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| 00:29.03 | bryjen | ~bzpastebin |
| 00:29.04 | ibot | rumour has it, bzpastebin is http://pastebin.bzflag.bz or a place to put large chunks of text so as not to flood a channel |
| 00:31.31 | bryjen | segfaulting firing a GM across an empty world http://pastebin.bzflag.bz/m46dd71df |
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| 01:23.55 | temp_dist | build error - sorry if this has been mentioned already |
| 01:23.57 | temp_dist | http://bzflag.pastebin.ca/1491384 |
| 01:24.32 | JeffM | you autogen and config again? |
| 01:24.44 | temp_dist | good idea - will try now |
| 01:28.52 | temp_dist | same result after that - maybe try the distclean command (if I can remember it) ? |
| 01:53.15 | temp_dist | make distclean then autogen, config worked this time - good build |
| 01:53.55 | JeffM | cooleo |
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| 02:34.09 | randomparticle | my bzflag build tree is about half a gig in size. does that sound about right? |
| 02:34.37 | randomparticle | no forkage in there |
| 02:35.52 | temp_dist | 416.7 MB here |
| 02:36.23 | randomparticle | ah, thanks |
| 02:36.26 | randomparticle | that's reassuring |
| 02:37.29 | Mets | really? |
| 02:38.13 | Mets | hmm yeah same here - why is it so big? |
| 02:38.27 | Mets | that's almost the size of my vegastrike build |
| 02:38.51 | randomparticle | maybe intermediate object files |
| 02:39.03 | randomparticle | i have make cleaned source tree and it's only 41MB |
| 02:39.22 | temp_dist | src is over 350 MB |
| 02:43.40 | randomparticle | 719 .obj files total 159MB |
| 02:44.18 | randomparticle | 30 .lib total 69MB |
| 02:44.38 | randomparticle | still a lot to account for : |
| 02:49.20 | Mets | interesting |
| 02:49.27 | Mets | temp did you build trunk or branch? |
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| 02:49.48 | temp_dist | that's just trunk |
| 02:50.06 | temp_dist | OSX |
| 02:50.27 | temp_dist | did not make an application bundle - just a binary with "make" |
| 02:51.41 | Mets | yeah same for me |
| 02:52.10 | Mets | oh well - wanna do a 3.0 test drive? |
| 02:52.20 | temp_dist | sure |
| 02:52.37 | Mets | anybody else too for that matter |
| 02:53.24 | temp_dist | I still get that FTGlyph ASSERTION FAILED error |
| 02:53.42 | temp_dist | something about the font generation... |
| 02:53.48 | Mets | oh I think I had that, what's your screen resolution? |
| 02:54.18 | temp_dist | 1680x1050 |
| 02:57.27 | Mets | yeah I'm looking for the log |
| 02:57.30 | Mets | on what I had to do to fix it |
| 02:57.32 | Mets | same res |
| 02:58.23 | temp_dist | only matters if there is a fix that can be rolled into the code - it doesn't affect the game play |
| 03:00.00 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 07http://my.bzflag.org * r6531 10/w/BZFlag_3.0: Update with better info about 3.0 |
| 03:00.44 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 07http://my.bzflag.org * r6532 10/w/BZFlag_3.0: /* =No TK Option */ |
| 03:01.28 | randomparticle | the menus in trunk still awfully slow under os x |
| 03:01.56 | randomparticle | e.g., about 7 seconds to move change the radar size 1 step on the slider |
| 03:03.01 | temp_dist | I don't see that - maybe just 1/2 second to do that |
| 03:03.11 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 07http://my.bzflag.org * r6533 10/w/Talk:V3RCChecklist: |
| 03:03.23 | randomparticle | this is on a mac pro with 8800gt |
| 03:03.58 | randomparticle | if you hold down the left or right arrow key does it freeze for you? |
| 03:03.59 | temp_dist | same with a 7300GT |
| 03:04.07 | temp_dist | no it doesn't freeze |
| 03:04.12 | randomparticle | curious |
| 03:04.23 | temp_dist | not at full screen nor windowed |
| 03:05.15 | temp_dist | do you have scoreboard/controlpanel font size on auto? |
| 03:05.38 | randomparticle | i'm not sure. can't check atm as i'm back in windows |
| 03:05.55 | temp_dist | k - I did not |
| 03:05.56 | randomparticle | will look later |
| 03:06.18 | temp_dist | maybe my system has just generated all the glyph sizes needed - and yours is still working on that |
| 03:07.38 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 07http://my.bzflag.org * r6534 10/w/BZFlag_3.0: link to checklist and notes on build system. |
| 03:08.19 | temp_dist | should file a bug report about the lack of players on trunk |
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| 03:13.41 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 07http://my.bzflag.org * r6535 10/w/BZFlag_3.0: /* Release Date */ |
| 03:14.32 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 07http://my.bzflag.org * r6536 10/w/BZFlag_3.0: formating |
| 03:14.52 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 07http://my.bzflag.org * r6537 10/w/BZFlag_3.0: formating |
| 03:17.09 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 07http://my.bzflag.org * r6538 10/w/BZFlag_3.0: /* Bug Fixes */ |
| 03:20.27 | Mets | ugh...firing a shot with the gm flag is killing my client |
| 03:20.58 | JeffM | how old is your code? |
| 03:21.05 | Mets | latest revision |
| 03:21.16 | JeffM | did you build debug? |
| 03:21.26 | Mets | yeah, it wants me to debug it |
| 03:21.37 | JeffM | then do so and see where it dies :) |
| 03:21.42 | Mets | :) |
| 03:21.59 | Mets | vector subscript out of range |
| 03:22.02 | Mets | in std::vector |
| 03:22.04 | JeffM | where? |
| 03:22.15 | Mets | line 761, that if statement |
| 03:22.36 | JeffM | statment? |
| 03:22.38 | JeffM | nevermind |
| 03:22.42 | JeffM | I'll look at it later |
| 03:23.57 | Mets | #if _HAS_ITERATOR_DEBUGGING, and it says it failed on _DEBUG_ERROR("vector subscript out of range"); |
| 03:24.09 | Mets | I can replicate it later, give me a holler |
| 03:24.29 | JeffM | it dosn't matter, I can't psycicly read your screen and you arn't giving enough info, I'll look at it localy later |
| 03:27.26 | Mets | alrighty |
| 03:27.46 | Mets | thief also destroys the other player instead of stealing the flag, which is actually kind of interesting - it's like armed robbery :P |
| 03:32.22 | blast007 | JeffM: I can get you the call stack, but I think I see why it's crapping out |
| 03:32.27 | JeffM | no |
| 03:32.41 | JeffM | I'll get to a machine with source at some point tonight |
| 03:32.46 | JeffM | I'm just on the TV right now |
| 03:32.56 | JeffM | it's probalby one of the segment checks |
| 03:33.12 | blast007 | const ShotPathSegment& s = segments[i]; <--- i is negative |
| 03:33.50 | blast007 | k |
| 03:34.00 | JeffM | cus GM dosn't have segments |
| 03:34.07 | blast007 | easy enough to replicate |
| 03:34.13 | JeffM | sucks to be i then |
| 03:34.19 | blast007 | :) |
| 03:34.39 | JeffM | the GM and segmented shot logic must not be as similar as I thought |
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| 03:45.26 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r20120 10/trunk/bzflag/src/game/BzMaterial.cxx: size_t to int |
| 03:49.06 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r20121 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfsPlayerStateVerify.cxx: double to float warnings. |
| 03:49.30 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r20122 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzflag/guiplaying.cxx: float to int warnings. |
| 03:49.49 | trepan | so it's already friday ... i haven't gotten that much done ;-) |
| 03:50.08 | trepan | fixing MsgPause and maybe mesh parity would be about all that i'd get done by Sunday |
| 03:50.10 | JeffM | will another week get us anything major? |
| 03:50.16 | trepan | (relatives visiting) |
| 03:50.28 | trepan | i'd just do the RC anyways |
| 03:50.33 | JeffM | k' |
| 03:50.53 | JeffM | we'll have to work out these shot things then bust it out |
| 03:51.05 | blast007 | afaik, there is still an issue with data being processed (or received) by the client in the reverse order |
| 03:51.09 | blast007 | so it breaks a lot of stuff |
| 03:51.12 | blast007 | like the motto |
| 03:51.24 | trepan | UDP or TCP? |
| 03:51.30 | trepan | or is that the prob? :) |
| 03:51.40 | JeffM | k, can you add that to the checkist as a required. |
| 03:51.48 | blast007 | TCP I assume |
| 03:52.31 | blast007 | the MsgAddPlayer is processed after we get the custom data message, so it doesn't have a valid player to store that data in, and just throws it out |
| 03:52.44 | trepan | shouldn't be too hard to debug |
| 03:52.46 | blast007 | probably also causing the issues where when you rejoin you don't see what flag anyone has |
| 03:55.51 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: 03Blast 07http://my.bzflag.org * r6539 10/w/V3RCChecklist: /* RC Critical fixes. */ |
| 03:56.01 | JeffM | thanks |
| 03:57.15 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: 03Blast 07http://my.bzflag.org * r6540 10/w/V3RCChecklist: /* RC Critical fixes. */ |
