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| 02:54.31 | CIA-60 | BZFlag: 03trepan * r19708 10/trunk/bzflag/ (135 files in 14 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 02:54.31 | CIA-60 | BZFlag: * bumped BZ_PROTO_VERSION to 0080, and BZ_REV to 22 |
| 02:54.32 | CIA-60 | BZFlag: * made map text objects 'groupable' |
| 02:54.32 | CIA-60 | BZFlag: * made map link objects 'groupable' (absolute linkage availabe from within groups) |
| 02:54.32 | CIA-60 | BZFlag: * made MeshFaces capable of being team bases (but only faces with +z normals) |
| 02:54.34 | CIA-60 | BZFlag: * made MeshFaces capable of being teleport link sources and destinations |
| 02:54.36 | CIA-60 | BZFlag: * added link and base faces to the RadarRenderer |
| 02:54.44 | trepan | delusional: try that out with standard teles ;-) |
| 02:55.50 | trepan | updates the 'clean' dir to see what he missed this time ... |
| 02:57.27 | trepan | forgot to note that the 'rico-enabled / shot-over-the-wall' problem where it generated 100 path segments also got fixed |
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| 05:07.16 | hwilde | anybody awake ? |
| 05:07.31 | hwilde | $ ./bzflag |
| 05:07.32 | hwilde | No fonts found (the -directory option may help). Exiting |
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| 05:07.54 | trepan | (the -directory option may help) |
| 05:08.05 | hwilde | I never used that before |
| 05:08.10 | hwilde | where are the fonts? |
| 05:08.23 | hwilde | I just upgraded to ubuntu 9.04 and remade and it has just been screaming errors at me :/ |
| 05:08.40 | trepan | what errors? |
| 05:08.50 | hwilde | can't find this, can't find that... typical stuff |
| 05:08.59 | hwilde | it makes now, but can't find fonts ? |
| 05:09.29 | trepan | did you 'make install' ? |
| 05:09.43 | hwilde | yes |
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| 05:10.10 | trepan | and where did it install to? |
| 05:10.29 | hwilde | test -z "/usr/local/bin" || /bin/mkdir -p "/usr/local/bin" |
| 05:10.29 | hwilde | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:10.29 | hwilde | /usr/bin/install -c bzflag /usr/local/bin/bzflag |
| 05:11.16 | trepan | so far, so good; scan the log for 'font' |
| 05:12.17 | hwilde | log ? |
| 05:12.31 | JeffM | the build log |
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| 05:13.11 | hwilde | everything was successful except a few warnings: |
| 05:13.12 | hwilde | gnoring return value of âsize_t fread(void*, size_t, size_t, FILE*)â, declared with attribute warn_unused_result |
| 05:13.38 | JeffM | you did the install as sudo? |
| 05:13.54 | hwilde | yep |
| 05:14.11 | hwilde | otherwise it doesn't have permission |
| 05:14.16 | JeffM | indeed |
| 05:14.24 | JeffM | the fonts are in the data dir |
| 05:14.35 | JeffM | with the textures |
| 05:14.46 | JeffM | we load fonts first so they are the first to fail if we can't find the data dir |
| 05:15.01 | JeffM | and you can't find your data dir |
| 05:16.14 | hwilde | where is it supposed to be ? |
| 05:17.30 | hwilde | all fonts are made... |
| 05:17.37 | JeffM | one of the share dirs |
| 05:17.43 | JeffM | don't recall exactly where |
| 05:17.55 | JeffM | look for caution.png, that'll be in the same place :) |
| 05:18.01 | hwilde | oo wait |
| 05:18.17 | hwilde | ~/bzflag-2.0.12/data$ sudo make install |
| 05:18.22 | hwilde | this is good |
| 05:18.32 | hwilde | but I lost all of my profile :/ like my radar settings |
| 05:18.41 | JeffM | that was in your home dir |
| 05:18.44 | JeffM | .bzf |
| 05:18.48 | JeffM | in your config |
| 05:19.27 | hwilde | wow that's a lot of stuff |
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| 05:20.18 | hwilde | oh 499M of screenshots will do that |
| 05:20.32 | JeffM | ahhh, a wall walker |
| 05:20.58 | hwilde | you know the map called Incoming ? |
| 05:21.02 | JeffM | nope |
| 05:21.15 | hwilde | well you can bust out of the walls there |
| 05:21.22 | hwilde | and I wanted to bust through the ceiling |
| 05:21.25 | hwilde | but never could |
| 05:21.29 | JeffM | abbusing F5 like that is not cool |
| 05:21.30 | hwilde | it has the launchpads you know ? |
