| 00:03.13 | Flash | delusional: I'm not sure about that.... let me check 2.0.x |
| 00:03.41 | me1 | hmm, "LINK : fatal error LNK1104: cannot open file 'GLEW.lib'", latest revision, 2.99.x, MSVC9 |
| 00:03.46 | me1 | bzflag project |
| 00:04.42 | JeffM | is it a clean tree? |
| 00:05.25 | me1 | oh yeah |
| 00:05.34 | me1 | it wasn't |
| 00:05.51 | delusional | mine was, i got all new source 2 hours ago |
| 00:06.10 | JeffM | I know nothing abou your mac delusional |
| 00:06.48 | Flash | ok, BZFlag.app/Contents/Plugins *used* to have the plugins. I haven't built a 2.99 xcode project in a while; let me fire it up |
| 00:06.54 | blast007 | BulletCatcher: one thing I just noticed is that (at least with 2.0.8 on VectorLinux and Fedora 8) when you go through a teleporter on one of the buildings in metropolis that it flashes "Sealed" for a split second |
| 00:07.36 | blast007 | and I also heard the 'landing' sound effect when I moved at full speed through a teleporter in a sewer (the sound occursed after I came through the teleporter on one of the buildings) |
| 00:07.47 | blast007 | the sewer* |
| 00:08.18 | blast007 | updating the fedora 8 bzflag to 2.0.12 to see if it does anything different |
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| 00:24.21 | blast007 | larts JeffM |
| 00:24.24 | blast007 | "Your message contains too many URLs. The maximum number of URLs allowed is 5." |
| 00:24.49 | blast007 | was trying to add [OUTDATED] to my old forum post for a build of 2.99.7 ;) |
| 00:24.59 | Flash | delusional: the 2.99 project does not copy the plugins. I don't know why |
| 00:25.17 | Flash | I suppose I can fix it and let someone gripe if there was a good reason not to... |
| 00:27.12 | JeffM | heh |
| 00:27.18 | JeffM | so increase it |
| 00:27.48 | blast007 | I put it to 6, submit the edit, and then put it back :) |
| 00:27.59 | JeffM | 6 is probably fine |
| 00:28.36 | blast007 | k, back to 6 then |
| 00:33.37 | delusional | flash, that would be quite cool. The are supposed to be inside the app. right? |
| 00:33.45 | Flash | yes |
| 00:33.52 | Flash | the app is just a packaging mechanism |
| 00:34.08 | Flash | it's really just a directory, but in the Finder, it looks like an object |
| 00:34.11 | delusional | plz ping me if you include them |
| 00:34.18 | Flash | testing now |
| 00:34.24 | JeffM | noone will, they should be in there |
| 00:34.30 | JeffM | we talked about it and agrreed |
| 00:34.36 | JeffM | pack the plugins for 3 |
| 00:34.41 | JeffM | since plugins are now on by default |
| 00:37.29 | blast007 | BulletCatcher: just got sealed on Fedora 8 with their 2.0.12 package |
| 00:38.30 | BulletCatcher | Huh. It worked fine for me on 64-bit. |
| 00:38.40 | BulletCatcher | 64-bit F8, that is |
| 00:38.46 | iShock | shivers |
| 00:40.11 | BulletCatcher | I am running 64-bit Fedora 10 now (with their BZFlag package), but I can still dual-boot back to 64-bit Fedora 8 if needed. |
| 00:40.30 | me1 | lights iShock on fire |
| 00:40.32 | me1 | warmer? |
| 00:40.38 | blast007 | yeah, 32-bit here |
| 00:40.40 | blast007 | in vmware |
| 00:40.59 | blast007 | but it didn't get stuck in 2.0.8, just 2.0.12 |
| 00:41.10 | BulletCatcher | Weird. |
| 00:42.06 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: 03jwmelto * r19143 10/trunk/bzflag/BZFlag.xcodeproj/project.pbxproj: |
| 00:42.06 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: The major change here was to include the plugins in the build product. |
| 00:42.06 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: However, there may be some other things that my XCode did to the project |
| 00:42.06 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: that are incompatible with older XCodes or non-Intel machines. |