| 04:09.36 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: 03Trepan 07http://my.bzflag.org * r6541 10/w/BZFlag_3.0: s/API/BZFS API/, noted the lua bzfs api addition, added some BZW Format changes |
| 04:12.48 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: 03Trepan 07http://my.bzflag.org * r6542 10/w/BZFlag_3.0: noted the 'ricochet' keyword |
| 04:13.34 | blast007 | JeffM: would installing the Visual C++ 2008 SP1 redist even if they already have it be bad? |
| 04:13.44 | JeffM | no |
| 04:13.57 | blast007 | so probably not even worth doing a check |
| 04:14.05 | JeffM | probably not |
| 04:19.46 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r20123 10/trunk/bzflag/src/clientbase/ (3 files): |
| 04:19.46 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: keep the iteration systems of GM and other shots separate as they are rather different. |
| 04:19.46 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: move the hit check once you have a segment into it's own function |
| 04:19.47 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: change the "doBoxTest" to the more accurate "GMTest" |
| 04:20.01 | blast007 | are plugin templates installed to the system? |
| 04:20.29 | JeffM | what do you mean? |
| 04:21.12 | blast007 | as in, copied to the same are as the .so |
| 04:21.18 | JeffM | that I don't know |
| 04:21.20 | blast007 | the the HTTP plugins |
| 04:21.21 | blast007 | k |
| 04:21.31 | JeffM | I'm not 100% convinced that we should ship the server with the windows installer |
| 04:21.44 | JeffM | I'd almost rather make a server package for it |
| 04:22.17 | JeffM | then it can have the start server, the .net platform, etc.. |
| 04:22.24 | JeffM | most people on windows don't host |
| 04:22.33 | JeffM | and you can't start a server from in game anymore |
| 04:23.19 | blast007 | meh |
| 04:24.16 | blast007 | then for making/testing maps, they have three things to install :P |
| 04:25.46 | blast007 | and both would need the VC runtime |
| 04:26.20 | JeffM | pack the serve rup with bzworkbench :) |
| 04:26.22 | JeffM | but ok |
| 04:27.03 | blast007 | could just deactivate the server by default in the installer options |
| 04:28.33 | blast007 | what .NET framework does the StartBZFS need? |
| 04:28.53 | JeffM | 3.5 |
| 04:28.59 | JeffM | I think |
| 04:29.06 | blast007 | k, so there goes Windows 2000 ;) |
| 04:29.13 | JeffM | OH NOES!!! |
| 04:29.31 | blast007 | client/server should still work though |
| 04:33.45 | trepan | running a serverstats.sh, and it hasn't found any responsive non-linux servers yet |
| 04:34.25 | trepan | haven't checked through the script, might also mean that they've disabled observers |
| 04:34.50 | JeffM | I have yet to see a production server run windows |
| 04:35.02 | JeffM | mac every so often, bsd every so often |
| 04:37.07 | blast007 | I found one ;) |
| 04:38.12 | blast007 | looks like trepan probably just found that one too |
| 04:38.24 | blast007 | saw the stats bot it it |
| 04:38.28 | blast007 | hit it* |
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| 04:39.14 | Mets | windows home server isn't bad - does some kind of interesting drobo-like software raid here you can use any size disk |
| 04:39.29 | Mets | *where |
| 04:40.53 | JeffM | there should be at least some bsd ones |
| 04:40.57 | JeffM | as well |
| 04:45.15 | blast007 | the one on windows had jitter mania |
| 04:45.20 | blast007 | 30 to 40ms ;) |
| 04:45.31 | blast007 | with 3 players |
| 04:45.41 | JeffM | did nn run it? ;) |
| 04:46.00 | blast007 | no, it wasn't a comcast bisness conneshun |
| 04:46.09 | JeffM | awesom3 |
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| 04:51.26 | trepan | http://trepan.bzflag.bz/serverstats.20090711 |
| 04:51.50 | trepan | a couple of darwins were the only exceptions to the linux rule |
| 04:52.22 | blast007 | huh, didn't pick up the windows one? |
| 04:52.30 | trepan | nope |
| 04:52.41 | blast007 | bzflags.xanacreations.com:12345 is windows |
| 04:52.58 | trepan | i also changed the script test times from '1 2 4 8 16' to '1 2 4' |
| 04:54.45 | Mets | just curious - for trunk, if you run the webadmin plugin, or any of the new http interfacing plugins, do you have to configure anything special with the http server you're running, or does bzfs handle everything and you simply navigate to the required page? |
| 04:55.07 | JeffM | Mets: it dosn't use your HTTP |
| 04:55.13 | JeffM | it does it's own HTTP on the game port |
| 04:55.19 | JeffM | no other apps are needed |
| 04:56.42 | Mets | ok so in the webadmin case, I would navigate to http://my.ip:5154 or something? |
| 04:56.47 | JeffM | yes |
| 04:56.49 | trepan | in fact, the apache guys looked at the code and might rebase their project on it ;) |
| 04:57.01 | JeffM | that would be a sad day for apache :) |
| 04:57.12 | Mets | that's pretty cool though |
| 04:57.43 | JeffM | Mets: if you HTTP to the root URL it gives you a list of all the HTTP plugins that are installed for that server instance, and the vdirs for each one |
| 04:57.59 | Mets | very cool |
| 04:58.09 | Mets | nice feature guys :) |
| 04:59.08 | JeffM | we'll have to see how usefull it is in the wild |
| 04:59.34 | Mets | are there any extra switches I need to throw at configure to enable http? |
| 04:59.52 | JeffM | 2 things have to happen |
| 05:00.00 | trepan | -pr0n, wasn't it? |
| 05:00.02 | JeffM | 1) you load a plugin that uses the HTTP services |
| 05:00.21 | JeffM | and 2) you have the httpd plugin somewhere in the path that the plugin can then load |
| 05:00.30 | JeffM | plugins loadin plugins :) |
| 05:00.35 | Mets | ahhh |
| 05:00.39 | Mets | I see |
| 05:00.40 | Mets | :) |
| 05:00.49 | TD-Linux | is this the HTTPServer plugin? |
| 05:00.53 | JeffM | yeah |
| 05:00.57 | JeffM | that's the acctual HTTP server |
| 05:01.09 | JeffM | the other plugins implement virtual directorys in that server |
| 05:01.19 | JeffM | the first one loaded will load the HTTPserver |
| 05:01.21 | Mets | ok so first things first, load the http plugin in the conf file |
| 05:01.23 | JeffM | and the others will just use that |
| 05:01.25 | JeffM | nope |
| 05:01.32 | JeffM | you never have to load the HTTPServer manualy |
| 05:01.42 | JeffM | just load the vdir plugins you want |
| 05:01.48 | JeffM | so like webadmin, fastmap, etc... |
| 05:01.59 | JeffM | some of them do want/need templates |
| 05:02.06 | JeffM | like webadmin needs templates |
| 05:02.17 | Mets | I just pointed webadmin to the template folder |
| 05:02.21 | JeffM | k |
| 05:02.27 | JeffM | then thats all it should need |
| 05:02.36 | Mets | /path/to/webadmin/.libs/webadmin.so,/path/to/webadmin/templates |
| 05:03.02 | JeffM | it usualy helps to have HTTPServer.so in the same path as your vdir plugin |
| 05:03.07 | JeffM | or in the bzfs dir |
| 05:03.17 | Mets | mmm yes seg fault :P let's try that |
| 05:05.44 | Mets | nice it works |
| 05:05.47 | Mets | very cool |
| 05:06.09 | Mets | is there a perm though for this? +webadmin? |
| 05:06.15 | JeffM | nope |
| 05:06.22 | JeffM | each template defines the perms it wants |
| 05:06.29 | JeffM | and then it checks based on your login |
| 05:06.44 | JeffM | it should only show you the templates you have perms for |
| 05:07.05 | Mets | ah ok, I tried to login and got "Verified user, but no authorized permission groups found" so I guess I should try another template |
| 05:07.24 | JeffM | you have any groups with perms defined on your server? |
| 05:07.35 | Mets | yeah all set |
| 05:07.54 | JeffM | are you a member of those groups? |
| 05:07.58 | Mets | yes :P |
| 05:08.27 | JeffM | a number of them should have kick, ban etc... |
| 05:09.29 | Mets | yes server groups are setup fine, same as 2.0 server which works fine, 3.0 works fine too |
| 05:09.42 | JeffM | dunno, I haven't used it in ages so I don't know if it still works |
| 05:12.06 | Mets | should I be pointing directly to a template - like /templates/Kicks.page |
| 05:13.19 | JeffM | no |
| 05:13.37 | JeffM | it does not really serve files as pages |
| 05:13.40 | JeffM | ish |
| 05:13.47 | JeffM | just go to the root and follow the links |
| 05:13.54 | JeffM | think of it as a big old CGI |
| 05:14.10 | Mets | adding +webadmin fixed it |
| 05:15.10 | JeffM | who the heck added a perm for it? |
| 05:15.21 | JeffM | that wasn't the point of it |
| 05:15.34 | Mets | not sure, fixed it though |
| 05:15.39 | JeffM | hmmm |
| 05:16.40 | JeffM | the idea was that you got to see whatever actions you had perms for |
| 05:16.47 | JeffM | not one perm for all "admin" stuff |
| 05:17.14 | Mets | mmm yes i can see how that would be a problem if you need a perm to see what perms you have :-/ |
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| 05:17.49 | JeffM | plugins don't need perms |
| 05:17.53 | JeffM | they are not users |
