| 00:01.54 | dexter- | Can i display the scoreboard in bzadmin? |
| 00:01.57 | dexter- | if so, how? |
| 00:05.13 | temp_dist | dexter-: press F2 then go into the playerlist |
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| 00:06.54 | dexter- | aw |
| 00:07.00 | dexter- | doesn't work on the ipod touch :( |
| 00:07.21 | dexter- | may just be the app |
| 00:08.26 | blast007 | do you see "Send to all: " at the bottom of the window? |
| 00:08.42 | dexter- | blast007, yah |
| 00:08.45 | blast007 | k |
| 00:08.48 | temp_dist | dexter-: It doesn't work with OSX's terminal app either - it sends the wrong character |
| 00:08.53 | temp_dist | I have to use iTerm |
| 00:09.08 | dexter- | yea, temp |
| 00:09.29 | blast007 | works on my Nokia ;) |
| 00:09.42 | dexter- | the app i use, (TouchTerm) has the F2 button - prints something like [F] though |
| 00:09.49 | blast007 | (without having to use SSH) |
| 00:10.09 | dexter- | amazing, blast |
| 00:10.10 | dexter- | :P |
| 00:10.28 | blast007 | not really |
| 00:10.45 | blast007 | it runs linux |
| 00:11.01 | dexter- | yea..</sarcasm> ;) |
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| 01:44.39 | jcp | ~wifi-- |
| 01:44.58 | jcp | ~karma wifi |
| 01:44.59 | ibot | wifi has karma of -1 |
| 01:55.49 | Winny | don't hate on the wifi |
| 01:55.53 | Winny | ~wifi++ |
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| 04:23.38 | Flash | ~wifi++ |
| 04:23.44 | Flash | got to keep things even |
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| 04:32.28 | spldart | ~comcast-- |
| 04:32.30 | spldart | + 1 |
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| 08:08.43 | remote | i keep getting "cannot load texture: observer_bolt" and observer_lazer when i'm obs |
| 08:08.43 | jcp | ~comcast-- |
| 08:08.48 | jcp | ~wifi-- |
| 08:08.48 | remote | is there a fix for that? |
| 08:08.55 | remote | it's flooding my chat box |
| 08:09.02 | remote | ~jcp++ |
| 08:09.05 | jcp | karma wifi |
| 08:09.07 | jcp | :) |
| 08:09.13 | jcp | ~karma wifi |
| 08:09.13 | ibot | wifi has karma of -1 |
| 08:09.16 | jcp | ~karma comcast |
| 08:09.16 | ibot | comcast has karma of -9 |
| 08:09.16 | remote | ~karma jcp |
| 08:09.16 | ibot | jcp has karma of 1 |
| 08:09.30 | remote | ~rogers-- |
| 08:09.34 | javawizard2539 | I used to use this nickname |
| 08:09.39 | javawizard2539 | so all my karma's hsere |
| 08:09.41 | javawizard2539 | ~karma |
| 08:09.41 | ibot | javawizard2539 has karma of -11 |
| 08:09.41 | remote | hey javawizard2539! |
| 08:09.49 | remote | i sent you a message on bzmail earlier |
| 08:09.56 | javawizard2539 | I'll check right now |
| 08:10.01 | javawizard2539 | I haven't been on since earlier today |
| 08:10.02 | remote | no you answered it |
| 08:10.06 | remote | uh |
| 08:10.07 | javawizard2539 | I did? |
| 08:10.12 | remote | well let me check...... |
| 08:10.27 | remote | From: javawizard2539 |
| 08:10.27 | remote | Subject:Re: new to leagues |
| 08:10.29 | remote | yeah. |
| 08:10.34 | javawizard2539 | oh, heh |
| 08:10.36 | javawizard2539 | as tp |
| 08:10.39 | javawizard2539 | :D |
| 08:10.49 | remote | did you get another one with the same message? |
| 08:11.01 | remote | i have no idea how you got this one i was sending to alliedarmour |
| 08:11.24 | javawizard2539 | :D |
| 08:11.26 | javawizard2539 | nope |
| 08:11.29 | remote | ok good |
| 08:11.31 | javawizard2539 | I got your initial one, and your reply to my reply |
| 08:11.36 | javawizard2539 | but that's it |
| 08:11.44 | remote | ~jcp++ |
| 08:11.55 | jcp | ~remote++ |
| 08:12.01 | jcp | ~wifi-- |
| 08:12.01 | remote | ~sk3letr0n-- |
