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| 00:48.53 | trepan | delusional: driveThrough/shootThrough on tele faces |
| 00:49.27 | delusional | yeah, i see you were there.. getting ready for something new. |
| 00:50.37 | delusional | ?don't use inside points? i think not. |
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| 01:03.08 | delusional | Yeah.. got something working now, trepan |
| 01:03.24 | delusional | thnx for that help. |
| 01:04.16 | delusional | hmm, shots get moved in Z |
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| 02:11.57 | Will07c5 | JeffM: I have been looking at fltk as well as some other toolkits and I think it could be beneficial to switch. while currently fltk is sufficient, I'm thinking in the long run using fltk will probably result in needing to reinvent the wheel more (since it has less features than other toolkits). |
| 02:12.24 | JeffM | what would you recomend swaping to? |
| 02:13.09 | Will07c5 | well I haven't had much time to look at others but wxwidgets seemed nice, qt is nice too but I don't like the need for an additional preprocessor |
| 02:13.38 | JeffM | they all have the same OS support? |
| 02:14.00 | Will07c5 | they all support linux, mac os x and windows |
| 02:14.28 | JeffM | isn't QT not free or something? |
| 02:14.34 | Will07c5 | it is LGPL |
| 02:14.46 | JeffM | but it needs a preprocessor? |
| 02:14.51 | Will07c5 | it used to be not free |
| 02:15.11 | Will07c5 | yeah |
| 02:15.18 | JeffM | then throw that one out :) |
| 02:15.26 | JeffM | how long do you think it will add to the proejct to switch? |
| 02:16.16 | blast007 | preprocessor? |
| 02:16.57 | Will07c5 | well most of the dialog boxes don't actually have functionality right now so those probably wouldn't add time, so it would be just switch the main window over that would take extra time I think |
| 02:17.13 | Will07c5 | http://doc.trolltech.com/4.0/moc.html |
| 02:17.31 | blast007 | yeah, just found that link |
| 02:17.32 | blast007 | :) |
| 02:17.42 | Will07c5 | :) |
| 02:17.45 | JeffM | we don't have to use the C++ extenstions right? |
| 02:17.52 | JeffM | juse it C style |
| 02:18.19 | Will07c5 | I don't know |
| 02:18.40 | JeffM | well what does something like wx get us over FLTK? |
| 02:18.45 | JeffM | in the long run? |
| 02:19.27 | JeffM | I'm not adverse to changing, I just want to make sure we do it for the right reasons |
| 02:19.42 | Will07c5 | it gets us native widgets and dialog boxes, it also seems to have more widgets built in |
| 02:19.45 | TD-Linux | I like Qt |
| 02:19.55 | TD-Linux | in that it's one of the easiest ones I've used to write code in |
| 02:20.21 | JeffM | are there any widgets we need that FLTK dosn't have to get it running? |
| 02:20.34 | JeffM | and is wx a cleaner API then fltk? |
| 02:20.47 | JeffM | I mean I don't think our widget use is going to be that complex |
| 02:20.49 | TD-Linux | wx uses native widgets |
| 02:21.00 | JeffM | TD-Linux: but it wraps them |
| 02:21.04 | JeffM | that's the point of it ;) |
| 02:21.08 | TD-Linux | exactly |
| 02:21.18 | TD-Linux | FLTK draws them itself |
| 02:21.21 | JeffM | yeah |
| 02:21.36 | JeffM | having the editor look native isn't as big a concern as having it work ;) |
| 02:21.43 | Will07c5 | I haven't really done an in depth comparison between fltk and wx but wx seemed nice when I tried it |
| 02:21.50 | JeffM | k |
| 02:21.55 | TD-Linux | wx is kind of huge and slowish |
| 02:21.59 | TD-Linux | but it does work |
| 02:22.03 | TD-Linux | it also has some fancy macros to make tables |
| 02:22.07 | JeffM | TD-Linux: how about specifics |
