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| 02:05.17 | spldart | wow... lots of "ASSERTION FAILED" |
| 02:05.22 | spldart | :) |
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| 03:21.38 | trepan | any plans to release within the next two weeks? ;-) |
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| 03:35.50 | spldart | Heh! |
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| 03:43.02 | leeguy92 | <tumbleweed> |
| 03:43.17 | spldart | Goin on 4 years now. Thought it was longer but 4 solid years. I joined when 2.0 was brand new off the presses.. or real close anyway. :) |
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| 03:44.42 | spldart | remembers back to hosting 1.7 servers |
| 03:47.48 | spldart | Nope.. I was wrong... 1.10 servers. I assume... That machine was claimed by a lightning flash. |
| 03:50.55 | blast007 | trepan: if you s/weeks/months/, then.. maybe |
| 03:51.56 | trepan | just wondering if my stuffs is "not-too-breaking" to commit it now -- will at least get the pain of windows compilation adjustments out of the way |
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| 03:55.51 | JeffM | just do it |
| 03:56.31 | trepan | 400k patch, 525K new files -- with 80 FIXMES and 2 pages of TODO left to go ;-) |
| 03:57.07 | trepan | will do, take a moment to write the commit log |
| 03:57.39 | spldart | ooOOoo... 8-D |
| 04:01.42 | JeffM | and this is your client side lua stuff? |
| 04:08.50 | trepan | yup |
| 04:09.16 | trepan | lots of stuff still missing, but it shouldn't break anything if the scripts aren't enabled |
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| 04:21.04 | blast007 | hmm, it's going to be "fun" if we ever convert to LDAP because of phpBB3's salted password hashes |
| 04:21.34 | JeffM | we can have an upgrade path |
| 04:21.51 | JeffM | where they login with old, nd pick a new one |
| 04:22.05 | blast007 | yeah |
| 04:22.55 | blast007 | another option I was just reading was storing a plain MD5 hash in a different column when they login (or change their password) |
| 04:23.58 | blast007 | though I do like your method better |
| 04:24.08 | blast007 | then we can choose what hashing method we want to use at that time |
| 04:24.19 | blast007 | (like salted SHA1) |
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| 04:50.43 | AAA_awright | blast007: You can just extend LDAP somehow, since LDAP does the authentication, not the client. |
| 04:50.53 | AAA_awright | *the LDAP server |
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| 04:52.35 | blast007 | AAA_awright: meaning... modify the source code of OpenLDAP and build our own version? |
| 04:53.15 | AAA_awright | Possibly both? |
| 04:53.29 | AAA_awright | I know OpenLDAP is extendable, idk to what extent |
| 04:53.53 | blast007 | thinks it's easier to make a basic "Update my password" web page |
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| 05:32.52 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: 03trepan * r19147 10/trunk/bzflag/ (191 files in 18 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 05:32.52 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: * added client-side lua scripting |
| 05:32.52 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: - there are two script spaces: |
| 05:32.52 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: 1. LuaWorld -- the code/media is packed into the world binary chunk by |
| 05:32.52 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: way of a BzDocket. The script name is "bzWorld.lua" |
| 05:32.53 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: 2. LuaUser -- the code is loaded from a directory specified by the |
| 05:32.55 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: luaUserDir BZDB variable. The script name is "bzUser.lua" |
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| 05:42.50 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: 03trepan * r19148 10/trunk/bzflag/src/lua/ (LuaUser.cxx LuaWorld.cxx Makefile): |
| 05:42.50 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: * remove 'Makefile' |
| 05:42.50 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: * fixed some LuaHandle VFS settings |
| 05:43.54 | iShock | Do BZW files have comments? |
| 05:45.07 | JeffM | yep |
| 05:46.33 | JeffM | yay... 2 things named lua, how awesome |
| 05:46.38 | iShock | #comment? |
| 05:46.47 | JeffM | what does the wiki page say? |
| 05:47.15 | iShock | Oh, there it is. |
| 05:47.41 | iShock | was hoping for /* */ |
| 05:47.46 | JeffM | why? |
| 05:48.06 | trepan | JeffM: what's the prob? |
| 05:48.13 | JeffM | 2 dirs named lua |