| 05:22.10 | hwilde | there is a difference between exploring the edges of the game and abusing f5 to gain advantage |
| 05:22.28 | TkTech | launchpads are almost always buggy |
| 05:22.28 | JeffM | riiiiiggghhhhttttttttt |
| 05:22.39 | TkTech | the ones on missile wars and bloodbath can both be exploited |
| 05:22.51 | JeffM | the line between those is VERY VERY thin |
| 05:23.01 | hwilde | if you F5 out of the map you can't kill anyone |
| 05:23.14 | hwilde | there's not advantage |
| 05:23.23 | JeffM | F5 was never intended to be used that way for ANYTHING |
| 05:23.28 | hwilde | I hate F5. |
| 05:23.30 | hwilde | remove it. |
| 05:23.37 | JeffM | it no longer lags the game |
| 05:23.41 | hwilde | also people are using delete now |
| 05:23.46 | JeffM | hmmm.. hates it.. but spams it ;) |
| 05:23.47 | hwilde | they initiate self destruct and get a tiny lag |
| 05:23.57 | JeffM | that has been changed as well |
| 05:24.05 | hwilde | and this has been released |
| 05:24.06 | TkTech | wait for 2.99 |
| 05:24.10 | hwilde | or changed in the unknown future release |
| 05:24.10 | JeffM | 3.0 |
| 05:24.13 | TkTech | *3 |
| 05:24.14 | hwilde | at an unknown date |
| 05:24.19 | JeffM | yep |
| 05:24.29 | TkTech | Welcome to the world of distributed open source projects |
| 05:24.32 | hwilde | hehe |
| 05:24.39 | hwilde | you shouldn't talk about it in the past tense then |
| 05:24.44 | JeffM | trepan: how hard would it be to have the flag grab code on the server check to see if there is an obstacle between the grabed flag and the tank? |
| 05:24.52 | hwilde | because it's only "changed" for like 0.1% of people |
| 05:24.53 | JeffM | hwilde: it HAS been fixed in the code |
| 05:24.59 | JeffM | we can't change the past |
| 05:25.09 | trepan | JeffM: very easy, obstacle->intersect(Ray) |
| 05:25.11 | JeffM | so I don't know what else you want us to do |
| 05:25.23 | JeffM | trepan: you think from flag to tank center is good enough? |
| 05:25.57 | hwilde | if obstacle is within flag grab radius |
| 05:26.01 | trepan | JeffM: probably |
| 05:26.05 | JeffM | trepan: k |
| 05:26.23 | JeffM | hwilde: that's what it would check, to see if there is anythign inbetween the tank and the flag |
| 05:26.24 | trepan | also, i'd advise using the CollisionManager |
| 05:26.32 | JeffM | when the flag is in the radius |
| 05:26.51 | trepan | decent examples in bzfs/DropGeometry.h |
| 05:26.57 | trepan | s/.h/.cxx |
| 05:27.44 | JeffM | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:27.56 | JeffM | that kinda stuff? |
| 05:28.03 | trepan | yup |
| 05:28.08 | JeffM | k |
| 05:28.18 | JeffM | just don't want flags to be grabbed through objects |
| 05:32.14 | JeffM | I can do math on the fvec3 stuff now right? |
| 05:32.40 | trepan | that would be the preferred method |
| 05:32.49 | JeffM | cool |
| 05:32.52 | JeffM | cus CollisionManager.rayTest(new Ray(fpos, tpos-fpos),dist); is easy :) |
| 05:33.01 | trepan | yup ;-) |
| 05:33.10 | trepan | new ? |
| 05:33.14 | JeffM | and all I care about is if it's null or empty right? |
| 05:33.21 | JeffM | crap.. not C# |
| 05:33.42 | trepan | rayTest gives you back a list of obstacles |
| 05:33.59 | trepan | you then have to scan through them using obs->intersect() |
| 05:34.19 | JeffM | yeah and if there is anything between the flag and me I can just exit, I don't care about the actual intersection |
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| 05:34.34 | trepan | JeffM: sounds about right |
| 05:35.08 | JeffM | has no way, nor desire to test this code :) |
| 05:35.46 | trepan | give it to a GSOC'er |
| 05:35.53 | JeffM | I was just thinking that :) |
| 05:36.21 | trepan | moves some junk from MeshFace to LinkPhysics ... |
| 05:36.49 | JeffM | so COLLISIONMGR uses a static list? I don't have to delete the return or anything? |
| 05:36.58 | trepan | exactly |
| 05:37.09 | JeffM | cool |
| 05:37.18 | JeffM | reuglifies the code and commits |
| 05:37.57 | trepan | the HoldingList class in DropGeometry is only required because it uses the CollisionManager while still using the original static list (so it makes a HoldingList copy) |
| 05:38.04 | trepan | only place i had to do that, iirc |
| 05:38.07 | JeffM | yeah I see that now |