| 02:22.15 | Will07c5 | I would probably do the switch before gsoc starts if possible |
| 02:22.16 | JeffM | instead of generalizations |
| 02:22.29 | JeffM | how is qt's GL support? |
| 02:22.41 | TD-Linux | Qt's GL is very good |
| 02:22.47 | TD-Linux | it can draw all of its widgets with GL even |
| 02:22.59 | TD-Linux | it has a special widget for GL |
| 02:23.00 | JeffM | and that matters... why? |
| 02:23.04 | blast007 | yeah, I had a working GL example in Qt |
| 02:23.07 | JeffM | we just need a window with it |
| 02:23.15 | JeffM | blast007: did you have to use a preprocessor? |
| 02:23.20 | blast007 | I can't remember |
| 02:23.24 | TD-Linux | you always have to use a preprocessor |
| 02:23.29 | TD-Linux | it's pretty transparent to you though |
| 02:23.39 | TD-Linux | it's basically like fancier macros |
| 02:23.41 | blast007 | I think I might have cheated and used their GUI tool to make the dialog |
| 02:23.51 | JeffM | TD-Linux: where "you" == someone using visual C++? |
| 02:24.13 | blast007 | JeffM: when I get home, I'll see if I can track down what I did |
| 02:24.17 | JeffM | ok |
| 02:24.30 | TD-Linux | wx has a comparable table system, except it uses standard C macros |
| 02:24.33 | JeffM | that page seemed to be about C++ extensions and object communication |
| 02:24.39 | JeffM | that dosn't sound like something you HAVE to use |
| 02:24.51 | JeffM | TD-Linux: I don't think we are going to use that many tables ;) |
| 02:25.01 | TD-Linux | you have to use the tables |
| 02:25.02 | JeffM | it's a map editor not an office app |
| 02:25.12 | JeffM | then what do you call a "table"? |
| 02:25.13 | TD-Linux | they are basically tables of callbacks |
| 02:25.19 | JeffM | ahh |
| 02:25.28 | TD-Linux | and/or links to other widgets |
| 02:25.37 | TD-Linux | actually Qt's preprocessor has much the same purpose |
| 02:25.40 | blast007 | a sorta neat feature of Qt is that is also include webkit, so we could embed the wiki ;) |
| 02:25.42 | JeffM | we mostly just need dialog boxes with stuff in em |
| 02:26.00 | TD-Linux | a "signal" is something that can create a callback, a "slot" is the callback function |
| 02:26.01 | blast007 | (well, embed a browser that views the wiki..) |
| 02:26.29 | JeffM | TD-Linux: sounds overly complex for what we are doing |
| 02:26.34 | TD-Linux | not really |
| 02:27.17 | JeffM | I don't mind sticking with fltk for now, just to get the basics going |
| 02:27.17 | JeffM | most of the work is going to be our own 3d edit stuff |
| 02:27.17 | JeffM | the dialog work will be minimal |
| 02:27.17 | JeffM | so changing later is an option |
| 02:27.24 | TD-Linux | my experience with GUIs (not too much, I guess) is that the simple stuff can still get annoying if you have a lot of it |
| 02:27.37 | TD-Linux | GTK+ is scary :S |
| 02:27.37 | JeffM | and I say stay with FLTK if changing is going to slow the actual work down at all |
| 02:27.47 | JeffM | GTK is fine |
| 02:27.54 | JeffM | I've used it quite easaly |
| 02:28.07 | JeffM | we are also not talking about redoing it from scratch |
| 02:28.11 | JeffM | it has to be a quick move |
| 02:28.26 | JeffM | cus if we were gonna do it from scratch, C# that sucker :) |
| 02:28.26 | TD-Linux | I don't know what FLTK's API is like |
| 02:28.27 | trepan | what happened with using blender as a bz mapping program, too complicated? not complete? |
| 02:28.38 | TD-Linux | noone knows how to do it? |
| 02:28.39 | JeffM | trepan: users didn't "get" it |
| 02:28.39 | Will07c5 | yeah I would want to get it done asap if we switch |
| 02:28.44 | JeffM | it's basicly overkill |
