| 00:03.23 | delusional_ | where exactly is the standard first-person viewpoint in relation to the x-y position of the turret? Is it at the front of the barrel? or inside the turret, with the barrel not seen? |
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| 00:52.08 | joevano | delusional_: i believe it is from the middle of the tank (in the turret) and the smaller box is the end of the turret |
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| 01:49.15 | CIA-66 | BZFlag: * renamed setupRoamingCamera() to updateRoamingCamera() |
| 01:49.15 | CIA-66 | BZFlag: * replaced setupCameraView() with setupCamera() and setupRoamingCamera() |
| 01:49.15 | CIA-66 | BZFlag: (this change also enables SOUNDSYSTEM.setReceiver() for all modes) |
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| 02:38.56 | delusional_ | blast007 brlcad... looks like everything froze up again, no bzbb, no listserver |
| 02:39.16 | delusional_ | heh, as soon as i say that, bzbb comes back |
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| 09:26.57 | Gurpartap | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:27.08 | Gurpartap | but i'm getting permission error. |
| 09:27.18 | Gurpartap | how am i supposed to kick someone? |
| 09:27.25 | brad | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:27.36 | Gurpartap | hm, no password was setup |
| 09:27.40 | brad | or spend some time getting the groups sorted :p |
| 09:28.06 | Gurpartap | they are actually my ghosts.. bad internet connection :( |
| 09:28.22 | Gurpartap | ok well they timed out now |
| 09:28.23 | Gurpartap | :P |
| 09:28.25 | Gurpartap | thanks guys |
| 09:28.25 | Gurpartap | haha |
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| 16:31.06 | BulletCatcher | Yay. With trunk code I can reproduce the "sealed in teleporter" problem on LaserMania. As with 2.0.x, the 64-bit client works fine but the 32-bit client does not. |
| 16:31.08 | BulletCatcher | My hope is that using double instead of float for the math in "sealed" detection will fix it. |
| 16:31.42 | blast007 | cool |
| 16:39.08 | BulletCatcher | Just running a LaserMania server reveals a couple of other trunk problems. |
| 16:39.10 | BulletCatcher | Some keywords are unrecognized in dynamicColor definitions, and the background mountains are at a fixed distance that is partially within the LaserMania playing area. |
| 16:40.03 | blast007 | dynamic colors are different in trunk, so that'll have to be updated to the new style |
| 16:40.15 | BulletCatcher | k |
| 16:42.56 | BulletCatcher | Oooh. The bzw man page has already been updated in trunk. That should help with that. :-) |
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| 16:53.37 | BulletCatcher | Or not. I don't see a way to map dynamicColor definitions from branch to trunk syntax. |
| 16:53.57 | blast007 | yeah, it's definately different |
| 16:54.29 | blast007 | I haven't spent much time trying to figure out the difference, since I really didn't understand the original implementation ;) |
| 16:54.36 | BulletCatcher | :-) |
| 16:55.15 | joevano | well first you set a color... and then ic can change dynamically ;) |
| 16:55.38 | blast007 | joevano :P |
| 16:56.44 | BulletCatcher | I *think* I understand the branch implementation, but maybe that's because I haven't really tried to use it. It looks like it is much less powerful in trunk. |
| 17:07.16 | trepan | C1 ..t1.. C2 ..t2.. C3 ..t3.. (C=color, t=time) |
| 17:07.56 | trepan | syntax 'state t C' |
| 17:08.07 | trepan | not terribly difficult to understand |
| 17:08.29 | trepan | nor should it be a great leap to see that you can reproduce the old style with it |
| 17:09.59 | BulletCatcher | What would branch "green limits 0 .5" and "green sinusoid .8 .2 1" become in trunk? |
| 17:11.00 | trepan | a triangle waveform will probably suffice for sinusoids |
| 17:11.13 | trepan | (i doubt that anyone would notice the difference) |
| 17:15.30 | BulletCatcher | I still don't understand how I would define even a triangle waveform in trunk. |
| 17:16.02 | trepan | state 1 white \n state 1 black |
| 17:17.45 | _anomaly_ | There are some issues with the new syntax that don't make sense to me yet |
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| 17:30.55 | trepan | http://trepan.bzflag.bz/dyncol.bzw & http://trepan.bzflag.bz/lcd_dyncols.bzw |
| 17:31.09 | trepan | first was my test map, second is an update for my old lcd clock dyncols |
