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| 00:09.25 | *** join/#bzflag awilcox (n=awilcox@awos/maintainer/awilcox) |
| 00:10.11 | awilcox | Does BZFlag accept language translations? If you do, is there list of all strings needing to be translated? |
| 00:14.06 | delusional | awilcox http://my.bzflag.org/w/Multilingual_translator |
| 00:14.58 | delusional | heh, that's not actually what i wanted. |
| 00:15.54 | awilcox | LOL, I am hoping to be better than Google. |
| 00:16.07 | delusional | look in "locale" on the gui settings page |
| 00:16.08 | awilcox | Besides, Google Translator does not support cy |
| 00:19.48 | awilcox | delusional: I don't see GUI Settings page on the BZWiki, is there another Web site? |
| 00:20.05 | JefferyM2501 | there is a list of strings |
| 00:20.29 | JefferyM2501 | it's the l10n dir |
| 00:20.31 | delusional | look in your client |
| 00:20.45 | awilcox | JefferyM2501: Okay, thank you very much :) |
| 00:20.50 | JefferyM2501 | the multilingual translator can not be used as it sits |
| 00:20.59 | JefferyM2501 | and it's not the best way of doing it |
| 00:21.50 | JefferyM2501 | what language do you want to use? |
| 00:21.52 | awilcox | I know English, French, very small Spanish, and Welsh. If any of these already exist I will try to improve them, else I will try to make new translations. |
| 00:22.07 | awilcox | I play using English if that is what you are asking. |
| 00:22.20 | JefferyM2501 | french and spanish are already there, done by native speakers |
| 00:22.39 | JefferyM2501 | I don't think anyone cares about welsh, and if they did it could also be done by natives. |
| 00:23.46 | awilcox | Okay, if you would rather me not translate it, I will not. |
| 00:23.55 | JefferyM2501 | you can do what you wish |
| 00:24.09 | JefferyM2501 | I'm just staying I don't think it'll be used ;) |
| 00:26.09 | JefferyM2501 | I mean how fluent are you in it? |
| 00:28.25 | awilcox | Rydw i'n ni'r gwaethaf na gorau. |
| 00:28.36 | JefferyM2501 | yeah and that helps... how? |
| 00:28.52 | awilcox | (I am not the worst nor absolute best) |
| 00:29.38 | JefferyM2501 | if you want to do it, knock yourself out, but as for french and spanish I'd rather keep the ones we have done from the native speakers |
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| 00:31.12 | awilcox | JefferyM2501: Okay, thank you for the pointer for the string list. |
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| 00:33.27 | JefferyM2501 | sure |
| 00:33.35 | JefferyM2501 | I can't say how up to date that list is |
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| 01:06.10 | spldart | I assume that http://pastebin.bzflag.bz/m5dc7f9f1 is more like it for an attempt at building trunk right now? |
| 01:07.11 | Constitution | JefferyM2501: can you add Bulldozer to the developers bzbb group when you get a chance? |
| 01:09.35 | JefferyM2501 | spldart, probably |
| 01:09.46 | JefferyM2501 | Constitution, sure if I can figure out how |
| 01:10.24 | Constitution | don't you own the group? |
| 01:10.26 | spldart | better than the 20+ errors and nearly 50 warnings. I assume |
| 01:10.27 | spldart | hehe |
| 01:11.02 | JefferyM2501 | Constitution, that dosn't mean I reember how to use the phpbb3 group manager |
| 01:11.22 | Constitution | it's in like user cp, manage groups, manage members or something like that |
| 01:11.42 | JefferyM2501 | yeah ti's the "something like that" that I'm having a propblem with ;) |
| 01:11.45 | JefferyM2501 | I'm working on it |
| 01:12.04 | Constitution | I wish I could remember, but it was at least 24 hours ago, which is a long time to remember things |
| 01:12.17 | JefferyM2501 | it's done |
| 01:12.34 | JefferyM2501 | I figured it was "edit memberships" |
| 01:12.36 | JefferyM2501 | but it wasn't |
| 01:12.42 | Constitution | thx |
| 01:12.44 | JefferyM2501 | it was "manage groups" then "manage users" |
| 01:13.14 | Constitution | wasn't some slacker working on a group manager a while ago? |
| 01:13.42 | JefferyM2501 | a couple slackers have tried |
| 01:13.50 | JefferyM2501 | appreanly the concept is slackerbane |
| 01:26.09 | spldart | Heh. |
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| 01:44.01 | delusional | plants slacker-nip |
| 01:48.03 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: 03trepan * r20077 10/trunk/bzflag/src/ (28 files in 3 dirs): |
| 01:48.03 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: * further reduced the number of lualib customizations, current differences are: |
| 01:48.03 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: - compiled as C++ sources (non-standard) |
| 01:48.03 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: - added the __rawset metamethod |
| 01:48.03 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: - added the __usedindex metamethod |
| 01:48.04 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: - added the luaL_checkrawset() function |
| 01:48.08 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: - added the luaL_testudata() function (rumoured to be in lua 5.2) |
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| 02:13.20 | mrapplecomputer1 | Bambino: please tell me why i am suddenly banned on all bzfmaps servers? |
| 02:13.37 | mrapplecomputer1 | Constitution: should i be contacting you too? |
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| 02:13.49 | Bambino | mrapplecomputer1: what's uP? |
| 02:14.08 | mrapplecomputer1 | Bambino: whenever i join a bzfmap server, even though im admin there, im banend |
| 02:14.19 | mrapplecomputer1 | says to contact you |
| 02:14.23 | Bambino | tell me exactly what it says |
| 02:14.26 | Bambino | what |
| 02:14.31 | mrapplecomputer1 | ok |
| 02:14.32 | Bambino | I banned you? |
| 02:14.39 | Bambino | _exactly_ |
| 02:15.10 | mrapplecomputer1 | banned host for: Cheater from this ISP. Contact Bambino if you are caught in this ban. by Constitution |
