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| 00:32.55 | CIA-60 | BZFlag: 03kingrobot * r19901 10/trunk/bzflag/MSVC/build/ (bzflag.sln bzflag.vcproj clientbase.vcproj): Made clientbase into static lib for Windows (Instead of just moving files) |
| 00:33.40 | KingRobot | There, JeffM ;) |
| 00:34.22 | KingRobot | jorgenpt: Sometime you're around, I'd like to talk to you about the internal communication of bzrobots |
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| 00:37.51 | spldart | That commit added alot of errors to my build... BUT.. Lemme 'rebuild all' to see if that fixes. I imagine it will. |
| 00:39.43 | spldart | oooopsy... maybe not |
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| 00:46.05 | spldart | http://pastebin.bzflag.bz/m17124b76 |
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| 01:57.03 | jorgenpt | spldart: Wow, that really failed. |
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| 02:08.18 | delusional | my mac builds flawlessly |
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| 02:29.28 | MindstormsKid | Is there any way to change the size of the window in windowed mode? |
| 02:40.25 | pacman87 | disable "confine mouse" and then resize by dragging the edge of the window |
| 02:42.05 | MindstormsKid | The drag arrow thingy doesn't appear.. |
| 02:46.58 | blast007 | -window -geometry 640x480 |
| 02:48.27 | MindstormsKid | ah ok |
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| 07:05.33 | Joss_ | hello |
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| 07:06.03 | {janis} | hi joss |
| 07:06.53 | Joss_ | HEllo |
| 07:08.35 | Joss_ | ok? |
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| 08:27.28 | {janis} | sdl.framework xcodebuilding failed |
| 08:28.50 | {janis} | on mac os x |
| 08:28.54 | {janis} | 10.4 |
| 08:28.58 | {janis} | can anybody help |
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| 11:24.40 | dexter- | bzbb admins about? |
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| 12:24.23 | Legend_13 | hey is there any ducati admins online? |
| 12:25.07 | Legend_13 | chestal? |
| 12:25.14 | Legend_13 | Are you there? |
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| 12:26.10 | {janis} | any ducati admin online? |
| 12:26.34 | Legend_13 | i just asked and i got a great response xD nothing... =) |
| 12:26.46 | {janis} | heh |
| 12:27.00 | Legend_13 | i need chestal to wake up |
| 12:27.11 | Legend_13 | he can do all that stuff =) i think |
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| 14:10.45 | blast007 | Wyk3d: how is the coding going? |
| 14:17.49 | Wyk3d | just coded up an the concrete RTL for a couple of single cycle MIPS instructions and ran a Scoreboard algorithm to detect hazards :) |
| 14:18.13 | Wyk3d | means, exams |
| 14:19.19 | blast007 | heh |
| 14:20.52 | blast007 | I've been thinking more about what Jeff has discussed regarding storing the groups in a regular database instead of LDAP |
| 14:21.26 | Cygal | school projects are finished soon here - I'll be able to finally spend some time on the gsoc tomorrow |
| 14:21.44 | blast007 | Cygal: cool |
| 14:22.35 | blast007 | Wyk3d: basically, I was thinking that if the group system was on a single system that having auth distributed wouldn't really make sense, since (at least for bzfs) there are no permissions tied to a user. They are tied to a group. |
| 14:22.52 | blast007 | so if the group server is down, then auth is pointless |
| 14:23.35 | blast007 | and if we're going to have to then replicate a mysql database across servers (for the group data), then it would almost just make more sense to use that database for users too... |
| 14:24.12 | blast007 | so I guess we need to decide what the requirements are of a "group system" and then determine if OpenLDAP is going to meet those requirements |
| 14:29.38 | brlcad | the converse is true too, if auth is distributed then it doesn't make much sense to just have groups on one system |
