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| 01:06.28 | belvis | Bambino: hey man |
| 01:06.33 | Bambino | okie cool |
| 01:06.39 | belvis | im Supra7 |
| 01:06.43 | Bambino | log into the bzbb forums |
| 01:06.48 | belvis | ok |
| 01:07.35 | belvis | ok im on |
| 01:07.43 | Bambino | k, go to User Control Panel |
| 01:07.56 | Bambino | then 'Usergroups' |
| 01:07.57 | belvis | ok there |
| 01:08.05 | Bambino | and you will see the groups you got made |
| 01:08.53 | belvis | ok |
| 01:09.02 | Bambino | see 'em? |
| 01:09.02 | belvis | so i just click on my owner group? |
| 01:09.04 | belvis | select that one? |
| 01:09.06 | belvis | yes |
| 01:09.08 | Bambino | k |
| 01:09.21 | Bambino | you can click on it to view who is in the group |
| 01:09.23 | blast007 | you have to click on the "Manage Groups" on the side if you want to add members |
| 01:09.30 | Bambino | yup :) |
| 01:09.39 | Bambino | and if it is a hidden group, closed, open, etc |
| 01:09.46 | belvis | ok cool |
| 01:10.01 | belvis | now is everyone an admin at my server now? that is anyone who is an admin elsewhere? |
| 01:10.11 | Bambino | nope |
| 01:10.22 | Bambino | when you use the groups (global one) |
| 01:10.26 | belvis | ok |
| 01:10.44 | Bambino | only the people in those groups will have the permissions you specify in the groupdb |
| 01:10.50 | belvis | is it acceptable practice to make anyone you know as an admin an admin on yours? |
| 01:11.06 | Bambino | it's standard, but not recommended |
| 01:11.08 | Bambino | :) |
| 01:11.25 | Bambino | "noobie" server owners/kids tend to make anyone who joins admins |
| 01:11.36 | Bambino | they tend to be at the bottom of the server list |
| 01:11.40 | belvis | nah didnt want to do that |
| 01:11.50 | Bambino | didn't think so |
| 01:11.52 | belvis | wanted to put a few people in there that i had seen on other servers |
| 01:11.58 | Bambino | add people you _trust_ |
| 01:12.01 | belvis | right |
| 01:12.09 | belvis | so only the -groupdb gets set? |
| 01:12.20 | belvis | HOLYCROSS.GROUP ? |
| 01:12.23 | Bambino | yes |
| 01:12.40 | Bambino | HOLYCROSS.ADMIN: ban kick setvar antiban antikill |
| 01:12.41 | Bambino | etc |
| 01:12.56 | belvis | those are already set or do i have to do them? |
| 01:12.59 | Bambino | you should also have "everyone" and "verified" in the group db |
| 01:13.01 | blast007 | http://static.bzexcess.com/groups <-- example of a group file |
| 01:13.05 | belvis | ok |
| 01:13.08 | belvis | thanks blast007 |
| 01:13.22 | Bambino | EXCESSIVEBZ.OPERATOR: ALL -HIDEADMIN OPERATOR FAIRCTF TIMELIMIT |
| 01:13.28 | Bambino | operator is a perm? |
| 01:13.32 | belvis | I really appreciate the help guys.. |
| 01:13.37 | Bambino | any time :) |
| 01:13.48 | blast007 | Bambino: nope |
| 01:13.48 | me1 | OPERATOR is probably for the operator/whatever plugin |
| 01:13.54 | Bambino | right |
| 01:13.57 | blast007 | I haven't written the plugin yet ;) |
| 01:14.01 | Bambino | lol... |
| 01:14.01 | me1 | heh |
| 01:15.13 | Bambino | belvis: also, -userdb and -passdb aren't very secure |
| 01:15.22 | belvis | ok |
| 01:15.31 | belvis | i wont use them then.. i have those turned off |
| 01:15.39 | Bambino | Like don't /setgroup people into groups |
| 01:15.44 | Bambino | add then globally |
| 01:15.49 | Bambino | much more secure |
| 01:15.50 | belvis | just use the forum interface? |
| 01:15.53 | Bambino | yup |
| 01:16.16 | Bambino | when you add the groupdb and the groups |
| 01:16.21 | belvis | blast007: what is your username on the forum? ok to add you to admin? |
| 01:16.28 | blast007 | 'blast', and sure |
| 01:18.25 | belvis | not going to work til i reset it i see |
| 01:18.50 | belvis | ill probably restart tomorrow once everyone is off |
| 01:18.50 | belvis | or it gets down to 1 or 2 players |
| 01:18.59 | Bambino | yeah |
| 01:19.12 | Bambino | still busy |
| 01:19.41 | belvis | ... -groupdb HOLYCROSS.GROUPS |
| 01:19.51 | belvis | set that in there... will restart soon |
| 01:19.53 | blast007 | is that the name of your file? |