| 00:42.10 | Flash | delusional: try that |
| 00:42.57 | iShock | jwmelto? |
| 00:43.14 | Flash | iShock: Flash was already taken on SourceForge |
| 00:43.24 | iShock | Oh, it's you. |
| 00:43.31 | JeffM | real names are better ;) |
| 00:43.50 | trepan | begs to differ ;) |
| 00:43.56 | BulletCatcher | No they aren't. :-) |
| 00:44.09 | Flash | yes, Mr. Anderson, they are |
| 00:44.13 | JeffM | at least we don't have trust issues |
| 00:44.23 | delusional | ok flash |
| 00:44.37 | trepan | too trusting you say? :) |
| 00:44.41 | iShock | God damn .. I do all that work on my map, then can't log into the box! |
| 00:45.02 | blast007 | try logging in to the pyramid instead |
| 00:45.04 | Flash | the other difference I see between 2.0 and 2.99 is that 2.0 includes a .plist and 2.99 does not. I'm not sure about that |
| 00:45.31 | joevano | ~blast007++ |
| 00:45.39 | Flash | iShock: please curse to your screen and restrain your typing |
| 00:45.41 | iShock | joevano: You busy? |
| 00:45.59 | joevano | nope giving up working for the rest of the night |
| 00:46.04 | iShock | Aw :( |
| 00:46.09 | Flash | ~joevano++ |
| 00:46.25 | me1 | ~joevano007++ |
| 00:46.25 | iShock | Was gonna ask you to rename the jumble.* groups to bzhtf.* |
| 00:46.46 | joevano | 3why rename em.. they still work |
| 00:46.58 | joevano | its just busy work |
| 00:47.12 | Flash | me1: or should I ask me1007? |
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| 00:47.30 | *** mode/#bzflag [+v spldart] by ChanServ |
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| 00:47.39 | Flash | ~bzfrag spldart |
| 00:47.40 | ibot | ACTION blindsides spldart with an invisible bullet |
| 00:47.50 | me1 | *boom* |
| 00:47.58 | Flash | never saw it coming ;-) |
| 00:48.12 | iShock | lights a match |
| 00:48.15 | spldart | 's view cracks |
| 00:48.18 | blast007 | he probably wasn't even synced to the channel yet. Poor guy. ;) |
| 00:48.29 | iShock | tosses Flash some soap |
| 00:48.49 | spldart | Flash is a spawn camper ;) |
| 00:49.06 | blast007 | hehe |
| 00:49.39 | iShock | slaps sshd |
| 00:51.38 | iShock | Don't! |
| 00:51.40 | iShock | Noober. |
| 00:51.46 | blast007 | ? |
| 00:51.49 | iShock | Uh. |
| 00:51.51 | iShock | Wrong window. |
| 00:52.19 | BulletCatcher | Time to change your password, iShock. |
| 00:52.42 | iShock | wonders why |
| 00:52.56 | BulletCatcher | It's not "Noober." ? |
| 00:52.58 | blast007 | logs in as Don't! with the password Noober. |
| 00:53.11 | spldart | heh |
| 00:53.12 | iShock | Oh no. Someone broadcasted a message on this box |
| 00:53.16 | iShock | And it messed irssi up |
| 00:53.30 | blast007 | "Broadcast: irssi is messed up" |
| 00:53.32 | iShock | So I thought I was calling him a noober, but it was the wrong /window |
| 00:55.51 | Flash | NOW who's the noober? |
| 00:56.24 | blast007 | hehe |
| 00:57.01 | iShock | Do people actually pay for the *.bzflag.net server things? |
| 00:57.35 | me1 | JeffM, same error |
| 00:57.53 | blast007 | iShock: server things? huh? |
| 00:58.11 | iShock | blast007: like bzf.bzflag.net:5160 |
| 00:58.33 | blast007 | right, what part are you asking about though |
| 00:58.36 | blast007 | the server they run it on |
| 00:58.38 | blast007 | or the hostname |
| 00:58.50 | iShock | Do they pay for the bzflag.net hostname or what? |
| 00:58.54 | blast007 | no |
| 00:59.19 | iShock | Are they available to anyone? |
| 00:59.43 | blast007 | only if you take a picture of yourself hugging the computer screen with BZFlag running on it |
| 00:59.55 | me1 | "1 sec" |
| 01:00.02 | iShock | Really? |
| 01:00.07 | blast007 | uh, no.. |
| 01:00.09 | iShock | Lemme get dressed and find my camera then :o |
| 01:00.17 | spldart | hehe |
| 01:00.18 | blast007 | >.< |
| 01:00.23 | spldart | x_x |