| 02:29.04 | TD-Linux | overkill is better than not enough :P |
| 02:29.04 | JeffM | so yeah too complicated |
| 02:29.11 | JeffM | TD-Linux: no.. no it isn't |
| 02:29.17 | JeffM | as our users have shown |
| 02:29.22 | JeffM | people still use bzedit |
| 02:29.26 | JeffM | cus they can understand it |
| 02:29.33 | JeffM | and manualy edit in the few things they want |
| 02:29.43 | trepan | bets wings3d would have been the better path for that one; but ew, erlang |
| 02:30.05 | JeffM | possibly, but I think an object layout tool is not a bad thing to have |
| 02:30.15 | JeffM | specialy as a student project |
| 02:30.50 | JeffM | Will07c5: do you think you can complete your goals using FLTK? |
| 02:30.58 | JeffM | or will you spend a lot of time making widgets? |
| 02:31.13 | Will07c5 | the goals are pretty simple so yes |
| 02:31.23 | JeffM | ok |
| 02:31.48 | Will07c5 | I think the switch should only be done if I can finish it before the beginning of gsoc |
| 02:32.03 | JeffM | remember, you arn't working alone |
| 02:32.08 | JeffM | all of us can work on it as well |
| 02:32.20 | Will07c5 | yeah |
| 02:32.31 | JeffM | but the additional requirment is that the switch make sense and not impose any other limitations. |
| 02:33.47 | Will07c5 | true |
| 02:35.11 | JeffM | if your work is abstracted enough into a good doc/view/editor system, then changing the toolkit should not be too hard later |
| 02:36.18 | Will07c5 | that is also true, I was more thinking along the lines of would it be easier to do the switch beforehand even though it is certainly possible to do it later |
| 02:36.31 | JeffM | easy is relitive |
| 02:36.39 | JeffM | less lines of code changed, probably |
| 02:36.45 | JeffM | but we have that window for your project |
| 02:36.49 | JeffM | and that can't move |
| 02:37.07 | JeffM | there is also the fact that changing means adding bugs related to the change |
| 02:37.19 | JeffM | where we know the FLTK code has had at least some review |
| 02:37.56 | JeffM | mostly I wanted you to do the research to see if there were any glaring problems with FLTK and be a little familar with it |
| 02:38.14 | JeffM | and there dosn't seem to be any "OH GOD" things you've brought forward |
| 02:38.20 | TD-Linux | I personally would only switch to wx or qt, because I have a personal grudge against non-native-drawing toolkits :P |
| 02:38.36 | Will07c5 | qt doesn't natively draw :P |
| 02:39.10 | JeffM | TD-Linux: good thing you arn't the student then |
| 02:39.17 | TD-Linux | Will07c5: yes it does |
| 02:39.26 | TD-Linux | since qt 4.0 |
| 02:39.56 | Will07c5 | hmm... I guess I was misinformed |
| 02:40.26 | Will07c5 | but yeah fltk isn't horrible, it just isn't amazing |
| 02:40.41 | JeffM | I didn't mentor the first workbench project, so I'm not that famliar with FLTK, I just don't want it to get in your way |
| 02:41.16 | TD-Linux | does it have decent automatic layout stuff? basic things like horizonal and vertical arrangement |
| 02:41.40 | JeffM | I don't think we are going to do much that feature even if it did |
| 02:41.46 | TD-Linux | that's generally the most important part because otherwise your waste time manually tweaking pixel positions and weird tables and stuff |
| 02:42.07 | JeffM | what "wierd tables" would we use? |
| 02:42.18 | TD-Linux | grid layouts and such |
| 02:42.31 | JeffM | and those would be used in a map editor where? |
| 02:42.38 | TD-Linux | though if it has grid layouts it probably has horizonal and vertical layout generators so maybe that is a non-issue |
| 02:42.54 | TD-Linux | pretty much all of your editing widgets? |
