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01:53.04delusional2.99 client seems ok with snow leopard.. a little wonky with the escape and function keys, otherwise ok
01:54.42BulletCatcherAre you using a recent SDL 1.3 snapshot?
01:55.02delusionali didntt install sdl at all
01:55.18BulletCatcherHuh.
01:55.44delusionalconfigure: WARNING: could not find an appropriate SDL version. BZflag will build without SDL
01:56.17BulletCatcherI don't have SDL on my 10.4 system either.  It works pretty well for me, too.
01:56.32delusional*** The sdl-config script installed by SDL could not be found
01:59.19BulletCatcherWhen you start bzflag, what is the string after "running on" in the chat window?
02:02.48delusionalMacOS 10.6.0 i386
02:03.12BulletCatcherOkay.  You are running in 32-bit mode.
02:03.24BulletCatcherts says that SDL is required for 64-bit mode.
02:03.41delusionalalso says ... darwin 9.8.0-SDL (0108)
02:04.28BulletCatcherThat's odd.  It shouldn't say "-SDL" if there is no SDL.
02:04.39delusionalthats what it says
02:04.44BulletCatcherI believe you.
02:10.08BulletCatcherWhat is the output of a "grep HAVE_SDL include/config.h" command when run from the top level of your build tree?
02:10.16BulletCatcherThe first line should be sufficient.
02:11.04delusional2 lines
02:11.13delusional<PROTECTED>
02:11.14delusional<PROTECTED>
02:13.39BulletCatcherThe -SDL you see makes no sense.
02:14.13BulletCatcherAnd I don't get it on my system.
02:14.53blast007delusional: do you see in in a src/bzflag/bzflag -version
02:14.54blast007?
02:15.14BulletCatcherDid you do a clean compile after upgrading to 10.6?
02:16.29delusionali downloaded a new directory to my brand new disk
02:17.01BulletCatcherDownloaded how?
02:17.08delusionalblast  blast, you mean /bzglag/src/bzflag?
02:17.14delusionalfrom svn
02:17.47BulletCatcherWhat revision does "svn info" say you have?
02:17.54delusionali have src/bzflag.. but not src/bzflag/bzflag
02:18.26blast007the binary shuld be in src/bzflag, named 'bzflag'
02:18.52blast007but I'm just guessing, so do what BulletCatcher says instead ;)
02:19.06delusionalChecked out revision 20587.
02:19.54BulletCatcherOkay.  Your output does not match that revision.  I think you are running a slightly older version from somewhere.
02:20.14BulletCatcherTry a "which bzflag" command.
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02:21.54BulletCatcherYes, and r20587 is the most recent revision, but it would say "Mac OS X" instead of "MacOS".
02:22.17delusionalwhich bzflag does nothing.
02:22.23delusionalnot even an error
02:22.30blast007delusional: how did you launch the client? what command?
02:22.49delusionaldouble click
02:23.44delusionaloh no i didnt
02:23.52delusionalhad to se the -directory
02:25.11delusionalit's not remembering the -directory path, have to enter it every time
02:25.22blast007try running it from the terminal
02:25.30BulletCatcherAnother thing to look at is that same red version line in the chat window.  Part of it will say 2.99.50-20090905 or similar.  What is the actual build date?
02:25.30blast007cd to the root of the checkout
02:25.35blast007and run src/bzflag/bzflag
02:25.36delusionalhave to, won't run without -directory
02:26.01delusional<PROTECTED>
02:26.02blast007on linux, at least, I can run it without -directory by running it as "src/bzflag/bzflag" from the root of the source
02:26.17blast007no, cd to /Users/delusional/bzflag/bzflag/ first
02:26.24blast007then just do this:  src/bzflag/bzflag
02:26.54blast007can't remember if that works on OSX or not
02:27.09BulletCatcherIt works for me, but I had to use -directory the first time.
02:27.14blast007hmm
02:27.15blast007k
02:27.28BulletCatcherAfter saving settings, it remembers the directory.
02:27.28blast007must be platform specific code that handles that
02:27.38BulletCatcherCould be.
02:28.13blast007or OSX handles the working directory different
02:28.49delusionali had "auto-save on exit" turned off... changed it, and now i dont need -directory
02:28.57BulletCatcherHah!
02:30.45delusional2.99.5  date 20090906
02:33.34BulletCatcherThe only suggestion I have is to do a fresh rebuild: "make distclean", then autogen.sh, configure, and make as usual.
02:34.46delusionalwhy?  
02:34.46BulletCatcherThat ought to make it say "darwin 9.8.0" without "-SDL".
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02:35.48delusionali just wanted to see if it would work at all... i was about to boot back into 10.5 and finish some backups before insalling 10.6 onto my main disk
02:36.40delusionali'll do another build then
02:36.49BulletCatcherIt isn't terribly important.  I'm pretty sure that you just have some odd mix of old code somewhere in there.