| 08:12.04 | jcp | for goot measure :) |
| 08:12.09 | jcp | s/goot/good |
| 08:12.09 | remote | lol |
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| 13:00.33 | tobylane | latest version on latest mac always crashed after about 30-40 minutes |
| 13:00.38 | tobylane | *crashes |
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| 17:03.07 | joevano | blast007, brlcad : we ant to do anything about this? http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=13586&p=133350#p133350 |
| 17:03.28 | joevano | or is that even the issue.. |
| 17:03.42 | joevano | here is where I found a discussion about it: http://www.ktuk.net/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=4040&p=160943&hilit=search#p160943 |
| 17:08.21 | brlcad | joevano: not sure it's that important vs the 'cost' |
| 17:08.49 | joevano | brlcad: that was my thought exactly |
| 17:09.14 | joevano | good to know why though, for reference |
| 17:09.23 | brlcad | yeah |
| 17:09.52 | brlcad | the three-letter things it can't match now are certainly by far in the minority with things it would match |
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| 17:23.28 | Winny | has anyone in here played with paypal merchant services? |
| 17:25.10 | dexter- | payed? :p |
| 17:25.55 | Winny | no |
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| 17:46.07 | joevano | Winny: you looked through this yet? https://cms.paypal.com/cms_content/en_US/files/developer/PP_WebsitePaymentsStandard_IntegrationGuide.pdf |
| 17:46.40 | joevano | there is a railscast on setting up Paypal merchant services |
| 17:46.42 | brlcad | Winny: yes |
| 17:46.58 | Winny | joevano: ooh |
| 17:47.20 | joevano | of course it is taylored towards integrating with rails, but i am pretty sure they go over setting up an account as well |
| 17:47.49 | joevano | there are some other PDF resources on the railscast site as well, that is where I got the link |
| 17:48.04 | joevano | http://railscasts.com/episodes/141-paypal-basics |
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| 18:19.18 | delusional | hmm.. forgot that drawinfos are limited in the number of matrefs they will handle/. |
| 18:28.03 | trepan | delusional: how's that? |
| 18:30.31 | delusional | well, my current problem is a matswap... after i matswap one material, ever material after that in the drawinfo, is the swapped one. |
| 18:31.04 | trepan | that could be deemed a separate issue |
| 18:31.14 | trepan | what's the matref count limit? |
| 18:31.30 | delusional | last time i had this problem, i could not have multiple lods together with multiple matrefs. |
| 18:32.16 | delusional | if i had more than two LOD's and more than one material, bzfs would segfalt |
| 18:32.39 | trepan | debugger results? example map? |
| 18:32.45 | delusional | let me see if i can figure out exactly... |
| 18:32.56 | trepan | swings the deprecation stick in drawInfo's general direction |
| 18:33.31 | JeffM2501 | comeon delusional just try more random things, that has worked so well for you in the past ;) |
| 18:35.09 | JeffM2501 | trepan: there arn't many maps that use it, so deprecating it to something else probably woudn't be too bad |
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| 18:51.30 | delusional | test map, not cleaned up... http://pastebin.bzflag.bz/d5b6d9faf |
| 18:52.12 | delusional | the problem happens with the sidewall_graf materials.. and the graf materials |
| 18:52.29 | delusional | could be just the way I'm numbering them |
| 18:53.28 | delusional | I only want one of each grafiti texture on each box, but the matswap changes graf5, graf6, graf7, and graf8 |
