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| 00:03.07 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: 03Ha You Got Shot By Me 07http://my.bzflag.org * r5907 10/w/Ban_File: |
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| 00:11.27 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: 03Ha You Got Shot By Me 07http://my.bzflag.org * r5908 10/w/Koth: |
| 00:12.09 | me1 | oh hey, there is a koth page |
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| 00:12.47 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: 03Ha You Got Shot By Me 07http://my.bzflag.org * r5909 10/w/King_Of_The_Hill: |
| 00:14.22 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: 03Me1 07http://my.bzflag.org * r5910 10/w/King_Of_The_Hill: Redirecting to [[Koth]] |
| 00:14.47 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: 03Me1 07http://my.bzflag.org * r5911 10/w/King_Of_The_Hill: Redirecting to [[Game Modes]] |
| 00:21.00 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: 03Me1 07http://my.bzflag.org * r5912 10/w/Game_Modes: /* King of the Hill */ |
| 00:29.06 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: 03Ha You Got Shot By Me 07http://my.bzflag.org * r5913 10/w/LogDetail: |
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| 00:31.56 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: 03Ha You Got Shot By Me 07http://my.bzflag.org * r5914 10/w/Recordmatch: /* Usage */ |
| 00:34.06 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: 03Ha You Got Shot By Me 07http://my.bzflag.org * r5915 10/w/Recordmatch: |
| 00:34.28 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: 03Ha You Got Shot By Me 07http://my.bzflag.org * r5916 10/w/Recordmatch: /* Commands */ |
| 00:36.06 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: 03Ha You Got Shot By Me 07http://my.bzflag.org * r5917 10/w/TorBlock: /* Usage */ |
| 00:42.34 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: 03Ha You Got Shot By Me 07http://my.bzflag.org * r5918 10/w/Known_Cheats: /* Blatant Cheats */ |
| 00:59.14 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: 03Ha You Got Shot By Me 07http://my.bzflag.org * r5919 10/w/Category:Leagues: /* BZSoccer League */ |
| 00:59.39 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: 03Ha You Got Shot By Me 07http://my.bzflag.org * r5920 10/w/Category:Leagues: /* BZSoccer League */ |
| 01:00.45 | a_meteorite | :o |
| 01:00.54 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: 03Ha You Got Shot By Me 07http://my.bzflag.org * r5921 10/w/Category:Leagues: |
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| 01:59.52 | steerpik1 | hey Bambino :) |
| 02:00.09 | Bambino | hi |
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| 02:08.24 | me1 | ~bzflist |
| 02:17.06 | swigg | me1: ping! |
| 02:17.16 | me1 | swigg, pong |
| 02:17.31 | swigg | Me1: I think someone is running an unautharized copy of Badgerking |
| 02:17.41 | swigg | it's on listserv |
| 02:17.46 | swigg | near the top |
| 02:17.58 | me1 | the "autharized" copy is down, so i'd be happy he is ;) |
| 02:18.10 | swigg | hmmm.. true |
| 02:18.21 | me1 | I'm pretty sure badgerking is okay with it regardless |
| 02:18.22 | swigg | oh well I guess it doesn't matter |
| 02:18.54 | me1 | sucks to be bryjen right now, looks like our ddos'r is going for him now |
| 02:22.21 | bryjen | heh. badgerking was actually on the server for a while yesterday evening |
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| 03:03.46 | bryjen | thanks for the heads-up on the connection flood |
| 03:03.53 | bryjen | oops, he's gone |
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| 03:31.54 | steerpik1 | hey jeffm |
| 03:32.08 | jeffm | so berry small |
| 03:32.15 | jeffm | hey |
| 03:32.23 | steerpik1 | :) |
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| 03:33.11 | steerpik1 | :) |