| 05:18.18 | Mets | I gave the dev group perms if you need to test it, I'll keep the server up, can't hurt to have another 3.0 server to crash |
| 05:18.27 | JeffM | I can run one local |
| 05:18.58 | Mets | ok, well it's there if you need it |
| 05:20.51 | JeffM | mostly I need to search history, it's possible there may be some valid reason to do it that way |
| 05:22.16 | Mets | looks like 3.0 will have a hefty set of new features though, nicely done |
| 05:22.31 | Mets | err, nicely almost done I guess |
| 05:22.35 | JeffM | checking the perm for the action is just what the actual game does, so I cant' see how it's any less secure then that system |
| 05:34.14 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: 03Mets 07http://my.bzflag.org * r6543 10/w/Webadmin: /* Usage */ clearing up path to plugin |
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| 05:47.10 | Mets | fastmap doesn't need/have a template? |
| 05:47.15 | JeffM | no |
| 05:47.25 | JeffM | not every one does |
| 05:53.47 | Mets | does it require any other plugin to be loaded by any chance? |
| 05:53.59 | JeffM | it too will load httpserver |
| 05:55.10 | Mets | ah got it, but what does it do? I wants me to download something? |
| 05:55.23 | JeffM | did you read the docs on it? |
| 05:55.55 | Mets | no, I tried the readme but it was just the template plugin readme |
| 05:55.57 | JeffM | it sends you the map |
| 05:56.32 | JeffM | sending the map over HTTP is faster then sending it in game |
| 05:56.45 | Mets | oh it's /saveworld |
| 05:56.47 | JeffM | since the game is limited to sending 1k per lag time |
| 05:56.49 | JeffM | no |
| 05:57.10 | JeffM | this sends you the compressed binary map blob as an HTTP stream |
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| 05:57.26 | JeffM | it is not something that a user would ever use in a browser |
| 05:57.34 | JeffM | it is so that the bzflag client can get the map over http |
| 05:57.44 | JeffM | since that is faster then the in game transfer |
| 05:57.49 | JeffM | it makes large maps download faster |
| 05:57.52 | JeffM | hence it's name, fastmap |
| 05:58.01 | Mets | ah, ok I see |
| 05:58.15 | Mets | thanks for explaining, the readme was just empty |
| 05:58.20 | Janis | wondering if bzflag can get maps from ftp? :) |
| 05:58.22 | JeffM | it automatily sets the map's HTTP URL to the server |
| 05:58.28 | JeffM | Janis: techincaly |
| 05:58.40 | JeffM | if curl supports it, the client should |
| 05:58.58 | Janis | that would be way faster than from http |
| 05:59.05 | Mets | so it really doesn't need to put a link on the top page as a vdir then does it? |
| 05:59.06 | JeffM | possibly |
| 05:59.14 | JeffM | mets every pluign does that |
| 05:59.16 | Mets | if a user can't actually click on it and do anything with it |
| 05:59.19 | JeffM | mostly for debuging |
| 05:59.30 | JeffM | you are welcome to patch it out :) |
| 05:59.46 | JeffM | Janis: you can set up your servers to use FTP if you want |
| 06:00.03 | Mets | if bzflag was written in Java or m-code I would :) |
| 06:00.15 | JeffM | C is not that far off from java |
| 06:01.07 | Mets | I know, I'm sure I could handle it reasonably well, but I'd rather learn C/C++ first before I start causing headaches in source code |
| 06:01.57 | Mets | I managed to avoid a course in C, much to the chagrin of my department head when I told him before graduation :P |
| 06:07.26 | Mets | JeffM: is there a template for the directory of vdirs? |
| 06:07.40 | Mets | or is that built into the code somewhere |
| 06:07.54 | JeffM | well I don't see anything in any of the webmin plugins that look for a webadmin permision |
| 06:08.08 | JeffM | that page is hosted out by the httpserver itself |
| 06:12.14 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r20124 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/ (HTTPServer/HTTPServer.cpp plugin_utils/plugin_HTTP.h): add option for vdirs to hide themselves on the rootpage |
| 06:13.37 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r20125 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/fastmap/fastmap.cpp: hide fastmap on the rootpage |
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| 06:18.19 | Mets | heh, didn't mean to give you work jeff |
| 06:18.28 | Mets | thanks for your help as always |
| 06:21.43 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r20126 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/webadmin/ (pages.cpp pages.h webadmin.sln webadmin.vcproj): remove the last of the most expensive set of comments in the world |
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| 06:23.42 | JeffM | Mets: sure it was only like a few line change |
| 06:23.52 | JeffM | inheritance FTW |
| 06:25.30 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: 03trepan * r20127 10/trunk/bzflag/ (17 files in 7 dirs): |
| 06:25.30 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: * more MsgPause changes (and FIXMEs, i'm being poky) |
| 06:25.30 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: * added the hit obstacle GUID for the ShotInfoStopped and ShotInfoRicochet messages |
| 06:25.33 | JeffM | the fact that you had to add +webauth to your groups really bugs me |
| 06:28.29 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: 03Mets 07http://my.bzflag.org * r6544 10/w/Fastmap: New page: Fastmap is a HTTPD plugin that allows for the transfer of the BZW map file over HTTP instead of sending it through the game client. Sending it through the client is limited to 1kb per lag... |
| 06:28.40 | Mets | I can write in English though :) |
| 06:28.59 | Mets | JeffM: I'll try it again without it, maybe I was on mars or something |
| 06:29.54 | JeffM | that'd help, I forgot my router dosn't like to route requests to it's WAN IP to LAN services, so I can't use webauth on my local server :( |
| 06:33.42 | Mets | hmmm, well now it's letting me log in, what do you know |
| 06:33.52 | Mets | maybe it was listserv or something |
| 06:34.22 | Mets | honest to goodness I tried two callsigns, it wouldn't let either in before |
| 06:34.28 | JeffM | what does your group line look like in your groupdb? |
| 06:35.01 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r20128 10/trunk/bzflag/src/clientbase/LocalPlayer.cxx: use pointers so we don't copy over our zero margin when we have a valid margin, it may become invalid later and we still want to use zero. |
| 06:37.13 | Mets | http://air.bztank.net/groups.txt |
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| 06:38.36 | JeffM | devs should be able to see the main page at least then |
| 06:39.19 | JeffM | what port is the server on? |
| 06:39.25 | Mets | 5150 |
| 06:39.41 | JeffM | what URL? |
| 06:39.54 | Mets | air.bztank.net:5150 |
| 06:40.19 | JeffM | I get in |
| 06:40.54 | Mets | yeah maybe there was some auth error |
| 06:41.04 | Mets | not sure, only thing I did was add +webadmin, then remove +webadmin |
| 06:41.48 | JeffM | dunno |
| 06:41.55 | JeffM | lookit your ban list :) |
| 06:42.42 | Mets | heh, I don't think I banned myself :) |
| 06:43.02 | JeffM | it dosn't say that you did |
| 06:43.06 | JeffM | you were the source |
| 06:43.33 | JeffM | man those templates are fugly |
| 06:43.42 | Mets | lol |
| 06:44.03 | Mets | they work |
| 06:44.12 | JeffM | yeah, that was the idea |
| 06:44.17 | JeffM | just get something to show what could be done |
| 06:44.23 | JeffM | and hope someone else makes them better |
| 06:44.37 | JeffM | it can serve out a CSS file too if it needs to |
| 06:45.46 | JeffM | blast007: you awake? |
| 06:48.21 | JeffM | Bambino: are you awake? |
| 06:48.33 | Bambino | JeffM: yup |
| 06:48.39 | JeffM | are you captain awesome? |
| 06:48.51 | Bambino | my hidden name |
| 06:49.04 | JeffM | not very good at hiding it if you asked for groups with it |
| 06:49.12 | Bambino | :/ |
| 06:49.21 | JeffM | your group names do not all match the same formula |
| 06:49.26 | JeffM | what is the first one for? |
| 06:49.35 | Bambino | all perms |
| 06:49.41 | Bambino | you can delete that post |
| 06:49.42 | JeffM | make it fit the otehrs then |
| 06:49.46 | Bambino | it's not needed |
| 06:49.47 | JeffM | you don't want the groups? |
| 06:49.47 | JeffM | ok |
| 06:49.55 | JeffM | were they made? |
| 06:50.01 | Bambino | IIRC, no |
| 06:50.02 | JeffM | k |
| 06:50.18 | JeffM | it seems blast007 skipped that one and one for stryaer cus someone asked for groups with a [ in em |
| 06:51.02 | Bambino | goes to bed (Do not disturb) |
| 06:51.17 | Bambino | anything else, JeffM? |
| 06:51.25 | JeffM | nope, thanks :) |
| 06:51.28 | Bambino | np |
| 07:00.41 | Mets | think I'm out too, night Jeff, thanks again |
| 07:00.46 | JeffM | see ya |
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| 07:43.05 | cygal | hi. |
| 09:20.37 | delusional_ | build failed.. http://pastebin.bzflag.bz/d51abf27c |