| 19:07.36 | delusional | if i change the image in the original material, and lose the matswap... that puts the grafiti on all 8 boxes, i dont want that. |
| 19:08.44 | delusional | I suppose i could lose the groups and specify each box's drawinfo individually |
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| 20:04.46 | delusional | looks like the limitation is the matswap, not drawinfo |
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| 21:00.56 | AAA_awright | Why is Lua becoming part of the bzfs core again? |
| 21:04.37 | blast007 | AAA_awright: why not? |
| 21:05.04 | AAA_awright | Why not also add every other language there is too? |
| 21:05.23 | AAA_awright | I thought this was going to be a plugin, that is my point |
| 21:05.36 | blast007 | heh, where have YOU been? |
| 21:05.42 | blast007 | it's more than a plugin |
| 21:06.02 | blast007 | there's now the ability to have client-side scripts as well |
| 21:06.23 | Gabe_G23 | (awesomesauce0 |
| 21:06.25 | Gabe_G23 | (awesomesauce) |
| 21:06.31 | blast007 | and there's the ability to write plugins in Lua |
| 21:06.43 | blast007 | and even embed those plugins directly in a map file |
| 21:15.02 | AAA_awright | Why are we not using the plugin architecture? |
| 21:15.52 | blast007 | AAA_awright: what is wrong with the way it's being done? |
| 21:16.47 | AAA_awright | First of all it is being done on the trunk branch |
| 21:17.58 | AAA_awright | Earlier I expressed conserns over code bloat, which was really not supposed to be a problem since it was going to be a plugin. |
| 21:20.11 | blast007 | what's wrong with it being done on the trunk version...? |
| 21:20.38 | blast007 | and I don't feel that lua adds much bloat :P |
| 21:20.56 | joevano | nope, lots of benefits |
| 21:21.02 | blast007 | my 2.0.x server is using more RAM than my 2.99.x server |
| 21:21.58 | blast007 | thinks AAA_awright just likes to complain |
| 21:22.38 | Gabe_G23 | ;) |
| 21:22.54 | joevano | some of the stuff trepan is doing with lua is pretty sweet |
| 21:23.12 | AAA_awright | Which is of course a good thing, but I wouldn't settle just because it happens to be lower |
| 21:23.27 | AAA_awright | joevano: Yeah, don't get me wrong, I think it is great |
| 21:23.43 | blast007 | AAA_awright: really, you do realize that bzfs uses a LOT less memory than most game servers, right? |
| 21:24.09 | AAA_awright | But why does it need to be in the core? There is nothing that the plugin interface shouldn't be able to do. If there is, then we need to be fixing that. |
| 21:24.11 | blast007 | so "oh noes", maybe we added a meg of usage by having lua. Whoopydo. |
| 21:24.32 | trepan | lua was merged into bzfs proper for a couple of reasons |
| 21:24.37 | joevano | and it matters because it is in core because? |
| 21:24.41 | AAA_awright | ... Don't settle for good enough just because you can |
| 21:24.55 | trepan | 1. it's nice to know that there's a scripting language that can always be used for plugins |
| 21:24.59 | joevano | AAA_awright: and there is the main crux of it |
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| 21:25.15 | trepan | 2. it makes it much easier to share code between the client scripts and the server scripts |
| 21:25.44 | trepan | (C++ code that enables the various lua APIs, ex: the LuaObstacles interface) |
| 21:28.45 | joevano | AAA_awright: let me share a blog post with you for you to think about http://www.contrast.ie/blog/fail-early-fail-often-and-learn/ |
| 21:29.45 | joevano | i would say you were in the group that makes one pot |