| 17:39.16 | _anomaly_ | what's the purpose of setting the state duration to zero between state calls? |
| 17:52.25 | trepan | take 0 seconds to reach color X |
| 17:52.30 | trepan | aka: hard edge |
| 17:54.08 | _anomaly_ | ah, I noticed that a lightning effect I did won't work with state 0.1 color 1 \n state 10 color 0 |
| 17:54.29 | _anomaly_ | I had to place 0 duration states in between |
| 17:55.25 | _anomaly_ | looking at the code I don't see (yet) why that doesn't work |
| 17:56.40 | trepan | sorry, read it the other way, start at color X and ramp to the next state in 'duration' seconds |
| 18:00.17 | _anomaly_ | right |
| 18:02.21 | trepan | could add a 'hardstate' keyword to append the 0 duration states |
| 18:03.16 | _anomaly_ | it does seem that changing from one duration to another doesn't work without the hard edge |
| 18:03.30 | trepan | it blends without the 0 |
| 18:04.01 | _anomaly_ | oh, that's what I didn't see in the code |
| 18:05.11 | _anomaly_ | ah, now I see it. thanks |
| 18:05.17 | trepan | hm, could also change 'state' to 'ramp', and add 'level' instead of 'hardstate' |
| 18:06.15 | _anomaly_ | the next color starts new if duration <= 0.0 |
| 18:06.28 | _anomaly_ | and only of |
| 18:06.31 | _anomaly_ | if |
| 18:07.11 | trepan | 'starts new' -- and which duration? (pastebin is your friend) |
| 18:09.20 | _anomaly_ | lol, what I meant was the next state is not blended or added to the previous state if duration is <= 0.0 |
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| 18:09.37 | _anomaly_ | in the code |
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| 18:33.34 | trepan | so, would s/state/ramp/ and a new 'level' keyword make it easier? |
| 18:34.02 | trepan | ramp duration color -- ramp from 'color' to the next state in 'duration' seconds |
| 18:34.16 | trepan | level duration color -- use 'color' for 'duration' seconds |
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| 18:51.11 | CIA-66 | BZFlag: 03trepan * r19423 10/trunk/bzflag/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 18:51.11 | CIA-66 | BZFlag: * change dynamic color syntax: |
| 18:51.11 | CIA-66 | BZFlag: - s/state/ramp/ |
| 18:51.11 | CIA-66 | BZFlag: - added the 'level' keyword |
| 18:51.11 | CIA-66 | BZFlag: (equivalent to: ramp duration color + ramp 0 color) |
| 18:52.18 | delusional_ | heh, now you got us jumpin |
| 18:53.10 | trepan | i thought it was fairly obvious the first time around ... looks like yall needed the spoon though ;-) |
| 18:56.29 | delusional_ | we figured it out, were having problems with the hard transition though. It would always ramp no matter what we did. |
| 18:56.52 | _anomaly_ | it was obvious after I figured it out |
| 18:57.24 | delusional_ | as usual.. there's that one critical peice of info we're missing. |
| 18:59.14 | trepan | delusional_: that's the sad part |
| 18:59.31 | trepan | you knew how to make ramps, but couldn't derive how to make a hard transition |
| 19:05.35 | SpazzyMcGee | delusional_: I did have a hard transition on the billboards when I was working on them the other week |
| 19:05.45 | SpazzyMcGee | I just thought the fade looked nicer |
| 19:06.07 | delusional_ | i know |
| 19:06.07 | SpazzyMcGee | TBH, it was my poor basic arithmetic that was screwing us around :p |
| 19:06.27 | trepan | mofo will probably appreciate one of my next additions |
| 19:06.41 | delusional_ | hints? |
| 19:06.56 | trepan | well, it could already be done using FBOs ... |
| 19:07.03 | trepan | directly loading texture data |
| 19:07.29 | trepan | coupled with the lua url.Fetch() call, truly dynamic billboards |
| 19:08.13 | delusional_ | we're discussing how to make a scoreboard with the text object, seems like it will be pretty easy, on the mapping side... and we already have a scorekeeping plugin. |
| 19:08.44 | trepan | the 'text' objects make it easy to do, designed for just such applications |
| 19:08.53 | trepan | could do it better with lua though ;-) |
| 19:09.16 | SpazzyMcGee | I think easier > better to begin with |
| 19:09.38 | trepan | don't think i added 'post-billboard' shifting, can't remember |
| 19:09.54 | trepan | (think i'd already decided on adding lua by that point) |
| 19:10.30 | trepan | but if the scoreboard is to be plastered on to a wall, you wouldn't be using a billboard anyways |
| 19:10.44 | delusional_ | yeah |
| 19:11.00 | trepan | but, current bz engine fonts don't have outlines |
| 19:11.22 | trepan | lua fonts do (optionally) |
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