02:37.18delusionali have problems with SDL in 10,5... always had problems with sdl
02:38.46BulletCatcherIf you have a version older than 1.2.13 then upgrading might help, but at this point you might as well just move on to 10.6.
02:39.05BulletCatchers/version/version of SDL/
02:41.03delusionali just wanted a working client..... now i can proceed with backups.
02:42.48BulletCatcherYay, backups.
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06:59.24tsBulletCatcher: Mac OS X 10.6 is Darwin Kernel Version 10.0.0 .. so his kernel version doesn't match, either
07:03.40tsBulletCatcher: I'm not sure if #ifdef __LP64__ will do in the future..apple uses #if __LP64__ in 1/2 of their headers and #ifdef in the other half
07:05.24tsBulletCatcher: For now it compiles but I have to add some checks regarding SDL 1.3 to configure.ac .. but the detections seems to be buggy
07:05.45tss/seems/seem/
07:06.03tsNote to myself: Lean to type :S
07:06.09tslearn, even
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07:44.48trepanfwiw, http://trepan.bzflag.bz/ftgl-crash.txt
07:50.31CIA-72BZFlag: 03trepan * r20588 10/trunk/bzflag/src/ (5 files in 2 dirs):
07:50.31CIA-72BZFlag: * /messagepanel checks for <prev> and <next> before named tabs
07:50.31CIA-72BZFlag: * more informative '/hub /status'
07:50.31CIA-72BZFlag: * only call hubLink->serverParted() if a connection existed
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11:43.52brlcadtrepan: what does text.c_str() look like?
11:44.24brlcadlooks like Advance ran off of the end of a non-null-terminated array
11:44.58brlcadahh, negative code getting cast
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12:16.30brlcadI don't see it, but it looks like it's either the template instantiation or the unicode iterator
12:17.46CIA-72BZFlag: 03brlcad * r20589 10/trunk/bzflag/src/other/ftgl/src/FTUnicode.h: make sure our chars are all unsigned so we don't end up coercing a template instantiation to char where we start spitting out negative values.
12:19.46CIA-72BZFlag: 03brlcad * r20590 10/trunk/bzflag/src/other/ftgl/src/FTFont/FTFont.cpp: try harder to make sure we don't get a <char> template instantiation. getting a negative character code on high ascii values that causes a crash in FTGlyphContainer::Advance().
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12:50.51CIA-72BZFlag: 03brlcad * r20591 10/trunk/bzflag/src/other/ftgl/src/FTGlyphContainer.cpp: FTVector's [] will let you run beyond the vector (crash), so manually make sure our glyph index is within bounds.
12:51.57brlcadtrepan: I don't expect any of that actually fixed the problem, but maybe some peripheral damage control -- where's that diacritical A input coming from so I can try to reproduce here?
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14:12.35CIA-72BZFlag: 03bullet_catcher * r20592 10/trunk/bzflag/src/other/ftgl/msvc/ (7 files in 2 dirs): Change the Subversion svn:eol-style property from CRLF to native to match upstream.
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15:19.12CIA-72BZFlag: 03bullet_catcher * r20593 10/trunk/bzflag/src/other/ftgl/ (79 files in 7 dirs): Update Sam Hocevar's e-mail address per FTGL upstream revision 1207.
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15:22.01samthanks :-)
15:23.02BulletCatcherYou're welcome.
15:23.04BulletCatcherI hope to have BZFlag's copy of FTGL fully merged with upstream by the end of the day.
15:23.53BulletCatcherI just need to be careful not to lose the changes we have made deliberately.
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15:41.44BulletCatchersam: In FTGL msvc/Makefile.am you should add $(vc9_files) to the EXTRA_DIST list, and CDemo.vcproj to the vc9_files list.
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15:47.31samBulletCatcher: thanks. can you maybe confirm it works? I'm not on a linux box ATM
15:47.46CIA-72FTGL: 03sammy * r1222 10/trunk/msvc/Makefile.am: Add missing entries to the list of distributed MSVC files.
15:47.56samI hope tortoisesvn didn't butcher the line endings
15:48.58BulletCatcherThe change looks fine here.
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18:14.08CIA-72BZFlag: 03bullet_catcher * r20594 10/trunk/bzflag/src/other/ftgl/src/FTGlyphContainer.cpp:
18:14.09CIA-72BZFlag: Change colon to semicolon to fix a typo.
18:14.09CIA-72BZFlag: Make the new glyph variable in Advance() "const" to keep gcc happy.
18:17.46BulletCatchertesting, or at least compiling, FTW
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20:28.40CIA-72BZFlag: 03bullet_catcher * r20595 10/trunk/bzflag/src/3D/FontManager.cxx:
20:28.40CIA-72BZFlag: Prepare for the upcoming removal of GL_BLEND tampering in FTGL revision 1214 upstream by explicitly enabling or disabling GL blending as needed in FontManager::drawString().
