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| 02:00.19 | temp_dist | trepan, since you were slightly interested in that last Hub error, I have a new one now. |
| 02:00.21 | temp_dist | >>> DISCONNECTED <<< Hub: lua_pcall() error: [string "hub.lua"]:1227: attempt to concatenate field '?' (a nil value) |
| 02:00.28 | temp_dist | x3 |
| 02:27.14 | trepan | ah, nothing important :) |
| 02:27.35 | trepan | just means that you're missing a binding to 'hubcompose' |
| 02:32.01 | temp_dist | you wanted something fun to work on, right? :) |
| 02:44.23 | trepan | temp_dist: nope, about finished here (and ... that one took 5 seconds, including opening the file; hardly 'fun') |
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| 05:04.56 | Bambino | USA PATRIOT is spamming like crazy on norang |
| 05:05.34 | Bambino | nvm, swigg got 'em |
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| 14:28.49 | ts | There's a new spammer: http://my.bzflag.org/bb/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=44636 |
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| 17:12.26 | CIA-72 | BZFlag: 03trepan * r20655 10/trunk/bzflag/ (14 files in 6 dirs): |
| 17:12.26 | CIA-72 | BZFlag: * removed the unused messages.cxx/messages.h files |
| 17:12.26 | CIA-72 | BZFlag: * re-added the PauseCodeCancel value |
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| 18:01.39 | jcp | Is there any sort of API for accessing stats information on my.bzflag.org? |
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| 20:25.26 | blast007 | jcp: http://my.bzflag.org/rssgenerator.php |
| 20:25.32 | blast007 | that's all, though |
| 20:25.56 | jcp | hmm |
| 20:25.58 | blast007 | so no, not really an API |
| 20:26.08 | jcp | If I learned php and wrote something that actually works, would you consider putting it up? |
| 20:26.09 | blast007 | the current site will likely go away at some point anyway |
| 20:26.27 | blast007 | we want to move to a push system instead of a query system |
| 20:26.47 | jcp | ah |
| 20:26.53 | jcp | yeah, I can see how that would be better |
| 20:26.58 | jcp | How often does the current site query anyway? |
| 20:27.07 | KTL | push system? |
| 20:27.10 | blast007 | 5 or 10 minutes |
| 20:27.22 | jcp | KTL: where servers tell my.bzflag.org when a player joins/parts, etc |
| 20:27.28 | KTL | ah |
| 20:27.30 | jcp | instead of my.bzflag.org asking them every 5 or 10 minutes for their player list |
| 20:27.34 | jcp | (like it does right now) |
| 20:27.36 | blast007 | KTL: yeah, servers would push data to the centeral server instead of the central server querying a snapshot every 5 minutes |
| 20:27.36 | KTL | thanks |
| 20:27.56 | blast007 | should give a more accurate set of stats, since the game server knows the full history of the user's scores |
| 20:28.16 | jcp | yeah |
| 20:28.20 | jcp | Is such a site already in the works? |
| 20:28.30 | blast007 | not sure if the site part is |
| 20:28.40 | blast007 | I know there was a daemon that was being written in C# |
| 20:28.46 | blast007 | to collect the data |
| 20:31.00 | jcp | ok |
| 20:31.34 | jcp | If it's not going to be replaced in the immediate future, then if I wrote such an API php file (that worked correctly), would there be any chance of it getting put onto the main site? |
| 20:32.04 | blast007 | meh |
| 20:32.12 | blast007 | maybe ;) |
| 20:32.26 | jcp | goes out to write one |
| 20:32.52 | blast007 | probably better if you didn't just "go and write one" |
| 20:33.44 | jcp | ? |
| 20:35.25 | jh` | jeffm not around? |
| 20:35.37 | blast007 | the "going off and writing stuff and then dumping a big batch of code" doesn't usually work too well |
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| 20:37.42 | joevano | jh`: taking some time off |
| 20:38.01 | jh` | ah |
| 20:38.14 | jh` | good for him |
| 20:39.23 | joevano | anyting someone else can help you with? |
| 20:39.41 | jh` | nah, i used to chat with him sometimes |
| 20:40.29 | jh` | dont need help |
| 20:48.45 | BulletCatcher | jcp, you probably still have svn commit access. If blast007 will give you a path name to use then our standard "commit early, commit often" process will allow all of us to help with the PHP file as needed. |
| 20:48.49 | BulletCatcher | I assume that an extra step is necessary to promote files from svn to the the live web site, so there should be no risk during early development. |
