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00:18.30Thumper_KingRobot: I run the norang.ca servers - what's up?
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00:55.06CIA-76BZFlag: 03trepan * r20362 10/trunk/bzflag/ (14 files in 4 dirs):
00:55.06CIA-76BZFlag: * fixed fogging for several glBlendFunc(..., GL_ONE) sections of code
00:55.06CIA-76BZFlag:  (explosions, bolt shots, lasers, and tank jump jets), by temporarily
00:55.06CIA-76BZFlag:  setting the fog color to black
00:55.07CIA-76BZFlag: * removed the unused TracerSceneNode code
00:55.44trepanmuch better looking than my previous hack in BackgroundRenderer  :)
00:56.33trepanlaser still looks a little off for me, but that's GL implementation dependent
01:01.17CIA-76BZFlag: 03trepan * r20363 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzflag/DebugDrawing.cxx: * fog the debugging junk properly as well
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05:36.20CIA-76BZFlag: 03trepan * r20364 10/trunk/bzflag/src/geometry/BoltSceneNode.cxx: * touchups
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10:21.31cygalDTRemenak: hi
10:23.31cygalDTRemenak: as you might have seen, replay now works better than 2.0, some bugs still exist, but they're not the priority at the moment. I'm moving on to "rendering bugs"
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11:13.38joevano~cygal++
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12:31.47CIA-76BZFlag: 03wyk3d * r20365 10/branches/gsoc_bzauthd/src/ (7 files in 2 dirs):
12:31.47CIA-76BZFlag: Handle gettoken and checktoken http requests.
12:31.47CIA-76BZFlag: Return the randtext sent in the email at registration request.
12:31.47CIA-76BZFlag: Added options to intersectGroups to be able to intersect without a callsign, with all groups and to return uids.
12:37.45CIA-76BZFlag: 03wyk3d * r20366 10/branches/gsoc_bzauthd_db/ (bzfls.php userstore.php):
12:37.45CIA-76BZFlag: Added better encoding and more debug output for request.
12:37.45CIA-76BZFlag: Added gettoken and checktoken requests.
12:37.45CIA-76BZFlag: Added new options to intersectGroups and used it in the list and add actions for groups advert.
12:37.45CIA-76BZFlag: Added code to insert the randtext into the db on a successful registration.
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13:53.56tobylanetwice today after using bzflag, but not all of the times, my screen has been zoomed in and i cant undo it the normal os way
13:54.15tobylaneno reccent setting changes, and its the official download for mac
13:55.18tobylanelast time i had to restart to fix it, anything simpler?
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15:18.42x_ares_xcan you move the radar to a different position?
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15:36.59BulletCatcherx_ares_x: No.  The radar is always in the lower left corner.
15:37.42BulletCatchertrepan: Is it okay to remove --enable-luaexecs from configure?
15:38.03trepanand to always have it enabled?
15:38.46BulletCatcherI thought they were gone now.  Should have looked closer.
15:39.05trepansrc/other/lua/Makefile.am
15:39.33trepani'd be game for removing the option and just building them
15:39.44trepanit's trivial to build them, a couple of files  ;)
15:41.25trepanand ... did the src/other/curl/m4/libtool.m4 change work for you?
15:41.35BulletCatcherI'll build them in my next compile and let you know what I think.
15:42.23BulletCatcherYes, the libtool hack works.  It is an ugly hack, though, that I'll fix when I have my own libtool 2 system for testing.
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15:43.10trepanBulletCatcher: it's a better hack than having to revert
15:43.23BulletCatcherYes.
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16:00.45trepanhm, 'bzlua' requires -lreadline, which configure.ac doesn't check for, and no other bz exec requires
16:01.02trepanso leaving them as optional is the easiest path
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16:07.22CIA-76BZFlag: 03trepan * r20367 10/trunk/bzflag/src/other/lua/src/lua.h:
16:07.22CIA-76BZFlag: * editted the LUA_VERSION and LUA_RELEASE strings to flag the
16:07.22CIA-76BZFlag:  fact that the lua library is not compiled from pure sources
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16:09.01CIA-76BZFlag: 03trepan * r20368 10/trunk/bzflag/src/other/lua/README_BZFLAG: * documented r20367
16:11.33Traveler8hello, i have a problem; i have compiled now successfully bzflag on an ubuntu machine, but when i start bzflag, it shows only a black screen and nothing happens. It also used 50% of my cpu.
16:12.24Traveler8i dont get any error message when i start it from a terminal
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16:15.03BulletCatcherTraveler8: You may not have accelerated graphics enabled on your system.  What is the output of a "glxinfo | grep direct" command?
16:16.55Traveler8direct rendering: Yes
16:17.54BulletCatcherThat indicates that acceleration *is* enabled.  So far, so good.
16:19.13BulletCatcherDoes bzflag run in a window?  "bzflag -window" is the way to try it.
16:20.26Traveler8black window
16:20.47Traveler8and my mouse cant move out of the window
16:21.18BulletCatcherThere is a configuration option to allow moving the mouse out of the window.
16:22.12BulletCatcherDo you have any other OpenGL applications that work correctly?
16:22.26Traveler8dunno, ill try it
16:23.24Traveler8a screensaver with some 3d-ants works
16:24.14BulletCatcherHow about "glxgears" ?
16:24.57Traveler8yes, works
16:25.42Traveler8output needed?
16:25.52BulletCatcherno, thanks
16:25.58Traveler8ok
16:26.25BulletCatcherIt seems like your system is okay.  I don't know why your compiled version of bzflag isn't.
16:26.26BulletCatcherHave you tried using the Ubuntu bzflag package?