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| 11:37.23 | dexter- | http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=14396 |
| 11:37.25 | dexter- | uh. |
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| 13:01.29 | Nitroxis | Hi. |
| 13:02.39 | Nitroxis | I have a problem with my bzflag. I compiled bzflag from SVN. |
| 13:02.58 | Nitroxis | Im using VC 2008 |
| 13:03.33 | Nitroxis | when i start the compiled exe file i get an error |
| 13:04.22 | Nitroxis | with msvcp90d.dll |
| 13:04.43 | Nitroxis | *msvcp90.dll |
| 13:05.40 | Nitroxis | can anybody help me? |
| 13:15.23 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: 03trepan * r20129 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/webadmin/Makefile.am: * removed the deleted pages.[h|cpp] |
| 13:15.29 | trepan | delusional_: that should do it |
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| 13:25.07 | delusional_ | thats it |
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| 14:35.52 | brad | ~bzflist |
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| 15:33.58 | brad | ~bzflist |
| 15:34.27 | dexter- | bummer lol |
| 15:34.38 | brad | aye |
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| 15:56.33 | Mets | thar ye go fair ibot |
| 15:57.52 | dexter- | .. |
| 15:57.54 | dexter- | ~bzflist |
| 15:58.36 | brad | heh |
| 15:58.52 | brad | its rather tempermental atm |
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| 16:02.38 | randomparticle | hi. global is a bit iffy again |
| 16:02.53 | randomparticle | riker's cup to start in 30 mins |
| 16:03.35 | trepan | recording the matches? |
| 16:03.40 | randomparticle | i don't know |
| 16:03.48 | randomparticle | we can't start it atm though |
| 16:04.03 | Mets | mets game starts in 7 hours |
| 16:04.05 | randomparticle | global is not working |
| 16:04.09 | Mets | :P |
| 16:04.54 | brad | yeah its recorded trepan |
| 16:04.57 | brad | ~bzflist |
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| 16:10.31 | brad | ~bzflist |
| 16:10.55 | brad | hugs server list |
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| 16:15.44 | Bambino | wait, Riker cup is 30 min? |
| 16:15.53 | brad | 15 minutes |
| 16:15.59 | Bambino | Noooooooooooooooooooo! |
| 16:16.04 | Bambino | will be at work |
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| 16:19.05 | delusional_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:20.07 | delusional_ | woop wrong window |
| 16:20.10 | Mets | don't worry you have to guess what server it's on anyway |
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| 16:36.53 | Mets | kicks listserv |
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| 16:38.02 | blast | Mets: that's probably why it's down. You keep kicking it. ;) |
| 16:39.29 | Mets | haha, doh |
| 16:39.50 | Mets | my apologies all |
| 16:40.43 | Bambino | kicks Mets |
| 16:41.24 | randomparticle | riker's cup due to start, but two players can't join because of global |
| 16:41.50 | randomparticle | the moment global lets them in, the match wil begin |
| 16:43.22 | _anomaly_ | one of my servers had a problem with shooting. Players cannot shoot each other. I've had this issue before. Restart, no problem. But one of the players insisted that sk3 had hacked the server. |
| 16:43.28 | _anomaly_ | ever heard of this? |
| 16:43.39 | blast | _anomaly_: a /reset * fixes that |
| 16:43.45 | blast | it's when too many settings are played with |
| 16:43.52 | _anomaly_ | oh, good to know, thanks |
| 16:43.57 | blast | you should also verify that you don't allow poll set |
| 16:44.02 | _anomaly_ | I don't |
| 16:44.06 | blast | good |
| 16:44.12 | blast | sk3 uses that to mess up servers ;) |
| 16:44.16 | _anomaly_ | sk3 wasn't even at this server, I checked the log |
| 16:44.54 | _anomaly_ | the /reset will reset all server vars to default? |
| 16:45.03 | Bambino | not sk3, he _can_ go by a different name |
| 16:45.14 | Bambino | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:45.24 | Bambino | if the vars are in the map file it will be fine |
| 16:45.26 | _anomaly_ | sure, but how could he "hack" the server ? |
| 16:45.41 | _anomaly_ | ah, okay |
| 16:46.14 | _anomaly_ | I understood about the "/reset *" it was just a shortcut |
| 16:46.45 | Bambino | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:46.50 | Bambino | they mess with vars |
| 16:47.01 | Bambino | he like gravity = 0 |
| 16:47.06 | Bambino | likes* |
| 16:47.30 | _anomaly_ | but he can't just change the vars without having some permissions, right? |
| 16:47.41 | Bambino | pollset |
| 16:47.49 | _anomaly_ | okay,thats what I thought |
| 16:47.54 | Bambino | yeah |
| 16:47.55 | Marzipan | that is correct, he can't without a poll, and that would be visible in the logs |
| 16:48.07 | randomparticle | 53 observsers, 20 players at the riker's cup so far |
| 16:48.15 | Marzipan | 53 ? ^^ |
| 16:48.18 | randomparticle | yeah |
| 16:48.18 | Bambino | I have local auth disbled and no poll set in my prms |
| 16:48.18 | Marzipan | need to check in there |
| 16:48.20 | Bambino | yea |
| 16:48.28 | _anomaly_ | since I don't allow pollset then I should be alright |
| 16:48.33 | randomparticle | match starting now |
| 16:48.48 | randomparticle | de.moooo.org:5258 |
| 16:48.50 | _anomaly_ | how do you have local auth disabled? |
| 16:49.08 | _anomaly_ | I don't use a userdb, is that it? |
| 16:49.59 | Bambino | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:50.22 | _anomaly_ | okay, good, I'm not doing any of that |
| 16:50.41 | _anomaly_ | I only use global as far as I know |
| 17:00.44 | delusional_ | global auth has been down for at least 20 minutes |
| 17:01.09 | _anomaly_ | it's back up now |
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| 17:05.55 | blast | http://bzstats.strayer.de/servers/stats/?serverid=29107&lang=en ;D |
| 17:06.18 | blast | _anomaly_: do you allow local registration? |
| 17:06.43 | blast | (in other words, do you have a passdb?) |
| 17:08.44 | _anomaly_ | no I don't |
| 17:08.50 | blast | k, good :) |
| 17:28.08 | blast | delusional_: global auth is a bit slow off and on right now |
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| 17:30.15 | blast | seems like it's really slow right now ;) |
| 17:30.32 | blast | must be the 70 people trying to get on the riker cup |
| 17:31.37 | BulletCatcher | I hope the new authentication system will be able to better handle a load like this. |
| 17:38.46 | blast007 | BulletCatcher: seems like it's also running an rsync right now |
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| 17:39.00 | blast007 | so all the blame can't rest on the current auth system |
| 17:41.30 | BulletCatcher | brlcad: It would help the Riker Cup if the rsync could be suspended for an hour. |
| 17:42.05 | BulletCatcher | Many of the actual players are unable to authenticate. |
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| 17:46.59 | blast007 | JeffM: yeah, guess I did miss those other two groups of groups on the request thread :/ |
| 17:47.18 | JeffM | the [ probably screwed you up :) |
| 17:47.35 | blast007 | silly brackets |
| 17:48.52 | blast007 | also, the StartBZFS application can be built as a .NET 2.0 app if the lines for "using System.Linq;" are removed |
| 17:49.01 | JeffM | ok cool |
| 17:49.14 | JeffM | we don't use that so you can yank it if you want |
| 17:49.22 | blast007 | k, will do when I get home |
| 17:49.55 | blast007 | I tried running the 3.5 version through mono on Windows 2000, and it gave me an error when trying to load the options screen |
| 17:50.11 | JeffM | we care that much about windows 2k? |
| 17:50.17 | blast007 | not really |
| 17:50.25 | blast007 | but since the game itself will still work on 2k.. |
| 17:50.52 | blast007 | at least with proper OpenGL acceleration |
| 17:51.01 | JeffM | .net 2 is better to try simply because more people will have it at install time and we won't have to instal it :) |
| 17:51.08 | blast007 | yeah |
| 17:51.48 | blast007 | wonder if Vista includes that out of the box |
| 17:56.20 | blast007 | it has the 3.0, so would that mean it also has 2.0? |
| 17:56.44 | JeffM | yeah |
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| 18:08.38 | blast007 | I noticed the bottom of the app is a bit jumbled together, but my work computer lags horribly when trying to use design mode, so I'll check on that later :P |
| 18:10.35 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: 03trepan * r20130 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzfs/RecordReplay.cxx: * included MsgPause in savePlayersState() |
| 18:10.42 | trepan | MsgPause should be server-side now, just needs a little clean-up |
| 18:11.06 | JeffM | cooleo |
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| 18:11.28 | trepan | still on for an RC release by the end of the weekend? |
| 18:11.29 | JeffM | blast007: that's the part where I started getting tired of adding features |
