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| 02:02.30 | spldart | what did I do wrong :( http://pastebin.bzflag.bz/md25c591 |
| 02:03.20 | trepan | #error: set these up for windows builds (32bit vs. 64bit?) |
| 02:03.48 | trepan | it's a strong notice for a windows dev to check the settings |
| 02:04.26 | trepan | don't know anything about your .sbr errors |
| 02:08.52 | trepan | the svn log for r19414 also has a related msdn link |
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| 02:20.38 | spldart | I'm setup for debug win32 as always. But of course.. I may be having stablity issues with this old hardware. All that should change soon. I have alot of new hardware in shipping. |
| 02:21.34 | spldart | Guess I need to stop attempting builds for a weak or so till I have the new stuff assembled, installed, tweaked and customized. |
| 02:21.41 | spldart | s/weak/week |
| 02:22.30 | spldart | hrm... I have another windows machine running to my left.. lemmed check my own train wreck |
| 02:27.29 | spldart | Woah! Same errors. lotsa (32bit vs. 64bit?) |
| 02:27.56 | trepan | imagine that ... |
| 02:28.24 | spldart | right? |
| 02:29.06 | trepan | it's an intentional error |
| 02:29.14 | trepan | 22:03 <+trepan> it's a strong notice for a windows dev to check the settings <<< |
| 02:31.51 | spldart | I wonder if I'm gonna have any problems with beta 7 and setting up for vc9 builds of dev bzflag *ponder* |
| 02:32.12 | spldart | can't believe he's about to be 64 |
| 02:34.39 | joevano | JeffM: finally got an answer to the group question you kinda asked here |
| 02:35.18 | joevano | went to #phpbb and asked them about making a group users cant remove themselevs from |
| 02:35.48 | joevano | it has just recently changed, and if a group is hidden or closed a user cannot |
| 02:36.15 | joevano | remove themselves from it, only an admin or a group moderator can remove them |
| 02:38.54 | joevano | that is probably a good thing for server admins as well :) |
| 02:39.18 | joevano | you can create MUTE groups and the like that users can't get out of |
| 02:43.49 | blast007 | neat |
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| 14:05.35 | joevano | Here is an interesting resource http://producingoss.com/ |
| 14:05.58 | joevano | Its an open source book on successfully running an open-source project |
| 14:06.46 | joevano | it's 185 pages, so it isn't a quick read but there seems to be some pretty good info in it |
| 14:09.36 | joevano | there is a lot of "duh" stuff, but the chapters on Social and Political Inrastructure, Communication, and Managing Volunteers seem pretty good from a quick browsing |
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| 15:05.01 | RatOmeter | trepan: on Windows (VC++) 32 and 64 long double is 8 bytes. |
| 15:05.21 | RatOmeter | same as double |
| 15:21.37 | RatOmeter | trepan: all your other "#define SIZEOF_..."s in config.h are correct for both 32 & 64 bit Windows/Visual Studio |
| 15:23.02 | RatOmeter | erk, now I see your commit comment ;) |
| 15:24.21 | RatOmeter | latest commit, that is. I was looking at rev 19413 :( |
| 15:25.00 | RatOmeter | http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/s3f49ktz(VS.80).aspx |
| 15:36.46 | CIA-66 | BZFlag: 03trepan * r19420 10/trunk/bzflag/MSVC/build/config.h: * Ratometer has blessed the SIZEOF_xxx #defines for MSVC++ 32 and 64 bit |
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| 16:13.24 | tupone | to who uses the bundled curl library: http://curl.haxx.se/docs/adv_20090303.html Maybe it apply. |
| 16:19.18 | trepan | to patch, or to update ... ? |
| 16:29.07 | BulletCatcher | We should patch cURL now if we are in a big hurry. However, I think our exposure to the security problem is fairly low. |
| 16:29.15 | BulletCatcher | Either way, we should upgrade to the latest cURL because in the long run it will make our support of it easier. |
| 16:29.17 | BulletCatcher | I am willing to do the upgrade, but I may not have time before the weekend. |
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| 16:48.26 | TheRedBaron | I changed my server's IP address today, DNS probably hasn't fully propagated, and users are reporting that global auth fails. |
| 16:49.01 | TheRedBaron | I'm guessing this is due to the global list not getting the new IP address and sending it to the old machine/ip address? |
| 16:50.16 | brad | can you see the list server connecting to bzfs in the output ? |
| 16:50.25 | brad | with -d's |
| 16:50.52 | brad | should come from 66.111.56.50/bz.bzflag.bz |
| 16:51.43 | TheRedBaron | brad - i don't think its an issue of my machine not being able to receive the token, but an issue of the the list server/global auth sending the token to the wrong machine |
| 16:51.46 | blast007 | TheRedBaron: what hostname? |
| 16:51.53 | TheRedBaron | my.inexplicably.org |
| 16:52.16 | blast007 | resolving to 72.233.34.50 on the list server |
| 16:52.21 | dexter- | aha |
| 16:52.23 | TheRedBaron | yea |
| 16:52.29 | TheRedBaron | old IP address - figured that was the issue |
| 16:53.43 | BulletCatcher | blast007, if you have access to the DNS resolver daemon there is a command to flush the cache. |
| 16:54.10 | BulletCatcher | "rndc flushname my.inexplicably.org" should do it |
| 16:55.19 | blast007 | rndc: command not found |