| 01:00.28 | spldart | I'm blind |
| 01:00.29 | Flash | delusional: I think that should be it... the .plist is part of the project |
| 01:00.49 | me1 | iShock, wait, "get dressed?" |
| 01:00.54 | me1 | >_< |
| 01:00.54 | iShock | Don't ask. |
| 01:00.56 | Flash | spldart: that's because I shot you with an invisible bullet |
| 01:01.10 | blast007 | Flash: my memory might be incorrect, but I recall someone saying that ./configure creates the .plist file |
| 01:01.13 | iShock | So, blast007, are they available for anyone who asks? |
| 01:01.23 | blast007 | iShock: email tim |
| 01:01.31 | iShock | tim@rikers.org? |
| 01:01.33 | Flash | blast007: it very well may; it is correct with the version numbers |
| 01:01.59 | delusional | flash.. ready to build now.. should I use xcodebuild from the terminal, or build with xcode.app |
| 01:02.01 | Flash | but in 2.0.x there was a build step to explicitly copy the plist and in 2.99 it's just listed as part of the project |
| 01:02.11 | blast007 | I think the problem was that the XCode stuff expects it to be there before you can build, but XCode does run the ./configure script when you go to build |
| 01:02.14 | Flash | delusional: I've always used the GUI |
| 01:02.24 | delusional | ok |
| 01:02.28 | blast007 | so you have to first run ./configure from the terminal, and then you can do the XCode stuf |
| 01:02.31 | blast007 | stuff* |
| 01:02.53 | Flash | hmmmm. I've never tried XCode on a virgin source tree |
| 01:03.26 | delusional | yeah, I always autogen and configure in the terminal first |
| 01:03.35 | blast007 | iShock: sure |
| 01:04.04 | iShock | sent |
| 01:04.53 | JeffM | iShock: are you on a static IP? |
| 01:05.02 | JeffM | me1: what build target? |
| 01:05.30 | iShock | JeffM: Does it have to point to an IP or can it point to another hostname I have the power to update if my IP changes? |
| 01:05.42 | JeffM | you need to tell tim what one you want |
| 01:05.49 | JeffM | if it's an IP it has to be static |
| 01:06.16 | iShock | I told him I wantex bzhtf.bzflag.net to point to vertex.cluenet.org |
| 01:06.30 | JeffM | k |
| 01:06.37 | me1 | JeffM, sorry, build target? you mean the project? |
| 01:06.49 | JeffM | debug, release, debug_distro ? |
| 01:06.53 | me1 | debug |
| 01:07.13 | JeffM | what project asks for the lib? |
| 01:07.16 | me1 | bzflag |
| 01:07.16 | blast007 | I had the error on debug_distro, but I haven't tried a clean build yet |
| 01:07.33 | iShock | beats up on his map |
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| 01:08.17 | delusional | build succeeded in xcode dev config..... still no plugins flash |
| 01:08.20 | JeffM | right click on the bzflag project in the solution list |
| 01:08.25 | JeffM | hit properties |
| 01:08.29 | JeffM | go down to linker |
| 01:08.36 | JeffM | go to input |
| 01:08.52 | JeffM | is glew.lib listed under the additional dependencies? |
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| 01:09.42 | iShock | Does anyone know how to fix the sides of the base? http://vertex.cluenet.org/~lee/bzfi0093.png |
| 01:09.54 | iShock | The middle one is right, the two on the sides are the wrong ones. |
| 01:10.07 | delusional | solutions list? |
| 01:10.29 | delusional | products? |
| 01:10.30 | JeffM | delusional: not you |
| 01:10.35 | JeffM | flash |
| 01:10.39 | JeffM | sorry me1 |
| 01:10.43 | JeffM | the person I was talkuing to |
| 01:10.48 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r19144 10/trunk/bzflag/MSVC/build/bzflag.vcproj: debug_distribution does not need glew anymore |
| 01:10.59 | Flash | JeffM: I don't know |
| 01:11.01 | JeffM | me1: you sure you wern't running debug_distrobution? |
| 01:11.13 | JeffM | Flash: not you , me1, I typoed |
| 01:11.22 | JeffM | thinking that delusional was working with you |