20:28.40CIA-72BZFlag: Use glPushAttrib() and glPopAttrib() to simplify GL state management.
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20:37.17tsBulletCatcher: http://bzflag.pastebin.com/m2d0e3083
20:40.35tsBulletCatcher: Or was that change made by brlcad? I don't know what the proper solution would be. Deleting "unsigned" is obvious but I don't think that would be intended.
20:41.09brlcadI caused that
20:41.21BulletCatcherI get the same error.
20:41.30brlcadoddly compiled fine for me
20:43.29tsbrlcad: Which compiler and platform?
20:43.43brlcadmac
20:43.47tsI've gcc4.2 on Mac OS X 10.6
20:44.15ts(with 64 bit CPU)
20:44.19brlcaddoesn't really matter, doesn't get closer to a fix :)
20:44.28tsJust curious
20:45.13brlcadcould have been something as simple as dependency updates not rebuilding everything (like they should)
20:45.52trepanbrlcad: FTFont/FTFont.cpp:448: error: 'signed' or 'unsigned' invalid for 'type name'
20:46.26tsbrlcad: I uses make distclean
20:46.45trepanand the 'char = X' string came from bz.Print() statement via HubLua.cxx
20:46.45tsbecause I'm adding a detection for SDL 1.3.0
20:46.51brlcadtrepan: yeah, it's a dumb mistake
20:46.56brlcadts: still not helping :)
20:47.04ts:(
20:47.43CIA-72BZFlag: 03brlcad * r20596 10/trunk/bzflag/src/other/ftgl/src/FTFont/FTFont.cpp: revert mistake
20:48.05brlcadwas early, wasn't thinking too clearly
20:51.52brlcadthe problem as I remember from the stacktrace was an index of -127 getting cast to int ..
20:52.10trepanthis crash bug could be fun, '/sendmsg nemesis crash now ÀÀÀ'  (with a resilient patched client)
20:52.12brlcadprobably because char-code -64 for that A diacritical was not found
20:53.36brlcadtrivial to "prevent the crash", but not while staying close to supporting unicode or upper-ansi
20:53.58brlcad(i.e., trimming all chars > 127)
20:54.00tsHmm, server list formatting seems to be broken, table in trunk disappearing when selecting servers
20:55.37BulletCatcherMy r20595 probably did that.
20:55.54BulletCatcherI'll take a closer look.
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21:19.05CIA-72BZFlag: 03bullet_catcher * r20597 10/trunk/bzflag/src/3D/FontManager.cxx: glPopAttrib() doesn't seem to restore the GL_TEXTURE_2D state, so revert part of r20595 and always call glBlendFunc() with appropriate parameters.
21:19.16BulletCatcherThat should fix the server list table, ts.
21:19.55tstries
21:20.20BulletCatcherDo or do not.  There is no try. </yoda>
21:20.30tsyes, it does for me
21:20.41BulletCatcherCool.
21:20.56tsMaster yoda doesn't apply here
21:21.22tsLuke wasn't testing, he was trying to do something
21:21.52tsI'm unsure what to do with my not working 1.3 changes.
21:22.19tsEither SDL is buggy or the changes are but with the changes it at least compiles
21:23.41tsShould I check them in and hope someone(tm) will fix it?
21:23.59BulletCatcherDo you think it will break anything else?
21:24.12tsNot that I know.
21:25.21BulletCatcherYou may be the only one at the moment with a 64-bit 10.6 system.  If so, then it doesn't really matter either way.
21:25.59tsHmm yeah
21:30.30BulletCatcherSo it's your choice whether to follow our "commit early, commit often" credo or to wait until someone else needs your changes, by which time more upstream SDL bugs may be fixed and it'll work better.
21:31.45trepanBulletCatcher: i doubt that glPopAttrib() wasn't reverting the GL_TEXTURE_2D state, it's more likely that it was enabled before the call to drawString()
21:32.09BulletCatcherThat makes sense.
21:34.36trepanprobably from HUDuiControl::renderFocus()
21:40.25CIA-72BZFlag: 03t-s * r20598 10/trunk/bzflag/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Detect SDL 1.3 and use some experimental changes in that case to circumvent build errors
21:43.13CIA-72BZFlag: 03t-s * r20599 10/trunk/bzflag/src/platform/SDLWindow.cxx: #ifdef not #if
21:59.42trepants: r20598 broke the SDL build for those without SDL1.2.10  (SDL_LIBS = '')
21:59.49trepans/without/with/
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22:05.41CIA-72BZFlag: 03trepan * r20600 10/trunk/bzflag/configure.ac: * revert to SDL1.2 settings if SDL1.3 is not available
22:07.24trepani'm not sure that the rest of your logic is what you intended either
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