| 16:55.50 | BulletCatcher | You would need to run that on the machine with the DNS server. |
| 16:56.07 | BulletCatcher | And I am assuming it is BIND. |
| 16:56.08 | blast007 | according to nslookup, that's localhost |
| 16:56.28 | blast007 | oh well, it'll time out eventually. |
| 16:57.02 | BulletCatcher | A "dig my.inexplicably.org" command will tell you how many seconds is left. |
| 16:57.19 | blast007 | 4 hour TTL |
| 16:58.28 | blast007 | 6m45s ;) |
| 16:59.13 | BulletCatcher | turns over an egg timer, then will do it once more |
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| 17:05.31 | BulletCatcher | The old A record should have expired by now. |
| 17:05.38 | Erroneous | BulletCatcher: bind8, not bind9, so s/rndc/ndc/, fwiw |
| 17:05.58 | BulletCatcher | Okay. You should upgrade :-). |
| 17:06.10 | Erroneous | it ain't broke ;) |
| 17:07.14 | BulletCatcher | I don't think ndc supports the flushname command. |
| 17:07.51 | TheRedBaron | ew - bind8? |
| 17:08.07 | TheRedBaron | might as well use swiss cheese for your DNS :) |
| 17:08.18 | Erroneous | BulletCatcher: possible, might need to flush the whole thing |
| 17:08.28 | Erroneous | but it's probably expired by now anyway |
| 17:08.41 | Erroneous | likes swiss cheese |
| 17:12.55 | TheRedBaron | yea - global auth works now |
| 17:13.02 | dexter- | yeahhh |
| 17:13.05 | BulletCatcher | Yay. |
| 17:13.15 | TheRedBaron | loves swiss cheese too, just not with his DNS machine |
| 17:18.13 | BulletCatcher | According to http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/927905 BIND 8 is now at end-of-life, although version 8.4.7-P1 is probably still reasonably safe to use. |
| 17:23.26 | BulletCatcher | Nope. https://www.isc.org/node/378 shows that even the last version of BIND 8 is more vulnerable to DNS cache poisioning than BIND 9. |
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| 17:52.07 | TheRedBaron | what? CIA reports wiki edits? |
| 17:52.11 | CIA-66 | BZFlag: 03The Red Baron 07http://my.bzflag.org * r5540 10/w/Current_events: /* New Content Policy */ |
| 17:57.34 | joevano | TheRedBaron: yeah, brlcad wrote a mediawiki plugin to do it |
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| 18:25.09 | CIA-66 | BZFlag: 03bullet_catcher * r19421 10/trunk/bzflag/src/common/cURLManager.cxx: Don't follow redirects. This should mitigate the danger from CVE-2009-0037 with older versions of cURL. |
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| 19:10.05 | SportyGal | brlcad: ping |
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| 20:13.22 | sniper15 | What's up with my.bzflag.org/bb? |
| 20:13.35 | sniper15 | I keep getting a General Error |
| 20:14.00 | TheRedBaron | looks like the database is under heavy load |
| 20:14.05 | TheRedBaron | or being DoS |
| 20:14.07 | sniper15 | dos |
| 20:14.09 | TheRedBaron | should be temporary |
| 20:14.11 | sniper15 | thought so |
| 20:14.15 | sniper15 | dang |
| 20:14.19 | sniper15 | that sucks |
| 20:14.33 | TheRedBaron | Bzbb Admins: looks like there is a connection flood against mysql |
| 20:14.36 | sniper15 | same with the list server |
| 20:14.51 | me1 | They're on the same server. |
| 20:14.56 | sniper15 | oh |
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| 20:38.59 | sniper15 | When did this start? |
| 20:39.59 | delusional_ | probably about 26 minutes ago |
| 20:49.57 | blast007 | wee |
| 20:50.56 | blast007 | brlcad: you around? |
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| 21:07.25 | blast007 | should be back now |
| 21:07.37 | blast007 | had to forcefully kill mysql |
| 21:17.09 | delusional_ | looks good from where i'm sitting |
| 21:20.44 | RatOmeter | Yeah, it weirded me out a little the first time ChatZilla beeped at me a few seconds after I posted an edit |
| 21:21.03 | RatOmeter | scrolls back down to the present conversation |
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| 22:07.01 | TimRiker | blast007: malicious? or just a bug? |
| 22:10.24 | blast007 | no idea |
| 22:31.55 | brlcad | blast007: pong |
| 22:33.08 | brlcad | every now and then, mysql tries to reoptimize a db and it locks out the daemon keeping it busy, locks up the web server until the opt is done |
| 22:33.24 | brlcad | which takes a long while iirc, more than 5 min to run to completion |
| 22:34.51 | brlcad | there will be rsync'age happening over the next couple days, migrating the bulk of data over to the new server |
| 22:39.03 | blast007 | the site said that there was too many connections |
| 22:39.10 | blast007 | mysql was idle though |
| 22:39.30 | blast007 | (too many connections to mysql) |
| 22:40.26 | blast007 | or is that the behaviour you're referring to? |
| 22:41.09 | blast007 | it was unresponsive for 50 minutes or so |
| 22:48.46 | brlcad | yeah, the apache threads kick off waiting for mysql to respond, which with all the bzfls connections just takes a couple seconds |
| 23:16.36 | brlcad | DTRemenak: you working on named? |
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| 23:36.12 | brlcad | if you were, I fixed the typo on tim's include line -- still getting some odd permission denied messages on some of his entries, but it's at least restartable now |
| 23:54.56 | SportChick | waits impatiently for brlcad to answer |
| 23:59.37 | CBG | huggles SportChick |