| 03:33.28 | jeffm | this client sucks |
| 03:33.41 | steerpik1 | :\ |
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| 03:38.01 | JefferyM | steerpik1: why you lie to me? |
| 03:39.45 | steerpik1 | lie about what? |
| 03:39.54 | JefferyM | network abbuse |
| 03:39.58 | JefferyM | what's that all about |
| 03:40.11 | JefferyM | make look afool for asking for a cloak for you when you knew you wern't elligable |
| 03:40.35 | steerpik1 | network abuse? it was a misunderstanding |
| 03:40.56 | JefferyM | doubtull, if it was they would understand now and give you a cloak ;) |
| 03:42.12 | steerpik1 | well, i'm sorry if it's caused you any problems |
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| 03:44.47 | jcp | Is there any particular reason why bzflag used to get between 15 and 40 fps on windows, but on linux it gets more like 5? |
| 03:45.27 | JefferyM | drivers |
| 03:45.29 | JefferyM | what card? |
| 03:46.56 | jcp | Mobile Intel 965 iirc |
| 03:47.08 | JefferyM | yep |
| 03:47.12 | jcp | Admittedly not the best for gaming in the first place |
| 03:47.20 | JefferyM | get the lateest ones |
| 03:47.20 | jcp | So are there improved drivers for linux anywherE? |
| 03:47.26 | JefferyM | probalby |
| 03:47.29 | JefferyM | check intel's site |
| 03:47.39 | JefferyM | intel drivers are notoriously bad |
| 03:47.48 | jcp | I did, and they don't seem to offer linux drivers from there despite that everyone says they do |
| 03:47.58 | steerpik1 | my intel works fine on linux |
| 03:48.08 | jcp | hmm, weird |
| 03:48.09 | steerpik1 | they've gotten better over time |
| 03:48.13 | JefferyM | depends on the chipset and driver |
| 03:48.22 | JefferyM | you can't compare one to another with out any information |
| 03:48.40 | jcp | And what's even weirder is that in fedora (I'm in ubuntu right now), I get about twice the framerate but still not near performance in windows |
| 03:49.04 | JefferyM | each distro picks the drives they us4e |
| 03:49.10 | JefferyM | and what modes they put it in |
| 03:49.17 | JefferyM | the intel chipsets arn't real video cards |
| 03:49.25 | JefferyM | the CPU always does some level of processing |
| 03:49.42 | JefferyM | so it's up to the driver to say how much the actual video processor does |
| 03:50.02 | jcp | Is there a command I can use to find out which drivers fedora is using? |
| 03:50.18 | JefferyM | it should be in the name of the package that is installed |
| 03:50.50 | steerpik1 | you should really check out your distro's channl |
| 03:51.22 | steerpik1 | thy may have experimental drivers you may want to try |
| 03:52.55 | jcp | steerpik1: they're not being very helpful :( |
| 03:54.15 | steerpik1 | persistence is key :) |
| 03:54.39 | JefferyM | it's still best to check intel's site |
| 03:55.52 | jcp | JefferyM: I have, and I can't find anything on there about linux drivers |
| 03:56.10 | JefferyM | does your distro offer any updated packages? |
| 03:56.20 | JefferyM | if not, then it's kinda a pain to get the sources and build your own |
| 03:56.28 | JefferyM | you'll end up in dependency hell |
| 03:58.17 | jcp | It's ubuntu, and I haven't been able to find any driver packages in their repositories |
| 03:58.29 | JefferyM | then that's probably all they got |
| 03:58.32 | jcp | Although I'm still new to ubuntu, so I could be missing something |
| 03:58.34 | jcp | darn |
| 03:58.54 | steerpik1 | there should be a separate repository for things in testing |
| 03:59.06 | JefferyM | that also has it's own dependency issues |
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| 03:59.17 | JefferyM | often you can't just update a single package to testing |
| 03:59.25 | JefferyM | since it depends on newer versions of other libs |
| 03:59.30 | steerpik1 | yeah |
| 04:08.12 | a_meteorite | ubuntu is usually pretty good with drivers in my experience |
