plugin does |
| 22:14.30 | allejo | if I'm not mistaken servercontrol is a different plugin to keep banlists in sync |
| 22:14.53 | JeffM | 3.0 has webadmin that provides an easy to use interface to some server settings |
| 22:15.13 | JeffM | but stuff that has to be setup before the game is run can't realy be controlled by anything other then the command line or the config |
| 22:15.17 | tobylane | are other plugins like genoonce likely |
| 22:15.50 | a_meteorite | what the..? |
| 22:16.01 | JeffM | you arn't communicating very well, please try to use full sentances. |
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| 22:16.15 | JeffM | lots of plugins are possible, someone just has to write them |
| 22:16.39 | JeffM | the main goal is to make them very easy for server owners to use, like UT mutilators |
| 22:17.15 | tobylane | if it was possible to add more existing plugins like the plugin to spawn off the team base object or the plugin to only allow one hit per geno flag pickup, and also their options added to the defdault conf file with a little description like the other options |
| 22:17.56 | a_meteorite | people can make plugins and post them, it's up to the server owner if they want to use them |
| 22:18.05 | JeffM | are you saying that -loadplugin NAME is too hard, and that if it was -nogeno it'd be simpler? |
| 22:18.09 | tobylane | unless its in, but not on, by default |
| 22:18.35 | a_meteorite | why should a non-expected action be made default to please a small portion of users? |
| 22:18.41 | tobylane | no, just that some plugins are so beneficial to so many different types of games that they should be included in by default |
| 22:18.52 | JeffM | what do you mean by "included"? |
| 22:18.59 | tobylane | if geno is there, it should be easy to the admin to restrict |
| 22:19.04 | tobylane | added to the plugins folder |
| 22:19.09 | JeffM | activated and turned on? or just easy to enable if the user chooses? |
| 22:19.13 | JeffM | we don't have a plugins folder ;) |
| 22:19.24 | JeffM | I agree that we should ship all our plugins |
| 22:19.31 | JeffM | and windows does do that |
| 22:19.38 | tobylane | oh sorry i thought i saw something in the mac source like that |
| 22:19.42 | JeffM | for 3.0 we are going to try to do that for all OSs |
| 22:20.04 | JeffM | plugins and the API were not a core part of 2.0 when it was first released |
| 22:20.09 | a_meteorite | plugins are available to mac |
| 22:20.15 | allejo | JeffM: isn't it harder to get shipped plugins to work on linux? |
| 22:20.15 | tobylane | just easy to enable, there are other options in conf file which are set to 0, off, and documented |
| 22:20.19 | a_meteorite | just gotta build 'em |
| 22:20.21 | JeffM | 3.0 is the first time we've taken the time to go over the API |
| 22:20.30 | JeffM | allejo: nope, just build em when you build the main binary |
| 22:20.36 | JeffM | if the main binary works, plugins wil work |
| 22:20.40 | allejo | oh |
| 22:20.49 | JeffM | 3.0 has a much better build system for plugins as well |
| 22:20.53 | JeffM | they are not off by default |
| 22:20.57 | a_meteorite | I just wish you could export STL and stuff on windows... *sigh* |
| 22:21.09 | tobylane | http://bzflag.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/bzflag/bzflag/plugins/ that foldr |
| 22:21.12 | tobylane | *folder |
| 22:21.22 | JeffM | that is included with all the sources |
| 22:21.36 | JeffM | and yes we intend to build and ship with with 3 |
| 22:21.54 | tobylane | will there be much added to that, other plugins made since the last work done on it for 2.0 |
| 22:22.07 | ruskie | lol.. a plugin to allow only one shot per geno... I thought that's built in already |
| 22:22.07 | JeffM | that is the list of current plugins |
| 22:22.10 | JeffM | the ones we own |
| 22:22.22 | JeffM | yeah you can do a shot limit on geno |
| 22:22.26 | a_meteorite | that's cvs, quite old |
| 22:22.28 | tobylane | does 2.99 have more |
| 22:22.47 | tobylane | oh it was a wiki link |
| 22:22.49 | a_meteorite | shot limit on flags is built-in to server |
| 22:23.07 | JeffM | 3.0 has more plugins then 2.0.x yes |
| 22:23.13 | a_meteorite | -sl G 1 |
| 22:23.22 | allejo | and allowing free spawns is also built-in to the server |
| 22:23.33 | allejo | freeCTFSpawns |
| 22:23.39 | tobylane | a_meteorite, i think this plugin means that the geno flag is dropped once you kill with it, however many shots you have left |
