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| 16:52.17 | dexter- | *spam spam* |
| 16:52.17 | dexter- | http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=15645 |
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| 17:39.21 | macskeeball | I no longer play BZFlag, but I'm the one in charge of its page on IUseThis, a popular downloads site (at least among Mac users). I'd like someone to take that over for me, because I'm not going to update it. |
| 17:39.38 | macskeeball | http://osx.iusethis.com/app/bzflag |
| 17:40.18 | trepan | what updates would be necessary? |
| 17:40.30 | macskeeball | When you're logged into IUseThis, there should be a link to claim ownership of the app. |
| 17:41.00 | macskeeball | Well, it would need to be updated as new versions are released. |
| 17:41.50 | macskeeball | IUseThis is basically a big database of software available for Mac/Windows/iPhone. |
| 17:42.10 | macskeeball | Sort of like download.com or versiontracker.com |
| 17:42.50 | allejo | as is macupdate.com for macs :P |
| 17:42.58 | macskeeball | Yep. |
| 17:43.41 | macskeeball | But at this point IUseThis may actually be more popular than MacUpdate, or at least on a similar level. |
| 17:44.55 | macskeeball | In no particular order, the big three download sites for Macs are IUseThis, MacUpdate, and VersionTracker. |
| 17:46.47 | macskeeball | There's a popular app for keeping track of updates to your installed Mac apps called AppFresh, and it uses IUseThis exclusively. So IUseThis is an important download site for the Mac at least. |
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| 17:48.20 | allejo | how come everyone knew about AppFresh and i didnt until a few weeks ago :/ |
| 17:48.39 | allejo | i would glady take over but i think a dev is better fit :P |
| 17:48.51 | macskeeball | Yeah. |
| 17:49.31 | macskeeball | I posted on the forums but got no response. |
| 17:49.45 | macskeeball | Probably because I posted on Christmas Eve. |
| 17:49.50 | allejo | it's christmas season ;) |
| 17:50.05 | macskeeball | Yup. |
| 17:52.20 | macskeeball | You could take over temporarily or something, because after posting on the forum and now joining the IRC channel, I'm not making any further effort to tell people about the IUseThis page. |
| 17:52.49 | macskeeball | And if nobody takes it over, it's never going to be updated. |
| 17:53.05 | trepan | at the current dev rate, that may not be an issue ;) |
| 17:53.14 | macskeeball | har |
| 17:53.44 | allejo | oh i say the page wont be updated in the near future :P |
| 17:55.28 | macskeeball | Is there a general BFlag developer email address I can contact? |
| 17:55.52 | BulletCatcher | This IRC channel is the best place to contact the BZFlag developers. |
| 17:56.02 | allejo | generally devs *eventually* read the forums :P |
| 17:56.08 | macskeeball | k |
| 17:58.00 | macskeeball | Well, I guess I'll just leave it at that, and stop checking the thread for replies. I should get email notifications of those anyway. |
| 17:58.17 | BulletCatcher | Will it be harder in the future for someone to claim ownership of the bzflag page on IUseThis? Or will it be easier to take action today? |
| 17:58.31 | macskeeball | Whatever happens, happens. By. |
| 17:58.47 | BulletCatcher | Okay. Thanks for the info. |
| 17:58.54 | macskeeball | Easier today, because in order for someone to claim ownership I have to approve it. |
| 17:59.14 | allejo | me or bullet can take it temporarily until devs get back |
| 17:59.22 | macskeeball | And once I leave this IRC channel, I'm not checking thins anymore. |
| 17:59.23 | macskeeball | Ok |
| 17:59.25 | BulletCatcher | Give me a few minutes to register. |
| 17:59.28 | macskeeball | Sure. |
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| 18:05.03 | macskeeball | brb |
| 18:05.34 | BulletCatcher | I clicked on the "I own this" link, and it says it sent the e-mail. |
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| 18:13.03 | macskeeball | Back. |
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| 18:14.21 | macskeeball | No email yet, but it's a Yahoo account and takes a while to update. |
| 18:14.39 | macskeeball | I'll be checking that account though. |
| 18:16.13 | macskeeball | And I'll post some handy info in the thread on the forum about contacting IUseThis in case there are any issues with transferring ownership from me to you or from you to a dev. |
| 18:16.41 | BulletCatcher | Great. Thanks. |
