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| 00:49.32 | trepan | fwiw, it was r17161 that change the tele behaviour |
| 00:50.07 | trepan | (not unreasonable to break that particular bit of backwards compat) |
| 00:52.19 | trepan | ... but, the man page wasn't updated, so it's still fair game for a reversion ;-) |
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| 01:05.47 | delusional | the bzedit guys were especially irritated... bzedit was the only easy way to do teles, and that killed it. |
| 01:06.05 | trepan | already have it reverted in my code ... |
| 01:07.09 | trepan | bzedit won't be able to do much for the new linkage mechanism; it uses mesh faces |
| 01:07.48 | delusional | did you go with round arcs, instead of square border? |
| 01:08.03 | trepan | it uses mesh faces <- |
| 01:08.21 | delusional | well, are they round instead of square? |
| 01:08.34 | delusional | borders |
| 01:09.11 | trepan | http://my.bzflag.org/w/Mesh |
| 01:10.07 | trepan | mesh faces will also have the 'baseTeam <number>' property |
| 01:10.24 | trepan | so you could have a particular face setup as a link destination, and a base |
| 01:11.43 | delusional | so..... any face could be a teleporter, or base? |
| 01:11.55 | delusional | without a teleframe? |
| 01:12.08 | trepan | yup |
| 01:12.17 | delusional | hmm. |
| 01:12.22 | trepan | although i'll probably require the base faces to be flat tops |
| 01:12.36 | trepan | ... normal's +z = 1 |
| 01:12.49 | trepan | hm, normal's z = +1 ;-) |
| 01:13.22 | trepan | you can also use flat teles to replaced phydrv's |
| 01:13.35 | trepan | flat link faces that is (i consider tele to be the old objects) |
| 01:14.03 | trepan | link faces have the advantage of being able to set the tank's velocity to 0, and then adding their own |
| 01:14.12 | trepan | (phydrv's are purely additive, iirc) |
| 01:15.23 | delusional | there is much to digest. |
| 01:16.07 | trepan | in the 'link' objects, you can now specify multiple srcs and dsts on their respective lines |
| 01:16.21 | trepan | added some synonyms, src = from, dst = to |
| 01:19.25 | trepan | the biggest thing missing for links is grouping (with default absolute linkage) |
| 01:20.03 | trepan | would be nice to create a groupdef, with linked faces, and be able to replicate it without having to redo the links for each instance |
| 01:20.37 | delusional | i don't see that as a gigantic hole, but still, it would be nice to have. |
| 01:21.00 | trepan | bzmapper had it, years ago :) |
| 01:22.48 | delusional | as long as we can still do teles in the old style, we'll be happy/ |
| 01:25.45 | trepan | so to keep the 'we's happy, i can stop testing, and never commit ... that does sound easier, thanks |
| 01:27.50 | delusional | clams up |
| 01:27.55 | blast007 | delusional: have someone write a converter |
| 01:28.08 | blast007 | already need to convert dyncols |
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| 01:52.53 | trepan | fwiw, the new code is backwards compat (or supposed to be) |
| 01:53.20 | trepan | except that it doesn't have some of the old geometry bugs (it has new meshy geometry bugs) |
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| 02:46.36 | JeffM | tankzilla runs tankzilla.com right? |
| 02:48.37 | JeffM | looks like it's in his sig, answers that one :) |
| 02:50.46 | JeffM | hmmm, ban from the usercp dosn't ask for reason, that sucks |
| 02:57.05 | Carnage00_ | tz.com is FTW :) |
| 02:57.44 | JeffM | not when it violates our lgpl |
| 02:58.08 | Carnage00_ | hmm? |
| 02:58.27 | JeffM | binary releases of bzflag, no sources, nor contact info to request it. |
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| 03:34.29 | JeffM | goes and just forms the Special Committee on Un-BZFlag Activities and gets it over with. |
| 03:35.49 | TD-Linux | adds "is a communist" to his list of ban reasons |
| 03:36.05 | JeffM | actualy, it woudl be the opposite |
| 03:36.38 | JeffM | what many want is us to switch to comunism, and patroll all the servers "for the good of the state" |
| 03:37.07 | JeffM | since what some have argued is basicly "tell server owners what they can and can not do" |
| 03:37.37 | JeffM | appoints blast007 head of the loyalty review board. |
| 03:37.48 | blast007 | heh |
| 03:39.25 | JeffM | confom or be exiled |
| 03:42.27 | JeffM | just remember, America.. built on terrorism ;) |
| 04:04.03 | a_meteorite | 1984, here we come! |
| 04:05.03 | JeffM | not us, we'll just blow crap up, that's what american's do |
| 04:05.16 | Think_Differentl | that reminds me of team america |
