IRC log for #bzflag on 20090313

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02:26.00Not_Gabe_G23Is there a range of colors (RBG) that one can use in the bzflag config.cfg? For example under #set teamPrefix blue_', I have set blueteam
02:26.37Not_Gabe_G23For example under '#set teamPrefix blue_', I have 'set blueteam radar "1 .5 0"'
02:27.31Not_Gabe_G23But under purple team prefix, I have 'set purpleradar "148 0 211"
02:27.57Not_Gabe_G23I tried some other colors for the blueradar (that were larger) but they default to the yellow rogue color vs. the RBG color (that I found on a site)
02:29.07Not_Gabe_G23'set blueradar "1 .5 0"'* btw
02:29.33Not_Gabe_G23site: http://web.njit.edu/~kevin/rgb.txt.html
02:29.40blast007I think it's a 0 to 1 scale
02:30.52Not_Gabe_G23weird that the 148 0 211 works then :(
02:31.08blast007http://my.bzflag.org/w/Color%28BZW%29
02:31.29blast007It might treat it as 1
02:31.49blast007(clamp the value)
02:32.15blast007or it is just smart enough code to work both ways
02:32.32Not_Gabe_G23ahh
02:32.34Not_Gabe_G23thx :D
02:32.39blast007try something like 2 80 2
02:32.57blast007if that is white, then it clamps to 1
02:33.13Not_Gabe_G23kk
02:33.57Not_Gabe_G23testing now
02:35.53Not_Gabe_G23Yes, 2 80 2 is white :|
02:36.54Not_Gabe_G23I just need to find a more pleasant shade of blue for the radar :P
02:39.33Not_Gabe_G23Found an excellent color
02:39.43Not_Gabe_G23Thanks for the help and bzflag color site :)
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02:42.11brlcadwonders why folks insist on calling it bzflags .. http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/articles/bzflags
02:42.29brlcadafaik, we've *never* even accidentally called it that in any doc/pub
02:42.54JeffMcus there is more then one flag ;)
02:43.51brlcadjust sounds really odd
02:44.16JeffMmaybe it's the new special build, BZFlag S!
02:44.22JeffMfor SUPER
02:44.37blast007Did ya hear about them internets?
02:45.48blast007JeffM: inside joke of my BZFlag XL was that it was for eXtra Lame ;)
02:46.05JeffMXtra Laughable
02:46.16blast007even better
02:46.21JeffMZXylaphone Lemur
02:47.36JeffMBZFlag: Popcorn Eyeglasses, that's what we need
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06:02.07temp_distgetting 1,622 of these errors when running rev 19427  -  http://pastebin.bzflag.bz/m613d6164
06:03.08temp_distright as the serverlist loads
07:30.02trepan./bzflag/HUDuiServerListItem.cxx:112: modesText += ANSI_STR_PULSATING ANSI_STR_REVERSE ANSI_STR_FG_RED "L"  (note the ANSI_STR_bREVERSE)
07:30.20trepan*ANSI_STR_REVERSE :)
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14:54.47Gurpartapstarted a server at BZFlag server: punjaby.com PORT: 5154
14:54.52Gurpartapwhoever wants to join rt now :)
14:55.00Gurpartaphope it isnt offfensive to post like this
14:55.00Gurpartap:D
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15:10.28brlcadhas the initial application in, now to refine
15:10.36joevanoGurpartap: it kinda is.. it is on the list and this is the development channel
15:10.54joevano~brlcad++
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15:53.52Constitution~brlcad++
16:00.55Gurpartapjoevano: ok. :)
16:01.45brlcadsomeone really should change the main website
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16:02.23brlcadit's very old and tired, stale
16:07.35Constitutionwasn't Winny working on a new site?
16:08.18brlcadhe was
16:08.23brlcadWinny: sup with that?
16:08.25brlcad:)
16:08.47brlcadI think it just got mired in the look and feel
16:26.20delusionalwell, the website should match the game, so old tired and stale is just about right.
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16:35.22spldartSnap
16:37.35Constitutionmaybe if the website is fresh and clean and appealing the game will follow :)
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16:56.53brlcaddelusional: hilarious, do you do birthday parties too?