| 21:30.49 | trepan | some of the other 'common' bz lua APIs are LuaBzMaterial, LuaTexMat, LuaDynCol, LuaSpatial (although it'll need some rework), LuaConstGame |
| 21:30.53 | AAA_awright | I generally prototype many times before I get something right... |
| 21:30.55 | Gabe_G23 | haha joevano |
| 21:31.15 | AAA_awright | joevano: But on that note, why are we working in trunk then? |
| 21:31.25 | joevano | AAA_awright: but you tend to over analyze and never finish |
| 21:31.25 | blast007 | AAA_awright: because 2.0.x is dead? |
| 21:32.04 | AAA_awright | blast007: I am not talking about 2.0, I mean a branch from the trunk instead. |
| 21:32.11 | joevano | there is always a better or should I say different way... with benefits and tradeoffs |
| 21:32.14 | blast007 | why do it as a branch? |
| 21:32.20 | joevano | I think integrating was a wise move |
| 21:32.24 | blast007 | then we just have to merge it later which takes more work |
| 21:32.44 | AAA_awright | Fail early, fail often ^ |
| 21:32.59 | joevano | and learn |
| 21:33.06 | AAA_awright | (of course :p) |
| 21:34.13 | joevano | the real key to that blog post AAA is that they finished each pot and lived with it, for real not to throw away or try the same thing again |
| 21:36.16 | AAA_awright | For real not to throw away? |
| 21:37.52 | joevano | AAA_awright: they implimented and put it in production so to speak (they got graded), doing it in branch would be kind of like the ones who got to make one pot |
| 21:38.35 | joevano | there were benefits and it was done, it works |
| 21:39.14 | AAA_awright | Erm, the purpose of branches is to be able to be seperate, so you can throw away your work, revert to an earlier revision, start over, etc, without affecting other, unrelated efforts. |
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| 21:39.25 | AAA_awright | Among other things. |
| 21:39.37 | joevano | uhm.. exatly te point of the post |
| 21:39.44 | joevano | you will never be perfect |
| 21:40.07 | joevano | he went a ways down the one path, proved the point and was told to put it in trunk |
| 21:40.25 | AAA_awright | So then isn't working in trunk like producing the one perfect work? |
| 21:40.37 | trepan | joevano: he wasn't 'told' ;-) |
| 21:40.51 | joevano | no, we didn't fret over IF it was the perfect one |
| 21:41.08 | joevano | ok sugessted or discussed, sorry |
| 21:41.22 | AAA_awright | I think we are focusing on different aspects of development. |
| 21:41.28 | trepan | he 'asked' brlcad and JeffM if they were ok with it ... |
| 21:41.54 | joevano | ah, so discussed... still a good decision thanks trepan |
| 21:42.27 | joevano | and I am pretty confident trepan writes pretty good code ;) |
| 21:44.54 | joevano | AAA_awright: i think we are not, i think you may be a little focused on the ideal rather than working and well implimented |
| 21:44.55 | AAA_awright | I am trying to figure out why this is something a plugin can't do |
| 21:45.13 | trepan | you've already been given 2 reasons |
| 21:45.16 | trepan | another is speed |
| 21:45.19 | joevano | AAA_awright: can plugins work clientside? |
| 21:46.48 | spldart | What a day. |
| 21:47.25 | joevano | spldart: more breaking pipes? |
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| 21:48.16 | spldart | heh. I thought it was obvious what I was thinking. sry. Just a conflict filled day. |
| 21:48.32 | joevano | oh how silly of me ;) |
| 21:50.12 | AAA_awright | Someone explain to me what Lua plugins are going to do on the client side (I have to fire up gitweb and check once I all my builds sync and compile) |
| 21:50.26 | me1 | AAA_awright, everything |
| 21:50.45 | AAA_awright | I read that as "Cheating" which I know isn't the case. |