| 04:08.29 | a_meteorite | but then again from each release to each hardware can be sketchy |
| 04:13.16 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: 03trepan * r20002 10/trunk/bzflag/man/bzw.5.in: * updates for the meshed zones and weapons |
| 04:13.17 | Mets1 | good graphic card performance under linux is hit or miss really - new nvidia cards are well supported, but getting all the acceleration and hardware features on anything else can be quite a task |
| 04:13.42 | Mets1 | assuming you're ok with using nvidia's proprietary software |
| 04:14.39 | Mets1 | shame really, because i've seen steam and steam games running under wine - many gamers could switch, but without full gpu performance it isn't worth it |
| 04:18.37 | Bambino | can we get an admin on WW2 map, it's top of the list by P. Panzer |
| 04:18.51 | Bambino | there's a total troll on it saying he's a bzflag dev |
| 04:19.08 | Bambino | and Hairy B is on as "Clueless" |
| 04:19.35 | Bambino | he joined at hairy_B but rejoined as Clueless |
| 04:19.43 | Bambino | same email string |
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| 05:51.46 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: 03trepan * r20003 10/trunk/bzflag/src/obstacle/MeshObstacle.cxx: * added warnings relating to face triangulation |
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| 06:09.45 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: 03trepan * r20004 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzrobots/Frontend.cxx: |
| 06:09.45 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: * commented an unused function, starter() |
| 06:09.45 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: (the warning halts the build process when using autoconf with --enable-debug) |
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| 06:32.36 | dexter- | wonderin, what are the sound settings for the .wav files for BZ sounds? |
| 06:32.50 | dexter- | 8 or 16 bit? |
| 06:54.15 | dexter- | got it :) |
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| 08:03.30 | Sk3letr0n | is anyone here? |
| 08:10.59 | Sk3letr0n | humbug |
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| 08:28.42 | cygal | trepan: hey, parabolic shots are fun :p |
| 08:29.06 | cygal | does not feel too natural though, something it "floats" too much |
| 08:34.19 | trepan | at different angles? |
| 08:37.37 | cygal | the only angle where I can actually see it |
| 08:37.45 | cygal | most of the time, it just goes too high |
| 08:37.53 | cygal | I did not really understand how it worked though |
| 08:37.58 | trepan | ya, that's expected |
| 08:38.20 | trepan | it just tweaks the z vel, irrespective of the horizontal vel |
| 08:41.18 | cygal | ah, ok |
| 08:44.07 | Janis | http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?f=62&t=13042 |
| 08:44.11 | Janis | if i understood correctly |
| 08:44.24 | Janis | You can also grab an automatic tar.gz from the web SVN viewer. |
| 08:44.32 | Janis | that's svn for 2.99x right? |
| 08:44.54 | cygal | indeed |
| 08:45.26 | Janis | strange, when i do "sh autogen.sh" it gives me alot of errors |
| 08:45.49 | cygal | like what? |
| 08:46.16 | Constitution | hi yanis |
| 08:46.17 | cygal | you should use http://bzflag.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/bzflag/trunk/bzflag.tar.gz?view=tar it only contains bzflag, and not all the associated projects non needed to play (I think) |
| 08:52.28 | Janis | p00ppppp |
| 08:57.52 | Janis | oops |
| 08:58.00 | Janis | sry was in the kitchen |
| 08:58.05 | Janis | sister wrote it, lemme check |
| 08:59.01 | Janis | cygal |
| 08:59.07 | Janis | something like this: http://pastebin.com/d1bba6ef0 |
| 08:59.42 | Janis | @const |
| 08:59.47 | Janis | that's what i downloaded |
| 09:00.40 | Constitution | what shell do you use? |
| 09:00.41 | Janis | oi, meant cygal |
| 09:00.46 | Janis | terminal |