| 02:43.07 | JeffM | so it can't do a fixed size dialog? |
| 02:43.25 | JeffM | the items for an object are pretty much fixed |
| 02:43.35 | JeffM | or at most have a list of flags/options etc.. |
| 02:43.39 | JeffM | maybe for a material editor |
| 02:43.51 | JeffM | but the goal for this round isn't to make it purdy |
| 02:43.55 | JeffM | just functional |
| 02:44.03 | TD-Linux | you wouldn't need them then I guess, but then a GUI editor for the GUI would be preferable |
| 02:44.15 | TD-Linux | tweaking coordinates in code isn't very fun |
| 02:44.21 | Will07c5 | FLTK has an ok GUI editor |
| 02:45.30 | JeffM | qt installs it's own copy of mingw.. WTF??? |
| 02:45.49 | TD-Linux | what qt installer is this? |
| 02:45.54 | TD-Linux | anyway I thought it compiled in VC++ |
| 02:45.58 | Will07c5 | Qt has its own IDE so it probably uses that to compile |
| 02:45.59 | JeffM | the one on the site |
| 02:46.46 | TD-Linux | oh you got the SDK |
| 02:46.56 | TD-Linux | Will07c5: no, it doesn't use the IDE |
| 02:47.01 | TD-Linux | the IDE is actually brand new |
| 02:47.08 | Will07c5 | I know the IDE is brand new |
| 02:47.10 | TD-Linux | you want the Framework only for VC++ support |
| 02:47.24 | TD-Linux | you can use makefiles, cmake (like KDE does) or qmake which generates makefiles |
| 02:47.30 | JeffM | and that isn't installed by default? |
| 02:47.31 | TD-Linux | or any other build system if you have the patience for it |
| 02:47.45 | TD-Linux | no, the package you got has a bunch of extras |
| 02:47.49 | TD-Linux | the compiler and all |
| 02:47.53 | JeffM | strike 1 |
| 02:48.15 | TD-Linux | oh wait that's mingw too, I fail right now |
| 02:48.34 | TD-Linux | alright then if you don't want to use Qt then just don't :P |
| 02:48.36 | JeffM | cus you know I figured the button named "download free qt sdk" would you know.. have an SDK in it |
| 02:49.15 | Will07c5 | I downloaded the SDK and it seemed to have everything necessary |
| 02:49.43 | JeffM | did it have samples? |
| 02:50.01 | Will07c5 | yes |
| 02:50.09 | JeffM | where? |
| 02:50.16 | Will07c5 | let me check |
| 02:51.31 | JeffM | and on what OS? |
| 02:52.15 | Will07c5 | I was checking on my laptop which is windows but I think I installed it on a different computer |
| 02:52.25 | TD-Linux | http://geeks.netindonesia.net/blogs/risman/archive/2009/04/02/qt-4-5-with-visual-studio-2008-vc-express.aspx |
| 02:52.30 | Will07c5 | probably the windows partition on this computer |
| 02:52.40 | Will07c5 | and I don't feel like restarting |
| 02:52.47 | JeffM | nice note at the bottom of the page, "*Based on MinGW (download sources) tool set. Does not support VS compiler." |
| 02:52.55 | TD-Linux | except it does |
| 02:53.07 | JeffM | not for the sdk package |
| 02:53.08 | TD-Linux | you just need to download the source version and compile VS compatable binaries |
| 02:53.16 | JeffM | yeah.......... |
| 02:53.17 | TD-Linux | remember the binaries are differnet formats |
| 02:53.22 | JeffM | I know |
| 02:53.28 | TD-Linux | I don't know why they didn't include both :? |
| 02:53.34 | TD-Linux | it does include all the VC++ projects |
| 02:53.42 | JeffM | it's not like you can't get a free version of VC easy enough |
| 02:53.48 | Will07c5 | it takes forever to compile Qt |
| 02:54.01 | JeffM | on how many cores? |
| 02:54.06 | Will07c5 | 2 cores |
| 02:54.11 | JeffM | add more ;) |
| 02:54.30 | Will07c5 | maybe when I get gsoc money :P |
| 02:54.35 | Will07c5 | right now I'm broke |
| 02:55.19 | TD-Linux | disable all the stuff you don't need I suppose |
| 02:55.31 | TD-Linux | disabling webkit would probably help out a bit :P |