| 05:39.36 | JeffM | ray.cxx and teleporte sceene node got removed didn't they? :) |
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| 05:40.09 | trepan | oops, that's what I forgot ... the MSVC build ;-) |
| 05:40.13 | trepan | ya, they got killed |
| 05:40.18 | JeffM | k |
| 05:40.19 | trepan | Ray.h inlines everything now |
| 05:40.25 | JeffM | I'll take care of it |
| 05:40.31 | trepan | and TeleporterSceneNodeGenerator got whacked |
| 05:40.40 | trepan | (because the file name was too damned long) |
| 05:40.40 | JeffM | if I can find what project had the sucker |
| 05:43.17 | trepan | Ray is in game/, Tele... is in obstacle/ |
| 05:43.35 | JeffM | there we go |
| 05:45.01 | CIA-60 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r19709 10/trunk/bzflag/MSVC/build/ (game.vcproj obstacle.vcproj): so long missing files, it was fun while it lasted. |
| 05:48.15 | CIA-60 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r19710 10/trunk/bzflag/MSVC/build/game.vcproj: hello new files, how are you this fine evening |
| 05:50.00 | JeffM | damnit, and I was planing on finishing chapter 7 tonight :/ |
| 05:54.25 | CIA-60 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r19711 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx: untested support for checking flag grabs against the world. |
| 05:58.09 | trepan | actually, you don't need the (olist == NULL) test |
| 05:58.18 | trepan | it'll just return you an empty list |
| 05:58.18 | JeffM | true, if it's static :) |
| 05:58.28 | trepan | " |
| 05:58.42 | trepan | return &EmptyList" :) |
| 05:58.53 | trepan | (from CollisionManager::rayTest()) |
| 05:59.37 | trepan | should change those to ref'ed returns, instead of pointers (to make it clear) |
| 05:59.40 | CIA-60 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r19712 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx: the list returned by the ray test will never be null, just check if it's empty. |
| 06:00.22 | CIA-60 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r19713 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx: In fact, you don't even need oList. |
| 06:01.28 | JeffM | awww. no version of rayTest that takes a const ref ;) |
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| 06:12.55 | JeffM | sends littlelep a nice message asking him not to post outright lies |
| 06:26.56 | Bambino_ | heh |
| 06:27.11 | Bambino_ | or to not post boost ;) |
| 06:28.38 | CIA-60 | BZFlag: 03trepan * r19714 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx: |
| 06:28.42 | CIA-60 | BZFlag: * rewrote the test for obstacles interfering with flag grabs (need to |
| 06:28.46 | CIA-60 | BZFlag: use obstacle->interect() for each obstacle returned from rayTests) |
| 06:28.50 | CIA-60 | BZFlag: * clean-up, as per usual ;-) |
| 06:28.52 | trepan | even tested it :) |
| 06:29.06 | JeffM | then you have more motivation then I |
| 06:29.10 | JeffM | how wierd is THAT? |
| 06:29.27 | trepan | doesn't commit without testing, i'm silly that way |
| 06:31.01 | CIA-60 | BZFlag: 03trepan * r19715 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx: * comment correction |
| 06:37.27 | trepan | hm, should obstacles block Flags::Identify information ? |
| 06:37.39 | JeffM | probalby not |
| 06:37.47 | trepan | makes with the fix |
| 06:43.57 | CIA-60 | BZFlag: 03trepan * r19716 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx: * obstacles no longer block flag identification |
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| 10:28.48 | dexter- | catay, ping |
| 10:29.02 | catay | yes |
| 10:29.17 | catay | dexter- |
| 10:29.30 | dexter- | good morning :P |
| 10:29.34 | catay | hi |
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| 12:49.20 | delusional | OK, i'll give the teles a try trepan... seems strange to get a segmentation fault for " error: could not find bzflag world file" when using include. |
| 13:15.22 | trepan | delusional: a backtrace would be much more useful than "seems strange..." |
| 13:15.29 | trepan | or pastebin the map |
| 13:21.18 | delusional | it was a world not found |
| 13:21.28 | delusional | the included map was not there |
| 13:32.56 | trepan | segmentation fault? -> backtrace? |