16:59.44spldartEmo birthday parties :~)
17:06.53CIA-66BZFlag: 03Learner 07http://my.bzflag.org * r5546 10/w/Google_Summer_of_Code/2009: New page: The 2009 Google Summer of Code was announced in February, 2009. BZFlag will again be applying as a mentoring organization. Given our enormously successful participation in the program in...
17:10.15Wyk3dyay :)
17:13.44brlcadWyk3d: those aren't a finalized review list of ideas to say the least
17:13.50brlcadand there are various caveats
17:14.02brlcadwill be spelled out later, right now the application is priority
17:14.17Wyk3dyeah i saw it's pretty much the same so far
17:15.28CIA-66BZFlag: 03Learner 07http://my.bzflag.org * r5547 10/w/Google_Summer_of_Code/2009/OrgApplication: stub in initial answers, building upon previous year's answers
17:16.01brlcadokay -- anyone interested in helping out with the application, now is rather urgent and time sensitive  :)
17:16.24brlcadat http://my.bzflag.org/w/Google_Summer_of_Code/2009/OrgApplication is some of the required responses for our org application
17:16.51brlcadyou're welcome and encouraged to review, extend, and improve the answers
17:17.38brlcadbe sure to update and save frequently if you make changes -- there's only about 100 minutes until the deadline after which it cannot be edited
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17:22.59brlcadinteresting
17:26.29Wyk3d"The goal will be to instill a since of belonging " shouldn't that be "sense" ?
17:26.44brlcadWyk3d: absolutely
17:26.52brlcadfix it
17:29.49CIA-66BZFlag: 03193.226.6.226 07http://my.bzflag.org * r5548 10/w/Google_Summer_of_Code/2009/OrgApplication:
17:30.20Wyk3dforgot to log in .. or set a message for that matter ..
17:30.23Wyk3d:(
17:30.37brlcadlog in, keep editing ;)
17:30.51Wyk3dyeah that sentence still looks a bit redundant
17:31.22BulletCatcherDo the numbers in the Description section (paragraph 2) need to be updated?
17:31.31brlcadBulletCatcher: yep
17:31.33brlcadplease do
17:31.46BulletCatcherHow would I count?
17:32.15BulletCatcherThe characterizations are somewhat subjective.
17:32.46brlcadwe pulled exact numbers from the database last time
17:33.07brlcad~bzflist
17:33.24brlcadwow, busy day
17:33.52BulletCatcherNo.  Most of the (15) entries are trunk servers that are mishandled.
17:34.34brlcadah, bots?
17:34.41BulletCatcherNope.  Bug. :-)
17:34.43BulletCatcherBZFS0026(188) is believeable.
17:34.51brlcadah, okay
17:35.12blast007ibot does not handle the new hex string properly (2.99.x has a slightly different format)
17:35.18brlcad188 sounds more reasonable for a friday afternoon anyways
17:35.45blast007http://bzstats.strayer.de/
17:35.49CIA-66BZFlag: 03trepan * r19428 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzflag/HUDuiServerListItem.cxx: * removed ANSI_STR_REVERSE (not currently implemented)
17:35.52blast007that has a list of how many players are online
17:36.19blast007134 right now (186 if you count multiple instances of the same name, which is probably observer clients as loggers)
17:37.34blast007it's been rather low recently
17:37.41blast007last night there was less than 50 people on
17:38.00blast007(exams and such?)
17:39.19JefferyMcan you track a trend compared to last year at this time?
17:39.22CIA-66BZFlag: 03Wyk3d 07http://my.bzflag.org * r5549 10/w/Google_Summer_of_Code/2009/OrgApplication: /* What steps will you take to encourage contributors to interact with your community before, during, and after the program? */
17:40.20Wyk3dstill wasn't prompted for a commit message like thing ..
17:41.05Wyk3dor .. that would be the summary ?
17:41.16JefferyMit's the summary
17:41.25JefferyMthe wiki dosn't commit to svn
17:41.33JefferyMthe wiki is just hooked up to CIA
17:44.49CIA-66BZFlag: 03Bullet Catcher 07http://my.bzflag.org * r5550 10/w/Google_Summer_of_Code/2009/OrgApplication: Use less precision for the number of registered players.