| 09:01.10 | Constitution | no what shell... bash, tcsh... |
| 09:01.15 | Janis | ah |
| 09:02.41 | cygal | grep `whoami` /etc/passwd | cut -d : -f 7 |
| 09:02.47 | cygal | will output your shell |
| 09:03.16 | Constitution | clever :) |
| 09:03.29 | Constitution | or echo $SHELL |
| 09:04.49 | Janis | echo #shell |
| 09:04.58 | Janis | yeah |
| 09:05.01 | Janis | found out also:) |
| 09:05.43 | cygal | so? :) |
| 09:05.46 | Janis | says "sh" |
| 09:06.03 | Janis | it's also written on the terminal window ^^ |
| 09:06.11 | Janis | just noticed |
| 09:07.26 | cygal | can you paste the content of your autogen.sh file? |
| 09:12.44 | cygal | yes, I do need a link :) |
| 09:12.58 | Janis | http://pastebin.com/d2a3afe37 |
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| 09:16.40 | Janis_ | hmm, lost connection :| |
| 09:21.32 | cygal | hmm |
| 09:21.44 | cygal | how did you untar the tar.gz? |
| 09:22.03 | Janis_ | just double clicked on it:) |
| 09:22.25 | Janis_ | via BOMarchiveHelper |
| 09:22.46 | cygal | ahh |
| 09:22.46 | Janis_ | default program on mac for untar'ing |
| 09:22.58 | cygal | this is the reason I think |
| 09:23.10 | cygal | the end of lines are not the same with mac |
| 09:23.13 | cygal | and sh got lost |
| 09:23.41 | cygal | can you try : tar xvzf bzflag.tar.gz? |
| 09:24.03 | Janis_ | ok |
| 09:26.38 | cygal | if in the unarchived directory you get "admin, bzauthd, bzedit", etc. as subfolders, jump directly in "bzflag" and launch sh autogen.sh from there |
| 09:26.53 | cygal | unless you need the other programs, but I guess you only want to play bzflag |
| 09:26.57 | Janis_ | hmmm, wait a minute |
| 09:29.12 | brlcad | that's an ancient autogen.sh |
| 09:29.29 | cygal | really? I diffed it with my current one, and there was no difference |
| 09:30.11 | Janis_ | brlcad, that's the one which one was included in the svn |
| 09:30.35 | brlcad | curl http://bzflag.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/bzflag/trunk/bzflag/autogen.sh > autogen.new.sh |
| 09:30.46 | brlcad | sh autogen.new.sh ;) |
| 09:31.03 | brlcad | diff then if you like, but massive logic differences |
| 09:32.07 | Janis_ | ok, trying ^^ |
| 09:33.32 | Janis_ | something strange with this version, it takes way too much time for "preparing build" or should it be so? |
| 09:33.44 | cygal | it is normal |
| 09:34.00 | Janis_ | with previous versions it was faster |
| 09:34.03 | brlcad | that's an old source tarball with a lot of old assumptions that are slowly getting out of date, but there isn't a replacement release yet so you have to work through issues |
| 09:35.23 | brlcad | it runs the exact same commands as before, just with different/better compliance to match autoreconf's behavior |
| 09:35.39 | brlcad | for things like recursive configure, which the old script knew nothing about |
| 09:36.04 | Janis_ | shall i disable plugins? when doing ./configure |
| 09:36.10 | brlcad | you can/should run it with the --verbose option to see what it's going |
| 09:36.18 | brlcad | did autogen.sh complete? |
| 09:36.22 | Janis_ | yes |
| 09:36.33 | brlcad | and say it's ready for configure? |
| 09:36.51 | Janis_ | yeah:) |
| 09:37.28 | brlcad | then you're good to build like it said |
| 09:37.34 | Janis_ | but my question is: "should i allow plugins in this built or should i disable them?" |
| 09:37.53 | trepan | do you need them? |
| 09:37.56 | Janis_ | nope |
| 09:38.00 | Janis_ | :-) |
| 09:39.50 | brlcad | you could try a default configure, make sure it'll compile first, then go to customizing the build options later -- otherwise you sort of answered your own question |
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| 15:44.25 | cygal | hi |
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| 18:35.13 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: 03trepan * r20005 10/trunk/bzflag/ (11 files in 4 dirs): |