| 13:35.33 | delusional | as far as teleporters go... they are ok to look at, but links don't work, and -dddd does not print the link table. OK, i'll try to get a bt on the segfault |
| 13:40.06 | delusional | this is not the way you want teles named now, right? "teleporter /t1" what you want is a new line "name t1" |
| 13:48.23 | delusional | here's the bt http://pastebin.bzflag.bz/d5f4fb513 |
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| 13:49.38 | trepan | i'd stick with 'teleporter t1' |
| 13:50.08 | trepan | the '/' is for when the link name is used in a 'define' block, and you want to escape it |
| 13:51.01 | trepan | ex: teleport t1 \n end \n\n define mygroup \n link \n src /t1:f \n dst /t1:b \n end |
| 13:51.09 | trepan | ... enddef |
| 13:52.55 | trepan | thanks for the bt ... bz_flushEvents(), is it even map related? |
| 13:53.34 | trepan | delusional: the man page was also update, -setforced debugLinks 3 |
| 13:53.39 | trepan | *updated |
| 13:55.02 | delusional | ah, i see, it reads /t0 as a MeshObstacle, .... /t0:b' and /t0:f' are seperate MeshFace |
| 13:55.28 | delusional | i should remove the / |
| 13:55.30 | trepan | why are you using '/' ? |
| 13:55.33 | trepan | ah, ya ;-) |
| 13:56.37 | trepan | mesh \n name bob \n face \n linkName joe \n endface \n end => the tele name is bob:joe |
| 13:57.07 | trepan | standard teles use the same setup, except that the faces are always called 'f' and 'b' |
| 13:58.23 | trepan | save for the '/' char, it should be backwards compatible |
| 13:58.44 | trepan | could you pastebin if you have a map that doesn't work? |
| 14:01.12 | delusional | my map is working |
| 14:01.23 | delusional | as soon as i removed the / |
| 14:01.36 | delusional | that's an incredible amount of tele debug info |
| 14:01.53 | trepan | the debugTele is quite verbose as well |
| 14:02.08 | trepan | could also use: -setforced debugLinks 1 |
| 14:02.17 | trepan | gives a little less |
| 14:02.34 | delusional | makes it nice to debug them without -dddd too |
| 14:03.09 | delusional | let me get a good look at the bzw.5.in |
| 14:03.44 | trepan | still haven't added the [shot|tank][Min|Max]Speed parameters to it |
| 14:04.16 | trepan | or the [shot|tank]BlockTeams parameters |
| 14:04.25 | trepan | moving them from the MeshFace to LinkPhysics |
| 14:04.45 | delusional | ah |
| 14:05.07 | trepan | (so that you'll be able to use with with standard teles, and for smarter discrimination) |
| 14:05.27 | TD-Linux | whoa |
| 14:05.36 | TD-Linux | I see I've been out of the loop |
| 14:06.02 | TD-Linux | any mesh face as a teleporter? |
| 14:06.08 | TD-Linux | teleporter filteriing? |
| 14:06.21 | trepan | yes |
| 14:08.14 | delusional | and they can be grouped |
| 14:10.01 | trepan | (links, that is) |
| 14:10.04 | delusional | any face can be base |
| 14:10.21 | trepan | if it's normal = +z |
| 14:10.38 | trepan | no tilted bases, yet |
| 14:12.24 | trepan | but fully functional all-mesh bz worlds are now possible |
| 14:12.31 | delusional | so all of the linkSrcRebound, etc will be moved out of the mesh object? |
| 14:13.00 | trepan | some of those won't be moved, ex: Glow and Radar |
| 14:13.18 | trepan | they are tied to the geometry |
| 14:24.07 | delusional | baseteam is the new mesh property. tetra is still in man, so I guess you didn't remove it. |
| 14:24.25 | trepan | it's but a shadow of it's former self |
| 14:24.39 | trepan | s/of it's/of its/ |
| 14:24.54 | trepan | tetras no longer exist in client code |
| 14:25.07 | delusional | ah, it's converted to mesh |
| 14:25.18 | TD-Linux | Glow? |
| 14:25.23 | trepan | the yellow |
| 14:25.34 | TD-Linux | on radar? |
| 14:25.39 | delusional | Georgeous Ladies Of Wrestling |
| 14:25.49 | trepan | no, viewport, when close to a tele |
| 14:26.06 | TD-Linux | oh the fog, OK |
| 14:38.57 | trepan | doesn't look like fog, isn't rendered as a volume; so glow it is |
| 14:40.08 | delusional | i sure did find the map with lots of teles, 46 of them. Worked the same way, i just removed the slash characters, and it works as expected. |