| 05:48.18 | iShock | Looks better :< |
| 05:48.20 | JeffM | can't name the projects the same as the dir |
| 05:51.28 | JeffM | iShock: a map file is not C |
| 05:51.38 | JeffM | # is a lot more common in scripts |
| 05:52.05 | iShock | /* */ works in more than C .. |
| 05:52.27 | JeffM | it is more of a programing language comment |
| 05:52.49 | iShock | # /* |
| 05:52.53 | iShock | # Comment! |
| 05:52.55 | iShock | # */ |
| 05:56.02 | JeffM | whatever floats your boat skip |
| 05:57.00 | iShock | Well, night. |
| 05:57.06 | JeffM | trepan: this stuff compiles? |
| 05:57.29 | JeffM | where is LuaFontTexture defined? |
| 05:57.29 | trepan | without any warnings |
| 05:57.38 | JeffM | that I can't belive |
| 05:57.47 | JeffM | LuaFontTexture.cxx |
| 05:57.51 | JeffM | it dosn't include anything |
| 05:57.56 | JeffM | how does it get the LuaFontTexture class? |
| 05:58.35 | JeffM | and like, it dosn't include <string> or anything |
| 05:59.16 | trepan | you are looking at LuaFontTexture.cxx ? |
| 05:59.24 | JeffM | yep |
| 05:59.35 | trepan | ah, never tested the stubbed version I guess |
| 05:59.42 | JeffM | includes common, has a #define, then starts busting out classes |
| 05:59.55 | trepan | that's just those 20 or so lines at the top, not the real sources |
| 06:00.00 | trepan | one sec |
| 06:00.12 | JeffM | I fixed it |
| 06:00.16 | JeffM | oh |
| 06:00.17 | JeffM | k |
| 06:00.27 | JeffM | now I have to find out what an int8_t is |
| 06:01.30 | trepan | stdint.h |
| 06:01.55 | JeffM | dosn't exizst |
| 06:01.57 | JeffM | exist |
| 06:02.26 | JeffM | at least it builds now |
| 06:02.43 | trepan | 1M commit, and only a tiny bit 'o stubbing problems ;-) |
| 06:03.52 | JeffM | only 84 warnings |
| 06:03.56 | JeffM | for the src/lua stuff |
| 06:04.16 | trepan | cast junk? |
| 06:04.21 | JeffM | some yeah |
| 06:04.26 | JeffM | and type saftey stuff |
| 06:04.39 | trepan | you fix, i'll review ... |
| 06:04.45 | JeffM | not gonna |
| 06:04.47 | JeffM | too many |
| 06:04.56 | JeffM | just trying to find the rest of the files now |
| 06:05.35 | trepan | going to commit to LuaFontTexture, or shall I? |
| 06:06.43 | JeffM | go for it |
| 06:06.46 | JeffM | all I did was add an include |
| 06:07.46 | JeffM | and there are NO security risks with this right? no way for the lua script to access the OS or filesystem or anything? |
| 06:08.14 | trepan | that's what the VFS is for |
| 06:08.15 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: 03trepan * r19149 10/trunk/bzflag/src/lua/LuaFontTexture.cxx: * added the missing includes for the HAVE_IL... stubbing |
| 06:08.31 | JeffM | that's files, but no other system calls, etc..? |
| 06:08.47 | trepan | and there are always some security risk, you think the 2.0.x series can't be stack crashed? |
| 06:08.55 | JeffM | no |
| 06:08.58 | trepan | nope, they'll be removed |
| 06:09.07 | JeffM | but I just had to ask |
| 06:09.07 | trepan | os.execute, io.popen, etc... |
| 06:09.59 | trepan | actually, the entire lua 'io' lib will be pulled |
| 06:10.15 | JeffM | will be? |
| 06:10.20 | trepan | yup |
| 06:10.25 | JeffM | as in from the scripts, or when you finish something later? |
| 06:10.31 | trepan | the latter |
| 06:10.40 | JeffM | when do you expect that to be done? |
| 06:10.52 | trepan | just before release? |
| 06:11.01 | JeffM | why not now? |
| 06:11.12 | trepan | because i can't type that fast? |
| 06:11.16 | JeffM | ok |
| 06:11.30 | JeffM | I just fear that if it gets forgoten we've opened up a world of exploit |
| 06:11.54 | trepan | easy enough to pull the whole thing |
| 06:12.01 | JeffM | answer to everything |
| 06:12.09 | trepan | exactly |
| 06:12.33 | JeffM | I'll just pull the windows client, then my part will be solved |
| 06:13.22 | trepan | sure would makes things easier :) |
| 06:13.37 | JeffM | so would turning off the internet |
| 06:13.57 | trepan | hell, big crunch or bust |
| 06:14.52 | trepan | clean 'svn co' and build here, no missing files this time |
| 06:15.18 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r19150 10/trunk/bzflag/TODO: mention securing lua |
| 06:16.25 | trepan | also need to remove game state visibility from LuaUser |
| 06:16.38 | trepan | to easy to setup ST/CL/CS/IB types of cheats |
| 06:16.41 | trepan | *too |
| 06:21.56 | JeffM | why dosn't eventClient.h just include the h files for firing info and flag? |
| 06:24.31 | JeffM | WTF... the lua stuff is used by client and server? |
| 06:25.24 | JeffM | oh, nevermind, just wierd build order on the quad |
| 06:26.33 | JeffM | wow, I'm am suprised this compiles |
| 06:26.42 | JeffM | you've defined FiringInfo as a class, when it's a struct |