| 14:30.05 | brlcad | designing groups like that such that is limits auth sounds .. limiting, why? |
| 14:30.54 | brlcad | why separate them at all for that matter? bzauthd originally was originally scoped to serve up registration, auth, and groups |
| 14:32.11 | brlcad | same as the current system, just through a daemon interface |
| 14:34.03 | brlcad | more importantly, a design best practice, changing more than one thing at a time invites risk and failure -- that's why it was "do what we do now, but through a daemon" as a means to decouple phpbb |
| 14:36.37 | brlcad | doesn't answer the ldap vs mysql on the backend as it could still really be either as an implementation detail (with good reasons for both), the functional 'change' is the daemon though |
| 14:43.14 | blast007 | brlcad: main thing I wasn't sure of re: LDAP is if you can assign certain users specific rights to an object |
| 14:43.34 | blast007 | I'm used to Active Directory (which *does* have that ability) |
| 14:45.24 | blast007 | for group management |
| 14:45.40 | blast007 | so the owner(s) can add/remove members |
| 14:46.19 | brlcad | there's not anything in AD I'm aware of that can't be represented in LDAP |
| 14:46.35 | blast007 | ok |
| 14:46.54 | brlcad | AD is an LDAP implementation (as of relatively recently at least) with just a different auth mechanism and it just won't chatter the ldap protocol by default |
| 14:48.21 | brlcad | what you can/can't do is entirely up to the schema used on the directory |
| 14:49.51 | blast007 | finally googled the right search terms: http://www.openldap.org/faq/data/cache/189.html |
| 14:49.57 | blast007 | so that looks promising |
| 14:50.33 | brlcad | take a look at /usr/local/etc/openldap/schema |
| 14:50.51 | brlcad | there are various schemas you can set up your directory to be modelled after |
| 14:51.02 | brlcad | AD has a similar setup |
| 14:52.36 | brlcad | so for example, something like nis.schema will give you a storage that is nearly identical to traditional unix passwd/group management |
| 14:54.00 | brlcad | inetorgperson.schema can be combined with that to give the more advanced comma-separated "realname" field used on modern systems (where you can include things like an address/e-mail) |
| 14:54.46 | brlcad | and so on -- how groups are managed will be entirely dependent upon the schema(s) put in place (though the default ones are pretty much mirrored towards AD compat) |
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| 14:57.07 | blast007 | wow, didn't realize it was that flexible. That's awesome. :) |
| 14:57.15 | brlcad | (fwiw, the core schema gives account management as well (and a whole lot more) |
| 14:59.08 | brlcad | core is required, so most of the tutorials and what not are geared towards fields it provides (o=, ou=, name=, etc) |
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| 19:28.10 | janis | good evening / morning |
| 19:28.20 | janis | mac compilers online? |
| 19:29.37 | blast007 | janis: have you tried building yet? we really don't use XCode that much. It basically just calls the command line built system |
| 19:29.38 | janis | would be great to get some help |
| 19:33.02 | CIA-63 | BZFlag: 03trepan * r19902 10/trunk/bzflag/ (misc/rrlog.cxx src/bzfs/CmdLineOptions.cxx): * removed some FIXMEs |
| 19:39.49 | JefferyM2501 | what version are you trying to build janis ? |
| 19:40.31 | janis | i am trying to build SDL |
| 19:40.40 | janis | sdl.framework* |
| 19:40.52 | JefferyM2501 | you should not have to compile that, SDL has a dev package IIRC |
| 19:42.01 | janis | yes i know about SDL-dev-package |
| 19:43.39 | janis | allready downloaded it, after installation my xcode has new abilities. it can run new project called " SDL application, SDL cocoa application and etc |
| 19:43.59 | JefferyM2501 | bzflag dosn't really use xcode that much |
| 19:44.01 | janis | but again, when i am doing xcodebuild, it fails |
| 19:44.11 | janis | jeff |
| 19:44.14 | JefferyM2501 | you should not have to build the DL lib, it should come premade |