| 21:50.56 | me1 | if you go on trepan's server you can see an lua renderer, which has bumpmapping, and lots of cool other things |
| 21:51.40 | me1 | you can have a custom ui, |
| 21:59.15 | trepan | LuaUser doesn't have access to player pos, shots, or flags |
| 21:59.26 | trepan | it can render the world obstacles |
| 21:59.55 | trepan | "- LuaUser visibility call-in / call-out blocking", #7 on the todo list ;-) |
| 22:00.11 | trepan | (although some of it is already done) |
| 22:00.37 | joevano | i envision different maps for PZed players :) |
| 22:01.54 | trepan | fwiw, the todo list has 70+ items, so #7 isn't that far down ... |
| 22:02.08 | me1 | trepan, would you happen to know about the "ricochet" option for groups in trunk? ( delusional found it) |
| 22:02.22 | trepan | i added per-obstacle ricochet |
| 22:02.28 | me1 | sweet |
| 22:02.44 | trepan | box, meshbox, all of 'em |
| 22:03.03 | trepan | but, the +r global bzfs switch overrides it |
| 22:03.21 | trepan | so you'll have to disable that switch to make 'ricochet' useful |
| 22:04.06 | trepan | something else LuaUser could be setup to do, a 'built-in' map editor |
| 22:04.22 | trepan | (although LuaWorld couple with MsgLuaData would be the better way to do it, imo) |
| 22:04.26 | trepan | *coupled |
| 22:04.50 | me1 | trepan, like a bzedit style editor? or something else? |
| 22:04.55 | trepan | the OpenGL selection buffer is exposed in the LuaOpenGL API |
| 22:05.45 | trepan | a networked world editor, that will run on all platforms ;-) |
| 22:05.55 | trepan | (the latter being of some import) |
| 22:07.25 | me1 | I mean could it work like, for example, how bzedit works, or bzwb, etc? |
| 22:09.06 | trepan | i've only used bzeditw32 and pybzedit? as bz world editors |
| 22:09.26 | trepan | haven't bothered with any others ... |
| 22:09.26 | me1 | like bzeditw32 |
| 22:09.34 | trepan | but yes, a full fledged editor |
| 22:09.43 | trepan | bzeditw32 on crack ;-) |
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| 22:11.15 | AAA_awright | :> It is gonna take another three hours before I can get BZFlag built on all the systems (just for not keeping up to date over the span of a month) |
| 22:11.59 | me1 | AAA_awright, it takes me little over an hour to build everything from clean |
| 22:12.03 | Winny | why do you have so many systems |
| 22:12.28 | AAA_awright | Server, Windoes, Linux, plus git-svn |
| 22:12.41 | me1 | oops, read that as "is it" not "it is" |
| 22:12.42 | blast007 | git-svn isn't building bzflag though ;) |
| 22:13.05 | AAA_awright | And I only have one computer on the latest DirectX SDK, I am downloading that right now |
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| 22:13.31 | blast007 | AAA_awright: windows needs Visual C++ 2008, in case you're still on 2005 or 2003 |
| 22:13.37 | AAA_awright | Yep |
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| 22:16.30 | Guest863 | . |
| 22:16.41 | blast007 | Guest863: hello |
| 22:16.56 | Guest863 | its landon |
| 22:17.02 | Guest863 | im lf someone |
| 22:17.11 | blast007 | what? |
| 22:17.33 | me1 | Guest863, you forgot to identify |
| 22:17.36 | Guest863 | they arnt on nm |
| 22:17.59 | blast007 | Guest863: send them a PM on the forum if you're trying to find them |
| 22:18.17 | Guest863 | naw i missed him |
| 22:18.18 | blast007 | or check the stats site and see if you can find them on a server |
| 22:18.26 | Guest863 | i did |
| 22:18.27 | Guest863 | lol |
| 22:18.31 | Guest863 | cya |
| 22:18.33 | blast007 | who did you miss? |
| 22:18.44 | blast007 | nobody has left here recently |