| 06:27.08 | trepan | where? |
| 06:27.15 | JeffM | eventHandler.h |
| 06:27.28 | trepan | and LuaHandle.h |
| 06:27.33 | JeffM | yeah |
| 06:27.35 | JeffM | just hit that one |
| 06:27.36 | trepan | g++ apparently doesn't care... |
| 06:27.44 | JeffM | I went and includes the real headers in eventclient.h |
| 06:27.47 | JeffM | and am fixing |
| 06:28.18 | JeffM | explains why it failed to link for me :) |
| 06:28.42 | trepan | one reason why Spring's dev process was much nicer |
| 06:28.44 | trepan | buildbot |
| 06:29.08 | trepan | that coupled with the fact that they are pretty much forced to use mingw32 because of the sync issues |
| 06:29.38 | trepan | (floating point calcs have to be exactly the same on all clients) |
| 06:29.43 | JeffM | that woudl be a lot easier |
| 06:29.48 | JeffM | I'd not be working on the project then :) |
| 06:30.14 | trepan | no clicky / F5 to boast about :) |
| 06:30.25 | JeffM | no project file |
| 06:30.29 | JeffM | that's the big thing |
| 06:30.38 | JeffM | compiling is the minimal part for me |
| 06:30.50 | JeffM | it's the rest of it, integrated debuger, and all the files right there, etc.. |
| 06:30.58 | trepan | they actually do do MSVC builds, just can't use them in public |
| 06:31.14 | trepan | (iirc) |
| 06:31.46 | trepan | ya, there a build/vstudio8/ dir, probably it |
| 06:32.08 | trepan | heh, and scons, cmake, xcode, and kdevelop to round it off |
| 06:32.33 | JeffM | yeah having a build system that can make them is nice |
| 06:32.59 | trepan | the buildbot is sweet, let's a single dev make sure compilation works across the board |
| 06:33.20 | trepan | *lets ... that way, there's no excuses |
| 06:41.06 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r19151 10/trunk/bzflag/ (13 files in 5 dirs): make client side scripting compile on windows. |
| 06:41.48 | trepan | thanks |
| 06:41.56 | JeffM | sure |
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| 06:43.07 | trepan | why did you need the headers in EventClient.h? |
| 06:43.37 | JeffM | figured it was just easier then rediefining them |
| 06:43.48 | JeffM | that way if they change, it picks em up |
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| 06:44.00 | JeffM | I probably could have just made sure that it was defined correctly |
| 06:44.11 | trepan | was it just FiringInfo not being a struct? |
| 06:44.16 | JeffM | I think so |
| 06:44.27 | trepan | i'll change it to that then |
| 06:44.33 | JeffM | tho I don't think you need to define them in all 3 places |
| 06:44.37 | JeffM | just eventClient.h |
| 06:44.42 | JeffM | cus the other 2 include that |
| 06:44.47 | trepan | the reason for not including headers when not needed is too avoid unnecessary recompilation |
| 06:45.12 | JeffM | true |
| 06:45.24 | JeffM | just add some more cores :) |
| 06:45.42 | trepan | hehe, my dual-2GHz ain't what it used to be |
| 06:45.59 | trepan | actually, it is; the new kids just make it look puny |
| 06:46.56 | trepan | surprised you didn't get more errors in the BzVFS windows code |
| 06:47.06 | trepan | probably doesn't work ... not that lucky ;) |
| 06:47.45 | JeffM | I tested nothing |
| 07:00.03 | BulletCatcher | src/lua/Makefile.in is a generated file and should not be in SVN |
| 07:01.13 | JeffM | so pull it ;) |
| 07:01.48 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: 03trepan * r19152 10/trunk/bzflag/src/lua/Makefile.in: * remove Makefile.in |
| 07:01.55 | BulletCatcher | Thanks. |
| 07:01.55 | trepan | deleted src/lua/Makefile, missed the .in |
| 07:08.07 | BulletCatcher | LuaHandleCallIns.h is mentioned in the Makefile.am but is not in SVN |
| 07:08.35 | trepan | feel free to pull it from the list |
| 07:08.39 | BulletCatcher | Will do. |
| 07:09.37 | trepan | the other thing that I need to do is license the files |
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| 07:43.58 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: 03bullet_catcher * r19153 10/trunk/bzflag/src/ (bzflag/Makefile.am lua/Makefile.am): Remove references to files that do not exist. |
| 07:52.35 | trepan | BulletCatcher: thanks |
| 07:52.52 | BulletCatcher | np |
| 07:53.42 | trepan | oops, there was a README in src/lua |
| 07:54.09 | BulletCatcher | I trust you to fix it right. :-) |
| 07:57.21 | BulletCatcher | When I compile, include/EventClient.h can't find Player.h and ShotPath.h, which are in the src/bzflag directory. This can be fixed either by moving the .h files around, or by adding more -I options to the compiler. |
| 07:58.42 | trepan | i've revert jeff's changes over here |
| 07:58.46 | trepan | *reverted |
| 07:59.15 | trepan | one sec |
