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| 00:19.41 | ibot | well, mp is Northern Mariana Islands |
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| 00:23.03 | ibot | rogue, red, green, blue, purple, observer |
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| 10:11.13 | Carnage00 | im trying to submit a patch, can anyone help me get it the the right format? |
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| 10:22.58 | ruskie | diff -Nuar orig new |
| 10:23.10 | ruskie | or svn diff iirc |
| 10:31.48 | Carnage00 | added it. hope its ok |
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| 14:34.49 | randomparticle | a new experimental option (last menu item): |
| 14:34.51 | randomparticle | http://www.pixentral.com/show.php?picture=1b0K6qNTRVxKrrid8NTAAYKTZO7q |
| 14:53.36 | delusional | interesting |
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| 16:09.12 | CIA-66 | BZFlag: 03trepan * r19396 10/trunk/bzflag/src/other/lua/src/ (lapi.cxx lauxlib.cxx lbaselib.cxx): * improved the __rawblock setup (which i'll probably be replacing anyways) |
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| 16:16.38 | randomparticle | http://www.zshare.net/download/562124911f1bfb2b/ |
| 16:17.15 | randomparticle | wrong place |
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| 16:46.43 | BulletCatcher | Final update on the Fedora 10 ATI driver: restoring two "ModulePath" lines to the xorg.conf file (I found them in xorg.conf.livna-config-backup) gives proper hardware graphics acceleration, and I get 90+ FPS at the LaserMania server. Yay. |
| 16:48.52 | BulletCatcher | On my test system, when running 64-bit Fedora 10 the LaserMania teleporters work just fine. However, with the 32-bit OS (and applications) I get sealed when the teleporter takes me to one of the LaserMania towers. |
| 16:49.42 | BulletCatcher | I suspect this is a result of differences in floating point precision. |
| 16:51.23 | BulletCatcher | LaserMania is a large map, and at the teleporters near its corners there seems to be inadequate floating point precision for "sealed" detection on the 32-bit system. |
| 16:57.04 | trepan | BulletCatcher: mesh vs. 1.x prim tele problem? |
| 16:57.19 | trepan | (don't know LaserMania that well...) |
| 16:59.08 | BulletCatcher | Yes, the towers do seem to be mesh objects (with attached teleporters). |
| 16:59.40 | trepan | i have a fix for the mesh vs. other problem |
| 16:59.55 | trepan | and, 32bit vs 64bit are using diff float representations? |
| 17:01.20 | BulletCatcher | I don't know much about x86 processors and their differences between 32-bit and 64-bit modes. |
| 17:03.23 | BulletCatcher | I wouldn't be surprised if 64-bit mode converts 32-bit floats to 64 bits for math operations, and that may be enough to account for the difference in behavior. |
| 17:06.19 | trepan | depends on FPU, SSEx, MMX, etc... |
| 17:07.38 | BulletCatcher | My test system has an Intel Core 2 Duo CPU, so it should have most of the latest hardware options. |
| 17:07.58 | BulletCatcher | This information should help to isolate the problem, hopefully leading to an all-platform fix. I plan to work on this as time permits. |
| 17:08.40 | trepan | i have a fix for the mesh vs. other problem <-- might already be all-platform |
| 17:09.38 | trepan | but the real fix is to gut bz's simulation ;-) |
| 17:10.04 | BulletCatcher | Commit it when you have a chance. My testing so far has been with 2.0.12, and I need to start working with trunk code on this. |
| 17:10.58 | BulletCatcher | I suspect a major rewrite of the simulator will not occur for 3.0. :-) |
| 17:11.21 | trepan | or ever, based on what i've seen of this project :) |
| 17:11.34 | BulletCatcher | Lazy developers.... |
| 17:11.41 | blast007 | ;) |
| 17:12.08 | trepan | might as well start from scratch; in which case, why bzflag at all? :) |
| 17:12.29 | BulletCatcher | Why? Because it is the coolest game ever! |
| 17:12.40 | trepan | heh |
| 17:14.29 | BulletCatcher | But seriously, a rewritten-from-scratch BZFlag would never have the quirks that make the game unique. |
| 17:19.01 | trepan | hitler/napolean/ghengis were all unique |
| 17:21.59 | jorgenpt | Godwin's law. :( |
| 17:22.35 | trepan | heh |
| 17:22.52 | trepan | guess i should have gone with bundy/gacy/manson |
| 17:25.32 | spldart | 3 stooges |
| 17:25.46 | BulletCatcher | wise guy! |
| 17:32.17 | BulletCatcher | We developers are self-selected, and presumably if we didn't already like most of BZFlag's unique features we wouldn't be here. We are, as a group, biased against really major changes (e.g., rotating turrets). |
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| 18:57.38 | Wyk3d | hi, you guys planning on taking part in gsoc this year as well ? |
| 19:02.28 | CIA-66 | BZFlag: 03trepan * r19397 10/trunk/bzflag/src/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 19:02.29 | CIA-66 | BZFlag: * added the _bumpSpeedFactor server controlled BZDB variable (default = 0.5) |
| 19:02.29 | CIA-66 | BZFlag: * added the _forbid3rdPersonCam server controlled BZDB variable (default = 0) |
| 19:02.29 | CIA-66 | BZFlag: * attached ThirdPersonVars to BZDB callbacks |
| 19:02.29 | CIA-66 | BZFlag: * fixed the 'targetMultiplyer' typo |
| 19:05.02 | trepan | show 'showTreads' always be active when using 3rd person cam ? |
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| 19:43.43 | CIA-66 | BZFlag: 03trepan * r19398 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzflag/playing.cxx: * display the player's tank when using 3rd person view |
| 19:49.03 | CIA-66 | BZFlag: 03trepan * r19399 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzrobots/botplaying.cxx: * oops, missing bzrobots/ changes for r19397 |
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| 19:54.29 | brlcad | Wyk3d: probably |
| 19:54.40 | brlcad | but very reduced, only a couple slots |
| 19:54.51 | brlcad | and no new code |
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| 19:55.02 | brlcad | only enhancements, refactoring, and bug fix style projects |
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| 19:58.00 | Wyk3d | btw were you invited to the mentor summit ? i didn't see an announcement .. |
| 19:58.13 | brlcad | yep, we went |
| 19:58.26 | Wyk3d | cool, how did it go ? |
| 19:58.38 | brlcad | it was a very busy lead up to it and during, though, so no time for a gathering |
| 19:58.52 | brlcad | it went great I think |
| 19:58.58 | brlcad | the additional day was really nice |
| 19:59.09 | brlcad | would have been nice to code all week like that :) |
| 20:01.16 | Wyk3d | i guess continuing bzauthd doesn't count as enhancement or ? :) |
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| 20:13.01 | brlcad | Wyk3d: we could talk about it but continuation of existing projects would probably be okay |
| 20:13.39 | Wyk3d | great :) |
| 20:13.55 | brlcad | basically just want to get some closure on existing projects, get things stabilized, get bugs fixed.. |
| 20:13.59 | brlcad | so we can release |
| 20:14.11 | brlcad | and not burn out the devs for yet another year |
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