| 02:56.50 | JeffM | downlods another 130megs |
| 02:57.08 | Will07c5 | I think I remember why it took so long, I was compiling on a vmware vm |
| 02:58.11 | Will07c5 | so it should be faster if you don't do that :P |
| 02:58.18 | JeffM | well it ain't a small package |
| 02:58.24 | JeffM | the SDK installers are like 160 megs |
| 02:58.30 | JeffM | source is 130 |
| 02:59.30 | JeffM | likes that the web page touts 'visual studio integration' as a feature, but then sees that they don't actualy provide anything that does it :) |
| 03:01.59 | Will07c5 | hmm.. now I need to actually get bzworkbench to compile on linux, got it to compile on windows just fine |
| 03:02.29 | JeffM | did you get a premade bin of OSG or build it? |
| 03:02.42 | Will07c5 | premade |
| 03:02.46 | Will07c5 | it is complaining about memcpy not being declared |
| 03:06.16 | JeffM | k |
| 03:06.22 | JeffM | OSGs build system is odd |
| 03:09.00 | JeffM | nope, no vc pojects |
| 03:09.13 | JeffM | just instructons to build with nmake from the commandline |
| 03:09.40 | Will07c5 | yeah I remember doing that |
| 03:10.00 | JeffM | strike seven |
| 03:10.02 | Will07c5 | I actually think it does generate vc projects at some point |
| 03:10.13 | Will07c5 | I just found using the command line was simpler |
| 03:10.14 | JeffM | instructions just say it makes libs |
| 03:10.55 | JeffM | well I'd rather stick with what we have cus we know it works, if we can't find anything major wrong with it |
| 03:11.28 | Will07c5 | yeah well as you said we can always switch later |
| 03:11.43 | JeffM | but good job doing the quick eval :) |
| 03:11.55 | Will07c5 | and after the summer we should have a much better idea of whether or not fltk should be used |
| 03:11.57 | JeffM | do you feel a little more in touch with the code? |
| 03:11.58 | Will07c5 | thanks :) |
| 03:12.34 | Will07c5 | a little, still need to get it to compile on linux :P |
| 03:13.59 | Will07c5 | one thing is do you want me to commit my updated vcproj file for bzworkbench since I remember I needed to edit the vcproj a bit to get it to compile |
| 03:14.12 | JeffM | hell yeah |
| 03:14.44 | Will07c5 | I think it still is missing some of the headers so I'll just fix that first |
| 03:14.57 | JeffM | k |
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| 03:18.20 | Will07c5 | hmm since I have VC9 I guess I'll just make another folder |
| 03:18.26 | JeffM | naw |
| 03:18.32 | JeffM | just upgrade/change the old ones |
| 03:18.39 | JeffM | no need for multiple support |
| 03:19.05 | Will07c5 | well I would think having VC9 projects under the VC8 project would be confusing :P |
| 03:19.14 | JeffM | rename the dir to just MSVC |
| 03:19.17 | JeffM | not VC8 |
| 03:19.22 | Will07c5 | ok |
| 03:19.25 | JeffM | it's what we did for BZ |
| 03:19.43 | JeffM | we used to have VC71,VC80, and VC90 dirs and that was just silly |
| 03:19.51 | JeffM | since VC9 is free, screw it :) |
| 03:21.33 | TD-Linux | JeffM, you mean the Visual Studio plugin for integration |
| 03:21.50 | JeffM | TD-Linux: I don't know what tehy were saying, I could never find it ;) |
| 03:22.03 | TD-Linux | sounds like FLTK it is then |
| 03:22.28 | JeffM | untill there is a truely compelling reason to swap, yeah |
| 03:24.12 | JeffM | looks like the paid QT people get a lot better support |
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| 03:46.13 | blast007 | JeffM: oh yeah, the build system was a bit funky with Qt |
| 03:46.27 | blast007 | sees makefiles in his QtTest application.. |
| 03:46.29 | blast007 | ..on windows |
| 03:46.39 | blast007 | though I do have a .sln too |