| 08:02.57 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: 03trepan * r19154 10/trunk/bzflag/ (13 files in 5 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 08:02.57 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: * added src/lua/README |
| 08:02.57 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: * removed the note about lua security (os.execute() and io.popen() were |
| 08:02.57 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: already blocked, now the io and package libraries have been completely |
| 08:02.57 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: removed) |
| 08:02.58 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: * added LuaWorld docket saving to /saveworld (-d to not save) |
| 08:03.00 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: * reverted the inclusion of some header files for windows compilation, |
| 08:03.03 | trepan | try that ... |
| 08:03.08 | BulletCatcher | k |
| 08:03.37 | trepan | what OS are you on? |
| 08:03.46 | BulletCatcher | 64-bit Fedora 10 |
| 08:03.51 | trepan | gfx card? |
| 08:03.56 | BulletCatcher | nvidia |
| 08:04.07 | trepan | 6, 7, 8, 9000 ? |
| 08:04.33 | BulletCatcher | GeForce 6100 |
| 08:04.43 | BulletCatcher | barely adequate for BZFlag |
| 08:05.16 | trepan | if you get the chance, try hitting the test server that's up |
| 08:06.04 | trepan | don't think it'll be able to do the fog |
| 08:06.26 | BulletCatcher | It takes my system about 18 minutes to compile, but I'll probably be in bed before it is done. I'll check it out tomorrow. |
| 08:06.40 | trepan | k, ciao |
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| 09:37.24 | joevano | ~L4m3r++ |
| 09:40.17 | L4m3r | not too inflammatory? :P |
| 09:40.45 | L4m3r | it took some restraint to not go... ballistic |
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| 10:04.17 | delusional | make[2]: *** [OpenGLGState.lo] Error 1 |
| 10:06.38 | delusional | lines 305 to 337 |
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| 12:11.02 | brad | from the wiki... |
| 12:11.02 | brad | BZF_API bool bz_IPBanUser ( const char* ipAddress, const char* ip, int durration, const char* reason ); |
| 12:11.18 | brad | ipAddress and ip as parameters? |
| 12:11.46 | brad | how is it supposed to work? |
| 12:38.26 | Chestal | the first parameter should be playerIndex, not ipAddress |
| 12:39.06 | brad | ah |
| 12:39.24 | brad | the index of the player being banned, or the banner? |
| 12:39.40 | brad | because...what happens if you want to ban an IP when they are not on the server? |
| 12:45.34 | Chestal | seems to be the banner |
| 12:46.31 | brad | ok:) |
| 12:47.09 | brad | so presumably it'd be ok to use BZ_SERVER ? |
| 12:50.58 | Chestal | hmm, I think it isn't, but I really don't know |
| 12:54.33 | brad | ok, thanks Chestal |
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| 16:19.04 | spldart | ping blast or anyone who can help me figure out my opengl problem http://pastebin.com/m1042ced6 |
| 16:22.46 | spldart | meh... brb |
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| 16:33.36 | spldart | back |
| 16:39.03 | blast007 | /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lGL |
| 16:39.31 | blast007 | is there some nVidia dev package? |
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| 16:40.29 | BulletCatcher | In Fedora the package containing libGL.so is mesa-libGL-devel . |
| 16:41.32 | blast007 | yeah, wasn't sure if nVidia had their own though |
| 16:41.41 | BulletCatcher | I don't think so. |
| 16:41.46 | blast007 | I can't recall if I installed the mesa dev packages or not |
| 16:41.47 | BulletCatcher | The README.Linux file contains a list of known package requirements for Debian & Ubuntu. |
| 16:45.14 | spldart | I've covered all the requirments listed in the readme... |
| 16:45.31 | spldart | although some versions very since it appears lenny is a bit further along. |
| 16:46.58 | spldart | s/very/vary |
| 16:47.02 | BulletCatcher | Do you have any files at all named libGL.* in /lib or /usr/lib? |
| 16:47.28 | spldart | don't think so |
| 16:47.59 | BulletCatcher | (or /lib64 + /usr/lib/64 on a 64-bit system) |
| 16:49.00 | blast007 | k, on my Ubuntu system, it's part of libgl1-mesa-dev |
| 16:49.31 | BulletCatcher | If you don't have it, then you need to find the appropriate package(s) for your distro. Please update the README.Linux file appropriately. |
| 16:57.28 | spldart | I definitely have the libgl1-mesa-dev package |
| 16:57.29 | spldart | hrm |
| 16:57.53 | blast007 | http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/334 <-- look at the 'apt-file' part |