| 18:35.13 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: * added ObstacleList GroupDefinitionMgr::meshFaces |
| 18:35.13 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: (filled in after the world has been generated) |
| 18:35.13 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: * added Obstacle::getTypeFromGUID() and Obstacle::getListIDFromGUID() |
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| 19:05.55 | Mets1 | oh man...i missed being here for r20000 |
| 19:06.18 | Mets1 | congrats trepan :P |
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| 23:10.04 | Digital-Pioneer | Hi. My BZF is screwed up... The fonts seem to be rendering (very) incorrectly. Not all of the text is affected, but the menus are just colored blocks. |
| 23:10.39 | Mets1 | is this trunk or branch (aka 2.10) |
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| 23:11.59 | Digital-Pioneer | 2.0.12 |
| 23:13.18 | Mets | did you just install it or was it working previously? |
| 23:13.39 | Digital-Pioneer | It was working on this system before... |
| 23:15.16 | Mets | did you change any settings? |
| 23:15.35 | Mets | either in the game or your system? |
| 23:16.07 | Digital-Pioneer | I changed from DVI out to HDMI out... |
| 23:16.49 | Digital-Pioneer | I wonder if that caused it, since amdcccle fonts only work with HDMI, not with DVI... |
| 23:17.36 | Mets | well, can you change back to DVI and see if it works first? |
| 23:18.58 | Mets | the video part between dvi and hdmi isn't different, so if it works with one it should work with the other, but maybe there's something funky happening with your graphics card when it tries to output hdmi |
| 23:19.45 | Digital-Pioneer | Nope, same in DVI. |
| 23:20.10 | blast007 | try renaming your configuration directory |
| 23:20.15 | blast007 | what OS? Windows? |
| 23:20.30 | Digital-Pioneer | Nah, ArchLinux. |
| 23:20.31 | Mets | blast007: linux i'm assuing, he's got 2.0.12 |
| 23:20.38 | blast007 | ah, yeah |
| 23:21.09 | Digital-Pioneer | OK, renaming config fixed it... |
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| 23:21.34 | blast007 | be interesting to see what in the config caused it |
| 23:21.40 | Digital-Pioneer | It would be. |
| 23:22.01 | blast007 | the font system is different in 2.99.x though |
| 23:22.13 | blast007 | uses freetype/FTGL |
| 23:22.28 | Digital-Pioneer | Scud... |
| 23:22.36 | Digital-Pioneer | No, moving config didn't fix it... :P |
| 23:22.41 | blast007 | heh |
| 23:22.47 | Digital-Pioneer | I closed and re-opened and it went back to messed up. |
| 23:22.52 | blast007 | probably your driver then |
| 23:23.00 | Mets | I've seen font issues with the new one, i've had some trouble with some of the glyphs at high resolutions |
| 23:23.02 | blast007 | or play with some of the graphics settings |
| 23:23.09 | Mets | new one = trunk |
| 23:23.28 | Digital-Pioneer | Well, I have no usable menus, so I think I'll just try trunk. |
| 23:23.41 | blast007 | Digital-Pioneer: trunk won't work with 2.0.x servers |
| 23:23.44 | Mets | you can't unfortunately.. |
| 23:24.01 | blast007 | it's probably a bad driver |
| 23:24.09 | Mets | what graphics card? |
| 23:25.18 | Digital-Pioneer | Radeon HD 4850 |
| 23:25.24 | Digital-Pioneer | Catalyst 9.6 |
| 23:26.58 | Mets | you're using the proprietary drivers right? |
| 23:27.31 | Digital-Pioneer | Mets: Yeah, that's Catalyst. :) |
| 23:27.59 | Mets | thought so, haven't used an ATI card in a while |
| 23:29.29 | Mets | i dunno, my next suggestion was to go get the proprietary drivers, since they usually work better |
| 23:29.29 | Digital-Pioneer | Heheh |
| 23:29.34 | Digital-Pioneer | The open source drivers work better, but since the best you can get with those is software rasterizer, I went to the proprietary ones for good 3D. |