| 01:11.35 | JeffM | brain->finger interface dosn't have many checksums |
| 01:11.45 | iShock | pokes any active people |
| 01:11.56 | delusional | too much multitasking... |
| 01:12.00 | Flash | delusional: they should be in build/Development/BZFlag.app/Contents/PlugIns |
| 01:12.10 | blast007 | iShock: just ask... |
| 01:12.14 | JeffM | iShock: change the UV |
| 01:12.17 | delusional | thats where im looking flash |
| 01:12.29 | iShock | blast007: I did. JeffM, that on the wiki? |
| 01:12.34 | blast007 | k |
| 01:12.39 | JeffM | sure |
| 01:12.44 | blast007 | then wait |
| 01:13.27 | Flash | delusional: can you look at BZFlag.xcodeproj/project.pbxproj in a text editor (like vi) |
| 01:13.35 | Flash | and look at line 186 |
| 01:13.41 | JeffM | me1: I think you were using the distrobution target |
| 01:13.54 | iShock | JeffM, I don't see anything about it. |
| 01:14.01 | JeffM | iShock: texture matrix |
| 01:14.03 | Flash | it's several run-on lines, because it uses the Mac native eol |
| 01:14.11 | JeffM | or change the UVS directly on your mesh |
| 01:15.04 | blast007 | JeffM: is the difference between dist and non-dist just pdcurses now? |
| 01:15.10 | JeffM | yeah |
| 01:15.11 | iShock | is confused by JeffM's foreign stuff |
| 01:15.44 | JeffM | and at some point I'd like to have the project build the HTML pages, and call the installer, figure they will go there |
| 01:15.55 | JeffM | iShock: it's not, it's part of modeling |
| 01:16.00 | blast007 | ah |
| 01:16.02 | JeffM | you can't do what you want with a simple box |
| 01:16.09 | JeffM | you need to use the mesh stuff |
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| 01:16.57 | me1 | JeffM, glew.lib is there |
| 01:17.01 | iShock | How would I change the UVs durectly? |
| 01:17.05 | JeffM | me1: what target are you on? |
| 01:17.09 | JeffM | iShock: define the box as a mesh |
| 01:17.12 | me1 | and yeah, i am building debug_dist, whoops |
| 01:17.18 | JeffM | yeah build debug |
| 01:17.20 | me1 | forgot to change it |
| 01:17.22 | JeffM | dist had an issue |
| 01:17.25 | JeffM | but that's fixed now |
| 01:17.46 | me1 | i was using the bzflag sln, and switched to the fullbuild, musta forgot to set it to debug |
| 01:17.48 | iShock | meshbox? |
| 01:17.54 | JeffM | no, a mesh |
| 01:17.58 | JeffM | mesh is an object |
| 01:18.06 | JeffM | it lets you define anything |
| 01:18.48 | iShock | takes one look at the wiki page and faints |
| 01:19.03 | JeffM | dude, this isn't high school, lay off the drama class |
| 01:19.53 | iShock | Seriously, it makes no sense. |
| 01:20.01 | Winny | sure it does |
| 01:20.19 | JeffM | just because you don't have the background dosn't mean it dosn't make sense to anyone else |
| 01:20.22 | me1 | iShock, it's not that it doesn't make sence, it's that you don't want to make sence out of it. |
| 01:20.37 | Winny | sense, even |
| 01:20.39 | blast007 | JeffM: debug_dist links w/ glew32.lib - should that still be there? |
| 01:20.40 | JeffM | it sounds like you are trying to make a map that is outside your current skill level |
| 01:20.52 | iShock | JeffM, I'm just trying to fake a base .. |
| 01:20.52 | JeffM | blast007: thats what I took out in my last commit |
| 01:21.02 | JeffM | iShock: yes, and we don't HAVE a feature to do that |
| 01:21.04 | iShock | I'd use a regular base, but they don't suppose physics drivers |
| 01:21.05 | JeffM | not with a box |
| 01:21.12 | blast007 | hmm, thought i updated.. |
| 01:21.14 | JeffM | what you are trying to do is SPECIAL |
| 01:21.18 | JeffM | do you understand that? |
| 01:21.27 | iShock | YES. |
| 01:21.47 | JeffM | then it woudl stand to reason that you need to use the advanced maping features to do your special thing |
