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| 00:17.47 | blast007 | not according to a bzfquery |
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| 05:15.02 | BulletCatcher | I have narrowed the LaserMania teleporter "sealed" problem to compiling src/clientbase/LocalPlayer.cxx with -O2. |
| 05:15.04 | BulletCatcher | The problem is not present when compiling with -O1. |
| 05:15.53 | BulletCatcher | I attempted to identify the specific optimizations that matter, but there are several and I got tired of recompiling & testing. |
| 05:16.39 | BulletCatcher | The compiler is gcc-4.3.2 . |
| 05:16.43 | JeffM | not exatly a small file to much with ;)\ |
| 05:17.53 | BulletCatcher | Yeah. Since it implements a class it will be extra difficult to break it up further. |
| 05:18.13 | I_Died_Once | yeah we were all on the edge of our seats hoping that one bug in Lasermania would get fixed |
| 05:18.57 | I_Died_Once | goos call improving one of the more playable maps of Louman's |
| 05:19.00 | I_Died_Once | **good |
| 05:20.12 | BulletCatcher | This is the sort of thing that happens when developers do whatever interests them. |
| 05:20.15 | JeffM | you could try breaking functions out into there own file |
| 05:20.19 | JeffM | untill you find out what file does it |
| 05:20.39 | JeffM | I stil think there is an == somewhere dealing with floads |
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| 05:24.29 | BulletCatcher | Near the edge of the map (nearly 1400 world units from center) I think that floats don't have enough precision to do collision detection correctly. |
| 05:25.08 | JeffM | possibly, but I didn't think the error got bigger the further away you got from zero |
| 05:25.31 | JeffM | it's not like we are dealing with super tight tolerances |
| 05:25.54 | JeffM | a tolerance of 0.01 should be FINE for gameplay |
| 05:26.04 | BulletCatcher | But we use .001 or something. |
| 05:26.13 | JeffM | that's still pretty big |
| 05:26.23 | JeffM | if you increase it to 0.01 does the problem still happen? |
| 05:26.47 | BulletCatcher | Part of the problem is that I'm not sure what to try changing. |
| 05:27.12 | JeffM | describe the exact problem to me |
| 05:27.57 | BulletCatcher | On LaserMania with a 32-bit client, the tank gets stuck after going through the center teleporter to one near the edge. |
| 05:28.28 | JeffM | what is the teleporter sitting on? |
| 05:28.39 | BulletCatcher | The destination is on a mesh, I believe. |
| 05:28.51 | BulletCatcher | The source is on the ground. |
| 05:29.31 | JeffM | move void LocalPlayer::doUpdateMotion(float dt) to it's own file, and build just that with optimizations |
| 05:29.57 | JeffM | that's the guts of what will be called |
| 05:30.40 | BulletCatcher | Okay. If splitting the big file like that works then I can play with it until I find the culprit. |
| 05:30.53 | JeffM | it'll be in that function |
| 05:30.55 | JeffM | it's HUGE |
| 05:31.37 | BulletCatcher | If so, I can split it up into subroutines until I find the problem code. |
| 05:31.57 | JeffM | that may fix it on it's own :) |
| 05:32.04 | JeffM | cus that will change the optimizations |
| 05:32.07 | JeffM | but yeah feel free |
| 05:32.12 | JeffM | that thing is WAY too big |
| 05:32.35 | BulletCatcher | Yeah. Hopefully I'll find it. |
| 05:32.45 | BulletCatcher | (Not tonight, though.) |
| 05:33.19 | trepan | a LouMan man, the teles are probably sitting on thin boxes |
| 05:33.42 | BulletCatcher | FWIW, I see no use of == to compare floats in that file. |
| 05:34.00 | JeffM | good |
| 05:34.09 | trepan | yup, 1e-06 high boxes ... |
| 05:34.49 | BulletCatcher | Huh. Good eye. |
| 05:35.18 | trepan | na, good memory ;) |
| 05:35.40 | trepan | the tele/mesh/box problem should be gone now; could try the map without those boes |
| 05:35.45 | trepan | *boxes |
| 05:36.16 | BulletCatcher | I'll do that. It'll take a couple of minutes. |
| 05:36.26 | trepan | crazy devs fixing whatever interests them |