| 22:23.39 | JeffM | yeah 3.0 has more options as well |
| 22:23.50 | a_meteorite | ah |
| 22:23.55 | JeffM | that would not be a hard one to write |
| 22:23.57 | tobylane | good, then that goes somewhere to solving the problem that spawnkilling is accepted |
| 22:24.08 | tobylane | its been done, its on the forums |
| 22:24.20 | ruskie | you can't solve a social problem with technical means |
| 22:24.22 | JeffM | we can't include code that is just from the fourms |
| 22:24.29 | tobylane | its nice to know that i whinge, players disagree, but you're solving the problem anyway |
| 22:24.33 | allejo | if im not mistaken genoonce does that |
| 22:24.34 | JeffM | the author has to submit it to us as a patch and turn over copyright |
| 22:24.48 | tobylane | you could polish it to your standards if you wanted it in? |
| 22:24.56 | tobylane | allejo, thats the one im talking about |
| 22:25.04 | JeffM | sure if it was turned over |
| 22:25.08 | JeffM | http://bzflag.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/bzflag/trunk/bzflag/plugins/ |
| 22:25.16 | JeffM | that's the plugins dir from 2.99.x |
| 22:25.22 | a_meteorite | a lot of devs don't want to turn over copyright methinks |
| 22:25.22 | ruskie | tobylane, the issue is copyright assignment :) |
| 22:25.44 | tobylane | :D im understanding and liking this process more |
| 22:25.51 | JeffM | those are the plugins that have been writen by us, or given to us by other authors |
| 22:26.12 | a_meteorite | I remember a discussion from a long time ago where some devs suggested plugin devs could have svn access to plugins as long as it was compatibly-licensed |
| 22:26.16 | a_meteorite | if I recall correctly |
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| 22:26.26 | JeffM | now your point of an easier way to turn them on I don't agree with. I think the problem is getting owners to turn them on, not the ammount of text in the config to do so. |
| 22:26.27 | a_meteorite | but that was all it was, a discussion |
| 22:26.44 | allejo | JeffM: when licensing something if you use Public Domain would that be the same as giving you guys the copy right? |
| 22:26.56 | JeffM | nope |
| 22:27.00 | tobylane | there is no copyright to be assigned or sued over |
| 22:27.14 | ruskie | public domain isn't globaly recognised |
| 22:27.14 | JeffM | PD means that the author still owns it, but has given up full rights |
| 22:27.24 | JeffM | so we could relicense it sure, but nott change copyright |
| 22:27.30 | allejo | oh |
| 22:27.31 | tobylane | firefox uses sqlite, thats PD |
| 22:27.35 | ruskie | it's not |
| 22:27.38 | JeffM | all our code is copyright Tim Riker |
| 22:27.44 | ruskie | hmm |
| 22:27.45 | ruskie | actually it is |
| 22:27.48 | JeffM | tobylane: firefox works on a different method then we do |
| 22:28.05 | JeffM | and linking in a lib is different then providing code and saying you own it ;) |
| 22:28.06 | ruskie | but they also use libpng and a ton of other bits and pieces ;) |
| 22:28.07 | tobylane | which is the gpl way |
| 22:28.20 | a_meteorite | bzflag is LGPL |
| 22:28.24 | JeffM | currently we do not rehost any third party plugins |
| 22:28.40 | tobylane | because they arent gpl or because they are 3rd party? |
| 22:28.42 | JeffM | we do rehost some other third party software, but that's only because it's required. |
| 22:28.54 | JeffM | because we see no need to |
| 22:29.09 | JeffM | if we really want it and the author won't turn it over, we'd rewrite it |
| 22:29.12 | ruskie | well techincally it's not required to rehost it :) |
| 22:29.21 | JeffM | functionaly it is |
| 22:29.35 | JeffM | curl, etc.. are needed to make the build work on all OSs |
| 22:29.45 | tobylane | if it was l/gpl and assigned/allowed or PD and it improved the game enough for enough of you to like it then would it go in? |
| 22:29.45 | JeffM | makes general development simpler |
| 22:29.53 | ruskie | I won't discuss it |
| 22:29.58 | ruskie | I consider it wrong ;) |
| 22:30.00 | ruskie | but that's just me |
| 22:30.04 | JeffM | tobylane: if it was THAT needed, we'd write it as a core feature |
| 22:30.18 | JeffM | nothing you have pointed out falls into that category |
| 22:30.37 | JeffM | nor have you tried to get the authors of the plugins you want to give us the code |
| 22:30.44 | tobylane | i agree, rare just busy servers that could do with whats been made |