| 01:21.53 | JeffM | meshes are one way to do them |
| 01:21.59 | JeffM | the other would be a meshbox with a texture matrix |
| 01:22.21 | JeffM | but you ain't gonna get it to work with a box |
| 01:23.28 | JeffM | I know you are just looking for someone to do it for you, or tell you exactly what to type, but that's not what we are here for. |
| 01:24.42 | iShock | Do I want to scale it? |
| 01:24.47 | JeffM | yes |
| 01:25.02 | iShock | Okay |
| 01:25.59 | trepan | i'll give you the answer, if you promise to go away for a day |
| 01:26.17 | JeffM | ouch |
| 01:26.21 | iShock | :< |
| 01:26.28 | Winny | ~trepan++ |
| 01:26.30 | Winny | ;) |
| 01:26.33 | iShock | Does go away mean /part or just not talk? |
| 01:26.42 | delusional | Thanks flash, i got those plugins now! |
| 01:26.45 | trepan | silence will suffice |
| 01:26.57 | iShock | Eh.. |
| 01:27.18 | trepan | "just not talk" will do |
| 01:27.25 | JeffM | please note that the bzflag project does not condone such deals |
| 01:27.36 | JeffM | and they should be taken out of channel |
| 01:28.19 | Winny | aww JeffM you're such a party pooper |
| 01:28.29 | JeffM | there is joke, and there is not cool |
| 01:28.35 | JeffM | joke is fine |
| 01:29.02 | JeffM | if trepan and iShock want to work out some kind of private deal that is there biz |
| 01:29.13 | JeffM | but it's not something that should happen here |
| 01:29.59 | JeffM | unless I go make trepan a project admin |
| 01:30.05 | JeffM | then he can make pollicy all day long |
| 01:31.56 | delusional | runs |
| 01:33.14 | Winny | and he makes his escape! |
| 01:38.03 | spldart | Ackward for a moment there 8-/ |
| 01:38.17 | spldart | *sp* |
| 01:40.02 | iShock | I'm either having mental breakdowns or these texmats aren't doing squat. |
| 01:41.11 | delusional | i vorle for mental. |
| 01:41.20 | iShock | Me to, but :( |
| 01:41.23 | delusional | *vote |
| 01:41.47 | delusional | use your manpage |
| 01:42.50 | iShock | I'm using http://pastebin.bzflag.bz/m7339d9ee |
| 01:42.54 | iShock | But it's not changing at all :x |
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| 01:44.11 | delusional | to use inside matref ... outside matref.. you MUST have all six sides |
| 01:44.32 | CIA-64 | BZFlag: 03blast007 * r19145 10/trunk/bzflag/MSVC/build/bzflag.vcproj: Remove glew32.lib from the dependencies for debug_distribution. |
| 01:44.33 | delusional | and... i think it only works on arc objects |
| 01:46.00 | iShock | Eh, forget the fake bases then. |
| 01:46.35 | delusional | damn ishock... i saw your senshot.. but if you ask me, that map code shouldnt have any textures at all. |
| 01:46.52 | delusional | if i lokked at the bzw code, i'd say... that wont work at all |
| 01:47.02 | iShock | What about my screenshot? |
| 01:47.20 | delusional | you invented a new way to do bzw coding! |
| 01:47.30 | iShock | i did? |
| 01:47.54 | delusional | that shouldnt work at all, but it does. |
| 01:48.06 | iShock | What shouldn't? |
| 01:48.29 | delusional | matrefs |
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| 01:49.04 | iShock | delusional: Did you see the screenshot of the entire map before the failure fake boxes? |
| 01:49.28 | delusional | no |
| 01:49.39 | iShock | http://173.23.159.177/~lee/bzfi0092.png |
| 01:50.09 | me1 | it'd be useful more zoomed in |
| 01:50.10 | leeguy92 | hi, all. There seems to be an insecurity with bzfs in the private messaging area. i was just testing bzlink on sniper15s server(he DID agree), and it was picking up private messages he was sending other people. now, i have never had this occur before, where a server sends a private message to any player other than the target.(i have checked with wireshark). just thought you ought to know. |
| 01:50.14 | me1 | looks fine from here |