| 05:36.50 | BulletCatcher | Yeah. You can't even dock their pay. |
| 05:37.18 | trepan | all you can do is withhold the thanks and crap on 'em at the slightest opportunity |
| 05:38.31 | JeffM | blames it on the terrorists |
| 05:41.45 | BulletCatcher | Okay! Removing the thin boxes and lowering the teleporters fixes it. |
| 05:42.25 | BulletCatcher | So, yes, the teleporter on mesh problem seems to be fixed. |
| 05:43.13 | BulletCatcher | I'll have to test the map change in 2.0.12, too. |
| 05:43.37 | BulletCatcher | ~trepan++ |
| 05:45.30 | trepan | still wonder what the lockup problem was |
| 05:45.37 | trepan | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:46.01 | trepan | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:46.21 | trepan | (sends info to stdout iirc, might be faster to test that way) |
| 05:46.22 | BulletCatcher | I have /localset debugTele 1, it shows the teleporter working normally. |
| 05:46.38 | trepan | debugMotion is probably more interesting |
| 05:46.51 | BulletCatcher | But very noisy IIRC. |
| 05:46.54 | trepan | sounds like the teleport worked, the 'sticking' happens after |
| 05:47.32 | BulletCatcher | The tank is definitely out of the destination teleporter when it becomes sealed. |
| 05:47.49 | trepan | but what's its Z pos? (with -O1 and -O2) |
| 05:49.14 | trepan | crashes |
| 05:49.26 | BulletCatcher | I'll have to check again, but it reports 30 as Z. |
| 05:49.35 | BulletCatcher | Which would be inside the thin box. |
| 05:52.26 | BulletCatcher | Yup. When sealed, debugTele reports just "30" as the dstPos Z value. |
| 05:56.39 | BulletCatcher | When compiled with -O1, the same "30" Z is reported but the tank is not sealed. (original map) |
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| 13:19.11 | Thumper_ | Wyk3d: \o/ |
| 13:21.12 | Wyk3d | finally got over that :) |
| 13:22.17 | Wyk3d | log message has the wrong rev tho :-/ .. gonna make another small merge |
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| 13:24.46 | Wyk3d | there :) |
| 13:31.24 | Wyk3d | lol .. 19840 bounced from the sourceforge mailing list " |
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| 16:42.46 | joevano | does anybody else see anything wierd with this site? |
| 16:42.49 | joevano | http://amiga.sourceforge.net/index.php?sfcontent=/project/memberlist.php?group_id=3248 |
| 16:45.25 | joevano | seems to me our developer list has been hijacked and is being used by another project |
| 16:45.31 | Thumper_ | joevano: absolutely. |
| 16:45.33 | joevano | ~bing++ |
| 16:45.38 | Thumper_ | (and I have a problem with that) |
| 16:45.42 | Thumper_ | bong :) |
| 16:46.06 | joevano | i especially have an issue with all of us being listed and the paypal btoon going to someone else |
| 16:46.18 | joevano | button* |
| 16:47.06 | joevano | hmm.. looks like it may be a webcrawler bug or something |
| 16:47.31 | joevano | if you click on home and the project againg it displays their developers |
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| 16:47.49 | Thumper_ | if you put whatever devlist number you want in there it looks the same ... with a different set of devs obviously |
| 16:49.31 | joevano | well technically it would be a bug with the php on their website |
| 16:49.51 | blast007 | that's a really horrible site |
| 16:49.57 | joevano | yep |
| 16:50.10 | blast007 | pulls content from SF.net directly and spits it out on their site ;) |
| 16:51.00 | joevano | yeah, but it seems you can pull ANY sf contents and it displays on their site like it is associated with their project |
| 16:55.19 | JefferyM | isn't that hosted on SF? |
| 16:55.44 | JefferyM | it's probably just got the wrong goup ID |
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| 17:00.31 | JefferyM | http://amiga.sourceforge.net/index.php?sfcontent=/project/memberlist.php?group_id=48010 is what it should be |
| 17:00.56 | JefferyM | you can put any group ID in there |