| 01:19.54 | belvis | thanks for the help |
| 01:19.57 | belvis | yeah |
| 01:20.04 | blast007 | ok, just wanted to make sure ;D |
| 01:20.14 | Bambino | heh |
| 01:20.15 | belvis | and pulls from the list server right? |
| 01:20.21 | Bambino | global auth |
| 01:20.28 | blast007 | yup |
| 01:20.32 | belvis | do i need to add any other option? |
| 01:20.37 | Bambino | nope |
| 01:20.38 | belvis | to get it to pull these? |
| 01:20.40 | belvis | ok cool |
| 01:20.44 | belvis | man this is too cool |
| 01:20.54 | blast007 | :) |
| 01:20.54 | Bambino | it checks when players authenticate |
| 01:21.07 | blast007 | eventually there will be a dedicated application for managing groups |
| 01:21.07 | belvis | who wrote the code for this part? |
| 01:21.11 | belvis | ahh |
| 01:21.20 | blast007 | mix of code from different devs |
| 01:21.31 | blast007 | I think it was Tim that first wrote the PHP list server |
| 01:21.33 | belvis | ok.. now if i can just get my nick to work on this irc |
| 01:21.40 | belvis | the list server is purely PHP? |
| 01:21.49 | belvis | or some other stuff behind the scene? |
| 01:21.58 | belvis | i figured it was probably perl or Python doing that part |
| 01:22.03 | blast007 | a PHP script that talks to MySQL |
| 01:22.03 | Bambino | 6 Dev Monkeys working around the clock :P |
| 01:22.11 | belvis | heh heh |
| 01:22.22 | belvis | either of you guys work in IT? |
| 01:22.38 | Bambino | No, grade 11 at a high school with a part time job. |
| 01:22.39 | blast007 | does |
| 01:22.41 | Bambino | ;) |
| 01:22.42 | belvis | oh |
| 01:22.48 | belvis | off to a good start Bambino |
| 01:22.52 | Bambino | thx :) |
| 01:22.53 | blast007 | but this is probably going off topic now ;) there's a #bzflag-chat for this |
| 01:22.55 | belvis | blast007: you a coder? |
| 01:23.00 | belvis | yeah sorry lol |
| 01:23.02 | belvis | my bad |
| 01:23.05 | blast007 | np |
| 01:23.09 | Bambino | heh, happens |
| 01:23.25 | blast007 | I'm a coder, but not for my job |
| 01:23.28 | belvis | im going to look into the code part of the game and see what i can figure out |
| 01:23.32 | blast007 | ok |
| 01:23.40 | blast007 | do you do much coding? |
| 01:23.46 | Bambino | just don't build cheat clients... |
| 01:23.53 | belvis | just scripting and such |
| 01:23.54 | blast007 | hehe.. |
| 01:23.57 | belvis | Python and Java |
| 01:23.59 | blast007 | belvis: ok |
| 01:24.11 | blast007 | can't say we have much/any of either |
| 01:24.21 | blast007 | mostly C++, PHP, and a bit of C# now |
| 01:24.25 | belvis | well thanks again guys |
| 01:24.29 | belvis | i do appreciate the help |
| 01:24.31 | Bambino | I code .bzw xD |
| 01:24.41 | blast007 | belvis: no prob :) |
| 01:24.46 | belvis | man... MrAppleComputer is always giving me a problem |
| 01:24.53 | belvis | he wants me to join his hosting |
| 01:24.54 | Bambino | rofl |
| 01:24.59 | belvis | wont let up |
| 01:25.17 | Bambino | tell him you have a server and you don't want to overload his vps |
| 01:25.20 | Bambino | ;) |
| 01:26.02 | belvis | ahh |
| 01:26.47 | Bambino | also say you like having full access all the time. |
| 01:27.05 | belvis | ok laters guys... feel free to hit me up anytime on the game, here or forum/im |
| 01:27.15 | belvis | or if you see im screwing up ;) |
| 01:27.25 | Bambino | heh |
| 01:27.27 | Bambino | cya later |
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| 01:35.06 | belvis | Bambino: hmm till not working |
| 01:35.26 | belvis | i have tried HOLYCROSS.GROUP and holycross.groups and *.group |
| 01:35.38 | blast007 | what is the filename of your group file? |
| 01:35.47 | belvis | you know im not sure |
| 01:35.50 | belvis | its on the list server |
| 01:35.54 | blast007 | cuz that's what has to go there |
| 01:35.58 | blast007 | you have to make a group file |
| 01:36.02 | belvis | oh? |
| 01:36.08 | blast007 | like the one I referenced |
| 01:36.08 | belvis | i thought they were already made |
| 01:36.11 | blast007 | nope |