| 22:30.47 | JeffM | all they have to do is submit it as a patch |
| 22:31.01 | JeffM | tobylane: may I ask, is english your first language? |
| 22:31.06 | tobylane | yes |
| 22:31.11 | JeffM | how old are you? |
| 22:31.14 | tobylane | 18 |
| 22:31.18 | JeffM | k |
| 22:31.33 | tobylane | why? |
| 22:31.36 | a_meteorite | Ahhh, schools have failed us once again... |
| 22:31.42 | allejo | lol |
| 22:31.56 | JeffM | you do not communicate like it is your first language |
| 22:32.01 | JeffM | so I wanted to make sure that is all |
| 22:32.08 | JeffM | if you feel that strongly about plugins that are on the foums but not in BZ then ask the author to submit it as a patch |
| 22:32.11 | tobylane | never heard that before |
| 22:32.14 | tobylane | ok, thanks |
| 22:32.42 | JeffM | we intend to ship plugins premade wtih 3.0 to make stuff simpler for server owners |
| 22:32.53 | JeffM | webamin is a good example of that |
| 22:32.55 | tobylane | yes, that was basically all i asked |
| 22:33.00 | tobylane | good |
| 22:33.53 | tobylane | its odd you say i dont sound english, im autistic but i dont know how much difference that makes |
| 22:34.00 | JeffM | no you asked how to ban yourelf, then we got to your real point after about 30 min of talking ;) |
| 22:34.01 | tobylane | grammatically lazy? |
| 22:34.17 | JeffM | that and your manner of conversation |
| 22:34.30 | JeffM | your statements jump around a bit |
| 22:34.36 | JeffM | and are not always simple to follow |
| 22:34.58 | tobylane | running on my own train of thought or not thinking what you are thinking about or your feelings after what i say? |
| 22:35.01 | JeffM | but yes, I'm all for more plugins getting put into the mainline |
| 22:35.21 | JeffM | most autistic people I know don't have an inner monolouge and say what they are thinking ;) |
| 22:35.49 | JeffM | or maybe your just german at heart :) |
| 22:35.58 | tobylane | huh? |
| 22:36.43 | JeffM | german has a different word order, and you remind me of that |
| 22:36.43 | JeffM | no biggie tho |
| 22:36.43 | tobylane | ill remember that, thanks |
| 22:38.25 | JeffM | on the other hand, a kill limit instead of a shot limit per flag would not be a horrible general option |
| 22:38.44 | allejo | JeffM: don't a lot of languages have the opposite word order than english? like noun before verb. |
| 22:38.47 | ruskie | how about a combo of both? |
| 22:39.02 | allejo | not sure if that's what you meant by "different word order" |
| 22:39.23 | JeffM | allejo: some do yes |
| 22:39.42 | JeffM | ruskie: I can't think of a case where you'd want to mix em |
| 22:39.49 | JeffM | you ether care about shots or kills |
| 22:40.02 | JeffM | how is the shot limit defined now? |
| 22:40.29 | JeffM | +f GM{N} is flag count, where does the shot limit go in there? |
| 22:40.44 | allejo | -sl GM 10 |
| 22:41.06 | JeffM | ok, then yeah -kl GM 1 would fit that pardigm |
| 22:41.52 | JeffM | it'd not be a hard kill limit, as it'd be possible to have some shots in flight that have yet to hit when the first kill happens |
| 22:41.59 | JeffM | depending on shot counts etc.. |
| 22:42.12 | JeffM | but it would probably work well enough |
| 22:42.31 | allejo | can't that be possible as a plugin in 2.x? |
| 22:42.39 | JeffM | yeah |
| 22:42.44 | JeffM | as they said it IS a plugin |
| 22:42.59 | JeffM | I am talking about it as a general per flag feature |
| 22:43.09 | allejo | oh |
| 22:43.20 | JeffM | it's generic enough that it would be a useful feature |
| 22:43.20 | tobylane | is the channel bot logging this year? it only has a 2009 calander on its page |
| 22:43.47 | JeffM | that's because it hasnt' finished a full day of 2010 yet ;) |
| 22:44.05 | JeffM | it uploads the logs at the end of each day |
| 22:44.09 | JeffM | GMT |
| 22:59.59 | tobylane | are there any feature freezes in 2.99, like is the bzrobots as advanced as you want it to be? |
| 23:00.31 | JeffM | we don't really do that kind of ridgid development |
| 23:00.37 | JeffM | bzrobots is better then it was |
| 23:00.46 | JeffM | it's not where I'd personaly want it to be |
| 23:00.50 | JeffM | but it's better |
| 23:01.05 | JeffM | but it's also not exactly release critical |
| 23:01.14 | JeffM | since it's mostly an educational tool |
| 23:06.17 | tobylane | does /poll flagResetUnused include team flags if they arent being held |
| 23:06.26 | temporalD | yes |
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