| 03:46.47 | JeffM | looks like it uses nmake to make them |
| 03:46.50 | blast007 | but I think I had to run some command line thing |
| 03:46.51 | blast007 | yeah |
| 03:46.57 | blast007 | or qmake |
| 03:47.25 | JeffM | BZWB already has one lib with a wakass build system, it dosn't need 2 :) |
| 03:47.34 | blast007 | hehe |
| 03:53.44 | Will07c5 | in BZWBAPI.cpp there are some functions defined as dllimport functions but they have bodies so are they supposed to be dllexport? (since dllimport generates errors) |
| 03:53.53 | Will07c5 | doesn't know much about dllimport and dllexport |
| 03:54.11 | JeffM | looks |
| 03:55.00 | JeffM | it should be done as a #def or something |
| 03:55.07 | JeffM | gets code |
| 03:55.20 | Will07c5 | well it is |
| 03:55.32 | JeffM | if it's building in side of workbench it should be export |
| 03:55.41 | JeffM | if outside of workbench import |
| 03:56.24 | Will07c5 | I think it should be building inside |
| 03:56.53 | Will07c5 | maybe INSIDE_BZWB should be defined |
| 03:57.01 | JeffM | that should be in the project file |
| 03:57.11 | Will07c5 | I know |
| 03:58.03 | JeffM | you on linux or windows? |
| 03:58.20 | JeffM | cus it looks like the windows project (for vc8) is missing stuff |
| 03:58.31 | Will07c5 | yeah that is what I'm fixing |
| 03:58.44 | JeffM | yeah the proejct should define the inside macro |
| 03:58.44 | Will07c5 | I'm actually on both |
| 03:58.59 | JeffM | then plugins don't define it, and get the export |
| 03:59.13 | Will07c5 | ok |
| 03:59.25 | Will07c5 | thanks |
| 03:59.42 | JeffM | that way you can use the same .h file for both |
| 03:59.46 | JeffM | and it works out |
| 04:00.08 | JeffM | what you should do for the project files is get rid of the vc71 dir |
| 04:00.19 | JeffM | move the projects to the msvc dir |
| 04:00.23 | JeffM | and get rid of the vc8 dir |
| 04:00.28 | JeffM | then we just have one in a msvc dir |
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| 04:02.14 | Will07c5 | ok hopefully that works |
| 04:02.49 | JeffM | did you update the paths in it? |
| 04:02.56 | Will07c5 | yes |
| 04:03.12 | JeffM | looks good |
| 04:04.11 | Will07c5 | great :) |
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| 05:18.16 | CIA-60 | BZFlag: 03trepan * r19751 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzflag/SceneRenderer.cxx: * simplified the debugLinkDraw code (same functionality) |
| 05:24.23 | Yassen | what's the difference between isRegistered and isVerified ? |
| 05:24.34 | JeffM | registered means the name is registered |
| 05:24.45 | JeffM | verified means the user has a valid token |
| 05:24.48 | JeffM | they are not the same thing |
| 05:25.01 | JeffM | if I join as Yassen, the name is registered |
| 05:25.14 | JeffM | but I am not verified because I do not know your password so I don't get a valid token |
| 05:25.53 | Yassen | okay, so if isRegistered is true, but isVerified is false, then the player has a "-" next to their name and if they are both true, then they have a "+" |
| 05:26.01 | JeffM | yes |
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| 05:39.25 | CIA-60 | BZFlag: 03trepan * r19752 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzflag/SceneRenderer.cxx: * draw special connection points for self links (for debugLinkDraw) |
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| 06:48.15 | CIA-60 | BZFlag: 03trepan * r19753 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzflag/playing.cxx: |
| 06:48.17 | CIA-60 | BZFlag: * added the 'clampMouse' BZDB variable, and associated feature |
| 06:48.19 | CIA-60 | BZFlag: - cursor is clamped to the mouse box, but only when the player |