| 02:15.25 | Bambino | hm |
| 02:15.27 | mrapplecomputer1 | thats _exaclty_ what it says |
| 02:15.30 | Mets | what map? |
| 02:15.31 | Bambino | mn.comcast.com? |
| 02:15.34 | mrapplecomputer1 | all of them |
| 02:15.37 | mrapplecomputer1 | Bambino: yes |
| 02:15.45 | mrapplecomputer1 | .net i think though |
| 02:15.49 | mrapplecomputer1 | meybe not |
| 02:15.50 | Bambino | yeah |
| 02:15.52 | Mets | masterban? |
| 02:15.52 | Bambino | .net |
| 02:15.59 | mrapplecomputer1 | Mets: shhh |
| 02:16.01 | Bambino | Mets: nope |
| 02:16.12 | Mets | mrapplecomputer1: fine |
| 02:16.18 | Bambino | and you're admin, mrapplecomputer1 ? |
| 02:16.19 | mrapplecomputer1 | :) |
| 02:16.27 | mrapplecomputer1 | cop i think , allejo.cop |
| 02:16.32 | Bambino | double check |
| 02:16.37 | Bambino | check the bzbb groups |
| 02:16.39 | mrapplecomputer1 | yes i am cause i get ip lest |
| 02:16.43 | mrapplecomputer1 | ip list * |
| 02:16.47 | Bambino | ok |
| 02:17.03 | Bambino | PM allejo and ask if the .cop group has antiban |
| 02:17.09 | Bambino | if not, ask for whitelist |
| 02:18.34 | mrapplecomputer1 | one sec |
| 02:18.46 | mrapplecomputer1 | but howed i get banned? |
| 02:19.01 | Bambino | he may be using one of my bans from another server |
| 02:19.07 | Bambino | I personally didn't ban you |
| 02:19.33 | mrapplecomputer1 | how do you see your profile? |
| 02:20.38 | Bambino | UCP > Usergroups > then look for allejo.* |
| 02:20.54 | mrapplecomputer1 | aha |
| 02:21.24 | mrapplecomputer1 | thanks |
| 02:21.25 | mrapplecomputer1 | im cop |
| 02:21.27 | mrapplecomputer1 | strange |
| 02:22.55 | mrapplecomputer1 | thanks bam |
| 02:23.29 | Bambino | np :) |
| 02:26.18 | short_circuit | :squint: |
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| 03:06.37 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: 03trepan * r20078 10/trunk/bzflag/MSVC/build/lua.vcproj: * removed lpeg.cxx from the MSVC build |
| 03:46.25 | trepan | fwiw, i tested zlib vs. lzip compression performance on uncompressed binary map data |
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| 03:47.10 | trepan | raw: 4012653 gzip: 3209157 lzip: 1510667 |
| 03:47.21 | Bambino | anyone know who made the map pillbox? |
| 03:47.29 | Bambino | or is it pillbox himself? |
| 03:47.45 | trepan | (using delusional's raptor map) |
| 03:49.08 | trepan | decompression times: gzip 70ms lzip: 247ms |
| 03:49.30 | trepan | compression times aren't that important, imo |
| 03:50.28 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: 03will07c5 * r20079 10/trunk/bzworkbench/ (9 files in 7 dirs): added dialog for changing snap amounts, also added a check box so snapping can be enabled/disabled |
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| 04:01.42 | trepan | bzip2 compresses to 2737361, decompress in 568ms |
| 04:05.00 | BulletCatcher | Bambino: The question of Pillbox authorship was pondered here awhile ago. No one provided a definitive answer. |
| 04:17.39 | Bambino | BulletCatcher: ok, thanks |
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| 14:38.05 | mrapplecomputer1 | hello, jeffm if your there, are you still willing to make my server more munchkinish by helping me with this plugin? thanks http://tonystechhelp.com/SW_Plugin.zip p.s. licensed confirmed by thefish, GNU |
| 14:38.56 | mrapplecomputer1 | and jeffm, if your not here is there someone else that would be willing to make a few changes? |
| 14:41.35 | mrapplecomputer1 | im going to go work on some work so /msg me here or on forums, thanks -mrapple |
| 14:42.24 | mrapplecomputer1 | btw i want the sw to be random whenever a user types /sw, not having to type /sw then a number, and i want there to be a limit, like only 10 shocks per minue or sumthing? thanks. |
| 14:44.48 | cygal | it's unlikely he will help you :) |
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| 14:52.22 | Constitution | you think? |
| 14:52.27 | Constitution | ;) |
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| 15:11.15 | mrapplecomputer1 | anyone else? xD |
| 15:19.01 | mrapplecomputer1 | *sighs* ill take that as a no. |
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| 15:23.36 | brlcad | probably a good guess |
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| 15:36.07 | SpazzyMcGee | mrapplecomputer: sort out your IRC client, it keeps parting and joining |
| 15:36.56 | Marzipan | SpazzyMcGee: you are sure it's his client ? |
| 15:37.41 | SpazzyMcGee | true |
| 15:38.11 | Marzipan | could be just him closing and reopening it :) |
| 15:38.27 | spldart | Standing in the far corner of that one room to steal the neighbors internet are we? j/k ;) |
| 16:03.23 | Constitution | if Jeff were here, he would say to stop discussing illegal activities ;) |
| 16:11.43 | spldart | Indeed. |
| 16:11.48 | spldart | does a little dance illegal illegal illegal illegal. :) |
| 16:14.22 | Constitution | was ready to say speak of the... and shall he not... but was not so lucky |
| 16:21.06 | mrapplecomputer1 | haha lol thanks guys xD |
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| 16:43.20 | mrapplecomputer1 | finnaly my linux server is workin!! thank you war_pig |
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| 17:46.23 | cygal | Erroneous: how is going the midterm evaluation? |
| 17:46.30 | cygal | anything to say concerning my work? |
| 17:49.53 | Marzipan | cygal: whatmidtern evaluation ? |
| 17:50.22 | Marzipan | *midterm |
| 17:50.25 | JefferyM | for the summer of code |
| 17:50.31 | JefferyM | he is a student |
| 17:50.48 | Marzipan | i see, thanks Jeff |
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| 18:00.57 | mrapplecomputer1 | JefferyM: are you still willing to help me with that plugin? |
| 18:01.28 | mrapplecomputer1 | crosses legs, fingers, and armrs |
| 18:01.30 | JefferyM | I do not know |