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| 16:58.17 | spldart | Ah /usr/lib/libGL.so ? |
| 16:58.27 | spldart | found it |
| 16:58.30 | blast007 | k |
| 16:58.43 | spldart | stupid 'locate' |
| 16:58.52 | spldart | I need to never use a * in it |
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| 17:02.36 | spldart | Woah.... I haven't done anything to fix the problem since yesterday.... But configure is successful now. Could a reboot have corrected an issue? |
| 17:02.54 | blast007 | heh |
| 17:03.11 | blast007 | /etc/init.d/magic start |
| 17:03.18 | spldart | heh |
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| 17:06.48 | spldart | Ok... I've got my notes together.. I'll do a minor couple updates to that readme when I get home this evening. |
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| 17:09.46 | spldart | is the FontManager wonky right now? |
| 17:10.06 | blast007 | wonky how? |
| 17:10.35 | spldart | http://pastebin.bzflag.bz/m50bdb4e5 |
| 17:12.27 | blast007 | try adding this to your configure: --enable-ftgl-build |
| 17:14.16 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: 03trepan * r19157 10/trunk/bzflag/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 17:14.16 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: * LuaBzMaterial improvements |
| 17:14.18 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: - renamed all call-outs from bz.GetBzMat...() to bz.GetMaterial...() |
| 17:14.18 | spldart | Oki doke |
| 17:14.20 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: - added bz.FindMaterial(number | string) -> nil | number |
| 17:14.22 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: - added bz.GetMaterialCount() -> number |
| 17:14.24 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: - lua material IDs now use 1..N format |
| 17:15.36 | spldart | No change |
| 17:16.24 | blast007 | shrugs |
| 17:16.33 | blast007 | let me fire up my linux system |
| 17:16.36 | spldart | bangs on problem some more |
| 17:16.52 | spldart | I might get this myself if I'm real lucky ;) |
| 17:17.17 | blast007 | ;) |
| 17:18.20 | brad | *** '' joined the game as Observer. *** '' left the game. |
| 17:18.30 | brad | bzadmin is a little broken on 2.99 :p |
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| 17:20.07 | joevano | anyone here also on the irc.thinstack.net network? I'm having problems connecting and am not sure if it is me or them |
| 17:20.49 | spldart | Oh wow. I made ftgl even m0re verbosely complaintive |
| 17:21.10 | brad | joevano: no, but I just tried and it works |
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| 17:21.22 | joevano | brad: thanks |
| 17:22.11 | joevano | i had a feeling it was me, was messing with my irssi config this morning, but I thought they were up after that |
| 17:22.24 | spldart | http://pastebin.bzflag.bz/m2b5c0ef4 |
| 17:26.54 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: 03trepan * r19158 10/trunk/bzflag/src/lua/ (LuaBzMaterial.cxx LuaExtras.cxx LuaExtras.h LuaHandle.cxx): |
| 17:26.54 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: * added debug.traceback() into the global table as 'traceback' |
| 17:26.54 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: (even when the debug library is not loaded) |
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| 17:34.20 | blast007` | LuaInclude.h: In function void LuaLog(const std::string&): |
| 17:34.20 | blast007` | LuaInclude.h:39: error: format not a string literal and no format arguments |
| 17:34.31 | blast007` | not sure of the "correct" way to fix that |
| 17:35.49 | blast007` | if I replace " printf(msg.c_str());" with " printf("%s", msg.c_str());" it fixes the error. |
| 17:36.11 | blast007` | (found that kind of a change in a patch for madwifi) |
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| 17:41.27 | spldart | So it was a bug in the code? |
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| 17:42.11 | blast007 | spldart: no, mine was unrelated to yours |
| 17:42.25 | spldart | oh |
| 17:42.26 | blast007 | you seem to have a local copy of FTGL installed |
| 17:42.39 | spldart | I do now after the first pastebin error |
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| 17:43.19 | blast007 | ah, yeah, guess that is a different one |
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| 17:43.37 | spldart | So the m50bdb4e5 is pre local and m2b5c0ef4 is post local install |
| 17:43.56 | spldart | should I just ditch the local copy? |
| 17:44.04 | blast007 | let me see if mine builds |
| 17:44.09 | spldart | k |
| 17:44.15 | blast007 | my linux system locked up hard :P |