| 18:11.33 | trepan | anything else left to do? |
| 18:11.43 | JeffM | trepan: I think so |
| 18:11.51 | trepan | the GM crashes? |
| 18:11.55 | trepan | (or is that already fixed?) |
| 18:11.58 | JeffM | those shoudl be fixed |
| 18:12.11 | JeffM | tho I have heard that thief kills, and haven't looked at that |
| 18:12.38 | JeffM | I am making some tweaks to the stat system now, so we can at least collect push stats |
| 18:12.46 | blast007 | is there still the issue where the client processes the data backwards? |
| 18:12.54 | JeffM | after I see if I can get some free stepper motors :) |
| 18:12.58 | blast007 | I think that's breaking a lot of stuff |
| 18:12.59 | JeffM | blast007: I don't know |
| 18:13.06 | JeffM | I can look |
| 18:13.15 | JeffM | if I can fully wake up |
| 18:13.18 | blast007 | like how two clients see a different shot path |
| 18:14.05 | blast007 | (you send a player update right before shooting, but the receiving client processes that after the shot message) |
| 18:14.05 | JeffM | perhaps we should push for an official BETA before an RC just to get playtesting |
| 18:14.05 | blast007 | well, I'm gussing there |
| 18:14.14 | JeffM | as I think we'll have a number of RCs if we just do it now |
| 18:14.20 | trepan | doesn't matter what you call it ... or if it's 100% |
| 18:14.23 | JeffM | but I do think we should get SOMETHING out there with a big push |
| 18:14.23 | blast007 | I didn't actually check to see if that player update goes after |
| 18:14.25 | JeffM | yeah |
| 18:14.39 | JeffM | "public beta" :) |
| 18:14.41 | blast007 | I'll try to get the installer updated |
| 18:14.45 | JeffM | that works for MMos |
| 18:14.47 | JeffM | ok |
| 18:14.54 | JeffM | I think we are getting closer tho |
| 18:15.12 | blast007 | JeffM: as for your thought of having a different package for the server and the StartBZFS, would it be okay if it installed into a different directory? |
| 18:15.22 | JeffM | sure |
| 18:15.28 | blast007 | ok, then we could do that |
| 18:15.28 | JeffM | bzfs dosn't need stuff from the server |
| 18:15.34 | JeffM | sorry from the client |
| 18:15.47 | JeffM | yeah uninstallers in the same dir would suck :) |
| 18:15.50 | blast007 | I was just worried that uninstalling one would take away a required DLL ;) |
| 18:15.56 | blast007 | (libcurl or whatnot) |
| 18:16.16 | JeffM | we can even release the windows server installer after we ship 3.0 |
| 18:16.30 | Nitroxis | Hi all |
| 18:16.31 | Nitroxis | i have a problem with my self-compiled bzflag. |
| 18:16.31 | Nitroxis | when i start it i'm getting an error that bzflag has a problem (with msvcp90.dll) |
| 18:16.31 | Nitroxis | can anybody help me? |
| 18:16.44 | blast007 | Nitroxis: install the runtime for VC++ |
| 18:16.51 | Nitroxis | ok... |
| 18:17.13 | blast007 | which version are you compiling? |
| 18:18.35 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: 03trepan * r20131 10/trunk/bzflag/src/game/CollisionManager.cxx: |
| 18:18.35 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: * passable meshes can now contain useable link sources |
| 18:18.35 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: (added the link faces even when their container mesh is passable) |
| 18:18.36 | JeffM | where should we have the push stat tracker? on .bz or on another server? |
| 18:18.51 | trepan | that one caught me for a couple of seconds, imagine how long it would take the avg mapper ;) |
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| 18:19.37 | Nitroxis | 2.0.12 i think |
| 18:19.54 | blast007 | why are you building? |
| 18:20.17 | blast007 | 2.0.10 is the newest one for Windows. Version 2.0.12 was just to fix some build issues on linux. |
| 18:20.23 | Nitroxis | no its version 2.0.13 |
| 18:20.35 | Nitroxis | because i cant find it |
| 18:20.39 | blast007 | ? |
| 18:20.44 | Nitroxis | at the web |
| 18:20.48 | Nitroxis | the bins |
| 18:20.51 | JeffM | how did you get it? |
| 18:20.53 | blast007 | you can't go to bzflag.org and click on Download? |
| 18:21.03 | JeffM | yeah we have premade vesions for windows |
| 18:21.11 | JeffM | or are you moding? |
| 18:21.37 | Nitroxis | no im not moding... |
| 18:21.50 | JeffM | then why did the regular version not work for you? |
| 18:22.42 | blast007 | wow.. even the homepage is really slow right now |
| 18:22.54 | JeffM | ok, so not on .bz then :) |
| 18:23.09 | blast007 | hehe |
| 18:23.21 | JeffM | who wants to host it? you or me? |
| 18:23.23 | Nitroxis | at the downloads theres only 2.0.10 for win |
| 18:23.29 | JeffM | that's all you need |
| 18:23.33 | JeffM | that is the latest version for windows |
| 18:23.38 | JeffM | .12 has linux only fixes |
| 18:23.45 | Nitroxis | oh... |
| 18:23.51 | Nitroxis | and .13? |
| 18:23.51 | Marzipan | are you saying a rc release of 3.0 is coming in the next days :D ? |
| 18:23.56 | JeffM | .13 is just what we call the code after we reelased 12 |
| 18:24.09 | Nitroxis | oh... than... |
| 18:24.13 | JeffM | Marzipan: we are trying to get something in public testing very soon |
| 18:24.30 | JeffM | Nitroxis: 10 will work perfectly fine for you |
| 18:24.40 | JeffM | there is nothing 'extra' in higher numbers |
| 18:24.52 | JeffM | its all little tweaks for other OSs |
| 18:24.57 | Think_Differentl | just bug fixes for different operating systems (linux, I believe) |
| 18:25.02 | JeffM | and just part of our development numbering |
| 18:25.14 | Nitroxis | yes ok... |
| 18:25.21 | JeffM | after we release a version, ( it will be even numbered), we make the code be odd |
| 18:25.39 | JeffM | that way we have numbers to use if we develop another veresion in that line |
| 18:25.47 | *** join/#bzflag jcp (n=jw@unaffiliated/javawizard2539) |
| 18:25.49 | JeffM | 2.0.x is dead, we are not planing on making any more versions in that line |
| 18:26.00 | Nitroxis | no but i didn't know that there are only bugfixes for linux... |
| 18:26.01 | JeffM | 3.0.0 will be the next release |
| 18:27.01 | Marzipan | dances around |
| 18:27.09 | JeffM | Nitroxis: the downloads page says specificly that ;) |
| 18:27.15 | Think_Differentl | The current release for Linux and source packages is 2.0.12 |
| 18:27.15 | Think_Differentl | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:27.34 | Nitroxis | oops... -.- |
| 18:28.14 | JeffM | hmmm all the people that controll the domain name are not here :( |
| 18:30.13 | Nitroxis | but why cant i start my compiled version of bzflag. when i start it it says "bzflag has encountered a problem and needs to close." when i click on more informations it says AddName: bzflag.exe AppVer: 0.0.0.0 ModName: msvcp90.dll |
| 18:30.43 | JeffM | well 2.0.x was not designed to be built in visual C++ 2008 |
| 18:30.49 | JeffM | it was made before that existed |
| 18:30.49 | Nitroxis | oh... |
| 18:30.54 | JeffM | so there are lots of things that could happen |
| 18:31.03 | JeffM | also 2.0.x is not the simplest thing to build |
| 18:31.04 | Nitroxis | ok... |
| 18:31.23 | JeffM | we put a lot of work into making 3.0.0 easy to build on the free MS compilers |
| 18:31.33 | JeffM | but we did not do that work back when 2.0.x was done |
| 18:31.35 | Nitroxis | ok thank you! |
| 18:31.46 | JeffM | the release versions fo 2.0.x were all done win VC 2003 |
| 18:32.03 | Nitroxis | i compiled 2.99.X and its pretty cool! |
| 18:34.23 | Marzipan | after all the time finally there will be a release again :D |
| 18:34.36 | JeffM | 5 years |
| 18:35.07 | Marzipan | hopefully the server sided thing will fix the cheating for some time at least :D |
| 18:35.26 | Marzipan | 5 years O.o ? |
| 18:35.29 | Marzipan | already |
| 18:35.29 | JeffM | what "server sided thing" are you talking about? |
| 18:35.55 | Marzipan | well, in 3.0 more things are handled by the server |
| 18:35.59 | JeffM | not many |
| 18:36.02 | JeffM | flag caps |
| 18:36.09 | JeffM | shot types |
| 18:36.14 | JeffM | pause |
| 18:36.18 | JeffM | that may be about it |
| 18:37.22 | Marzipan | and the rest are just changes in the backend... |
| 18:37.44 | JeffM | I'm not sure what you mean by that statement, but ok |
| 18:39.00 | JeffM | where do we store a players token? |
| 18:39.04 | Marzipan | is there already a idea for a next version after this? |
| 18:39.55 | JeffM | my gut says we'll end up with 3.2 pretty fast that is just bug fixes |
| 18:41.22 | JeffM | and by that time the 3.0.0 debian package will be done and posted |
| 18:41.35 | JeffM | and the mac package will be up for a about a week ;) |
| 18:42.12 | Marzipan | hm... will it be the same to build on linux then 2.0.x ? |
| 18:42.29 | JeffM | huh? |
| 18:42.45 | blast007 | Marzipan: same steps, but less external dependencies |
| 18:42.53 | JeffM | get the code, try it and see |
| 18:42.56 | JeffM | we need testers |
| 18:43.23 | Marzipan | mhm... okay |
| 18:46.40 | Marzipan | i can't belive it's been 5 years already i remeber playing 2.0.0 |