| 23:30.15 | pacman87 | Digital-Pioneer: have you been able to use custom modelines with that driver? |
| 23:30.57 | Digital-Pioneer | pacman87: Not sure what you mean, so maybe. :P |
| 23:31.09 | pacman87 | if you don't know, you probably haven't |
| 23:34.08 | Digital-Pioneer | pacman87: Not necessarily, I've been finangling with xorg.conf and some other weird file that seems to be critical to Catalyst... |
| 23:34.51 | Digital-Pioneer | I'm having all kinds of grief with underscanning over HDMI... |
| 23:35.30 | Digital-Pioneer | Finally found a solution for it, I have to use 4 aticonfig commands to move the screen up and left, then extend it to fill the screen.... |
| 23:35.36 | blast007 | Digital-Pioneer: the radeonHD drivers might be worth a try |
| 23:35.49 | blast007 | the open-source ones |
| 23:36.19 | pacman87 | blast007: i was getting around 1fps with the radeonHD driver on my 4850 |
| 23:36.20 | blast007 | think JeffM had said once there was three sets of drives |
| 23:36.27 | blast007 | pacman87: when? |
| 23:36.39 | pacman87 | this month |
| 23:36.42 | blast007 | heh |
| 23:36.43 | blast007 | nice |
| 23:36.58 | blast007 | Digital-Pioneer: get an nVidia ;) |
| 23:37.01 | blast007 | or install Windows |
| 23:37.14 | pacman87 | the OS driver lags in hardware acceleration support |
| 23:37.25 | Digital-Pioneer | blast007: Yeah, I did... But that doesn't get any 3D acceleration. |
| 23:37.38 | Digital-Pioneer | blast007: I got no use for crappy nVidia or crappier windoze either. :P |
| 23:37.57 | blast007 | at least nVidia has drivers that work |
| 23:38.04 | Digital-Pioneer | Debateable. |
| 23:38.11 | blast007 | I can render the fonts ;) |
| 23:38.16 | Digital-Pioneer | I've used nvidia's drivers for years... |
| 23:38.25 | Digital-Pioneer | Crashes and bugs galore. |
| 23:38.34 | pacman87 | yeah, and i didn't have to patch the driver myself to get nvidia working... |
| 23:38.46 | blast007 | not being able to handle OpenGL is a bug too, which your ATI driver has |
| 23:39.40 | Digital-Pioneer | The proprietary driver does OpenGL just fine. |
| 23:39.51 | blast007 | they why can't it render our fonts? |
| 23:39.59 | blast007 | that's just OpenGL |
| 23:40.24 | blast007 | even my Intel graphics can handle that |
| 23:40.38 | Digital-Pioneer | Don't ask me, it's closed source. :P |
| 23:41.04 | blast007 | it's not properly supporting some aspect of OpenGL, which is a bug in their driver |
| 23:42.24 | blast007 | let me see if I can find some option that might help |
| 23:43.11 | blast007 | try adding this to your config: |
| 23:43.21 | blast007 | set useBitmapFontRenderer 1 |
| 23:43.51 | blast007 | or not |
| 23:44.02 | Mets | from what I seem to see, I haven't run into too many people who have great luck with ati cards under linux. It seems nvidia tries a bit harder to support linux drivers, though you do need to have a fairly new nvidia card to get full use of the hardware |
| 23:44.44 | Mets | fail... |
| 23:44.49 | Mets | lol |
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| 23:45.18 | Digital-Pioneer | Wow, that's weird. |
| 23:45.45 | Digital-Pioneer | My processor overclocked itself (I had turned OC off) and overheated when I tried to compile bzflag. |
| 23:45.52 | Digital-Pioneer | Fun. :P |
| 23:48.16 | blast007 | try adding this to your config: |
| 23:48.18 | blast007 | set useBitmapFontRenderer 1 |
| 23:48.44 | blast007 | Mets: I've had pretty good luck even with old cards |
| 23:48.48 | blast007 | just can't use the newest driver |
| 23:49.08 | blast007 | I got an old Riva TNT working with Slackware 11 |
| 23:49.28 | blast007 | had to recompile the linux kernel because it has rivafb built in, but that's not nVidia's fault |
| 23:49.59 | Digital-Pioneer | blast007: That works. |
| 23:50.43 | Mets | blast007: why can't you use the newest driver? |
| 23:51.24 | Mets | gee I remember TNT being such a big deal lol.. |