| 04:05.25 | a_meteorite | Yeah, and a certain word I can't say. |
| 04:05.47 | JeffM | sure you can |
| 04:05.53 | blast007 | a_meteorite: supercalifragilisticexpialidocious? |
| 04:05.53 | JeffM | you just don't want to ;) |
| 04:05.57 | a_meteorite | Not here :P |
| 04:06.04 | JeffM | you can |
| 04:06.06 | JeffM | once |
| 04:06.15 | blast007 | hehe |
| 04:06.21 | Think_Differentl | only once? |
| 04:06.27 | a_meteorite | heh |
| 04:06.34 | JeffM | probably |
| 04:06.38 | blast007 | Think_Differentl: yeah, after that the ban kicks in |
| 04:06.56 | Think_Differentl | blast007, well, I was thinking more of the time between the first and the ban. |
| 04:07.01 | a_meteorite | Think_Differentl: I accidentally the whole once! |
| 04:07.03 | a_meteorite | Maybe twice if you're faster than JeffM's ban fingers. |
| 04:07.10 | a_meteorite | Doubtful, he practices daily though. |
| 04:07.15 | JeffM | alt + f7 FTW |
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| 06:29.17 | Constitution | did jeff deactivate tankzilla's account? |
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| 08:27.46 | Cygal | hi |
| 08:28.06 | Cygal | DTRemenak: so you're my mentor :) "hello :]" |
| 08:28.28 | Cygal | any (accepted) students around here? I don't know all the nicks, just the real names |
| 08:40.13 | noyb | accepted? |
| 08:41.14 | Cygal | or rejected; I don't really know what is this "community bonding" stuff anyway and how it is going to take place here |
| 08:43.17 | noyb | it's not. there is no such thing as "community bonding" -- it's IRC. You ask a question, get spanked around a bit, then somebody takes pity and finally answers with: "google it, fool" see? That's IRC. not bonding. |
| 08:44.38 | blast007 | ? |
| 08:44.48 | noyb | :-) |
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| 11:23.14 | jorgenpt | Cygal: Community bonding is bonding with the community. If the people who had their applications rejected still contribute / participate in the community, then sure; them too. :) |
| 11:23.27 | jorgenpt | ~seen bulldozer |
| 11:23.29 | ibot | bulldozer <n=mathew@unaffiliated/kingrobot> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 6d 6h 59m 14s ago, saying: 'When it's slowed down it won't do it'. |
| 11:23.49 | jorgenpt | :/ |
| 11:24.25 | Cygal | ~seen KingRobot |
| 11:24.26 | ibot | kingrobot <n=mathew@unaffiliated/kingrobot> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 1d 14h 42m 50s ago, saying: '... and I'm very excited about working with you all this summer :)'. |
| 11:24.36 | Cygal | :) |
| 11:26.04 | jorgenpt | Ah, man, people with multiple nicks. He didn't put that one in his application, AFAIK. ;) |
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| 22:06.42 | delusional | jeff and trepan, I'm confused by the last line of modeltool's example.diconf. Note due to how LODs work, only the material of the first face in each obj group will be used for all faces in that group if the OBJ is used as an LOD |
| 22:06.59 | delusional | I'm not losing any materials |
| 22:08.26 | delusional | As long a I use wings' "One group per material" setting, all the materials are used. |
| 22:18.29 | trepan | i don't really know what you're talking about ... but it could be related to the fact that modeltool now uses the 'o' .obj property |
| 22:18.45 | trepan | (unless you use the -nogroup switch) |
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| 22:22.27 | trepan | i also don't really know the modeltool drawInfo limitations, but each bz LOD can contain multiple materials (in MeshDrawInfo, a DrawLod is comprised of multiple DrawSet, a DrawSet being a bzMaterial along with DrawCmds) |
| 22:22.38 | trepan | *MeshDrawInfo.h |
| 22:25.11 | delusional | i think the line in the example diconf is a leftover from earlier versions |
| 22:29.12 | delusional | hmm.. thats probably there because in the past I could not convert multiple lods with multiple materials each... I could have multiple lods OR multiple materials, but not both. |
| 22:29.15 | delusional | goes to try that again. |
| 22:42.55 | catay | what is http://stattrack.bzflag.org:88 ? bzfs trunk tries to connect to it at startup but it doesn't resolve in dns ? |
| 22:44.06 | brad | ~dns stattrack.bzflag.org |
| 22:44.38 | brad | catay: just a wild guess....but could it be a service that tracks stats? :P |
| 22:48.45 | catay | I'm just asking because it doesn't resolve |
| 22:49.03 | brad | I know...just being silly:( |
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