| 19:44.28 | janis | ah yes |
| 19:44.41 | JefferyM2501 | you install it, then just build bzflag |
| 19:44.46 | janis | there is, but whenever i put it into the /library/frameworks |
| 19:44.48 | JefferyM2501 | our config system will find it |
| 19:45.09 | janis | it automatically deletes after i do "make" |
| 19:45.21 | JefferyM2501 | make on what? sdl or bzflag? |
| 19:45.26 | janis | bzflag |
| 19:45.35 | JefferyM2501 | it deletes it from the lib dir? |
| 19:45.52 | janis | from the /Library/Frameworks/ - where it supposed to be |
| 19:46.05 | JefferyM2501 | what version of bzflag are you trying to build? |
| 19:46.17 | janis | 2.0.10 |
| 19:46.31 | JefferyM2501 | and you can't use the premade version why? |
| 19:54.39 | JefferyM | stupid impostor |
| 20:00.31 | brlcad | heh |
| 20:01.07 | brlcad | janis: in your bzflag dir, run this: sh autogen.sh && ./configure && make |
| 20:01.15 | brlcad | xcodebuild is for wussies |
| 20:01.36 | JefferyM | you gonna get a 3gs brlcad ? |
| 20:01.41 | brlcad | dunno |
| 20:01.56 | JefferyM | you still on a gen1? |
| 20:02.03 | brlcad | yep, pretty happy with it ;) |
| 20:02.18 | brlcad | cpu performance is the biggest issue |
| 20:02.22 | brlcad | so that is a motivator |
| 20:02.33 | JefferyM | I'm up for contract renewal with new hardware on the 27th, I am seriously pondering. |
| 20:02.45 | JefferyM | how do you store yours? |
| 20:02.50 | JefferyM | pocket or a case? |
| 20:02.54 | brlcad | pocket |
| 20:03.03 | JefferyM | the screen is fine with it being in the pocket? |
| 20:03.22 | brlcad | I toss the thing all around, drop it from time to time, really pretty tough |
| 20:03.23 | JefferyM | that's what worries me |
| 20:03.27 | JefferyM | cool |
| 20:03.36 | brlcad | not a single scratch on the display |
| 20:03.47 | brlcad | but then I don't carry it in the same pocket as my keys/knife |
| 20:03.59 | JefferyM | I'm gonna have to make sure I do that |
| 20:04.04 | JefferyM | and get a screen protector |
| 20:04.14 | JefferyM | too bad they don't have a ZuneHD phone, I'd get that in a heartbeat |
| 20:05.27 | brlcad | I had a case for it, but eventually just stopped using it after a couple weeks .. made it bigger and 'felt' unnecessary even with how I toss it around |
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| 20:06.18 | brlcad | friend checked out the new palm a couple days ago and was pretty impressed |
| 20:06.31 | JefferyM | I don't want to go to sprint |
| 20:06.39 | JefferyM | ATT seems to be the best service here |
| 20:06.54 | JefferyM | but yeah it seems intersting |
| 20:07.42 | janis | brlcad: make done |
| 20:08.08 | JefferyM | janis, did it have any errors? |
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| 20:09.18 | janis | http://pastebin.com/m4761418d |
| 20:09.39 | bz81 | lol=? |
| 20:09.47 | JefferyM | you ran the auto gen and configure first? |
| 20:09.53 | janis | right |
| 20:09.58 | JefferyM | did THEY have any errors? |
| 20:10.06 | janis | nope |
| 20:10.36 | JefferyM | did it generate a bzflag exeutable in the src/bzflag dir? |
| 20:10.54 | bz81 | o |
| 20:11.05 | bz81 | not if they created errors |
| 20:11.44 | JefferyM | you are missing something janis, somethign happened that you didn't see, go over it all again, and see where you really have errors |
| 20:12.00 | brlcad | it's done |
| 20:12.11 | brlcad | janis: run this: src/bzflag/bzflag |
| 20:12.15 | bz81 | what's done? |
| 20:12.21 | bz81 | ah ok |
| 20:12.31 | JefferyM | bz81, are you janis? |
| 20:12.48 | janis | no |
| 20:12.50 | janis | he is not |
| 20:12.50 | blast007 | no, that's Zw3rgy |
| 20:13.06 | janis | it doesn't run properly |
| 20:13.08 | JefferyM | then why are you talking in the middle of us taking to janis? |
| 20:13.16 | JefferyM | janis, can you be more vauge? |
| 20:14.20 | janis | http://pastebin.com/d2cc3e875 |
| 20:14.44 | JefferyM | the error message is correct |
| 20:14.51 | JefferyM | you have to tell it where the data dir is |
| 20:14.54 | JefferyM | or put it into a .app |