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| 22:37.59 | me1 | JeffM, I think there is a build-order problem in truck with the latest revision, (it errors bzfs from a clean, fullbuild, however rebuilding bzfs after everything else builds fine) |
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| 22:39.08 | JeffM | and the error is? |
| 22:39.16 | me1 | JeffM, you didn't identify, if you didn't notice |
| 22:39.33 | JeffM | yeah.. and? |
| 22:39.37 | blast007 | FetchURL.obj : error LNK2001: unresolved external symbol _lua_rawset |
| 22:39.42 | me1 | yeah |
| 22:39.45 | blast007 | (when linking bzfs) |
| 22:39.53 | JeffM | is that the only one? |
| 22:40.15 | JeffM | or is it all the lua stuff? |
| 22:40.19 | me1 | it's all lua |
| 22:40.39 | JeffM | is bzfs set to be dependent on the lua project? |
| 22:40.42 | me1 | nope |
| 22:41.07 | JeffM | didn't I checkin a change to bzflag.sln that did that? |
| 22:41.16 | me1 | it's bzfs |
| 22:41.23 | JeffM | I kjnow |
| 22:41.28 | me1 | i mean, i'm using fullbuild |
| 22:41.28 | JeffM | but bzfs is a vcproj |
| 22:41.33 | JeffM | oh |
| 22:41.41 | JeffM | yeah I only did the bzflag sln |
| 22:41.47 | JeffM | fullbuld will need the same thing |
| 22:41.58 | JeffM | the sln is what does the inter project dependencies |
| 22:42.10 | JeffM | cus it's the only thing that knows about more then one vcproj |
| 22:42.11 | me1 | yeah, i missread |
| 22:42.52 | JeffM | just set the dependency and it should be fine |
| 22:43.52 | me1 | I know, just notifying you so you can change it in svn |
| 22:44.01 | JeffM | anyone can change it ;) |
| 22:44.20 | me1 | blast007 recommended you, so :P |
| 22:44.35 | JeffM | chicken..... ;) |
| 22:44.37 | blast007 | mainly cuz I'm still gettin 2008 on this system |
| 22:44.42 | blast007 | cleaning off 2003 and 2005 |
| 22:44.45 | JeffM | I'll do it later |
| 22:44.52 | JeffM | I'm not too concerned about fullbuild right now |
| 22:45.17 | JeffM | wants to know where DTRemenak is |
| 22:45.44 | JeffM | dude's got 18 megs down and he dosn't leave IRC on :) |
| 22:46.42 | KingRobot | JeffM: Is the stats push code in trunk? I see _statURL in globals, implying something is there... |
| 22:46.51 | JeffM | sure |
| 22:46.53 | JeffM | something is there |
| 22:47.26 | JeffM | it's not pusing all the data I'd like,but something is there |
| 22:47.42 | KingRobot | cool - do you know offhand which file that is in? |
| 22:47.46 | JeffM | no |
| 22:47.57 | JeffM | search for the use of that variable |
| 22:48.03 | blast007 | KingRobot: the one with the letters in it |
| 22:48.18 | KingRobot | right, checking out svn now... |
| 22:48.22 | KingRobot | blast: haha |
| 22:49.37 | KingRobot | JeffM: Are you using a persistent http connection or connecting each time? (Still downloading code) |
| 22:49.48 | blast007 | the actual stats program is somewhere under /trunk/web/ iirc |
| 22:49.56 | JeffM | oh god no |
| 22:50.02 | JeffM | HTTP is connectionless |
| 22:50.08 | JeffM | keeping that open would be silly |
| 22:50.18 | JeffM | it just fires off an update and is done |
| 22:50.32 | JeffM | latency isn't really an issue |
| 22:50.46 | KingRobot | JeffM: right, not latency, won't that be a heavy load? |
| 22:50.56 | JeffM | not really |
| 22:51.02 | JeffM | it's async |
| 22:51.08 | JeffM | happens in the backgorund |
| 22:51.27 | blast007 | I think having 300 connections to the server would add some load too ;) |
| 22:51.29 | JeffM | and it'll be the same bandwith,since it'll send the HTTP header with each request anywah |
| 22:52.07 | KingRobot | I was thinking of the stats server load, actually... |
