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| 01:13.23 | Winny | anyone know when firefox 3.0 is suppost to ship? |
| 01:13.38 | a_temp_dist | yesterday |
| 01:16.28 | a_temp_dist | "Mozilla Firefox 3 was released on June 17, 2008" |
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| 01:17.09 | JeffM | current is 3.0.8 |
| 01:17.49 | JeffM | I think you mean 3.5 |
| 01:17.57 | JeffM | it had beta3 in march |
| 01:21.36 | CIA-11 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r19608 10/trunk/bzflag/tools/StartBZFS/ServerConfig.cs: add +r to the config when they want rico |
| 01:29.33 | Winny | JeffM: ah yeah, sorry |
| 01:29.36 | Winny | brain fart there |
| 01:31.51 | JeffM | q2 2009 is all they have said really |
| 01:32.00 | JeffM | they are in beta, but not RC yet so that makes sense |
| 01:32.55 | Winny | ah, ok |
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| 02:02.11 | blast007 | JeffM: the StartBZFS definately don't look "native" on linux, not that I really care |
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| 02:12.17 | JeffM | heh |
| 02:12.26 | JeffM | nether does wxWidgets on vista ;) |
| 02:12.54 | JeffM | and unlike his code... StartBZFS actualy runs |
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| 04:29.07 | blast007 | hi Yassen |
| 04:29.44 | blast007 | do you still have the "Sound Volume: Unavailable" problem on Vista? |
| 04:31.43 | Yassen | nope |
| 04:31.49 | blast007 | cool |
| 04:32.24 | blast007 | I tried duplicating it on Friday and couldn't :) (and I had the problem before on that system) |
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| 06:18.51 | Yassen | What's with these XML files in the docs directory? Is this suppose to replace the old MAN docs? |
| 06:25.08 | JeffM | doxygen |
| 06:25.10 | JeffM | code docs |
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| 15:54.02 | Santosh_IIIT | any mentors available? |
| 15:54.46 | Santosh_IIIT | can we continue to update or edit our proposals on the GSoC site even now? |
| 15:55.16 | Wyk3d | no |
| 15:55.40 | Santosh_IIIT | how do we get to show our imporvements or developments in our ideas? |
| 15:56.20 | Wyk3d | deadline was friday i'm afraid |
| 15:56.39 | brlcad | Santosh_IIIT: you can put your proposal onto our wiki and refine in response to our questions/comments there |
| 15:56.54 | Santosh_IIIT | ok . alright. |
| 15:56.58 | brlcad | put the link as a comment on your proposal |
| 15:57.31 | brlcad | you shouldn't expand drastically beyond what we ask for or comment on, though |
| 15:58.16 | brlcad | if we asked for "more detail", you can do quite a bit more .. but that's only because you're coming from behind compared to some others :) |
| 16:00.08 | BulletCatcher | Don't forget to submit a patch. |
| 16:01.06 | Santosh_IIIT | working on it. Got to find some thing to proceed with .just finished with my exams. |
| 16:01.15 | Santosh_IIIT | i will submit it asap |
| 16:01.23 | BulletCatcher | Hope your exams went well. |
| 16:01.30 | Santosh_IIIT | ya. thanks. |
| 16:01.39 | BulletCatcher | :-) |
| 16:01.41 | blast007 | if you need ideas, let us know |
| 16:03.00 | Santosh_IIIT | i downloaded the source code and found some files containing TODO things like continuing on finishing a piece of code. |
| 16:03.22 | Santosh_IIIT | cna i go with that or have to find some bug on sourceforge to make a patch |
| 16:04.01 | Santosh_IIIT | finishing i.e. write the other part of the implementation some part of which was not completed. |
| 16:04.15 | BulletCatcher | Items from the TODO, BUGS, or SourceForge are fine. |
| 16:05.22 | Santosh_IIIT | many of the things on sourceforge show that they are closed(resolved/deleted). do we have to work on sth open? |
| 16:05.23 | BulletCatcher | You are looking at the trunk code and not v2_0branch, right? |
| 16:05.48 | Santosh_IIIT | i didnt get u. |
| 16:06.43 | BulletCatcher | In the Subversion repository we have the old 2.0.x code which is what everyone plays right now. Current development is on the "trunk" code that will become BZFlag 3.0. |
| 16:07.18 | Santosh_IIIT | i just gave a brief look at the different files and their organisation. Different classes used, from the project perspective. I have the 2.0.* version with me |
| 16:07.37 | BulletCatcher | Your patch needs to be against the "trunk" code. |