| 17:44.37 | spldart | doh |
| 17:46.18 | leeguy92 | linux?? not perfect???? LIES! |
| 17:46.58 | spldart | I had my only full on hard lockup in linux for the last 6 months to a year just recently ;-p |
| 17:47.11 | blast007 | will blame X-Chat |
| 17:47.24 | blast007 | didn't do it until I ran that ;) |
| 17:47.43 | blast007 | probably locked up when Jeff responded to my PM.. |
| 17:47.50 | spldart | I'm guessing the more it looks like windows and smells like windows and tastes like windows the more it will misbehave like windows. |
| 17:48.27 | blast007 | well, linux is now as stable as my Vista system :) |
| 17:48.33 | JefferyM | just because you didn't pay for the software dosn't mean the people that wrote it didn't make misakes. |
| 17:48.37 | blast007 | I've had only one BSOD on vista |
| 17:49.05 | blast007 | and technically that was my fault because I was screwing around with drivers |
| 17:49.56 | blast007 | spldart: it built fine here |
| 17:50.23 | JefferyM | you had to hit a kernel bug of some sort, an app is not suposed to be able to take down the system |
| 17:50.39 | blast007 | right |
| 17:50.57 | spldart | Well.. poop... I wonder what my fontmanager issue is :( |
| 17:51.07 | blast007 | spldart: try a clean checkout |
| 17:51.26 | blast007 | or if you have the SVN scripts, run 'svn-clean' in your source directory |
| 17:51.27 | spldart | should I ditch the debian repo ftgl stuff? |
| 17:51.34 | blast007 | yeah |
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| 17:52.59 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: 03blast007 * r19159 10/trunk/bzflag/src/lua/LuaInclude.h: Fix the "format not a string literal and no format arguments" error. |
| 17:55.30 | trepan | blast007: error or warning? compiler/os? |
| 17:57.01 | blast007 | it was an error during a debug build with GCC/G++ 4.3.2 on Ubuntu 8.10 |
| 17:57.18 | trepan | -Werror -- so probably a warning |
| 17:57.22 | trepan | good to know |
| 17:58.17 | trepan | need to clean up the logging junk, FIXMEs abound ;-) |
| 17:58.55 | trepan | on that note, can windows user see stdout from bzflag.exe? |
| 17:59.02 | JefferyM | no |
| 17:59.13 | JefferyM | not with out some changes |
| 17:59.22 | JefferyM | you should call the debug log functions |
| 17:59.46 | trepan | it's not just about what "i should do" |
| 18:00.25 | JefferyM | then it sounds like you know the answer |
| 18:00.42 | trepan | yes, i do ;-) |
| 18:03.26 | blast007 | Wee, phpBB3 auth is a RAM hog. On exit, my script with LDAP used 126KB (Peak 154KB) vs phpBB3's 2,061KB (Peak 3,555KB) |
| 18:03.51 | blast007 | the LDAP also runs over 10 times as fast at around 13ms compared to 150ms for phpBB3 :) |
| 18:05.20 | blast007 | though I did tweak the phpBB3 to get it down to about 1,192KB (Peak 2,686KB) and 120ms |
| 18:06.22 | L4m3r | well, if you just want performance, make it accept all logins and wait to see how long it takes for someone to notice ;) |
| 18:13.21 | blast007 | L4m3r: actually I have a 'dummy' auth plugin that does that ;) |
| 18:14.47 | blast007 | LDAP only uses 11 to 20KB more memory than the dummy stuff, and takes about 8ms longer |
| 18:16.27 | joevano | ~L4m3r++ |
| 18:17.27 | L4m3r | blast007: so do you intend to roll your own LDAP plugin? |
| 18:17.47 | blast007 | L4m3r: no, this isn't for phpBB3 |
| 18:17.51 | blast007 | this is a web framework |
| 18:18.07 | blast007 | I'm writing various auth plugins for it |
| 18:18.26 | blast007 | the phpBB3 one actually includes some files from phpBB |
| 18:19.05 | blast007 | which is why it's so memory hungry. Includes functions.php, and a couple of the UTF-8 handling files (which in turn include UTF-8 data files) |
| 18:24.02 | L4m3r | oh, heh |
| 18:25.38 | blast007 | (and I use the same solution for phpBB in the list server, weblogin, and the list server admin, so they all eat up an extra 2 to 3MB every request....) |
| 18:28.39 | spldart | Get this. Fresh checkout and my "no client. Need opengl" is back again 8-0 |
| 18:28.46 | blast007 | heh |
| 18:28.53 | blast007 | install Windows |
| 18:28.55 | blast007 | ducks |
| 18:28.59 | spldart | I'm calling it quits for today. |
| 18:29.04 | spldart | yikes |
| 18:29.08 | spldart | wait... |
| 18:29.20 | spldart | #/etc/init.d/magic restart |
| 18:29.26 | blast007 | ;D |
| 19:07.19 | joevano | GSoC 2009 has recieved Google Exective approval... time to start recruiting ;) |
| 19:07.42 | joevano | it will be smaller this year (less students... fewer orgs) |
| 19:09.33 | JefferyM | I woudl not recruit untill we apply |
| 19:09.44 | JefferyM | and we need to make some big changes in how we do stuff |