| 18:46.57 | JeffM | 3.0 was started at the time of 2.0.4 |
| 18:51.11 | Nitroxis | where can i see all new features of 3.0? the ChangeLog file at svn is empty... |
| 18:51.23 | JeffM | it hasn't been built yet |
| 18:52.41 | Nitroxis | ah i found it: http://my.bzflag.org/w/BZFlag_3.0 |
| 18:52.58 | JeffM | that's not the full list, that's just our info page on it |
| 18:53.05 | Marzipan | stupid question but how do i build something with a make and install file ^^ |
| 18:53.22 | JeffM | Marzipan: depends on the something |
| 18:53.31 | Marzipan | bzflag |
| 18:53.32 | JeffM | if it's bzflag you read the readme |
| 18:53.38 | JeffM | and it tells you the make and isntall steps |
| 18:53.51 | JeffM | its' generaly autogen, configure, make, then make install |
| 19:01.00 | Marzipan | is it normal that autogen takes some time ? |
| 19:01.52 | JeffM | yeah |
| 19:04.10 | *** join/#bzflag bier|tp (n=bier@p54A560CA.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 19:05.49 | JeffM | wonders what he was on when he wrote this crap |
| 19:08.30 | *** join/#bzflag _anomaly_ (n=mike@adsl-70-44-83.gnv.bellsouth.net) |
| 19:14.37 | SpazzyMcGee | JeffM: can you force the client to display fog in 3.0? |
| 19:14.45 | JeffM | dunno |
| 19:15.03 | Marzipan | it still isn't done -.- |
| 19:15.13 | JeffM | how fast is your PC Marzipan ? |
| 19:15.25 | Marzipan | not that slow |
| 19:15.31 | Marzipan | i think it isn't working at all |
| 19:15.58 | Marzipan | so i typed autogen, then it asked me to install autogen so i did that, then i reran the programm and here i m ^^ |
| 19:16.07 | SpazzyMcGee | If it helps: Autogen was failing for me, yesterday - because there was a space in the filepath. |
| 19:16.14 | trepan | SpazzyMcGee: not sure it can be turned off at all |
| 19:16.16 | JeffM | it's autogen.sh |
| 19:16.21 | JeffM | read the readme |
| 19:16.31 | JeffM | what I said was not the exact command line commands |
| 19:16.35 | JeffM | it was an overview |
| 19:16.35 | SpazzyMcGee | trepan: In 2.0 it can be turned off in the effects menu |
| 19:16.41 | trepan | not anymore |
| 19:16.51 | trepan | (which isn't a bad thing, imo ;) |
| 19:16.56 | SpazzyMcGee | I agree |
| 19:16.57 | JeffM | SpazzyMcGee: we don't really care about old hardware people anymore ;) |
| 19:17.13 | SpazzyMcGee | do the localset variables still exist? |
| 19:17.19 | trepan | fogEffect does |
| 19:17.33 | trepan | but it's only used to determine nice/fast fog hinting |
| 19:18.39 | SpazzyMcGee | Was that same variable used to turn off, before? |
| 19:18.47 | trepan | fogEffect |
| 19:18.52 | trepan | heh, yes ;) |
| 19:20.28 | SpazzyMcGee | Fog in certain maps is rendered pointless if you can just turn it off. I had to scrap a radarless forest map, because you could turn off fog and laser the crap out of anyone from a long distance. |
| 19:21.14 | blast007 | Marzipan: "not that slow" is rather subjective ;) |
| 19:21.51 | trepan | blast007: how about, "faster than my old one"? |
| 19:21.58 | blast007 | hehe |
| 19:22.08 | Marzipan | :) i did something wrong |
| 19:22.17 | Marzipan | now it's better :) |
| 19:22.34 | blast007 | k |
| 19:24.35 | JeffM | ok, wins, losses, tks, bzid, token, team, motto, callsign.. anythign else I should send to stats on a per player basis? |
| 19:24.44 | blast007 | favorite color |
| 19:24.45 | trepan | SpazzyMcGee: fwiw, drawInfo's are always enabled now too |
| 19:25.16 | SpazzyMcGee | cool |
| 19:25.20 | trepan | JeffM: length of time connected? |
| 19:25.23 | blast007 | JeffM: why is the token stored? |
| 19:25.33 | trepan | (don't know exactly what the setup is though ...) |
| 19:25.44 | JeffM | yeah time would be good |
| 19:26.00 | JeffM | blast007: to prevent someone from having a server add score updates for you when it's not you ;) |
| 19:26.08 | trepan | also, client version? |
| 19:26.08 | blast007 | ah |
| 19:26.10 | JeffM | I'll have the list store the last token and server |
| 19:26.18 | JeffM | yeah client version.. yeah we need that |
| 19:26.50 | JeffM | blast007: I was worried about another server being able to send updates for a global player if they just had the BZID |
| 19:27.21 | JeffM | so if I keep the token and have the stats server compare it on add with the list, I can know that it really is the same server that authed the token |
| 19:27.23 | blast007 | main problem with the token idea is that I sometimes hop on a second client to review a short replay, so it will overwrite the token in the list server, meaning that any further stats from me will be ignored |
| 19:27.41 | JeffM | that is a possibility |
| 19:27.51 | JeffM | unless you got a better idea |
| 19:28.01 | JeffM | well I'm keeping it on the starts server on add |
| 19:28.14 | JeffM | so when you join the first server, the stats system gets your last token and stores it |
| 19:28.24 | JeffM | with the "current" info for that server |
| 19:28.31 | JeffM | if you join another server, it will have a sepeate join |
| 19:28.37 | JeffM | and then get that token and be cool |
| 19:28.45 | blast007 | yeah, that would work then |
| 19:28.52 | JeffM | the stats server kinda keeps a "session" for you when you play on a server |
| 19:29.38 | JeffM | now your stats in your global record would only be updated for the last server you were a real player on |
| 19:29.44 | blast007 | as for unregistered players, will it just store the ones that are online, and not retain any stats? |
| 19:30.01 | JeffM | I will not keep a 'global' record for non reged |
| 19:30.07 | JeffM | I will keep them in the transaction log |
| 19:30.11 | JeffM | and in the current playing |
| 19:30.21 | JeffM | there is a table for players, and a table for servers |
| 19:30.30 | JeffM | bassicly |
| 19:30.52 | JeffM | tho the server table will involve other tables due to varying player lists |
| 19:31.17 | JeffM | hopes he'll be doing smart quireies to not kill the sql server |
| 19:31.31 | JeffM | it should be pretty atomic and run fast |
| 19:31.49 | blast007 | hard to be worse than what we have now |
| 19:31.59 | blast007 | (a huge hit every 5 to 10 minutes) |
| 19:32.24 | JeffM | yeah |
| 19:32.41 | JeffM | at some point it would be nice to be able to do delta state updates to stat sites |
| 19:32.48 | JeffM | "here is the crap that changed" |
| 19:32.58 | blast007 | yeah |
| 19:33.07 | JeffM | but we can work that out later since that's just web api stuff |
| 19:33.24 | JeffM | a "last changed" time will at least help |
| 19:33.37 | JeffM | then they can list the servers with a last update time, and only update the ones that have data changes |
| 19:33.45 | JeffM | so down to like 10 from 250 |
| 19:35.39 | JeffM | I'm also thinking of paterninig the data access off of the paypal API |
| 19:35.55 | JeffM | and make stat sites "register" to get a set of access credentials |
| 19:36.06 | JeffM | bassicly just lets us link a bzid to a stat site |
| 19:36.17 | JeffM | in case there are problems |
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| 19:43.17 | blast007 | also gives up a point of contact in case we need to change the API |
| 19:43.18 | *** part/#bzflag dexter- (n=Adium@bzflag/player/Dexter) |
| 19:45.09 | blast007 | us* |
| 19:53.15 | Marzipan | building takes kinda long ^^ |
| 19:53.50 | Marzipan | i mean make |
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| 20:03.48 | JeffM | what speed is your computer and how many cores does it have? |
| 20:07.46 | *** join/#bzflag Wyk3d (n=Wyk3d@79.116.94.159) |
| 20:11.38 | Marzipan | and how do i run it if everything is done ? |
| 20:12.01 | JeffM | did you do the make install? |
| 20:12.05 | Marzipan | yes |
| 20:12.15 | JeffM | then run like normal |
| 20:12.36 | Marzipan | well, i never build it myself yet, i just used the packetmanager |
| 20:12.44 | JeffM | just type bzflag |
| 20:13.20 | Marzipan | No fonts found (the -directory option may help) |
| 20:13.31 | JeffM | then you have prefix issues |
| 20:13.40 | JeffM | that I don't know the exact steps to resolve it |
| 20:13.45 | blast007 | or the config file has a path set for the data directory |
| 20:13.50 | blast007 | think it saves it there |
| 20:14.28 | Marzipan | okay... do you know the not so exact steps ? |
| 20:16.13 | blast007 | open your config file ( ~/.bzf/3.0/config.cfg ) and delete the line that starts with: set directory |
| 20:22.43 | Marzipan | hum... |
| 20:26.33 | Marzipan | i can't seem to find a config |
| 20:27.37 | Marzipan | i feel so dumb saying this :P |
| 20:29.50 | JeffM | then it never made one, so it's probably a prefix problem |
| 20:29.55 | JeffM | bassicly it can't find the data dir |
| 20:30.07 | *** join/#bzflag me1 (n=ausom@bzflag/player/Me1) |
| 20:30.31 | Marzipan | yes, and to fix this you need to know at least a bit about coding i guess :) |
| 20:30.46 | Marzipan | if you ain't got a step by step tutorial :P |