| 18:02.20 | mrapplecomputer1 | ok |
| 18:02.36 | Bambino_ | mrapplecomputer1: you'd have much better luck asking flying_popcorn |
| 18:02.53 | Marzipan | just wanted to say that too :) |
| 18:02.57 | mrapplecomputer1 | Bambino_: but jeff seems so much smarter |
| 18:03.04 | Bambino | he is |
| 18:03.13 | mrapplecomputer1 | is trying to get on jeffs good side |
| 18:03.23 | Bambino | then become a dev |
| 18:03.26 | Marzipan | mrapplecomputer1: it isnÃt about smartness or anything else, it's just a thing about motivation and so on i think... ^^ |
| 18:03.39 | mrapplecomputer1 | Marzipan: ok |
| 18:03.40 | Bambino | and make bzflag 3.0.0 all by your self |
| 18:04.12 | Marzipan | that's mean ^^ ... |
| 18:04.30 | mrapplecomputer1 | JefferyM: if you dont want to i think me and war pig figured it out |
| 18:04.37 | JefferyM | well he's just a pumpkin eater, listening to him isn't the best idea |
| 18:04.54 | JefferyM | mrapplecomputer1, at this exact time I have no time to help you with anything |
| 18:05.11 | JefferyM | it's not a hard plugin to make, but personaly I think it's a silly idea |
| 18:05.17 | mrapplecomputer1 | JefferyM: ok |
| 18:05.28 | Marzipan | what's the idea ? |
| 18:05.29 | JefferyM | I know for a fact I will not help you modify that unlicensed plugin code you pasted |
| 18:06.03 | mrapplecomputer1 | JefferyM: it is licenesed |
| 18:06.15 | JefferyM | the code you showed me was not |
| 18:07.42 | mrapplecomputer1 | i confirmed with the fish it was licenesed and asked him to add it: http://pastebin.com/d8868fbf |
| 18:08.13 | JefferyM | it really should have a copyright |
| 18:08.47 | JefferyM | but for what you need you don't need his base |
| 18:09.01 | JefferyM | you just need a / command and a few calls to rand |
| 18:09.10 | mrapplecomputer1 | JefferyM: i think me and warpig have this figured out |
| 18:09.15 | JefferyM | good |
| 18:09.18 | _WarPig_ | lol |
| 18:09.39 | _WarPig_ | if(command=="sw") |
| 18:09.39 | _WarPig_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:09.39 | _WarPig_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:09.40 | _WarPig_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:09.40 | _WarPig_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:09.40 | _WarPig_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:09.42 | _WarPig_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:09.51 | _WarPig_ | ? |
| 18:09.54 | JefferyM | ish |
| 18:09.59 | JefferyM | that is just for one axis |
| 18:10.03 | CBG | mrapplecomputer1: ping |
| 18:10.03 | JefferyM | and pastebin for long things please |
| 18:10.14 | _WarPig_ | k - sry |
| 18:10.29 | mrapplecomputer1 | isnt warpig smart? xD |
| 18:10.46 | _WarPig_ | lol |
| 18:10.58 | mrapplecomputer1 | hugs _WarPig_ |
| 18:11.03 | _WarPig_ | eww |
| 18:11.09 | mrapplecomputer1 | haha :P |
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| 18:19.50 | mrapplecomputer1 | JefferyM: i think we got it! http://pastebin.com/m7c499139 i only want them on the ground too. so the 1 axis doesnt matter |
| 18:19.52 | mrapplecomputer1 | thanks all |
| 18:20.08 | mrapplecomputer1 | looks up compilling on the wiki |
| 18:20.11 | mrapplecomputer1 | ok bye! |
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| 18:26.32 | JefferyM | hope he knows that there are 3 axes ;) |
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| 18:29.02 | mrapplecomputer1 | is calling all plugin experts. question: how to compile on a mac? :) i get error 1 |
| 18:29.11 | Bambino | mrapplecomputer1: can't you just keep your client open? |
| 18:29.25 | mrapplecomputer1 | Bambino: its hard with a laptop and limited battery :) |
| 18:29.37 | Bambino | plug it in... |
| 18:29.49 | mrapplecomputer1 | i dont have a power cord *cuts power cord* its broken |
| 18:30.27 | Bambino | ok.. |
| 18:30.54 | mrapplecomputer1 | ok its plugged in now. ill try to leave it open, no promises though. |
| 18:37.43 | _WarPig_ | OK - new version: http://pastebin.com/m49a5439a Am I on the right track? |
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| 18:41.36 | kierra | brlcad ping |
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| 18:43.39 | Bambino | grrr no badword list |
| 18:43.56 | Bambino | oh, ignore that, wrong channel |
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| 18:56.53 | Will07c5 | well I was going to start optimization today but I just realized the GUI doesn't have the ability to actually assign materials to objects heh |
| 18:57.14 | Will07c5 | so I'll get that working and start optimization tomorrow |
| 19:00.53 | mrapplecomputer1 | can someone please compile what _warPig_ posted into a .so? |
| 19:01.21 | _WarPig_ | You will generally need to compile on the machine that is to run the plugin. |
| 19:02.13 | brlcad | mrapplecomputer1: stop asking for others to do work for you |
| 19:02.38 | mrapplecomputer1 | brlcad: i asked how to compile a plugin also. i got error 1. ideas? |
| 19:03.40 | Thumper_ | mrapplecomputer1: read the actual error message and not the return status -- that might help give you some idea of what is wrong |
| 19:04.07 | brlcad | mrapplecomputer1: the point is for you to put forth your own effort and try (so try harder), not continually ask others for help or (worse) ask others to do it for you |
| 19:04.15 | _WarPig_ | Error 1: WarPig is an Idiot. |
| 19:04.37 | _WarPig_ | saves everyonme else the trouble :) |
| 19:04.38 | mrapplecomputer1 | _WarPig_: haha lol |
| 19:05.21 | mrapplecomputer1 | i *think* i know how to compile. |
| 19:05.30 | mrapplecomputer1 | i took the sample plugin dir, cd, then make |
| 19:05.49 | mrapplecomputer1 | i replaced the code in SAMPLE_PLUGIN.cpp with my/warpigs code |
| 19:06.44 | mrapplecomputer1 | heres what it returns http://pastebin.com/d117785c4 |