16:27.02Traveler8no i didnt
16:27.05Traveler8i will try it
16:27.19BulletCatcherThat is usually the easiest way to get it running.
16:27.40BulletCatcher"apt-get bzflag" I think
16:27.49Traveler8apt-get install bzflag :P
16:27.58BulletCatcherI'm a Fedora guy. :-)
16:28.09JeffMwhat video card is it?
16:28.19Traveler8radeon hd4850
16:28.28JeffMwhat driver are youusing?
16:28.34Traveler8fglrx
16:28.42JeffMI'd try radeonhd if you can
16:28.46JeffMit tends to work better
16:29.25JeffMATI card/driver combos sometimes have issues wiht some of the modes we set, like the scissor buffer
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16:33.29Traveler8and it also eats more and more ram when i let it run ive just noticed now
16:33.51Traveler8it was at 380mb when ive killed it
16:34.08JeffMyeah it's probably driver
16:34.18JeffMwe don't allocate that much
16:35.12JeffMblack screen means we asked for an openGL context, and it said it worked, but never finished initalising it properly
16:35.48Traveler8hmm
16:36.17JeffMradeonhd is a good driver, I recomend trying it
16:36.32JeffMit has helped in this case in the past
16:36.41Traveler8ok
16:36.44JeffMand if not you can always go back to your current driver
16:37.29JeffMtho on ubuntu I've had no problem with bzflag on a 4850
16:37.36JeffMusing the driver you have
16:37.48JeffMbut versions always differ
16:46.02Traveler8ok, i will reboot now
16:46.12JeffMgood luck
16:46.19Traveler8thanks
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16:49.06Traveler8It works :D
16:49.08Traveler8thank you
16:49.39JeffMcool
16:49.51JeffMyeah radeonhd is the newer ATI supported driver
16:50.00Traveler8but the fps is really low
16:50.08JeffMhow low?
16:50.42Traveler87 fps at window mode and highest settings
16:50.57JeffMgo into the options and turn of blending and smoothing
16:51.16Traveler811 fps
16:51.40JeffMwhen it started up in the chat window did it say direct rendering or mesa?
16:52.06Traveler8"Software Rasterizer"
16:52.20JeffMthen it's not using radeonhd
16:52.22JeffMit's doing mesa
16:52.26Traveler8oh
16:53.08Traveler8how do i change this, or is there any way to change it?
16:53.22JeffMdunno, I'm not a fedora expert
16:53.27Traveler8i am on ubuntu
16:53.32Traveler8bullet catcher is on fedora
16:53.44JeffMahh yeah sorry
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16:53.52Traveler8heh, no problem
16:53.59JeffMwell I'm not an ubuntu experet ether
16:54.04JeffMwhat version of ubuntu do you have?
16:54.11Traveler89.04
16:54.29JeffModd, that's worked for me on the few machines I've tried it on
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16:58.48Traveler8maybe ive edited the xorg.conf wrong
16:59.24Traveler8http://pastebin.com/m20f54fd9
17:05.54BulletCatcherI don't see an obvious problem with your xorg.conf, but that is probably where the fault lies.  Renaming it and generating a new one from scratch may help.
17:09.35Traveler8okay, i have to go now
17:09.54Traveler8thanks for the help, bye
17:09.58BulletCatcherGood luck.
17:10.05Traveler8thank you
17:10.10BulletCatcherYou're welcome.
17:26.53x_ares_xdoes anyone here have a problem with driving forward, turning left, and shooting at the same time?
17:35.36JeffMkeyboard or mouse?
17:41.17x_ares_xkeyboard
17:41.40JeffMsome keyboards/OSs have limits on how many keys can be detected at one time
17:41.51JeffM3 is a common limit
17:42.08x_ares_xwell, i can go forward, right, and shoot at the same time..
17:42.41JeffMit's probably your keyboard then, left and something else may share a channel
17:42.47x_ares_xhm
17:42.48JeffMit a cheap keyboard?
17:42.51x_ares_xno
17:42.56x_ares_xit's a logitech
17:43.06JeffMwhat OS?
17:43.11x_ares_xlinux, ubuntu
17:43.16JeffMdunno then
17:43.33x_ares_xit happened when i was on windows as well..
17:43.35JeffMbut I've seen that before due to keyboards not being able to detect them all
17:43.41JeffMthen it's proably the board
17:43.58x_ares_xwell, i was using a different keyboard as well
17:44.00x_ares_xso idk..
17:44.23JeffMwe just ask the OS/SDL for what keys are down each frame
17:49.33trepanbut in an event driven fashion, not via polling
17:50.02JeffMat some point it's polled, in SDL IIRC
17:50.35x_ares_xit's weird, because i can jump at the same time..
17:50.52trepanJeffM: don't think so, probably only for the modifier keys
17:50.55x_ares_xi'ma try changing my firing key
17:51.02JeffMtrepan, ok
17:52.04trepanSDL_GetKeyState() isn't used anywhere, but SDL_GetModState() is
17:52.16x_ares_xhm, so it's the combo of keys i'm using that is doing it..
17:52.28x_ares_x(arrow key up, right, and space bar..)
17:52.38trepanwhich is why "jump" should be bound to both "up" and "down" for whichever key uses it
17:52.59x_ares_xwait, what?
17:53.05trepanKeyManager should probably enforce that ...
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18:40.51DTRemenakcygal: ok, sounds good to me.  please make sure the remaining known bugs in replay are documented so they don't get forgotten.
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21:37.36trepanspot the diff:  http://trepan.bzflag.bz/shadows.jpg
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23:30.13Constitutionreal shadows?!
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