| 19:11.14 | joevano | yeah, that is what the wink was for |
| 19:11.35 | JefferyM | in fact I'm not entirely sure we should apply this year |
| 19:11.42 | JefferyM | we have enough of our own issues to solve |
| 19:19.00 | JefferyM | it's not like we've taken lots of time to integrate the other SoC projects |
| 19:35.40 | leeguy92 | wha????? i just minimized bzflag like 3 secs ago. w00t SoC!! |
| 19:36.02 | me1 | leeguy92, read |
| 19:36.13 | leeguy92 | ah....oh.....aww.... |
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| 21:27.05 | blast007 | trepan: is the ground fog supposed to obscure bullets this much? http://static.bzexcess.com/svn_trunk_screenshots/bzfi0001.png |
| 21:42.06 | trepan | blast007: it's only a demo ;-) |
| 21:42.35 | trepan | the better way to do it is to build the effect into each shader |
| 21:42.52 | blast007 | k |
| 21:46.41 | trepan | if you save the world, and take a look in the docket dir, you'll see that that code is a complete mess |
| 21:46.52 | trepan | (gui_fog_shader.lua) |
| 21:47.16 | trepan | it's supposed to be used with a lua module manager, but that doesn't exist for bz yet |
| 21:51.06 | joevano | wow, impressive |
| 21:55.57 | TimRiker | if you're doing fog, does that mean we can stop sending updates for far away tanks? :) |
| 21:56.20 | trepan | uhm, tim, bz already has fog |
| 21:56.35 | TimRiker | ie: stop rendering the "fog hidden" tanks even on fog-challenged machines. |
| 21:56.44 | JefferyM | TimRiker, no not yet |
| 21:56.57 | JefferyM | we need more accurate data on the server where players are |
| 21:57.00 | TimRiker | trepan: yes, I meant enabling it as a game feature, not just an available feature. |
| 21:57.41 | JefferyM | we can do it with out fog, we have the technology |
| 21:57.45 | JefferyM | just not the drive ;) |
| 21:58.20 | TimRiker | JefferyM: nod.. server at least knows where the last updated position was which is likely accurate enough for distant tanks. |
| 21:58.34 | JefferyM | TimRiker, not with teleporters, and shots |
| 21:58.37 | JefferyM | but it's a start |
| 21:59.01 | JefferyM | the server actualy does DR now |
| 21:59.05 | JefferyM | tho it's wrong |
| 21:59.13 | TimRiker | teleporters should generate a position update when a tank goes though.. though shooting into one still has the issue. |
| 21:59.27 | JefferyM | yeah it's shots that are the big thing |
| 21:59.32 | JefferyM | server still dosn't know anyting about shots |
| 21:59.39 | JefferyM | and they seem to be the bandwith hogs |
| 21:59.42 | JefferyM | as there are lots of them |
| 21:59.51 | TimRiker | the target should get the correct shot position though. so if you can guess well enough, you should hit well enough. |
| 22:00.18 | JefferyM | patches welcome |
| 22:00.29 | TimRiker | you just won't be able to zoom out and look at radar to track those on the other side of a teleporter. |
| 22:00.39 | JefferyM | unless we change how radar is done ;) |
| 22:00.40 | TimRiker | you'd be effectively shooting in the dark. |
| 22:00.48 | JefferyM | wants to split radar updates out |
| 22:01.06 | TimRiker | right.. that's what I meant. remove "distant" tanks from the radar and viewport. |
| 22:01.14 | JefferyM | no, I Mean have 2 updates |
| 22:01.28 | JefferyM | one for visual objects (tanks, shots, etc) and one for radar objects |
| 22:01.45 | TimRiker | eek. why? isn't that just doubling the traffic? |
| 22:01.52 | JefferyM | lots of reasons |
| 22:02.49 | TimRiker | hacked clients can still generate one from the other update, so you can't really enforce disabling radar etc. |
| 22:02.50 | JefferyM | one they don't have to be as accurate and can be a LOT smaller |
| 22:03.01 | JefferyM | true, but you can make it harder |
| 22:03.08 | JefferyM | second they don't need to be updated as often |
| 22:03.15 | JefferyM | and thrird then you can have server side radar logic |
| 22:03.17 | TimRiker | since you have to send the viewport update, I don't see the point in also sending a radar update. |
| 22:03.25 | JefferyM | I know you don't |
| 22:03.41 | JefferyM | the thing is, as you've said, you don't have to send the viewport update |
| 22:03.48 | JefferyM | for distant tanks |
| 22:03.50 | TimRiker | you can't really have server side radar logic for the above reason. the client gets the viewport info anyway. |
| 22:03.53 | JefferyM | or occluded tanks |
| 22:04.04 | JefferyM | they can each have there own seperate logics |
| 22:04.10 | JefferyM | but it was just an idea |
| 22:04.15 | JefferyM | it's not our bigest problem right now |
| 22:04.30 | JefferyM | impending doom is |
| 22:04.41 | TimRiker | heh |