| 19:06.58 | brlcad | and then you got an error, no surprise there -- you apparently did something wrong, so try harder, recheck your code, read the error it's telling you (don't tell me, read it) |
| 19:07.29 | _WarPig_ | lol |
| 19:07.39 | mrapplecomputer1 | ok........ |
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| 19:08.04 | _WarPig_ | mrapplecomputer1: did you see the revised version? |
| 19:08.09 | mrapplecomputer1 | no |
| 19:08.24 | mrapplecomputer1 | ill try that |
| 19:08.25 | _WarPig_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:08.30 | brlcad | read the (various) errors, put the error into google, read up on what that error means, read the code to see if you can see how it relates to that error, work with wp on a fix |
| 19:09.11 | mrapplecomputer1 | more errors on revised version |
| 19:09.18 | _WarPig_ | lol |
| 19:09.36 | mrapplecomputer1 | http://pastebin.com/d3ae6a766 |
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| 19:29.18 | Erroneous | cygal: your work has looked good. I haven't looked at the eval form yet. I'd like to talk to you first (but not today, just got out of one meeting, need to grab lunch and then to another meeting...). |
| 19:31.01 | Erroneous | I do review your checkins, and you'd hear about it if I was unhappy with anything ;) |
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| 19:55.08 | cygal | Erroneous: ok, sure :) |
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| 21:04.00 | spldart | Something got brokeded |
| 21:04.34 | spldart | http://pastebin.bzflag.bz/m240375f2 |
| 21:05.11 | trepan | try autogen.sh, ... ? |
| 21:05.15 | JefferyM | you redo autogen? |
| 21:05.36 | spldart | yeah |
| 21:06.18 | spldart | svn up, make distclean, ./autogen ,configure.. lemme try again |
| 21:06.55 | spldart | yup... arrow up 3 times.. there is the autogen |
| 21:06.58 | spldart | running |
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| 21:10.56 | spldart | same result... trying another machine |
| 21:11.31 | spldart | slower machine |
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| 21:18.17 | _WarPig_ | spldart: Blows up for me in a similar way |
| 21:18.44 | spldart | ah.. I'm in the nice make phase on the slower machine and waiting for it. |
| 21:19.43 | _WarPig_ | spldart: s/similar/identical/ |
| 21:20.00 | spldart | :) |
| 21:20.40 | randomparticle | ok |
| 21:20.42 | spldart | I assume your last build was totally succesful... these two machines last builds were. |
| 21:21.00 | randomparticle | tick tock |
| 21:21.10 | trepan | spldart: trying a fresh checkout/build here as well |
| 21:21.11 | spldart | Well... as totally as head code can be... |
| 21:21.14 | spldart | tick tock? |
| 21:21.21 | trepan | so randomparticle has a problem with his code not work |
| 21:21.24 | trepan | *working |
| 21:21.31 | randomparticle | it was working in 2.99 |
| 21:21.37 | randomparticle | it is still working in 2.0.x |
| 21:21.37 | trepan | PM's me, hopes that i can fix it |
| 21:21.48 | randomparticle | who added the fvec3 stuff? |
| 21:21.52 | trepan | i did |
| 21:22.20 | randomparticle | is it ok just to index in to get the x, y, z? e.g., like this p[0] rather than p.x? |
| 21:22.25 | _WarPig_ | ...and on that note, I'm going to go burn some meat on the grill, enjoy a nice Newcastle Brown, and wait for the devs to work it out. |
| 21:22.26 | spldart | seems like everything went to poop when make was in the ares curl region. |
| 21:22.30 | trepan | randomparticle: yes |
| 21:22.48 | trepan | but the .x / .y / .z form is preferred |
| 21:22.53 | spldart | Hope the grill goes good for yah warpig |
| 21:23.04 | randomparticle | my code is very similar in style to the rayAtDistanceFromOrigin code |
| 21:23.08 | spldart | Hrm... I need to grill some hot dogs soon.. haven't done that in a while |
| 21:23.35 | randomparticle | maybe am overlooking something obvious here |
| 21:23.49 | randomparticle | you know why the hitzone code doesn't work? |
| 21:23.52 | JefferyM | is the problem in your code just accessing the vectors? |
| 21:23.57 | randomparticle | could be |
| 21:24.09 | randomparticle | but looks so similar to the one mentioned above |
| 21:24.20 | JefferyM | or do you actualy want to discuss the problem that you are trying to solve with trepan like I sugested ;) |
| 21:24.29 | trepan | pointed him back here |
| 21:24.31 | randomparticle | trepan didn't want to discuss it |
| 21:24.35 | JefferyM | ahh |
| 21:24.41 | trepan | no, i pointed you back here |
| 21:24.44 | JefferyM | heh |
| 21:24.50 | trepan | better quiet then wrong ;) |
| 21:25.05 | JefferyM | heh |
| 21:25.06 | trepan | works for me |
| 21:25.38 | JefferyM | I am more interested in him going over what parts of the math he feels is wrong and why, rather then his exact code |
| 21:25.55 | JefferyM | yet he seems stuck on his specific implementatiion of something he won't exlain |
| 21:26.09 | trepan | i haven't been following his issue at all |
| 21:26.19 | JefferyM | I know, that's why I want him to go over it from the top |
| 21:26.32 | JefferyM | rather then having him keep comin in the middle of a convo noone has followed. |
| 21:26.44 | JefferyM | I don't mind seeing what he has to say, he just has to friggin say it |
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| 21:27.16 | randomparticle | i would appreciate it if you were a little more fixated on getting stuff done than arguing |
| 21:27.45 | JefferyM | problems have to be understood before they are fixed |
| 21:27.48 | JefferyM | that's all |
| 21:27.51 | trepan | randomparticle: what's broken? |
| 21:27.58 | trepan | you have given me nothing to work with, NOTHING |
| 21:28.04 | trepan | does it compile? |
| 21:28.14 | randomparticle | the original hitzone calc is broken |
| 21:28.22 | randomparticle | my fix cured it in 2.99 back in feb |
| 21:28.27 | trepan | and where's your code? |
| 21:28.29 | trepan | pastebin a diff |