| 01:36.12 | belvis | ok np |
| 01:36.16 | belvis | i can do that |
| 01:36.24 | blast007 | search on the wiki for "groups" |
| 01:36.32 | blast007 | you'll get a page on server permissions |
| 01:36.37 | belvis | i wasn't clear then... np blast007 ... ive got some examples |
| 01:36.38 | blast007 | http://my.bzflag.org/w/ |
| 01:36.40 | blast007 | k |
| 01:36.56 | belvis | feels rather silly ;-) |
| 01:37.55 | blast007 | nah, it probably wasn't made clear |
| 01:38.26 | blast007 | the documentation on starting servers isn't all that great (or at least, not as easy to find the good stuff as it could be) |
| 01:41.16 | belvis | but you kknow... makes it worth it once you find it >-D |
| 01:41.42 | belvis | blast007: great... works good now |
| 01:43.06 | blast007 | cool |
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| 01:46.03 | Supra7 | man been awhile since i actually had to do iirc commands |
| 01:59.53 | Bambino | Supra7: got it figured out? |
| 02:00.50 | Supra7 | getting there slowly Bambino |
| 02:01.11 | Supra7 | but yeah did get the groups working :-D |
| 02:01.16 | Bambino | cool :) |
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| 03:04.38 | Bambino | ^ Wiki spam |
| 03:15.36 | CIA-72 | BZFlag: 03Xiaoyuokok05 07http://my.bzflag.org * r6705 10/w/Ugg_Classic_elegant_Short_Boots: New page: Originally made to keep peopel???s feet warm for [http://www.myuggs.org buy ugg boots] and others in places with a lot of rough weather, Ugg boots have become the must have footwear for me... |
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| 03:47.55 | delusional | bambino.. so delete it |
| 03:52.08 | Bambino | don't I have to be a wiki admin to delete it? |
| 03:52.42 | temp_dist | you can empty the page |
| 03:53.05 | temp_dist | pages* there are two now |
| 03:54.01 | Bambino | ah, rigt |
| 03:54.38 | Bambino | right** |
| 03:59.57 | CIA-72 | BZFlag: 03Bambino 07http://my.bzflag.org * r6706 10/w/Ugg_Classic_elegant_Short_Boots: Replacing page with 'Uggs are Ugg-ly' |
| 04:00.25 | temp_dist | lol |
| 04:00.38 | Bambino | I'm sorry, I just had to ;P |
| 04:01.23 | temp_dist | o |
| 04:01.48 | CIA-72 | BZFlag: 03Bambino 07http://my.bzflag.org * r6707 10/w/Frming: Replacing page with 'You have no life. Go Away.' |
| 04:01.50 | Bambino | Here comes the other one, not as witty |
| 04:07.57 | CIA-72 | BZFlag: 03Blast 07http://my.bzflag.org * r0 10/w/Special:Log/block: blocked [[User:Xiaoyuokok05]] with an expiry time of 1 year (account creation disabled, e-mail blocked): Spamming links to external sites |
| 04:08.07 | CIA-72 | BZFlag: 03Blast 07http://my.bzflag.org * r0 10/w/Special:Log/block: blocked [[User:Coputer]] with an expiry time of 1 year (account creation disabled, e-mail blocked): Spamming links to external sites |
| 04:08.33 | CIA-72 | BZFlag: 03Blast 07http://my.bzflag.org * r0 10/w/Special:Log/delete: deleted "[[Ugg Classic elegant Short Boots]]": spam |
| 04:08.49 | CIA-72 | BZFlag: 03Blast 07http://my.bzflag.org * r0 10/w/Special:Log/delete: deleted "[[Frming]]": spam |
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| 05:26.59 | Penth | ping |
| 05:27.58 | Constitution | invalid destination |
| 05:28.01 | Bambino | pong... |
| 05:30.41 | Penth | ty - had some weirdness w my lan. |
| 05:31.13 | Bambino | try ~ping next time |
| 05:31.17 | Bambino | ~ping |
| 05:31.26 | ibot | ~pong |
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| 13:18.44 | *** topic/#bzflag by brlcad -> http://cia.vc/stats/project/BZFlag || http://my.BZFlag.org/w/Getting_Help || Channel Logs: http://ibot.rikers.org/%23bzflag/ || http://ohloh.net/projects/189 || LIST SERVER SCHEDULED DOWNTIME: TUESDAY 29 SEPTEMBER, 11PM-1AM EDT |
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| 15:06.38 | Bambino | The entire forum just got spammed. |
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| 15:10.46 | Ashvala | heya |
| 15:48.29 | brad | brlcad: whats the downtime for? (just curious) |