17:45.09JefferyMdid you say "over 2" BulletCatcher ;)
17:45.18blast007hehe
17:45.24brlcadany bzbb admin can get the value from the admin section
17:45.42brlcador at least make sure first two digits are close enough :)
17:45.46BulletCatcher"more than 3"
17:45.53JefferyMbetter then last year
17:46.18blast007brlcad: the total number of users is available to anyone at the bottom of the forum index
17:46.29blast00719086 right now
17:46.52JefferyMphpbb3 have any tools to purge unactivated accounts?
17:47.01blast007shrugs
17:47.01brlcadah, k
17:47.23brlcadwe have/had a cronjob script that purged accounts
17:47.41JefferyMwonder if it's still going
17:48.15blast007probably wouldn't be wise to run that anymore until we verify phpBB3 handles it the same..
17:48.16joevanoJefferyM: don't they go away after a time?
17:48.27JefferyM"go away" ?
17:48.28blast007joevano: not afaik
17:48.42CIA-66BZFlag: 03RatOmeter 07http://my.bzflag.org * r5551 10/w/Google_Summer_of_Code/2009/OrgApplication: sp and word choice
17:48.46JefferyMin the past we had to do it ourselves, via script or manual
17:49.17JefferyMwe'd kill any acocunt that hadn't activated and was over a month or so old.
17:49.59blast007there's an "Inactive Users" section in the admin cp
17:50.14blast007only 188 pages long
17:51.10brlcadinactive is different than not activated
17:51.13joevanoaccording to this removing unactivated accounts base on a time frame is in phpbb3 http://www.awsom.org/category/phpbb-mod/
17:51.21joevanonow to find out where it is
17:51.22blast007yeah
17:52.04JefferyMat least they have more info now
17:52.19JefferyMI was always worried about hitting people that were non activated cus they changed emails
17:52.25blast007joevano: there's a prune users section, but I'm not sure if that would prune *everyone* ;)
17:52.40joevanoyeah, it seems it would
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17:53.22brlcadone hour to go, keep the edits coming ;)
17:53.23blast007so yeah, doesn't look like there is anything built-in to delete *just* unactivated accounts
17:53.43joevanoright.. /me heads to #phpbb3 to ask
17:54.15brlcadJefferyM: do you have a link_id on melange yet?
17:56.38JefferyMdoes not know what you are talking about
17:57.24CIA-66BZFlag: 03RatOmeter 07http://my.bzflag.org * r5552 10/w/Google_Summer_of_Code/2009/OrgApplication: rm extraneous word
17:59.11JefferyMpleads the fith and looks at spiral segments
18:00.05brlcadhttp://socghop.appspot.com <-- log in, create a link
18:00.19brlcadunder edit profile
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18:00.34JefferyMI'm not sure if I want to be a mentor
18:01.22kierrait's a lot of responsibility
18:01.26brlcadyou know you really do
18:01.27CIA-66BZFlag: 03RatOmeter 07http://my.bzflag.org * r5553 10/w/Google_Summer_of_Code/2009/OrgApplication: wc
18:01.35brlcadit's in the blood
18:01.47brlcadeven if somewhat curdled
18:02.22brlcadeither way, anyone interested in mentoring should go to that url, log in, edit your profile and create a link_id :)
18:02.40JefferyMjeffm2501
18:03.29joevanoblast007: they directed me to the  ACP -> manage users -> inactive users page
18:03.32JefferyMwhat if I go to community college, and apply to bzflag, and submit the proposal, "Redo it all in C#" ?
18:03.46RatOmetereek
18:03.57blast007joevano: which also picks up newly registered accounts that have been activated, afaict
18:03.58joevanothere is a reason there of Newly registered that gets changed if they activae
18:04.09blast007oh
18:04.11joevanolet me see
18:04.17blast007so that's not activated?
18:06.56CIA-66BZFlag: 03RatOmeter 07http://my.bzflag.org * r5554 10/w/Google_Summer_of_Code/2009/OrgApplication: wc
18:07.25joevanoblast007: they say that means that they changed their e-mail address and never reactivted the account
18:07.45joevano<PROTECTED>
18:07.56brlcad~RatOmeter++
18:08.03blast007hmm
18:08.20joevanowe could test it
18:08.32joevanowould be easy to do.. give me a minute
18:09.15CIA-66BZFlag: 03Bullet Catcher 07http://my.bzflag.org * r5555 10/w/Google_Summer_of_Code/2009/OrgApplication: /* Why is your group applying to participate? */ Use absolute time references. Be more concise.