| 21:28.57 | randomparticle | it's in the forum |
| 21:29.12 | trepan | pastebin a diff, i see no diff file on the forum |
| 21:29.13 | JefferyM | then it should be easy to pastebin |
| 21:29.19 | trepan | diff -uwpr > fix.diff |
| 21:29.24 | trepan | (or equivalent) |
| 21:29.35 | randomparticle | i have to make clean etc first |
| 21:29.43 | randomparticle | you don't want all the other changes |
| 21:30.00 | trepan | 'make clean' should have no effect on a diff |
| 21:30.07 | randomparticle | sigh |
| 21:30.14 | trepan | svn diff > rp.diff (that's probably what I should have said first ;-) |
| 21:30.32 | randomparticle | i can't be bothered anymore. you just wanna argue |
| 21:30.35 | trepan | but ya, i'll even take it with the other changes |
| 21:30.36 | randomparticle | am fed up with it |
| 21:30.39 | randomparticle | solve it yourself |
| 21:31.00 | JefferyM | ohhhhkayyy then.... |
| 21:31.12 | trepan | you want help fix |
| 21:31.19 | randomparticle | *did* |
| 21:31.24 | trepan | *fixing code, and don't even provide a basic diff |
| 21:31.38 | randomparticle | the code is out there |
| 21:31.41 | JefferyM | randomparticle, please understand that not everyone has followed the issue like you have |
| 21:31.46 | randomparticle | even now you can't stop arguing |
| 21:31.49 | randomparticle | it's pathetic |
| 21:31.57 | trepan | ok ..... |
| 21:32.02 | randomparticle | no wonder you lose so many devs and can't finish bz 3.0 |
| 21:32.07 | trepan | pastebin the diff when you have it, and we'll take a look |
| 21:32.10 | trepan | that's all, simple |
| 21:32.16 | randomparticle | you're reputation is trash out there. you probably don't realize that |
| 21:32.19 | JefferyM | ok, that's enough, we are trying to help, but you arn't putting a lot out there to help with |
| 21:32.23 | JefferyM | you can stop now |
| 21:32.36 | JefferyM | if you are fed up with it, fine, don't work on it |
| 21:32.36 | bryjen | he's not argueing now. he even said he didn't mind if there were unrelated changes in the diff |
| 21:32.43 | trepan | randomparticle: the project's rep? :) |
| 21:33.16 | randomparticle | i can cut and paste it quick. you don't really need a full diff |
| 21:33.23 | JefferyM | there is no need to be mean, people are just trying to understand what you are talking about |
| 21:33.34 | randomparticle | it's a new function and one changed function call. that's all it is |
| 21:33.54 | randomparticle | it's not lots of little tiny intermingled changes |
| 21:34.02 | JefferyM | that's better then nothing, or making people find code on the fourms. |
| 21:35.07 | randomparticle | in Intersect.cxx: http://bzflag.pastebin.ca/1488869 |
| 21:35.14 | randomparticle | new function |
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| 21:35.28 | randomparticle | prototype to match in Intersect.h |
| 21:36.12 | randomparticle | and then in SegmentedShotStrategy.cxx: t = Intersect::timeRayHitsCylinder(relativeRay, tank.radius, tankHeight); |
| 21:36.27 | randomparticle | that replaces the call to rayAtDistanceFromOrigin |
| 21:36.31 | randomparticle | brb |
| 21:36.45 | trepan | or just paste a goddamn diff |
| 21:36.48 | trepan | idiot |
| 21:37.00 | trepan | feels a little better :) |
| 21:37.14 | JefferyM | I think he's trying to say that's he's replacing a funciton call |
| 21:37.20 | JefferyM | so that there is no real diff |
| 21:37.27 | JefferyM | he just can't communicate for crap it seems |
| 21:37.32 | trepan | or course there's a diff |
| 21:37.39 | trepan | instead of having me edit 3 files |
| 21:37.40 | JefferyM | yeah it'll show both functions |
| 21:37.42 | JefferyM | yeah |
| 21:38.06 | JefferyM | my problem is he can't even explain why the old function is "broken" |
| 21:38.14 | JefferyM | and he never stays long enough to say anything |
| 21:38.47 | trepan | hm, both his and the old don't appear to use the shotRadius |
| 21:38.50 | trepan | that seems wrong |
| 21:38.53 | bryjen | suspects "his way is better", like his explanation is "better" than a diff |
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| 21:39.09 | randomparticle | back |
| 21:39.13 | JefferyM | we can see :) |
| 21:39.17 | randomparticle | ok :) |
| 21:39.36 | JefferyM | shouldn't the shot radius be used in the ray test? |
| 21:39.47 | randomparticle | it didn't used to be |
| 21:39.54 | randomparticle | was considered as a point |
| 21:39.56 | JefferyM | who cares about what it used to do :) |
| 21:40.01 | randomparticle | ok |
| 21:40.02 | JefferyM | we care about making 3.0 better |
| 21:40.14 | randomparticle | might be a good idea |
| 21:40.24 | randomparticle | as it stands, even a map-sized shot doesn't necessarily kill :) |
| 21:40.57 | JefferyM | and can you explain in simple english what you saw that was "broken" in the origonal function? |
| 21:41.02 | randomparticle | sure |
| 21:41.15 | randomparticle | i'll have brb for 5 mins at any moment. but here goes |
| 21:41.32 | JefferyM | perhaps you should wait untill you have time to discuss it in full then? |
| 21:41.41 | JefferyM | leaving and coming back is a bit hard to follow |
| 21:41.44 | randomparticle | ok |
| 21:41.55 | JefferyM | and we are talking about some tricky parts of the code |
| 21:42.03 | randomparticle | can quickly say this, though: |
| 21:42.04 | JefferyM | it may also help keep some tempers down as well |
| 21:42.16 | randomparticle | there are two major tests in checkHit |
| 21:42.34 | randomparticle | one for a block hit and one for a sphere hit |
| 21:42.55 | randomparticle | take the intersection of such a block and sphere and you'd get the clipped sphere |
| 21:43.01 | JefferyM | sure |
| 21:43.13 | randomparticle | the sphere test is actually fine |
| 21:43.34 | randomparticle | but the block test only tests for necessary conditions, not sufficient and necessary |
| 21:43.49 | randomparticle | and it doesn't check the time of impact |