| 18:26.20 | macskeeball | Posted. Here's the thread (in General Discussion): http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=15640&start=0 |
| 18:27.39 | macskeeball | One more check of the email before I go⦠nope, nothing yet. |
| 18:28.09 | BulletCatcher | Hmm. I received the account registration e-mail immediately. |
| 18:28.43 | macskeeball | Yahoo Mail tends to be very slow at receiving new emails in my experience. |
| 18:29.22 | BulletCatcher | Okay, I assume you'll respond whenever it shows up. |
| 18:29.33 | macskeeball | Yes, that's the plan. |
| 18:29.47 | BulletCatcher | Cool. Thanks for your help. |
| 18:29.59 | macskeeball | You're welcome. |
| 18:30.07 | macskeeball | Bye. |
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| 22:35.54 | scgtrp | anyone know where i can find bzwtools now? both the links i've found seem to be down |
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| 22:37.01 | blast007 | that's the only page that was hosting it afaik |
| 22:37.12 | blast007 | scgtrp: what OS are you on? |
| 22:37.18 | scgtrp | blast007: linux |
| 22:37.29 | blast007 | any specific distro? |
| 22:37.36 | scgtrp | arch, there are no packages for it |
| 22:37.43 | blast007 | I have some build directions for building bzworkbench on ubuntu |
| 22:37.54 | blast007 | which might be enough for you |
| 22:37.55 | scgtrp | i'm looking for the blender plugin |
| 22:38.14 | blast007 | right, and like you said, it's down |
| 22:38.29 | blast007 | and not affiliated with the project |
| 22:38.42 | blast007 | BZWorkBench is |
| 22:39.04 | blast007 | depends what kind of map you're intending to make |
| 22:39.17 | blast007 | BZWB can't create free-form mesh objects |
| 22:39.25 | blast007 | but I think it can at least read them |
| 22:39.32 | blast007 | hasn't tried |
| 22:39.49 | scgtrp | dunno yet, just going to play around with it for a while until i'm sufficiently inspired to make a map |
| 22:40.08 | blast007 | well, if you're interested --> http://bzexcess.com/2009/11/bzworkbench-on-linux/ |
| 22:40.44 | scgtrp | it'll have to do, i suppose |
| 22:41.08 | scgtrp | nobody here already has bzwtools? |
| 22:42.39 | blast007 | have you tried sending Teppic a PM on the forum? |
| 22:43.17 | Bambino | http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=15647 - spam |
| 22:43.24 | scgtrp | ../src/windows/ConsoleWindow.cpp:48: error: printf was not declared in this scope |
| 22:43.28 | scgtrp | *sigh |
| 22:43.47 | Bambino | and a few more here http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewforum.php?f=2 |
| 22:45.03 | allejo | *sigh* spam yet again |
| 22:46.21 | blast007 | yeah, it's a forum. it gets spammed. |
| 22:47.26 | allejo | lol |
| 22:50.12 | scgtrp | blast007: got bzworkbench to compile, it'll do for now. thanks |
| 22:50.18 | scgtrp | (also, pm sent to teppic) |
| 22:50.22 | blast007 | okay |
| 22:50.40 | blast007 | if you find any problem with BZWB, let us know - it's still in beta/alpha/pre-alpha ;) |
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| 22:52.31 | scgtrp | blast007: is there no undo in bzwb? |
| 22:52.39 | blast007 | probably not |
| 22:52.47 | scgtrp | that'll be my first feature request then ;) |
| 22:58.52 | scgtrp | second one (is there a bug tracker or something?): ability to directly input numbers for world size, etc. instead of clicking the little arrow buttons |
| 23:01.03 | blast007 | if you hit the Configure button you can |
| 23:02.07 | blast007 | some of the options in there may rely on features only available in development versions of BZFlag |
| 23:03.13 | blast007 | and you can use the bug and feature request trackers for the BZFlag project on sourceforge |
| 23:03.47 | blast007 | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=3248 |
| 23:04.05 | scgtrp | blast007: clicking configure without anything selected does nothing, i mean in scene>configure world |
| 23:04.26 | blast007 | ah |
| 23:09.07 | scgtrp | blast007: what category should i use for bzworkbench bugs? bzedit was something else iirc |
| 23:10.59 | blast007 | just added a BZWorkBench category for Bugs and Feature Requests :) |
| 23:12.25 | scgtrp | updated my bug, thanks |
| 23:12.37 | scgtrp | er |
| 23:12.46 | scgtrp | i also accidentally posted it in bugs instead of feature requests |
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| 23:57.53 | scgtrp | ok, does *anyone* have a copy of bzwtools they can tar up and send to me? bzworkbench just doesn't seem mature enough for general use yet |