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| 17:19.32 | joevano | JefferyM: yep, just a horribly written site |
| 17:19.51 | JefferyM | I think it's just a third party site they grabbed |
| 17:20.47 | joevano | yep, you can grab any SF content with that page http://amiga.sourceforge.net/index.php?sfcontent=/projects/bzflag/) |
| 17:21.28 | JefferyM | it's not a horrible idea if you want to run your site on another server |
| 17:21.37 | JefferyM | and it lets you not look at ugly SF sites |
| 17:21.49 | JefferyM | but it's not like that site is prudy |
| 17:21.56 | JefferyM | purdy even |
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| 17:51.29 | BulletCatcher | JefferyM: As you suspected, moving LocalPlayer::doUpdateMotion() to its own .cxx file reveals that it is just that function that needs -O1 to fix the "sealed" problem. |
| 17:51.32 | BulletCatcher | I tried changing the "compute actual velocities" block of code to used doubles, but it didn't make a difference. |
| 17:51.58 | BulletCatcher | I'll try other things later. |
| 17:52.02 | JefferyM | yeah that's the guts of movement and collisions |
| 17:52.47 | JefferyM | it may just have to do with the supper thin boxes that were used to fix the mesh problem |
| 17:53.04 | JefferyM | I don't mind telling people they have to remove workarounds for 3.0 |
| 17:53.39 | BulletCatcher | Yeah. But at this point there is a bug in the code, and I am determined to find it. :-) |
| 17:53.44 | JefferyM | ok |
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| 17:54.02 | JefferyM | it's probalby after the "try teleport" part |
| 17:54.19 | JefferyM | thats where we zoop them to the dest, and then try to collide them with the world there |
| 17:55.25 | JefferyM | I looked at the tolerances used in that section, they should be fine |
| 17:55.31 | JefferyM | 0.001 is fine for a unit normal |
| 17:55.38 | JefferyM | and 0.001 is fine for a z step for bumps |
| 17:57.30 | BulletCatcher | The LaserMania map has the destination thin box at Z=30.000001, and I'm not sure that the float type has enough precsion to distinguish that from exactly 30. |
| 17:57.47 | BulletCatcher | I'll do a test. |
| 17:57.57 | JefferyM | oh wow |
| 17:58.03 | JefferyM | yeah that far out is pretty silly |
| 17:58.26 | JefferyM | we could probably get away with rounding maps to 0.001 on input |
| 17:58.56 | JefferyM | I'd say that's a map problem, not a software problem |
| 17:59.21 | JefferyM | since there is only so much we can do with bad input |
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| 18:40.52 | Will07c5 | ok while there are a few things left to do in the bzwb menus, I really think making sure the objects work is more important |
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| 18:41.47 | Will07c5 | mesh is the only object as far as I know that doesn't work, but I still want to check all the others against the "official bzw spec" |
| 18:41.56 | Will07c5 | which I guess means looking at the bzflag code |
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| 19:23.33 | spldart | I'm getting a bunch of errors with ftgzip.c in them |
| 19:23.52 | spldart | freetype? |
| 19:25.35 | Mets1 | on trunk? |
| 19:26.25 | spldart | yep |
| 19:26.45 | Mets1 | I am also getting errors with trunk when I compile - it complains about libcurl.dll not being found. I've had this problem before, and it was due to freetype also |
| 19:27.01 | spldart | It's a fresh install on my work pc. debian lenny. I've hit up all the same dependencies that I did on my last to installs at home but this error is unique to this one.. dunno why |
| 19:27.18 | Mets1 | what's the resolution? |
| 19:27.39 | spldart | 1024x768 here and one at home.. the other at home is 1920x1080 |
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| 19:28.47 | Mets | hmm, well fwiw here's the chat log from my issue about a year ago with freetype: http://ibot.rikers.org/%23bzflag/20080528.html.gz |