| 21:44.21 | JefferyM | what do you mean by "but the block test only tests for necessary conditions, not sufficient and necessary"? |
| 21:44.39 | JefferyM | I'm not a math wiz, I'm just trying to understand what you are saying |
| 21:44.40 | randomparticle | the test must be true if a block hit occurred |
| 21:44.56 | JefferyM | I thought the block hit was just to clip the Z |
| 21:45.52 | randomparticle | that's what it would do if both sufficient and necessary conditions were satisfied |
| 21:46.30 | randomparticle | it's a bit strange in any case because *all* hits occur on the sphere's surface |
| 21:46.43 | randomparticle | but if you clip Z that means there are gaps in the surface where no hit can occur |
| 21:47.04 | randomparticle | because the code doesn't allow for anything but a sphere impact point |
| 21:48.00 | JefferyM | the first thing it does looks like the bbox check, and that looks to be an easy out, so bassicly if the shot goes above or below, don't do the sphre test |
| 21:48.08 | randomparticle | yeah |
| 21:48.20 | JefferyM | if it passes the box test, we know it's in the part of the sphere that is inside the max and min z |
| 21:48.25 | randomparticle | it's a low cost test first, then the complicated one if necessary |
| 21:48.25 | JefferyM | so a sphere test should be fine |
| 21:48.44 | JefferyM | you'll just never get input to that test if it's outside the box |
| 21:48.57 | randomparticle | grr.. to be continued.. :) |
| 21:49.03 | randomparticle | back in a few mins. sorry |
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| 21:51.38 | JefferyM | hmmm I may not be thinking of this in terms of shots with a Z movemenet component |
| 21:51.45 | bryjen | is the boxed volume smaller than the sphere? is that what he's complaining about? the initial box test rules out some points that are on the sphere? |
| 21:51.48 | trepan | in essence, !s.bbox.touches(tankBBox) isn't expanded to the tank.radius used with rayAtDistanceFromOrigin |
| 21:52.12 | JefferyM | yeah, I think that's the jist of it |
| 21:52.34 | JefferyM | bryjen, I think the problem is they are IN the sphere |
| 21:53.08 | JefferyM | does anyone think we need a sphere test for tanks? or would a cylinder just be fine? |
| 21:53.20 | trepan | the easy fix: tankBBox.addMargin(tank.radius); |
| 21:53.42 | JefferyM | will that make the hit area extend "below" the tank? |
| 21:53.47 | trepan | JefferyM: and here i was planning even fancier tests, swept sphere boxes, rectangles, or meshes ;-) |
| 21:54.05 | JefferyM | I knew you were planning stuff, that's why I wanted him to discuss it |
| 21:54.23 | JefferyM | if you are planing on doing that then this is all moot |
| 21:54.39 | trepan | i probably won't get to it by the weekend |
| 21:54.39 | JefferyM | I just wanted to make sure that whatever we do does adress what he's talking about |
| 21:54.43 | trepan | been busy ... |
| 21:55.00 | JefferyM | do you think we should make a change here for now, just to have something a little cleaner in case we don't get to better tests? |
| 21:55.45 | trepan | sure, just adding that extra margin should be safe |
| 21:56.16 | JefferyM | that won't make the hit zone extend out the bottom of the tank and be hittable if the tank is on a thin box? |
| 21:56.26 | JefferyM | that's what I'm worried about |
| 21:56.36 | trepan | ah, that's a separate issue |
| 21:56.45 | bryjen | the tank is mostly rectangular, is a box not good enough? why bother with a sphere? |
| 21:56.59 | JefferyM | thats why I think doing the sphere test as just XY makes it a cylunder and we still get that flat bottom |
| 21:57.23 | JefferyM | bryjen, I think getting the actual hit point on a box is/was harder then a sphere. |
| 21:57.43 | trepan | just remove the 'if (tank.test2D) {' clause, and always use a box |
| 21:57.54 | trepan | was thinking about doing that way back in the 2.0 days |
| 21:58.11 | JefferyM | I think that would be something worth playtesting |
| 21:58.18 | JefferyM | I'll make that change and we can try it out |
| 21:58.26 | trepan | but, it would be better to use a swept sphere box, from a visual coherence standpoint ;) |
| 21:58.30 | JefferyM | hitzone in XY will be a little smaller, may mask lag a bit more |
| 21:58.37 | trepan | (not that anything else in bz used the shotRadius all that well) |
| 21:58.42 | JefferyM | heh |
| 21:59.11 | JefferyM | well it sounds like this is a simple enough change that can be better then what we have now untill it gets a lot better |
| 21:59.41 | JefferyM | wonders what normaly triggers test2D |
| 21:59.48 | trepan | Narrow, iirc |
| 21:59.50 | JefferyM | ahh, narrow |
| 21:59.51 | JefferyM | yeah |
| 22:00.19 | trepan | in LocalPlayer.cxx: collider.test2D = (this->getFlag() == Flags::Narrow); |
| 22:00.35 | JefferyM | yeah it just showed in a search |
| 22:00.50 | JefferyM | guess I'll have to see if windows builds now :) |
| 22:02.13 | JefferyM | yay, I can build managed 64 bit code again :) |
| 22:02.23 | trepan | in case i hadn't mentionned it, a tight box is a fairly significant change |
| 22:02.25 | trepan | http://trepan.bzflag.bz/tanksphere.jpg |
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| 22:02.32 | randomparticle | the thing about the bbox test (the important one), is that it's not a tank box, but a tank motion box |
| 22:02.53 | randomparticle | imagine a tank box around the tank at each point along the path |
| 22:03.01 | randomparticle | the motion box is a box around all those boxes |
| 22:03.08 | JefferyM | trepan, where is the normal box part, aroudn the middle 2 lines? |
| 22:03.17 | JefferyM | randomparticle, we were actualy discussing it while you were out. |
| 22:03.27 | randomparticle | so it can be higher than a tank if there is vertical motion. and that means the sphere isn't necessarily clipped to tank height |