| 22:04.49 | JefferyM | wishes he was joking |
| 22:04.52 | TimRiker | get Obama to fix it. |
| 22:05.02 | JefferyM | if we had one, I would |
| 22:05.04 | JefferyM | it's what we need |
| 22:05.07 | JefferyM | and we don't have one |
| 22:21.54 | Erroneous | clones! |
| 22:24.58 | JefferyM | or something |
| 22:25.02 | JefferyM | anything |
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| 22:26.57 | JefferyM | at least he got to participate in an election ;) |
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| 22:30.59 | TJ13820 | The beta build of BZFlag for 1/1/09 will not load in windows vista. "its side-by-side configuration is incorrect" |
| 22:31.31 | blast007 | try building your own |
| 22:31.49 | JefferyM | no |
| 22:31.53 | JefferyM | install the VC9 runtimes |
| 22:31.59 | blast007 | ah |
| 22:32.03 | JefferyM | you must have the runtimes |
| 22:32.11 | JefferyM | I put a note in the installer text |
| 22:32.23 | JefferyM | we ahve to make the installer check for them at some point |
| 22:32.33 | TJ13820 | ah! do you have a link for the doanload? |
| 22:32.35 | JefferyM | TJ13820, go find the Visual C++ 2008 runtimes |
| 22:32.37 | JefferyM | google |
| 22:32.41 | TJ13820 | ah, okay |
| 22:32.42 | JefferyM | it ain't that hard to find |
| 22:32.55 | JefferyM | it may be called "redisributal" |
| 22:32.57 | JefferyM | or something |
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| 22:33.16 | JefferyM | http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=9b2da534-3e03-4391-8a4d-074b9f2bc1bf&displaylang=en |
| 22:34.09 | TJ13820 | yup, that's what i got to |
| 22:34.18 | TJ13820 | but for x64 |
| 22:34.27 | JefferyM | you need the x32 ones |
| 22:34.31 | JefferyM | bzflag is a 32 bit app |
| 22:34.42 | TJ13820 | okay |
| 22:34.49 | JefferyM | you really should install both |
| 22:34.57 | JefferyM | that'll make your system run anything |
| 22:35.29 | blast007 | would he want the 2008 one with SP1? or doesn't it matter? |
| 22:35.43 | JefferyM | SP1 won't hurt |
| 22:36.25 | TJ13820 | that's what i was going to do :) I would imagine they would have made a x86_64 build of it or a universal installer. I may just install my Microsoft Development tools instead of the Dev Package |
| 22:39.22 | TJ13820 | and while i'm here, is it just my system or is there not any sound integration yet? |
| 22:41.05 | blast007 | "sound integration" ? |
| 22:41.12 | Think_Differentl | like, stuff coming out the speakers? |
| 22:41.30 | TJ13820 | yeah |
| 22:41.52 | TJ13820 | i have no sound and in audio properties, the "Sound Volume" - "Not Available" |
| 22:42.02 | blast007 | eh |
| 22:42.23 | blast007 | can't say I've tried that build on Vista |
| 22:42.38 | TJ13820 | I have an HP DV4 with IDT HDAudio, that may be the issue. |
| 22:42.44 | TJ13820 | I'll run it in administrative permissions mode |
| 22:43.25 | TJ13820 | on startup - "Audio Driver: " |
| 22:43.28 | TJ13820 | nothing |
| 22:44.54 | blast007 | I think that part is normal for Windows |
| 22:45.10 | TJ13820 | okay, 2.0.10 shows that also, but gives me audio. |
| 22:45.15 | blast007 | yeah |
| 22:47.02 | TJ13820 | most likely due to new drivers. I'll wait for a new revision and try it out for the look for now :) |
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| 22:47.09 | TJ13820 | Great job guys/gals :) |
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| 22:53.31 | JefferyM | nothing has changed with sound in ages |
| 22:55.26 | JefferyM | do you have a valid default sound device? |
| 22:56.20 | blast007 | it works in 2.0.10 for him |
| 22:56.41 | JefferyM | wierd |
| 22:56.59 | JefferyM | I did absract some of the classes, but it should load up just fine |
| 22:58.21 | JefferyM | no mater what it's suposed to default to platformSound |
| 22:58.23 | blast007 | if anything, I'm wondering if it's the difference in what DirectX SDK was used |
| 22:58.49 | JefferyM | I'm prety sure I get sound at home |
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| 23:23.03 | TJ13820 | JefferyM: yes, i have a default device. IDT HDAudio. It is an HP Pavillion DV4 notebook |
| 23:23.11 | TJ13820 | sorry for the late reply, i was eating :) |
| 23:26.26 | JefferyM | wierd |
| 23:26.44 | JefferyM | do you have anything in your config called "soundsystem" ? |
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| 23:37.03 | delusional | here's my build failure http://pastebin.bzflag.bz/m6b3828a4 |
| 23:38.43 | temp_dist | that's the same error that i've been getting |
| 23:39.26 | delusional | in OGL, EventHandler.h |
| 23:40.37 | JefferyM | hence why macros are evil |
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