| 06:48.21 | CIA-60 | BZFlag: is not dead, not paused, and is not observing (ie: active) |
| 06:48.23 | CIA-60 | BZFlag: - pressing the CONTROL key overrides the mouse box clamp |
| 06:48.27 | CIA-60 | BZFlag: (so that you can move the mouse about freely) |
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| 06:51.00 | Constitution | ~trepan++ |
| 06:56.49 | CIA-60 | BZFlag: 03trepan * r19754 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzflag/playing.cxx: * renamed 'clampMouse' to 'mouseClamp' |
| 06:57.12 | trepan | it looks better when 'fakecursor' is also enabled |
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| 07:36.43 | CIA-60 | BZFlag: 03trepan * r19755 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzflag/playing.cxx: * alternate 'fakecursor' style (set fakecursor to >= 2) |
| 07:48.48 | CIA-60 | BZFlag: 03trepan * r19756 10/trunk/bzflag/src/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 07:48.48 | CIA-60 | BZFlag: * removed the 'useDrawInfo' bzdb var (drawInfos are always used) |
| 07:48.49 | CIA-60 | BZFlag: * removed the unused 'flagLists' bzdb var |
| 08:33.16 | jcp | ~trepan++ |
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| 16:07.23 | CIA-60 | BZFlag: 03bullet_catcher * r19757 10/trunk/bzflag/include/ (Factory.h bzfsAPI.h): Tell the vi editor to use BZFlag standard column and tab settings. |
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| 17:31.54 | *** topic/#bzflag is http://cia.vc/stats/project/BZFlag || http://my.BZFlag.org/w/Getting_Help || Channel Logs: http://ibot.rikers.org/%23bzflag/ || http://ohloh.net/projects/189 || Latest Release: 2.0.12 (linux), 2.0.10 (everyone else) || GSoC 2009 Accepted Applications http://socghop.appspot.com/org/home/google/gsoc2009/bzflag |
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| 17:46.26 | dexter- | ~mp |
| 17:46.26 | ibot | methinks mp is Northern Mariana Islands |
| 17:46.32 | dexter- | :( |
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| 18:13.33 | dexter- | whats the setting that kicks players for moving too fast? |
| 18:13.36 | dexter- | how can i turn that one off again? |
| 18:14.31 | temp_work | speed kicks are turned off if there is a physicsdriver on the map |
| 18:14.56 | dexter- | isn't there a way to turn it off in the config? |
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| 18:27.12 | JefferyM | you set the speed tolerance to a big number |
| 18:29.10 | ts | JefferyM: He's gone |
| 18:29.11 | ts | :) |
| 18:42.00 | temp_work | JefferyM, what is the setting that he'd change? |
| 18:42.10 | Carnage00 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:42.13 | Carnage00 | ? |
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| 19:15.14 | JefferyM | probably |
| 19:22.07 | dexter- | JefferyM, is there a specific setting that kicks players 'for moving too fast"? |
| 19:23.26 | blast007 | -speedtol |
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| 19:57.23 | JefferyM | driveby questions suck |
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| 22:27.06 | me1 | When I create a server tab, then delete it, if the top tab isn't selected (like if a server is highlighted), you cannot switch tabs, or navigate at all throug hthe "create a new tab" menu you are brought to. You can still press esape, but going back into the "join servers" menu gives you the same menu |
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| 23:23.39 | dexter- | Carnage00, ping |
| 23:24.29 | Carnage00 | yo |
| 23:24.32 | Carnage00 | sry broski |
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