| 22:03.31 | randomparticle | ok |
| 22:03.45 | randomparticle | fingers were restless, so i typed a few words :) |
| 22:03.51 | JefferyM | I can see |
| 22:03.57 | trepan | JefferyM: normal box part? |
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| 22:04.03 | JefferyM | the Z of the BBox |
| 22:04.13 | trepan | to the top of the tank |
| 22:04.16 | JefferyM | ok |
| 22:04.27 | JefferyM | so yeah we'd loose some side area with a tight box |
| 22:04.38 | trepan | and a lot both above and below |
| 22:04.39 | JefferyM | it extends out to the barrel right? |
| 22:04.52 | trepan | nope, just to the front |
| 22:05.08 | randomparticle | the bit above is really important, please |
| 22:05.09 | JefferyM | well I think the intent was to not call a shot that goes over the top of the tank a "hit" |
| 22:05.18 | JefferyM | so I'm less concerend about the above and below |
| 22:05.47 | JefferyM | randomparticle, importnat that it be a hit or not a hit? |
| 22:05.57 | randomparticle | yeah. the box can be far higher than a tank |
| 22:06.10 | randomparticle | and the lower the framerate, the higher it can be |
| 22:06.20 | trepan | important the bbox is based on positions, and not tank dimensions |
| 22:06.35 | randomparticle | yeah, it's a motion box |
| 22:06.37 | JefferyM | I'll just wait till my question gets answered |
| 22:06.38 | trepan | bbox should probably have the tank dimensions added to it in LocalPlayer.cxx |
| 22:06.48 | randomparticle | BaseLocalPlayer.cxx |
| 22:07.00 | randomparticle | those dimensions are already added |
| 22:07.24 | randomparticle | or rather, some are. depends on which you prefer |
| 22:07.24 | trepan | hm, ya, they are |
| 22:07.28 | trepan | so what's the problem? |
| 22:07.40 | randomparticle | imagine a single point in time |
| 22:07.52 | randomparticle | so you've got that box, do the test, clip the sphere, perfect |
| 22:08.04 | randomparticle | but now, over an frame interval |
| 22:08.18 | randomparticle | the box includes every tank box for the motino in that interval |
| 22:08.29 | randomparticle | it's like stretching a tank box over the interval to account for motion |
| 22:08.39 | randomparticle | but now.. it's no longer tankHeight high, say |
| 22:08.53 | randomparticle | it can be n * tankHeight high if the tank is moving vertically |
| 22:09.07 | randomparticle | and it's not clipping correctly anymore |
| 22:09.30 | randomparticle | because the clip test looks at the whole interval, not at the moment in time when the sphere hit occurs |
| 22:09.35 | trepan | it's a pre-cull, it is not supposed to be the final test |
| 22:09.39 | randomparticle | yeah |
| 22:09.51 | trepan | the problem is that the extents box isn't as high as the sphere test |
| 22:10.00 | trepan | so the pre-cull is invalid |
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| 22:10.47 | trepan | but, if we're going to use a box test; then that shouldn't be an issue anymore |
| 22:11.03 | trepan | (might still want to add a little margin for kicks and giggles) |
| 22:11.23 | JefferyM | and I'm trying to make sure I understand the diffs between the box and "inteneded" clamped sphere |
| 22:11.40 | trepan | you want me to do it? |
| 22:11.47 | JefferyM | I could just add H and V margins to the box right? |
| 22:11.54 | JefferyM | no, I can do it. I just want to unserstand it |
| 22:12.41 | trepan | the diffs? oh, that picture, but with the box draw as well ? |
| 22:12.44 | randomparticle | this is another way i solved the problem: |
| 22:12.45 | randomparticle | http://bzflag.pastebin.ca/1488898 |
| 22:13.12 | JefferyM | trepan, yeah that'd help |
| 22:13.32 | trepan | hehe, my next commit would be the ticket, adds the debugTankDraw bzdb var |
| 22:13.40 | JefferyM | heh |
| 22:13.41 | trepan | but, that'll have to wait, food |
| 22:13.45 | randomparticle | there was a pic on the forum jeffm |
| 22:13.48 | randomparticle | let me get the link |
| 22:13.54 | JefferyM | I am mostly thinking about it from a gameplay standpoint |
| 22:14.01 | JefferyM | not a technical one |
| 22:14.22 | JefferyM | I belive I have a general understanding of the techincal problem |
| 22:14.26 | JefferyM | have a good meal trepan |
| 22:14.30 | randomparticle | http://www.pixentral.com/show.php?picture=1z6NqVq3rDR7i6sVHqrQcCQM56ujC0 |
| 22:14.44 | randomparticle | what was intended is shown top right |
| 22:14.54 | JefferyM | yeah that I got |
| 22:15.06 | JefferyM | what I want to see is what the tank's bbox would be in X and Y |
| 22:15.11 | JefferyM | compared to it's radius |
| 22:15.19 | randomparticle | it's 4.32 |
| 22:15.37 | randomparticle | the tank radius is inscribed in the box x and y |
| 22:15.56 | randomparticle | i.e., the box side is length 2 x 4.32 |
| 22:15.58 | JefferyM | I know that numbers, I want to see it :) |
| 22:16.04 | randomparticle | ah, ok :) |
| 22:16.36 | JefferyM | I want to see a visual depiction oof the change in volume |
| 22:16.42 | randomparticle | the sphuboid is drawn to scale |
| 22:16.55 | JefferyM | yeah, dosn't really help me for X and Y |
| 22:17.18 | JefferyM | my big debate is between cylinder and box right now |
| 22:17.30 | randomparticle | the box would change gameplay |
| 22:17.33 | JefferyM | we all agree that the current test has a problem with that precull, that's for sure |
| 22:17.35 | JefferyM | yes it would |
| 22:17.40 | randomparticle | because turning your tank could help you to get between shots |
| 22:18.00 | JefferyM | and since this is for 3.0 gameplay changes can happen, but I need to see what the diffs are to fully unserstand what those changes will be |
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| 22:18.10 | JefferyM | yeah it could, and that may be cool :) |
| 22:18.12 | JefferyM | not sure yet |
| 22:18.19 | JefferyM | that's why I want to see these things |
| 22:18.26 | JefferyM | no mater what it'll have to be playtested |