18:09.43BulletCatchere.g., "last year" -> "in 2007"
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18:19.52joevanoblast007: tested and confirmed... once you activate you are not on the list as "Newly Registered"
18:20.29joevanoaccording to the description on the page it looks like exacly what we are looking for
18:20.47joevano"This is a list of users who have registered but whose accounts are inactive. You can activate, delete or remind (by sending an e-mail) these users if you wish."
18:21.39joevanoso this seems to be a list of accounts that have their activated fireld not set, and not actually ones who have not posted in a while
18:25.44CIA-66BZFlag: 03Bullet Catcher 07http://my.bzflag.org * r5556 10/w/Google_Summer_of_Code/2009/OrgApplication: /* What is your plan for dealing with disappearing contributors? */ Don't say "last year". Other wordsmithing.
18:37.44CIA-66BZFlag: 03Bullet Catcher 07http://my.bzflag.org * r5557 10/w/Google_Summer_of_Code/2009/OrgApplication: /* What steps will you take to encourage contributors to interact with your community */ Don't say "last year". Other wordsmithing.
18:38.11BulletCatcherI'm done.
18:46.15brlcadokay anyone else editing, going to make a final submission
18:46.28brlcadspeak now or forever hold your edit!
18:49.16brlcad~BulletCatcher++
18:49.30BulletCatcherGlad to help.
18:55.06blast007I've read most of it, and it looks good
18:55.18blast007I especially like this: "Several of our mentors and administrators also know each other in person and have physical access to one another, so we can go smack them if they're not participating effectively or should they try to disappear online."  ;D
18:55.56blast007"This year, we have also set up a mentor's blog"  that should say In 2008, correct?
18:56.30blast007brlcad: ^^
18:58.19Winnybrlcad: I stopped working on it
18:58.25Winnyand it should probably be redone anyways
18:59.54brlcadblast007: physical access is very effective :)
19:00.18brlcadblast007: too late now :)
19:00.22blast007k :)
19:00.33blast007read too slow
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19:07.08BulletCatcherYes, the paragraph on the mentor's blog should have been updated.  But as long as the blog is used again this year the application should be sufficiently truthful.
19:07.11BulletCatcherwrote that very slowly for blast007's benefit
19:07.34blast007;)
19:11.47joevanobrlcad: do you want to know our link_ids now? (joevano)
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19:16.46brlcadjoevano: no, not yet
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19:55.51trepanhttp://trepan.bzflag.bz/text-reverse.jpg -- cheesy ANSI_STR_REVERSE implementation, worth adding?
19:57.22joevanomeh.. not really. I think you hit the nail on the head... cheesy
20:01.02blast007brlcad: my link id is blast007
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20:03.33brlcadblast007: k
20:03.42brlcadwill probably have to ask again later
20:03.52brlcaddidn't need them all up-front again this time
20:07.44JefferyMyou could have everyone put it on there wiki user pages brlcad ;)
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20:35.23evilessyquietly converts both JefferyM and brlcad into evil ones too
20:36.15evilessytacklehugs evilearner
20:36.23JefferyMno
20:36.29evilearnerevadehugs evilessy
20:37.06JusticeJeffis going to be a man in motion, all he needs is a pair of wheels.
20:37.12evilessydoubles back and tripletacklepreventevadinghugs evilearner
20:37.20eviljoevanoas we learned yesterday... justice is just another word for flambait :P
20:37.35eviljoevanoflamebait*
20:37.40JusticeJeffthankfully this isn't the fourms ;)
20:37.44eviljoevanohehe
20:38.23ChetAwesomLaserthat better?
20:40.30evilessynope
20:41.17ChetAwesomLaserk
20:41.40evilessyaww :(
20:43.07ysselive(: wwa
20:43.59evilessyglares at ysselive
20:44.18evilessyysselive is anti-evil :(
20:44.43ysseliveevilessy ta seralg
20:47.00evilessyeheh
20:49.30Foo_man_chooChoose the form of the destructor!