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| 15:52.37 | tj13820 | Would a Dev build of 2.99.x be accepted for BZFlag.app (On mac os x)? I just built the current SVN to try it out and thought i'd share it. |
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| 17:12.50 | tj13820 | JeffM: would you want a beta build of 2.99.x for Beta Images? I built one and thought i'd share it. (I built with the options Default/Deployment) |
| 17:13.09 | JeffM | for what os? |
| 17:13.15 | tj13820 | mac os x |
| 17:13.24 | JeffM | meh |
| 17:13.30 | JeffM | post it on the fourms |
| 17:13.35 | tj13820 | haha okay |
| 17:13.43 | JeffM | generaly we only put ones we build on the beta page |
| 17:13.59 | tj13820 | alright :) just thought i'd ask |
| 17:14.12 | tj13820 | i'll .tar.gz it and put it on the forums |
| 17:15.33 | JeffM | compressed DMG is simpler for most mac users |
| 17:16.02 | JeffM | then they just drag the .app out |
| 17:18.52 | tj13820 | okay |
| 17:19.10 | tj13820 | i was thinking .zip or .dmg (.zip automatically decompresses upon download) |
| 17:19.19 | tj13820 | i'll try both and see which is smaller |
| 17:19.45 | JeffM | yeah simpler is better for mac users |
| 17:20.20 | tj13820 | -_- |
| 17:20.30 | tj13820 | resents that |
| 17:20.41 | JeffM | it's the same for windows users too |
| 17:20.55 | JeffM | linux people seem to freak if something gets TOO simple |
| 17:21.54 | tj13820 | yeah |
| 17:21.58 | tj13820 | like having a GUI |
| 17:22.27 | tj13820 | "Oh no... I'll just use 'tar xfj archive.tar.gz' it is much simpler" |
| 17:24.29 | tj13820 | should i post under "Game Releases and Versions" ? |
| 17:30.36 | JeffM | development |
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| 17:57.11 | tj13820 | is anyone here using Mac OS X? |
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| 18:33.35 | TD-Linux | it's tar -xvf :( |
| 18:38.35 | Cygal | tar xvf being enough :( |
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| 19:56.18 | catay | anything wrong with the listserver ? |
| 19:58.15 | catay | ~bzlist |
| 19:58.37 | JeffM | probably |
| 19:58.50 | catay | yeah, it takes longer then normal to come back |
| 19:58.56 | JeffM | it happens |
| 19:59.03 | JeffM | usualy when mysql gets pounded |
| 20:00.00 | catay | i'll be patient then :) |
| 20:05.56 | JeffM | yeah it's runing really slow |
| 20:06.23 | JeffM | mysql is chewing up a lot of cpu, and a bunch of http sessions |
| 20:07.00 | JeffM | the machine is runing 85% of it's CPU |
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| 20:14.17 | temp_dist | global auth down? |
| 20:14.23 | JeffM | realy slow |
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| 20:35.22 | AAA_awright | Would it help just to merge the phpbb and list server databases? They don't share any table names, do they? |
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| 20:42.43 | kierra | I like him better as Cobra_fast |
| 20:42.58 | blast007 | AAA_awright: it would help to discontinue using phpBB3's user database ;) |
| 20:43.21 | blast007 | we have to load up 3MB of PHP files every time, just to handle that |
| 20:44.09 | blast007 | but yeah, having them in the same database might be faster too |
| 20:44.31 | blast007 | not sure how much of a performance hit there is for using "USE ___" 4 times in a single call to a script |
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| 20:52.20 | AAA_awright | blast007: I am not sure exactly how efficent USE is, but I know you can also just specify database.table, I can't imagine it is very high if at all |
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| 22:31.46 | ts | blast007: ping |
| 22:32.31 | blast007 | ts: pong |
| 22:33.21 | ts | blast007: I'd like to test the new lag comp in svn trunk and I'd need someone else |
| 22:33.48 | blast007 | how new is your client? |
| 22:34.02 | ts | Just built a new one |
| 22:34.34 | ts | so pretty new |
| 22:34.54 | blast007 | as in, just a few minutes ago? yesterday? last week? |
| 22:35.48 | ts | 1 minute ago |
| 22:35.58 | blast007 | okay, then let me build a new one too |
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| 22:50.19 | ts | blast007: Please message me when it's built |
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