| 16:08.09 | Santosh_IIIT | ok. |
| 16:08.20 | blast007 | http://my.bzflag.org/w/SVN |
| 16:09.21 | BulletCatcher | An easy way to confirm that you have the right version is to look in the "src" subdirectory. Branch has a src/c-ares directory and trunk has src/other/ares . |
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| 16:12.28 | BulletCatcher | Oh, and you should only consider SourceForge bugs that have "Open" status. |
| 16:12.28 | blast007 | also easy is to look at src/date/buildDate.cxx for the version parts ;) |
| 16:12.49 | BulletCatcher | That too. |
| 16:13.07 | blast007 | and it doesn't necessarily have to be a bug. you could add a new flag type, or some other feature |
| 16:13.35 | blast007 | just something to show you know how to find your way around code, build, and test |
| 16:14.31 | BulletCatcher | That is the minimum requirement, but feel free to impress us as long as you get it done today or tomorrow. |
| 16:18.37 | jcp | blast007: I thought new flag types were frowned upon |
| 16:18.57 | blast007 | jcp: not necessaily going to ADD them in oficially |
| 16:19.03 | jcp | oh, ok |
| 16:19.06 | blast007 | it's just so they have a patch |
| 16:19.22 | jcp | ok, so more to prove that he knows how to write a new flag, for example, than to actually have a new flag in the game. |
| 16:19.32 | blast007 | and they're not frowned upon, if they're a good one ;) |
| 16:19.41 | jcp | heh |
| 16:19.50 | jcp | Just that very few are "good ones" anymore |
| 16:20.00 | blast007 | it's just that people are always "make this flag that shoots homing lasers that end in a shockwave!!" |
| 16:20.31 | jcp | Or make this flag that kills people that were red team 5 minutes ago but are now green team and are exactly 5.74wu away from me! |
| 16:20.43 | blast007 | and they never think about if someone *else* has that flag. they just think what it would be like if *they* had it ;) |
| 16:21.06 | jcp | I remember this one flag that someone proposed where the description took up an entire wiki page |
| 16:21.44 | blast007 | yeah.. |
| 16:21.50 | jcp | and that reminds me, for some reason, is there a way for an external program to ask a running bzflag.exe what server it is connected to? |
| 16:22.41 | blast007 | no idea |
| 16:22.50 | blast007 | I doubting it |
| 16:22.52 | blast007 | I'm* |
| 16:22.53 | jcp | darn |
| 16:22.56 | jcp | doesn't xfire do it somehow? |
| 16:23.21 | blast007 | I don't know, I don't use XFire ;) (I have it, but never bothered to add any friends) |
| 16:23.35 | jcp | heh, neither have I |
| 16:23.43 | jcp | I was just reading up on it and it looks like it somehow does |
| 16:23.52 | jcp | but I'll email them and ask them |
| 16:25.39 | RAThomas | maybe just reads the profile? |
| 16:25.49 | RAThomas | er, config file |
| 16:28.02 | blast007 | there is integration with XFire in the client code itself |
| 16:28.07 | blast007 | at least in trunk |
| 16:28.20 | blast007 | I thought 2.0.x had some too, but I'm not finding much of a reference fo XFire there |
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| 16:37.50 | brlcad | jcp: a bug fix is generally better than adding new code / new features |
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| 16:38.19 | jcp | brlcad: Right, that was my point |
| 16:38.22 | brlcad | harder to read/understand/fix code than it is to write new (often buggy) code, so showing you can do the prior tends to show better skill |
| 16:38.55 | brlcad | and yeah, you could write a new flag, but it'd be pretty much wasted effort right now even if it fulfills the requirement |
| 16:39.08 | jcp | brlcad: actually, I wasn't referring to myself wiht that comment... |
| 16:39.32 | jcp | There was another guy on here, asking what he should do for his gsoc patch, and one suggestion was to code a new flag... |
| 16:39.35 | brlcad | because there aren't supposed to be new major features until release at which point your patch may no longer even apply |
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| 16:39.58 | jcp | And I was pointing out that new flags generally weren't accepted |
| 16:40.23 | brlcad | if it was one of our already 'okay'd flags, it's possible |
| 16:40.26 | brlcad | but still, not right now |
| 16:40.54 | brlcad | understanding and working with our current development focus is important for any new dev :) |