| 20:15.02 | JefferyM | it's running fine, it just can't find the data dir |
| 20:15.13 | bz81 | Can i help? |
| 20:15.16 | JefferyM | nope |
| 20:15.27 | bz81 | Had the same eroor. |
| 20:15.30 | bz81 | error* |
| 20:15.39 | JefferyM | it's a common error for people who don't know what they are doing |
| 20:15.47 | JefferyM | the error even tells you how to solve it |
| 20:15.57 | bz81 | Yes there i give you right |
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| 20:17.40 | bz81 | Newbe = same error = solution Start the executable file from Bzflag.exe(Mac) which is in bzflag-2.0.xx |
| 20:17.55 | JefferyM | you are not helping |
| 20:18.07 | bz81 | should be there sorry again |
| 20:18.14 | bz81 | a* |
| 20:18.22 | bz81 | ?* |
| 20:18.27 | JefferyM | the mac version dosn't work the same way with regards to where it finds the data dir |
| 20:18.34 | JefferyM | you can't do the same thing you did on windows |
| 20:18.38 | bz81 | ak ok |
| 20:18.43 | bz81 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:18.55 | JefferyM | if you don't know what you are talking about, then just don't talk |
| 20:19.06 | bz81 | failed -> bye, bye |
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| 20:23.43 | janis | do i have to tell to the bzflag.app where the data dir is, right? |
| 20:23.55 | JefferyM | not the .app |
| 20:24.04 | JefferyM | the .app is a folder that contains the executable |
| 20:24.08 | JefferyM | you have 2 options |
| 20:24.26 | JefferyM | 1) copy your new bzflag program into an existing .app file and replace the one that is there |
| 20:24.46 | JefferyM | or 2) add -directory to the command line when you run bzflag from the command line and tell it where the data dir is. |
| 20:24.57 | JefferyM | it all depends if you want to double click it or run from command line. |
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| 20:33.10 | janis | thanks all |
| 20:33.29 | janis | i just moved data folder to the Resource folder in the .app contents |
| 20:33.39 | janis | bye all |
| 20:33.54 | janis | all works great |
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| 22:06.28 | bz8 | who is was mr molez? |
| 22:06.43 | JefferyM | why does it matter? |
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| 22:06.54 | bz8 | i saw that he got banned on 1vs1 |
| 22:07.05 | JefferyM | why does it matter? |
| 22:07.10 | bz8 | and i read a post in bzbb forum about him |
| 22:07.17 | SpazzyMcGee | bz8: Let's just say he probably deserved the ban |
| 22:07.20 | bz8 | interests me |
| 22:07.20 | JefferyM | he did |
| 22:07.29 | JefferyM | then talk to the owner of the server |
| 22:07.33 | JefferyM | bans are private issues |
| 22:07.41 | bz8 | ok |
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| 22:37.21 | Winny | "who is was" heh |
| 22:38.12 | brad | is/was |
| 22:39.30 | Winny | BARD! |
| 22:41.43 | brad | hello sir |
| 22:44.21 | Winny | ;D |
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| 23:09.23 | zw3rgy | What does "Error:Connection attempt rejected" mean? |
| 23:13.04 | zw3rgy | please... |
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| 23:14.43 | delusional | its pretty self explanatory |
| 23:15.57 | zw3rgy | yea but why? |
| 23:16.22 | spldart | To be concise. |
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| 23:17.01 | zw3rgy | yea to be concise |
| 23:17.04 | zw3rgy | ... |
| 23:20.18 | zw3rgy | yea to be concise.... |
| 23:20.22 | zw3rgy | ? |
| 23:20.43 | spldart | ... |
| 23:20.48 | spldart | were you banned from somewhere?> |
| 23:20.57 | zw3rgy | dunno |
| 23:21.01 | zw3rgy | seems like |
| 23:21.22 | zw3rgy | feels like a masterban lol |
| 23:21.31 | zw3rgy | o.0 |
| 23:23.15 | spldart | yeah. |
| 23:31.05 | JefferyM | no, it means the connection was rejected at the firewall/ip tables level |
| 23:31.13 | JefferyM | masterban usualy shows the reason and MB |
| 23:37.32 | JefferyM | ahh it's a list server ban |
| 23:37.36 | JefferyM | looks like he's done |
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