21:00.14Evilroneousdeflates MrStayPuft
21:00.58MrStayPuftsteps on Evilroneous's church
21:01.28Evilroneousroasts MrStayPuft
21:02.53evilessymelts MrStayPuft
21:03.44MrStayPuftscreams in agony
21:04.06evilessywonders why she hasn't seen any new photos of MrStayPuft's new hideout
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21:34.20evilessyok, evilcad is officially my fav :D
21:34.58*** kick/#bzflag [spldart!n=sean@bz.bzflag.bz] by evilcad (MrStayPuft says muauauaaaaaaaaa!)
21:36.02tj13820wow...
21:36.03evilessyhehe
21:36.24tj13820makes me think of Ghostbusters (The kick message)
21:37.27evilcadthinks tj13820 is out of touch with the last hour
21:37.41tj13820i wasn't here :P
21:37.49tj13820i was speaking in #bzflag-chat
21:37.54tj13820and preparing dinner
21:38.26evilcadyou were here
21:38.37evilcadmaybe just not paying attention to this channel
21:38.52evilcadyou joined at 16:23 :P
21:38.57evilcad(my time)
21:38.58tj13820...STALKER!
21:38.59tj13820:P
21:39.03evilcadof course
21:39.10evilcadhow else can I be evil
21:39.15evilcadoh yeah
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21:39.22evilessyrofl
21:39.22blast007we control the horizontal and the vertical
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21:39.29tj13820haha
21:39.33evilessyeyes evilcad
21:39.53evilcaddon't look at me like that
21:39.58evilcadyou started this evil mess missy
21:40.02evilessywonders if she dares
21:40.07evilessymuahahahah
21:40.28Eviltjevilcad is just jealous of my super 1337 PCS T-Shirt and Lanyard. :)
21:40.45EviltjPSC*
21:40.48evilcadis devoid of words in response to that
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21:40.59Eviltjlaughs evilly
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21:41.27evilessymuahahah :D
21:41.28evilessyhides
21:41.38evilcadhehe
21:41.40Eviltjwho said it was faux evil! I know where's u live! :P
21:41.48evilessydo you now?
21:41.53evilessyand where's that? :)
21:41.59EviltjON EARTH!
21:42.04Eviltjmuahahaha
21:42.20EviltjAll i must do is destory it with nuclear winter!
21:42.26evilessygood luck with that
21:42.27EviltjAND TYPOS!
21:42.54Eviltjthat was not evil. That was encouraging!
21:43.06Eviltj>:-D
21:43.18evilessyheh, clearly you're so unevil you can't even grasp sarcasm :p
21:43.22rtfmthis is about as evil as I get
21:43.45evilessyconverts rtfm into evil007
21:43.57evilcad~seen pacman87
21:43.59ibotpacman87 <n=Timothy@pool-71-170-39-105.dllstx.fios.verizon.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 66d 21h 41m 46s ago, saying: 'also, if you're planning on adding that info to the windows readme, the link there is broken, too'.
21:44.20evilsportdudemuahahaha
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21:51.29rtfmso it it like a super-villian holiday or something?
21:52.06rtfmlike "Bring your henchmen to work" day?
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21:52.38rtfmit was too much evil for LongDon
21:52.44Winnyrtfm: close
21:52.47Winnyit's FRIDAY!!!!
21:54.14MindstormsKidthe economy just lost a billion $ D:
21:54.34MindstormsKidjust because it's friday the 13th
21:55.03delusionalmy lucky day, i was born on friday the thirteenth.
21:55.10MindstormsKid:D
21:55.33delusionalgoes to instruct his henchmen.
21:56.43evilmsksends a gm after delusional
21:57.24evilme1I dunno about this evil business... I don't really feel that much different than usual...
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21:58.30evilessystuffs evilme1 full of evilish things
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22:09.29evilGarydoesn't troll, oh no, not trolling
22:09.53evilwormdoesn't either
22:10.45evilwormeyes evilGary and consideres that little evilworm has less evil wiggle room :/
22:11.06evilwormwould never troll, never in a million years. not with evilessy in the channel
22:11.42evilwormconsideres all the evil evil evilessy could to do a small evilworm
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