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| 22:19.13 | randomparticle | oh, before i forget. i've added a line in SegmentedShotStrategy.cxx: |
| 22:19.14 | randomparticle | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:19.14 | randomparticle | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:19.29 | randomparticle | the second line is new and necessary |
| 22:19.41 | randomparticle | othewise the position is out by half a tank's height |
| 22:20.01 | JefferyM | I thought I saw code that was taking the postion from the bottom to the middle in there |
| 22:20.12 | randomparticle | yeah, there's similar code above |
| 22:20.24 | randomparticle | it's just, they forgot to do it below too |
| 22:20.28 | JefferyM | ahh |
| 22:20.33 | JefferyM | perhaps it should be commonized |
| 22:20.40 | randomparticle | they get a hit position in the local tank coordinate space |
| 22:20.46 | JefferyM | crap, is glew required now? |
| 22:20.52 | randomparticle | i.e., a position relative to the centre of the tank |
| 22:21.00 | randomparticle | but then they want a global position |
| 22:21.02 | JefferyM | yesh I understand that part |
| 22:21.06 | randomparticle | so they get the position of the tank |
| 22:24.10 | randomparticle | irc needs a whiteboard plug-in |
| 22:24.20 | randomparticle | so much of this stuff easier to explain with drawings :) |
| 22:24.31 | JefferyM | yeah that's why trepan made me one :) |
| 22:24.44 | JefferyM | I understand what you are saying about the middle of the tank |
| 22:25.04 | JefferyM | tank pos is to the bottom but you want the bbox to be around the entire thing so you center in the middle of the tank |
| 22:25.44 | randomparticle | yep. and similar thing with the impact position calc at the end |
| 22:26.14 | JefferyM | yeah you have to keep things using the same origins :) |
| 22:26.20 | JefferyM | that I have to deal with on a daily basis |
| 22:26.57 | randomparticle | you can have the origin of a problem, and the problem of an origin :) |
| 22:27.11 | JefferyM | CS usualy not origin |
| 22:27.17 | JefferyM | rotation frames are fun :0 |
| 22:27.19 | JefferyM | :) |
| 22:28.04 | randomparticle | oh a strange thing happened on the gu server the other day.. lemme see if i can get that screenshot |
| 22:30.48 | JefferyM | brb |
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| 23:05.54 | JefferyM | gets closer to a working windows build |
| 23:11.21 | L4m3r | ~bzsvn |
| 23:11.22 | ibot | bzsvn is, like, http://my.bzflag.org/w/BZFlag_SVN and svn co https://bzflag.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/bzflag/trunk/bzflag bzflag |
| 23:11.29 | L4m3r | been a while |
| 23:11.47 | spldart | get's excited about jeffm's progress..... I know... l4m3 |
| 23:11.57 | spldart | sry for the pun guy :) |
| 23:12.39 | L4m3r | oh crap, need to install the GL and curl stuffs too |
| 23:12.44 | L4m3r | formatted a while ago |
| 23:13.25 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r20081 10/trunk/bzflag/MSVC/build/ (bzflag.sln clientbase.vcproj game.vcproj): Make it build on the windows again. |
| 23:13.38 | JefferyM | if you are talking about trunk L4m3r then it's included in the build |
| 23:13.52 | L4m3r | need a build of both |
| 23:13.58 | JefferyM | ahh |
| 23:14.00 | L4m3r | I've never had good luck with the debian packages |
| 23:15.48 | JefferyM | spldart, I did not try release mode |
| 23:15.59 | joevano | tries out his new TypeMatrix keyboard |
| 23:16.32 | spldart | I'm just a debug mode kinda guy |
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| 23:29.11 | blast007 | spldart: usually you'd want to run a make distclean before you svn up, since stuff might move or get deleted from the svn up, and then the distclean would fail |
| 23:29.51 | spldart | actually... it's right after |
| 23:30.20 | spldart | and more often when I see an .ac or .am or some such that cues me to go ahead and rebuild fromt he top |
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| 23:37.14 | spldart | Hardly rates a pastebin Warning1Command line warning D9035 : option 'Wp64' has been deprecated and will be removed in a future releasecl |
| 23:37.14 | spldart | Error2fatal error C1083: Cannot open source file: '..\..\src\bzfs\lua\Double.cxx': No such file or directoryc1xx |
| 23:37.14 | spldart | Error3error BK1506 : cannot open file '.\bzfs_debug\Double.sbr': No such file or directoryBSCMAKE |
| 23:38.52 | L4m3r | bleh, what Debian package installs gl.h? I can't remember |
| 23:39.04 | spldart | hehe.. that kicked my butt too |
| 23:39.26 | spldart | I used the nvidia glx stuff outta the non-free irrc |
| 23:39.30 | spldart | along witht he sdl |
| 23:39.38 | L4m3r | SDL I have |
| 23:39.38 | spldart | n other stuff |
| 23:39.55 | spldart | looks for his reference material |
| 23:41.14 | spldart | ok... nvidia-kernel-blah blah, nvidia-glx blah blah, |
| 23:41.43 | spldart | libgl1-mesa-dev and libglu1-mesa-dev are important |
| 23:42.14 | spldart | honestly can't connect which connected with gl.h directly |
| 23:42.49 | L4m3r | could've sworn it was libgl1-mesa-dev |
| 23:42.51 | spldart | Those files and the more obvious ones hooked me up for a p4 and an invidia 5200 |
| 23:42.55 | L4m3r | but I've got both already |
| 23:43.02 | spldart | ok |
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| 23:44.14 | L4m3r | tries nvidia-glx-dev |
| 23:44.44 | spldart | If that fixes you up then I'll have to add it to my txt of odd files necessary on odd machines. |
| 23:44.52 | L4m3r | bingo |
| 23:45.06 | spldart | adds |
| 23:46.14 | spldart | had to add libsdl audio to one machine just to get a good build... |
| 23:46.29 | spldart | have no idea why. never had to before |
| 23:46.55 | spldart | These notes and odd experiences are all lenny . atm |
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