| 20:51.18 | jcp | yeah, that's kinda what I was thinking |
| 20:51.33 | jcp | but it'll probably be a bit before I actually start on it |
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| 20:53.27 | WarPig | blast007: What level of player detail is to be pushed? Just joins/parts/scores? Shot statistics? Chat history? |
| 21:00.17 | BulletCatcher | It won't record chats. |
| 21:00.22 | BulletCatcher | Right now it would record the player, team, kills, killed count, TKs, and team scores. That is the type of data we are interested in. |
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| 21:01.55 | BulletCatcher | The stats push system still needs a fair amount of work before it is done. |
| 21:02.13 | WarPig | How much code is done? |
| 21:02.50 | WarPig | Also, is this a 3.0 feature, or is a push plugin to be developed? |
| 21:03.13 | WarPig | s/3.0/3.x/ |
| 21:03.20 | BulletCatcher | There is a pushstats plugin for 2.0.x, untested as far as I know. |
| 21:03.40 | BulletCatcher | It will be integrated into 3.0. |
| 21:03.46 | WarPig | k |
| 21:04.11 | WarPig | Any PHP work that needs to be done? |
| 21:04.50 | BulletCatcher | Probably. I don't think the part that runs on the web server has even been started yet. |
| 21:05.48 | BulletCatcher | Yeah. It is 404. |
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| 21:11.30 | WarPig | There would be a daemon of some sort, I imagine, to listen for the pushes, and a SQL database (MySQL I hope!) to store the data. |
| 21:11.42 | WarPig | Then a web based componenty to make the data accessible |
| 21:12.42 | WarPig | Is there any sort of requirement document for the web based piece? |
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| 21:31.04 | BulletCatcher | I suspect that most of the original stats push design is in JeffM's head, but in his absence we ought to be able to figure it out. |
| 21:31.08 | BulletCatcher | If you are interested in contributing, WarPig, we always have room for more developers. |
| 21:31.26 | a_meteorite | so Jeff is MIA?> |
| 21:31.45 | BulletCatcher | He is on sabbatical, approximately. |
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| 21:56.08 | jh` | what of jeffm never comes back? |
| 21:56.13 | jh` | *if |
| 21:59.58 | Bambino | what if he does? |
| 22:04.42 | jh` | then we can chat again |
| 22:05.31 | blast007 | jcp: oh yeah, was forgetting you had commit access |
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| 22:07.26 | jcp | ah, ok |
| 22:07.59 | blast007 | just remembers some large patches that have been dumped on us in the past |
| 22:08.03 | blast007 | like a rewrite of bzfs :P |
| 22:08.10 | jcp | what |
| 22:08.12 | jcp | seriously? |
| 22:08.17 | jcp | who on earth would do that? |
| 22:08.23 | jcp | and why? |
| 22:08.55 | blast007 | stuff like that is more common than you'd think |
| 22:09.22 | blast007 | and then they get upset when you don't use it ... well, it's pretty much impossible to review all the changes they made at that point |
| 22:09.45 | jcp | yeah, a whole re-write of the server... |
| 22:10.51 | blast007 | yeah. probably would have take us as long to review as it would to do it ourself |
| 22:10.56 | jcp | yeah |
| 22:11.57 | Bambino | Spammer http://my.bzflag.org/bb/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=44650 |
| 22:12.06 | me1 | beat you |
| 22:12.17 | jcp | Is it just me or have the bzflag forums been getting spammed a lot in the last couple of days? |
| 22:12.44 | blast007 | it's been a lot more |
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| 22:14.03 | blast007 | I haven't been banning as many of them |
| 22:14.14 | blast007 | keeping track of the ones I delete, and then banning repeat IPs ;) |
| 22:14.31 | blast007 | figure a lot of them are proxies anyway |
| 22:14.49 | jcp | Do the forums get proxy information from anywhere? |
| 22:14.54 | jcp | (like DroneBL for example) |
| 22:14.57 | blast007 | not really |
| 22:14.59 | jcp | Because if they don't, that might help a bit |
| 22:15.06 | blast007 | there is at least one list it pulls from |
| 22:15.14 | blast007 | but more can by added by modifying the source |
| 22:15.21 | blast007 | I tried added one for Tor |
| 22:15.27 | blast007 | but the service isn't perfect |
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