| 19:28.48 | spldart | That question does prompt me to say I have not properly and completely configured my xorg.conf yet... No all resolutions are supported on this old monitor I'm on now. |
| 19:28.58 | spldart | thanks |
| 19:29.19 | Mets | I post it only because I just got the exact same error trying to compile with trunk today, maybe it's related |
| 19:30.03 | spldart | hrmMMmm |
| 19:30.31 | Mets | methinks maybe somebody was playing with the glphs |
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| 19:49.08 | Mets | hmm, so my msvc debugger gave me the error "no fonts found (the -directory option may help). Exiting" |
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| 19:50.02 | Mets | and I just updated to the latest revision, so I'll guess something in freetype might have changed? |
| 19:51.13 | JefferyM | Mets, no just set your working dir properly |
| 19:51.27 | JefferyM | it can't find the data dir |
| 19:54.02 | JefferyM | you are probalby debuging the exe that is in the build dir, you want to debug the version that we copy to the root of the soruce tree |
| 19:54.08 | JefferyM | that has the DLLs and data you need |
| 19:54.49 | Mets | JefferyM: my working dir is set to where the exe aka /trunk/bzflag |
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| 19:54.56 | Mets | *is |
| 19:55.16 | JefferyM | there are 2 lines there, the working dir and the debug command |
| 19:55.19 | JefferyM | what are they each set to? |
| 19:56.08 | Mets | working dir is set to the directory where the exe and libcurl.dll is, debugger type is set to auto |
| 19:56.44 | JefferyM | no the debug command |
| 19:56.56 | JefferyM | first line on the debug page |
| 19:57.06 | Mets | $(TargetPath) |
| 19:57.10 | JefferyM | that's your problem |
| 19:57.15 | JefferyM | change that to the exe that is in the root |
| 19:57.45 | JefferyM | the data dir search dosn't use the working dir, it uses the exe location |
| 19:58.47 | Mets | ah ok, thanks that's better :) |
| 19:59.37 | JefferyM | the windows readme mentions that under the**Running and Debugging** section |
| 19:59.52 | Mets | yeah I had it all set, then I upgraded to 2008 |
| 20:00.12 | Mets | I guess it didn't keep the settings, and I haven't had a compile problem so I've just been blindly running the exe |
| 20:00.34 | JefferyM | it's not store with the compier,or the project |
| 20:00.50 | JefferyM | it's in your temp file in the proejt file |
| 20:00.53 | JefferyM | the one with your username |
| 20:01.37 | JefferyM | so it actualy gets changed each time you get a new source tree or anything |
| 20:02.02 | SpazzyMcGee | who runs those new bzjp.org servers? |
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| 20:02.59 | Mets | ok, here's my callstack from the actual problem: http://pastebin.bzflag.bz/m1c63b472 |
| 20:03.41 | JefferyM | what is the actual error the debuger gives you? |
| 20:04.54 | temp_work | SpazzyMcGee, looks like "mihiro" or "Mai-chan" have used the same IP as bzjp.org |
| 20:06.30 | Mets | JefferyM: it says Debug assertation failed, expression (standard C++ libraries out of range, 0), xtree line 385 |
| 20:06.53 | JefferyM | what were you doing when that happened? |
| 20:07.53 | Mets | I was trying to load the server list |
| 20:07.57 | JefferyM | k |
| 20:08.13 | JefferyM | do you want to try and debug it? |
| 20:08.35 | Mets | sure |
| 20:08.51 | JefferyM | set a breakpoint at the start of ServerMenu::playingCB and step thru till it dies |
| 20:11.25 | Mets | ok just died |
| 20:11.36 | Mets | right as I hit the enter button on find server |
| 20:11.55 | JefferyM | did you set a breakpoint tho? did you see data on the line that it died on? |
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| 20:14.36 | Mets | sorry, wifi got me - http://pastebin.bzflag.bz/m6e62eafa |
| 20:20.13 | JefferyM | a log dump like that won't do it |
| 20:20.25 | JefferyM | you need to see what actual varialbles are bad |