| 20:32.13 | JeffM | what distro are you on? |
| 20:32.41 | Marzipan | ubuntu |
| 20:32.48 | Marzipan | 9.0.4 |
| 20:33.08 | JeffM | yeah they moved some of the stuff around from the standard build locations IIRC |
| 20:33.12 | JeffM | well try this |
| 20:33.20 | JeffM | CD into the dir where the bzflag source is |
| 20:33.41 | JeffM | and do ./src/bzflag/bzflag |
| 20:34.30 | Marzipan | i hate to say this, but if i type it in the terminal it says that it isn't found |
| 20:35.11 | JeffM | you sure your build worked with no errors? |
| 20:35.23 | JeffM | and did configure say anything about no bzflag client? |
| 20:35.49 | Marzipan | BZFlag 2.99.40, Build 2009-07-11 |
| 20:35.56 | Marzipan | yep, it worked :) |
| 20:36.05 | JeffM | so you found it? |
| 20:36.10 | Marzipan | nop |
| 20:36.11 | Marzipan | ee |
| 20:36.23 | Marzipan | just the make install and so on worked |
| 20:36.29 | JeffM | then I don't know what you are saying, where did it say that version? |
| 20:36.47 | JeffM | the make may not have built a client |
| 20:36.58 | Marzipan | after make install |
| 20:37.16 | JeffM | where did it put that bzflag client file then? |
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| 20:38.51 | Marzipan | good question |
| 20:39.50 | Marzipan | in /usr/local i think |
| 20:40.18 | JeffM | run that from the bzflag dir then |
| 20:42.44 | Marzipan | i m too dumb for this ... it seems |
| 20:43.03 | _anomaly_ | /usr/local/bin/ may not be in your path |
| 20:43.29 | _anomaly_ | ./configure --prefix=/usr will change the prefix |
| 20:43.52 | Marzipan | but in bin there is only one file that hasn't got anything todo with bz |
| 20:43.52 | JeffM | see there is a solution, I just didn't happen to know it |
| 20:43.58 | _anomaly_ | try ls /usr/local/bin/bzflag |
| 20:44.04 | JeffM | I build on linux so rarely |
| 20:44.21 | _anomaly_ | see if the bzflag binary is in there |
| 20:44.53 | _anomaly_ | ./ configure --help will list all your options and tell you the default build dir |
| 20:45.04 | _anomaly_ | er, i mean install dir |
| 20:45.09 | Yassen | Configure.ac says that there is no OpenGL on my linux system, what package would I have to get? |
| 20:45.30 | CBG | Just run bzflag with the -directory flag like: bzflag -directory /path/to/bzsource/data/ |
| 20:45.38 | JeffM | Yassen: that is a generic message |
| 20:45.47 | Marzipan | that are many options :) |
| 20:45.56 | Marzipan | okay, will try that cbg |
| 20:45.56 | JeffM | do you have the sdl dev packages ? |
| 20:47.08 | _anomaly_ | you can grep the config.log to see if opengl failed to be found |
| 20:48.00 | JeffM | usualy getting the SDL dev packages, also gets you a lot of the other stuff you need |
| 20:48.04 | Marzipan | cbg still the same. |
| 20:48.05 | JeffM | I do that, and the C++ packages |
| 20:48.10 | JeffM | and that usualy gets em all |
| 20:48.25 | JeffM | remember C++ is NOT installed by default on ubunutu only C |
| 20:48.30 | CBG | You're certain you did it correctly? Does the data dir exist? |
| 20:49.53 | Marzipan | actually i m not certain about anything in linux |
| 20:50.07 | Marzipan | but i think i did it right |
| 20:50.33 | _anomaly_ | if you installed in the default dir then bzflag data dir is /usr/local/share/bzflag |
| 20:51.05 | Marzipan | root@Marzipan:/home/markus/bzflag# bzflag -directory /usr/local/share/bzflag |
| 20:51.17 | Marzipan | file not found |
| 20:51.19 | _anomaly_ | why root? |
| 20:51.41 | Marzipan | i needed it to install the packets necessery for bz |
| 20:51.44 | Marzipan | and i didn't exit it yet |
| 20:51.48 | _anomaly_ | ah |
| 20:51.57 | _anomaly_ | are you on ubuntu? |
| 20:52.02 | Marzipan | exactly |
| 20:52.32 | _anomaly_ | sudo -s will get you a root shell |
| 20:52.44 | _anomaly_ | but I wouldn't run bzflag as superuser |
| 20:53.05 | JeffM | blast007: do you know how much of the bzflag dns we have controll over? |
| 20:53.24 | JeffM | or joevano for that matter :) |
| 20:53.38 | Marzipan | so, i still have the same problem and still no solution ^^ |
| 20:54.09 | _anomaly_ | well, if you installed bzflag to /usr/local then it should be there |
| 20:54.22 | CBG | ...like: bzflag -directory /path/to/bzsource/data/ |
| 20:54.42 | CBG | You need the path to the DATA directory. |
| 20:56.49 | Marzipan | bzflag$ bzflag -directory /markus/bzflag/data |
| 20:57.02 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r20132 10/trunk/bzflag/src/ (bzfs/Stats.cxx bzfs/Stats.h game/global.cxx): |
| 20:57.02 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: change the stattrack url to stattrack.bzflag.org/track/ |
| 20:57.02 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: don't send XML for stats, send normal http key value pairs |
| 20:57.02 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: add more data to the stat push |
| 20:57.02 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: compute a crappy 'hash' for the current state to help the stat tracker know if something changed or not. |
| 20:57.02 | Marzipan | *confused* |
| 20:57.49 | _anomaly_ | does bzflag run at all? |
| 20:58.13 | Marzipan | Unexpected: bzflag. Server must go after all options. |
| 20:58.29 | Marzipan | now i get this, when i specifie the fodler were font is in it |
| 20:58.40 | _anomaly_ | have you found where you installed it? |
| 20:58.54 | _anomaly_ | is bzflag in /usr/local/ ? |
| 20:58.59 | Marzipan | yes, i did indeed and i specified the -directory to it, and now i get the above error |
| 20:59.39 | _anomaly_ | what is the bin dir? |
| 20:59.47 | _anomaly_ | /usr/local ? |
| 21:00.14 | Marzipan | the bin dir is markus/bzflag/ |
| 21:00.25 | Marzipan | as far as i can tell |
| 21:00.33 | _anomaly_ | okay, markus/bzflag/bin then? |
| 21:00.51 | Marzipan | that's the path to the source i mean |
| 21:01.01 | Marzipan | i don't know were the bzflag bin exactly is, i will search for it |
| 21:01.09 | _anomaly_ | try bzflag -directory markus/bzflag/data |
| 21:01.21 | Marzipan | i did that |
| 21:01.30 | Marzipan | i specified the exact folder to fonts already |
| 21:01.34 | Marzipan | and then i got this in return: |
| 21:01.48 | Marzipan | Unexpected: bzflag. Server must go after all options. |
| 21:02.21 | _anomaly_ | did you specify markus as the prefix to configure? |
| 21:02.39 | Marzipan | were would i needed to specifie that ? |
| 21:02.43 | Marzipan | sry need |
| 21:02.52 | _anomaly_ | then you must not have done it |
| 21:03.14 | _anomaly_ | but ./configure --prefix=/markus |
| 21:03.15 | Marzipan | well, at first i grabbed the files throw svn |
| 21:03.29 | Marzipan | then i did sh autogen.sh |
| 21:03.40 | Marzipan | then ./configure |
| 21:03.46 | Marzipan | then make |
| 21:03.49 | Marzipan | and then make install |
| 21:03.52 | _anomaly_ | it sounds like the bzflag binary will be in /usr/local/bin then |
| 21:04.07 | _anomaly_ | you used a default prefix |
| 21:04.25 | _anomaly_ | try ls /usr/local/ |
| 21:04.37 | _anomaly_ | see if there is a /usr/local/bzflag |
| 21:04.49 | Marzipan | no there is none |
| 21:05.04 | _anomaly_ | then it must not have installed |
| 21:06.08 | _anomaly_ | if you do a ./configure --help it should tell you the default install is /usr/local |
| 21:06.12 | *** join/#bzflag Upsetter (n=ups@i577B77AD.versanet.de) |
| 21:06.32 | _anomaly_ | I would try to sudo make install-strip |
| 21:06.49 | _anomaly_ | and watch the term |
| 21:07.57 | _anomaly_ | do you have bzflag 2.0 installed? |
| 21:08.15 | Marzipan | yes |
| 21:08.37 | _anomaly_ | are you trying to build 2.99 now? |
| 21:08.53 | Marzipan | exactly |
| 21:09.05 | Marzipan | but i m failing epic it seems :P |
| 21:09.09 | _anomaly_ | but you don't want to replace 2.0 right? |
| 21:09.15 | Marzipan | not really no |
| 21:09.33 | Marzipan | i just want to see 2.99 the current state of development |
| 21:09.42 | _anomaly_ | then you should do a ./configure --prefix=/home/<your user name> |
| 21:09.46 | CBG | I don't see why you're trying to locate the client. You wouldn't get the "No fonts found (the -directory option may help)" error... |
| 21:10.04 | _anomaly_ | that will install the client in your home dir |
| 21:10.07 | Marzipan | well cbg, i specified the exact folder to the fonts |
| 21:10.12 | Marzipan | and they were found |
| 21:10.18 | _anomaly_ | under /home/<user>/bin |
| 21:10.44 | Marzipan | but in return i got this error that bzflag needs all options to run or something |
| 21:11.00 | Marzipan | i will try that then anomaly |
| 21:11.09 | _anomaly_ | can you still run your 2.0 normally? |
| 21:11.32 | Marzipan | without problems |
| 21:12.01 | _anomaly_ | then if bzflag 2.99 is not in /usr/local/bin it didn't install |
| 21:12.25 | _anomaly_ | given that you just did ./configure without options |
| 21:12.41 | Marzipan | i m trying what you told me todo now |
| 21:13.08 | _anomaly_ | you don't need to be root to install |