| 16:42.59 | jcp | man, I know that, I wasn't talking about me, I was talking about another guy |
| 16:43.29 | JefferyM | brlcad, is a man? |
| 16:43.32 | JefferyM | whoa |
| 16:43.56 | blast007 | adds a Cow Launcher flag and removes the CLoak flag to make use of the CL abbreviation |
| 16:43.56 | jcp | :) |
| 16:44.03 | delusional | wants a no-ricochet flag |
| 16:44.18 | JefferyM | just call it the BAT |
| 16:44.24 | JefferyM | Bovine Acceleration Tool |
| 16:44.24 | jcp | adds a nuclear explosion flag which had a one-page long description |
| 16:44.29 | JefferyM | who says flags have to be 2 characters? |
| 16:44.29 | blast007 | hehe |
| 16:45.49 | JefferyM | just be sure to write it in python |
| 16:46.45 | brlcad | checks self |
| 16:48.30 | nightstrike | ~lart nightstrike |
| 16:48.30 | ibot | chops nightstrike in half with a free AOL CD |
| 16:48.46 | nightstrike | this game is seriously addictive :| |
| 16:48.58 | nightstrike | played this map with two castles |
| 16:54.02 | RAThomas | Hmmm, called "The Two Castles" by any chance? ;) |
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| 18:18.21 | nightstrike | :D |
| 18:18.25 | nightstrike | The two castles |
| 18:18.30 | nightstrike | or something |
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| 20:21.12 | blast007 | JefferyM: if you get a chance, could you try building the BZFlagGDF project with the lines 17, 19, and 21 if BZFlagGDF.rc uncommented? (with the full Visual Studio 2008) |
| 20:21.38 | blast007 | I can't seem to get it to integrate into the game explorer in the current state, and I'm thinking that *maybe* that stuff is needed after all |
| 20:21.46 | JefferyM | k, one sec |
| 20:21.51 | blast007 | I'd just need the DLL it spits out |
| 20:22.03 | blast007 | (release build) |
| 20:24.46 | CIA-11 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r19610 10/trunk/bzflag/package/win32/nsis/BZFlagGDF/BZFlagGDF.dll: bin build of the dll to make stuff simpler. |
| 20:24.51 | JefferyM | ther ya go |
| 20:24.59 | blast007 | thx |
| 20:25.13 | JefferyM | it's small, so I figured keep one there, it won't change much will it? |
| 20:25.23 | blast007 | nope |
| 20:28.25 | blast007 | also need to figure out why our uninstaller doesn't remove the start menu folder from vista |
| 20:29.37 | blast007 | meh, still doesn't work |
| 20:29.57 | blast007 | and that was with those three lines uncommented? |
| 20:30.09 | JefferyM | oh crap, sorry |
| 20:30.27 | blast007 | heh |
| 20:33.55 | CIA-11 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r19611 10/trunk/bzflag/package/win32/nsis/BZFlagGDF/ (BZFlagGDF.dll BZFlagGDF.rc): use MFC in the res file |
| 20:37.47 | blast007 | still not working :/ bah |
| 20:38.05 | blast007 | too bad Microsoft couldn't have made this *easy* |
| 20:43.48 | blast007 | well, I'll keep looking into. might try posting on the NSIS forum for help. |
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| 21:06.21 | JefferyM | if it's too much trouble blast007, dosn't worry about it |
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| 21:15.06 | RAThomas | blast007: could this be related to your uninstaller issue? http://nsis.sourceforge.net/Shortcuts_removal_fails_on_Windows_Vista |
| 21:16.30 | RAThomas | thinks the title looks related, page content... maybe not so much |
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| 23:05.56 | randomparticle | what's a good free disassembler for windows? |
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| 23:16.43 | blast007 | RAThomas: that does look like something to try, thanks :) |
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| 23:25.31 | delusional | disassembler for windows? that would be a hammer. |
| 23:25.44 | delusional | i knew that would come in handy sometume. |
| 23:25.51 | blast007 | heh |
| 23:25.57 | randomparticle | thing is, windows is already in pieces :) |
| 23:26.00 | PositiveG | And that comes from a mac lover |
| 23:26.04 | PositiveG | :) |
| 23:26.15 | delusional | and a hammer user! |
| 23:26.17 | PositiveG | I like macs also, just to pricey right now |
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| 23:55.48 | a_meteorite | PositiveG: Probably more like OS X you mean. Macs themselves are pretty much PCs with EFI and a pretty shell (and quality hardware, not eMachines/Acer/Dell-grade). |