| 20:20.46 | me1 | SpazzyMcGee, "mihiro"/"Mai-chan" does indeed run those, he requested groups for them |
| 20:20.49 | JefferyM | you need to step thru the code |
| 20:20.56 | JefferyM | it's ok, I'll check it out |
| 20:21.08 | SpazzyMcGee | yeah, i'm talking to one of the people that made the map |
| 20:21.52 | JefferyM | SpazzyMcGee, is there a problem with the server? |
| 20:22.14 | SpazzyMcGee | JefferyM: the bzjp.org server? |
| 20:22.33 | JefferyM | you haven't mentioned any other servers ;) |
| 20:22.39 | temp_work | no problem, JefferyM |
| 20:22.40 | SpazzyMcGee | Well, it's saturated with lag... does that count as a problem? |
| 20:22.47 | JefferyM | nope |
| 20:23.05 | JefferyM | it's probably in austrilai |
| 20:23.09 | JefferyM | australia |
| 20:23.19 | SpazzyMcGee | It needs better hosting, and there are people with the resources to provide it |
| 20:23.24 | JefferyM | or the new zeland |
| 20:23.26 | SpazzyMcGee | It's on a home connection in japan |
| 20:23.30 | JefferyM | eww |
| 20:23.33 | SpazzyMcGee | yep |
| 20:23.41 | JefferyM | tho japan usualy has good bandwith |
| 20:24.07 | SpazzyMcGee | It's only just coping with a packed server. |
| 20:24.15 | SpazzyMcGee | but not well |
| 20:24.55 | JefferyM | what license is the map under? |
| 20:27.53 | joevano | JefferyM: closed, hasn't been released yet |
| 20:27.56 | JefferyM | oh yeah. I see the problem |
| 20:28.14 | JefferyM | Mets, it's a bug it needs to be fixed |
| 20:28.22 | JefferyM | bad itterators |
| 20:28.24 | JefferyM | joevano, fun |
| 20:30.10 | Mets | roger that, sorry I wasn't of more help |
| 20:30.36 | JefferyM | you got close, that's good enough :) |
| 20:30.58 | Mets | thanks, if you need anything else let me know, I'll be here |
| 20:31.26 | JefferyM | naw, I see the problem |
| 20:31.36 | JefferyM | deletion from a map in the middle of itterating it |
| 20:32.51 | Mets | funny, the last 3-4 times i've compiled trunk everything was peachy, I forgot I didn't even have the debugger setup right |
| 20:33.23 | JefferyM | you probalby just double clicked the exe in the root to run |
| 20:33.34 | Mets | yeah, and it ran fine, didn't think anything of it heh |
| 20:33.42 | JefferyM | sure |
| 20:33.46 | JefferyM | the problem wasn't your build |
| 20:33.50 | JefferyM | but how the debuger was set up |
| 20:33.57 | JefferyM | debuging is not the same as double clicking |
| 20:34.11 | JefferyM | building actualy makes 2 bzflag.exe files |
| 20:34.18 | JefferyM | one in the target dir, and one in the root |
| 20:36.04 | Mets | right, I remember doing this a year ago or so, that was the last time I ran the debugger for bzflag |
| 20:37.02 | Mets | you politely reminded me to rtfm, and I forgot about the 2 exe files :p |
| 20:37.22 | Mets | so my fault :) |
| 20:38.47 | CIA-60 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r19843 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzflag/ServerMenu.cxx: a cleaner method of deleting items from the ping list that doesn't crash. |
| 20:38.51 | JefferyM | that should fix it |
| 20:39.34 | JefferyM | it was basicaly calling ++ on an iterator that pointed to a deleted item |
| 20:52.06 | Mets | yup, works, on norang now |
| 20:58.54 | JefferyM | good |
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| 21:30.08 | Wyk3d | brlcad: for getting bzauthd to work with the unix buildsystem i should look for m4 files containing tests for each library i've added (put them all in the m4 directory), modify configure.ac and make it work like curl and others, do the test and if failed, build the one in the sources, then add the --enable options to each library, add each lib to the --enable-all-builds, add the libs to the build result messages .. and ofcourse makefile changes but those |
| 21:30.11 | Wyk3d | ? |
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| 23:56.54 | Hairy_Ballsack | WHO THE FUCK GAVE THINK TANK ADMIN POWERS? |
| 23:57.19 | Hairy_Ballsack | FUCKERS |
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