| 21:13.43 | _anomaly_ | after you do the install phase you should have a /home/<user>/bin and a /home/<user>/share |
| 21:14.11 | _anomaly_ | you may need to run bzflag like: bin/bzflag |
| 21:14.20 | Marzipan | ./configure: line 1850: config.log: Permission denied |
| 21:14.20 | Marzipan | ./configure: line 1860: config.log: Permission denied |
| 21:14.24 | Marzipan | i guess i need to be root |
| 21:14.36 | _anomaly_ | you should change the perms to you |
| 21:14.41 | Marzipan | or do i simple need to set the premissions different for that file |
| 21:15.05 | _anomaly_ | chown -R <user>:<user> * |
| 21:15.07 | Marzipan | i can't edit it, only root can -.- why is that ? |
| 21:15.18 | Marzipan | oh, i see |
| 21:15.22 | _anomaly_ | because you compiled as root |
| 21:15.25 | Marzipan | i grabbed the files as root over svn |
| 21:15.28 | _anomaly_ | sudo chown |
| 21:15.33 | _anomaly_ | i mean |
| 21:15.45 | _anomaly_ | only from the bzflag dir though |
| 21:16.24 | _anomaly_ | any files created during the configure and make will be owned by root |
| 21:16.52 | _anomaly_ | as a rule you should not compile as root, only install and only if you have to |
| 21:17.39 | Marzipan | Operation not permitted |
| 21:18.49 | _anomaly_ | did you sudo chown -R user:user * |
| 21:18.49 | _anomaly_ | replacing user with your user name |
| 21:19.26 | Marzipan | yes now it works |
| 21:19.33 | Marzipan | at least i can edit the premissions now |
| 21:19.43 | _anomaly_ | edit the permissions? |
| 21:19.59 | _anomaly_ | you just changed the user:group to you |
| 21:20.15 | _anomaly_ | you shouldn't have any permissions issues now |
| 21:20.23 | Marzipan | yes that's what i meant sorry |
| 21:20.26 | _anomaly_ | np |
| 21:20.32 | _anomaly_ | are you using gnome? |
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| 21:21.26 | Marzipan | configure: error: expected an absolute directory name for --prefix: home/markus |
| 21:21.37 | _anomaly_ | put the slash in front of home |
| 21:21.40 | Marzipan | ahhh i m totally at the end |
| 21:21.41 | Marzipan | :P |
| 21:21.42 | _anomaly_ | /home/markus |
| 21:22.14 | Marzipan | well this one try and then i will simple let it be for today |
| 21:22.19 | _anomaly_ | lol |
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| 21:22.52 | Marzipan | frustrating... |
| 21:23.43 | Marzipan | well the configure is finished now i do the make |
| 21:23.56 | _anomaly_ | yep, if there were no errors |
| 21:24.18 | _anomaly_ | did it finish saying it would build the client and all? |
| 21:24.22 | Marzipan | no, no errors |
| 21:24.25 | _anomaly_ | good |
| 21:24.51 | Marzipan | no bzflag client binary! (need OpenGL) |
| 21:24.55 | Marzipan | what does that mean ? |
| 21:25.07 | _anomaly_ | have you installed the dev files? |
| 21:25.42 | Marzipan | hm... how do i check that ? |
| 21:26.19 | _anomaly_ | try dpkg -l | grep sdl | awk '{print $2}' |
| 21:26.44 | _anomaly_ | that should print out the list of sdl packages you have installed |
| 21:26.54 | Marzipan | libguichan-sdl-0.8.1-1 |
| 21:26.54 | Marzipan | libsdl-console |
| 21:26.54 | Marzipan | libsdl-gfx1.2-4 |
| 21:26.54 | Marzipan | libsdl-image1.2 |
| 21:26.54 | Marzipan | libsdl-mixer1.2 |
| 21:26.54 | Marzipan | libsdl-net1.2 |
| 21:26.56 | Marzipan | libsdl-pango1 |
| 21:26.58 | Marzipan | libsdl-sound1.2 |
| 21:27.00 | Marzipan | libsdl-ttf2.0-0 |
| 21:27.02 | Marzipan | libsdl1.2debian |
| 21:27.04 | Marzipan | libsdl1.2debian-alsa |
| 21:27.06 | _anomaly_ | no devs |
| 21:27.16 | _anomaly_ | you need the -dev files too |
| 21:27.28 | Marzipan | oh, so i use synaptic now and load the devs too |
| 21:27.32 | _anomaly_ | yes |
| 21:27.54 | _anomaly_ | libsdl1.2debian-dev for instance |
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| 21:30.09 | _anomaly_ | you may need the libgl1-mesa-dev too |
| 21:30.20 | _anomaly_ | that is the openGL dev package |
| 21:30.26 | Marzipan | puh, i got that now i think :) |
| 21:30.30 | _anomaly_ | I mean you WILL need it |
| 21:30.58 | Marzipan | and then simple rerun configure make and make install right ? |
| 21:31.09 | _anomaly_ | libglew1.5-dev is useful too |
| 21:31.16 | _anomaly_ | yep |
| 21:31.33 | _anomaly_ | the hard part is getting all the dev stuff you need |
| 21:33.35 | Marzipan | now i hope for the best |
| 21:33.49 | _anomaly_ | you'll get it. |
| 21:34.25 | Marzipan | BZFlag client .....: yes |
| 21:34.28 | Marzipan | :D |
| 21:34.36 | _anomaly_ | good |
| 21:35.01 | Marzipan | now i will brb# |
| 21:35.16 | _anomaly_ | take your time. . . |
| 21:47.50 | TD-Linux | will modeltool generate drawinfo sections? it seems to have that feature, but it's not getting activated for some reason. |
| 21:51.48 | Marzipan | thanks for the help all :) # |
| 21:52.01 | Marzipan | took some time to sort it out :P |
| 21:52.04 | TD-Linux | time to figure out diconf files :D |
| 21:53.42 | TD-Linux | oh looks simple enough |
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| 22:21.04 | Marzipan | markus@Marzipan:~/bzflag$ bzflag - directory markus/bzflag/data/fonts |
| 22:21.04 | Marzipan | Unknown option -. |
| 22:21.04 | Marzipan | usage: bzflag [-3dfx] [-no3dfx] [-anonymous] [-badwords <filterfile>] [-config <configfile>] [-configdir <config dir name>] [-d | -debug] [-date mm/dd/yyyy] [{-dir | -directory} <data-directory>] [-e | -echo] [-ea | -echoAnsi] [{-g | -geometry} <geometry-spec>] [-h | -help | --help] [-latitude <latitude>] [-longitude <longitude>] [-list <list-server-url>] [-nolist] [-locale <locale>] [-m | -mute] [-motd <motd-url>] [-nomotd] [-mult |
| 22:21.04 | Marzipan | isample] [-solo <num-robots>] [-team {red|green|blue|purple|rogue|observer}] [-time hh:mm:ss] [-notime] [-v | -version | --version] [-view {normal|stereo|stacked|three|anaglyph|interlaced}] [-window] [-zoom <zoom-factor>] [callsign[:password]@]server[:port] |
| 22:21.07 | Marzipan | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:21.09 | Marzipan | Exiting. |
| 22:21.11 | Marzipan | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:21.13 | Marzipan | what does that mean now ? |
| 22:21.24 | Marzipan | nvm |
| 22:21.26 | Marzipan | -.- |
| 22:21.29 | Marzipan | think before writing |
| 22:31.29 | delusional_ | trepan, the manpage section for dynamicColor still mentions "states", but they are long gone. |
| 22:32.55 | delusional_ | could you add a little info too? |
| 22:32.58 | delusional_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:36.29 | kierra | blast007 ping |
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| 22:54.52 | delusional_ | trepan is "alpha" no longer a valid dyncol parameter? |
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| 22:58.01 | trepan | rephrase |
| 22:59.55 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: 03trepan * r20133 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzfs/Stats.cxx: |
| 22:59.55 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: * added the missing .c_str() |
| 22:59.55 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: * fixed a shadowed variable (that would have caused incorrect calcs) |
| 22:59.57 | delusional_ | i cant use alpha with level |
| 23:00.14 | delusional_ | i want to |
| 23:01.00 | delusional_ | it's not red,blue,green/alpha CHANNELS like it used to be |
| 23:01.01 | trepan | from bzw.5: level 3.0 red 0.5 # duration, levelColor (repeatable) |
| 23:01.35 | delusional_ | the second number is alpha? |
| 23:01.39 | delusional_ | 0.5 |
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| 23:02.03 | trepan | delusional_: have you ever specified colors in a bzw file? |
| 23:02.14 | delusional_ | yes |
| 23:02.28 | trepan | so what part of that is different? |
| 23:03.47 | trepan | and how would you mix "level" with the old "alpha" keyword? |
| 23:05.56 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: 03trepan * r20134 10/trunk/bzflag/man/bzw.5.in: * using named colors is apparently confusing |
| 23:06.10 | delusional_ | i gotta make three identical sequences, one each for red,blue,green? |
| 23:06.25 | trepan | no |
| 23:06.49 | trepan | there's no separation of channels anymore |
| 23:07.52 | trepan | (as is absolutely clear from the updated bzw man page) |
| 23:08.15 | trepan | as for your "states" comment ... reread the bzw man page |
| 23:08.18 | trepan | several times |
| 23:09.54 | delusional_ | i liked the man better the way it was |
| 23:23.28 | delusional_ | white |
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| 23:25.08 | joevano | JeffM: I do not know... have only talked to tim about dns |
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| 23:39.54 | trepan | delusional_: the deed is done ;) |
| 23:46.28 | delusional_ | It would be better if the man said "duration, color, alpha" it doesnt say what (repeatable) is |
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