| 15:49.22 | brlcad | brad: the server is being moved within the datacenter from one rack to another (newer networking equipment and power feeds) |
| 15:49.42 | brlcad | different switch, new IP addresses |
| 15:50.29 | brlcad | the DNS update will probably be the most disruptive as it has to be timed to coincide with the downtime, and DNS can take a while to propagate globally |
| 15:51.46 | BulletCatcher | It isn't too late to lower the TTL. |
| 15:53.02 | BulletCatcher | I just posted a BZBB announcement of the outage, by the way. |
| 15:53.23 | brad | ah :] |
| 15:56.04 | brlcad | BulletCatcher: thanks |
| 15:56.22 | brlcad | the update will go out with a low ttl |
| 15:58.11 | BulletCatcher | If you can lower the TTL now then the new address will propagate more quickly when you change it. |
| 15:59.19 | brlcad | ttl should already be low -- some dns servers still ignore |
| 16:00.43 | BulletCatcher | It is currently 8 hours. If it were me, I would set it to 10 minutes for the rest of the day. |
| 16:00.45 | BulletCatcher | There is nothing to be done for those who ignore the TTL, but the rest will benefit. |
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| 16:03.50 | BulletCatcher | Ah. Too many DNS records. |
| 16:04.19 | BulletCatcher | I see that bz.bzflag.bz has a TTL of 2 hours, but my.bzflag.org is 8 hours. |
| 16:05.20 | BulletCatcher | Do we need TimRiker's help for bzflag.org changes? |
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| 16:11.52 | brlcad | we will |
| 16:12.34 | BulletCatcher | If we change the URLs for the in-game MOTD and the master ban list from just bzflag.org to something like my.bzflag.org then my.bzflag.org can be a CNAME, and this type of change will be simpler in the future. |
| 16:12.35 | brlcad | just decreased the ttl to 20 minutes for .bz |
| 16:13.03 | brlcad | technically, the soa's ttl, but that's where the 2 hrs comes from as it's presently set up |
| 16:13.46 | brlcad | already e-mailed tim about the change, so he should get on it quick when needed |
| 16:15.22 | BulletCatcher | I can already see the 20-minute TTL for bz.bzflag.bz, but the clients all use bzflag.org addresses so those are the ones that matter. |
| 16:17.57 | BulletCatcher | The Ducati web site at league.bzflag.net is already a CNAME for bzflag.bz, so no change will be needed there. |
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| 16:49.36 | blast007 | BulletCatcher: I threw up a MOTD announcement |
| 16:50.38 | blast007 | does it sound okay? (last one) http://bzflag.org/motd.php |
| 16:53.52 | BulletCatcher | That looks fine, although I wouldn't bother with the apology there. |
| 16:57.06 | blast007 | k |
| 16:57.13 | trepan | s/We apologize for the inconvenience/Suck it up, buttercup/ |
| 16:57.29 | blast007 | lol |
| 17:01.47 | BulletCatcher | FWIW, "we apologize for the inconvenience" is a deliberate Douglas Adams reference. |
| 17:11.31 | temp_work | looks to me like http://store.bzflag.org is still down |
| 17:11.44 | temp_work | I remember someone mentioned this a month ago... |
| 17:12.23 | temp_work | so maybe that MOTD is outdated. |
| 17:12.26 | blast007 | temp_work: actually we switched to selling white paint, and wanted to demo how it looks |
| 17:12.36 | temp_work | ah - I'll take 10 |
| 17:12.39 | blast007 | hehe |
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| 17:56.01 | brlcad | thanks guys |
| 18:03.54 | WarPig | Who wrote the genostats plugin? anyone know? |
| 18:09.53 | trepan | google knows |
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| 19:48.01 | Bambino | WarPig: l4m3r did |
| 19:48.57 | Bambino | WarPig: http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?f=79&t=12418 |
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| 21:28.49 | TimRiker | I shortened the ttl, etc for all bzflag.* zones. |
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| 21:53.12 | brlcad | TimRiker: thanks! |
| 21:53.58 | brlcad | should be about five hours from now if they keep to the schedul |
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