| 22:52.07 | JeffM | yeah, keeping a conneciton open just wastes sockes |
| 22:52.26 | JeffM | how would the "load" be any different for it? |
| 22:52.42 | JeffM | opening and closing a socket is prety much nothing |
| 22:52.52 | KingRobot | true |
| 22:52.54 | JeffM | and it is designed to do that |
| 22:52.58 | JeffM | being a webserver and all |
| 22:53.15 | JeffM | rather then letting it hold connections open on a connectionless protocoll |
| 22:53.41 | JeffM | and for the majority of the servers, they won't have any data to send all the time |
| 22:53.45 | JeffM | since most are empty |
| 22:53.50 | KingRobot | right, I understand |
| 22:53.53 | JeffM | it's tied to events |
| 22:53.59 | JeffM | so when an event hits, you get a connection |
| 22:54.10 | JeffM | it sould be LESS load on the collecton server |
| 22:54.46 | JeffM | if load becomes an Issue, I'd change it to batch the updates |
| 22:54.53 | JeffM | but I'd never keep it conencted |
| 22:54.57 | JeffM | stuff in game dosn't change that fast |
| 22:54.59 | KingRobot | Right - you mentioned it was async - so, does it start a thread each time there is an event? |
| 22:55.08 | JeffM | no, it runs in thread |
| 22:55.10 | JeffM | but async |
| 22:55.16 | JeffM | same way as all our URL jobs |
| 22:55.27 | KingRobot | oh, okay |
| 22:55.35 | JeffM | it may be threaded later |
| 22:55.41 | JeffM | when the API curl system is |
| 22:55.48 | JeffM | but for now it dosn't care |
| 22:55.56 | JeffM | it just happens |
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| 23:01.57 | KingRobot | Ahh |
| 23:02.14 | KingRobot | So you have a special event for updating the stats |
| 23:02.22 | JeffM | no |
| 23:02.28 | JeffM | it just uses the standard event system |
| 23:02.33 | JeffM | join and part |
| 23:02.33 | KingRobot | what is eListServerUpdateEvent? |
| 23:02.43 | JeffM | that means we are going to update the list server |
| 23:04.06 | KingRobot | so it does not update when a player's score changes? |
| 23:04.23 | KingRobot | that's why I was thinking there would be high load :) |
| 23:04.51 | JeffM | no it does not |
| 23:05.03 | JeffM | as I said latency is not a concern |
| 23:05.12 | JeffM | it is not meant to give "live" up to the second stats |
| 23:05.23 | JeffM | they will be accurate up to the list server update time |
| 23:05.25 | JeffM | or on part |
| 23:06.12 | JeffM | if you want your servers to have "live" stats then that would be a job for your own custom plugin |
| 23:06.21 | JeffM | but it won't be a service we provide |
| 23:08.31 | JeffM | basicly we are exchanging our current system's lower latency for increased accuracy, less load, and support for external sites. |
| 23:08.58 | KingRobot | gotcha |
| 23:12.17 | KingRobot | So in essence, http://stats.bzflag.org/currentplayers.php will be accurate up to the latest player join/leave/listserve update on the respective servers? |
| 23:12.37 | JeffM | that page will probalby go away |
| 23:13.03 | JeffM | but yes our stats database basicly will ensure that your data will be accurate up to your last part |
| 23:13.04 | me1 | hi |
| 23:13.06 | JeffM | that's where we are sure |
| 23:15.41 | blast007 | will bzfs track the high score and low score for the session? or will it just report the score the player had when they left? |
| 23:16.00 | JeffM | that's what I'd like to add |
| 23:16.04 | JeffM | the bounds, etc.. |
| 23:16.07 | JeffM | and some averages |
| 23:16.42 | JeffM | max, min, kills, deaths, tks, time played, etc.. |
| 23:16.49 | JeffM | maybe even spawns |
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