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| 01:57.42 | joevano | leeguy92: you sure it isn't a problem with bzlink? |
| 01:57.56 | joevano | my guess is that it is |
| 01:58.31 | joevano | in fact i would guarantee it |
| 01:58.34 | leeguy92 | a problem?? he sent a private message, and it was sent to someone other than the target, as well as the target |
| 01:58.48 | joevano | and bzlink was loadd? |
| 01:58.57 | leeguy92 | it's not a plugin |
| 01:59.03 | joevano | what is it? |
| 01:59.10 | leeguy92 | a remote program |
| 01:59.21 | joevano | that does what? |
| 01:59.35 | leeguy92 | that logs into multiple servers, and provides a directory service, and a global chat channel |
| 01:59.56 | leeguy92 | it started as a programming exercise |
| 02:00.38 | leeguy92 | just to check, i then sent a private message to a player, and bzlink didnt pick it up. that is what i know as undefined behavior |
| 02:02.07 | leeguy92 | i have also tried it on my server and have been unable to replicate the behavior. either sniper15 is lying about sending private messages, or bzfs is acting weird. |
| 02:02.50 | Winny | and you're sure it's not your program? |
| 02:03.09 | Winny | because I'm fairly certain this would've been noticed before |
| 02:03.21 | me1 | Winny, why would a remote program have access to private messages? |
| 02:04.09 | Winny | me1: why would have this never of been noticed before. Seems VERY unlikely |
| 02:04.34 | me1 | Winny, how would it have access, though, wheather it was noticed or not. |
| 02:06.26 | blast007 | leeguy92: seems unlikely that there's an issue with bzfs |
| 02:06.50 | blast007 | what kind of messages was it? team chat messages? or was it an actual PM? |
| 02:06.57 | leeguy92 | pm |
| 02:07.12 | blast007 | and how do you know it was from him and going to other players? |
| 02:08.07 | blast007 | (what indicated it was a PM) |
| 02:09.31 | leeguy92 | bzlink started picking up fragments of sentences like. "what" and "yeah, lol". i asked him if he was PMing someone |
| 02:10.04 | me1 | people speak like that in public, are you sure it was his pm's? |
| 02:10.28 | me1 | and team |
| 02:11.15 | blast007 | we can't really figure this out based on the limited amount of information you have provided |
| 02:11.51 | leeguy92 | yes, because i couldnt see the text. |
| 02:12.03 | blast007 | were you on the same team as the bot? |
| 02:12.14 | leeguy92 | bot is an observer |
| 02:12.18 | blast007 | right |
| 02:12.22 | blast007 | where you an observer too? |
| 02:12.25 | blast007 | were* |
| 02:13.02 | leeguy92 | no, i was a player |
| 02:13.19 | leeguy92 | csi(the guy he was sending to) was playing, also |
| 02:13.20 | blast007 | what team was sniper15 on? was he an observer? |
| 02:13.25 | leeguy92 | yes |
| 02:13.35 | leeguy92 | i just asked, he said he is sure he was pmming |
| 02:13.41 | blast007 | get server logs of that |
| 02:14.17 | blast007 | I'm more likely to belive he was sending it to team chat |
| 02:14.24 | blast007 | we don't broadcast PMs to all players |
| 02:14.34 | blast007 | even team chat only gets send to players on that team |
| 02:15.12 | leeguy92 | that what all of my network analysing told me |
| 02:15.30 | leeguy92 | he doesnt think the server keeps logs(he admin, but he not hostin) |
| 02:16.06 | blast007 | then we can't really verify anything |
| 02:16.22 | blast007 | find a way to reproduce it on a local server of your own, with logging turned on |
| 02:16.32 | leeguy92 | yeah, i can see how the lack of info is annoying. |
| 02:17.13 | leeguy92 | just then, i asked sniper15 to pm csi while i was recording with wireshark. i didnt receive the message he told me he sent csi |
| 02:17.28 | leeguy92 | but sniper had changed slots since then |
| 02:17.39 | blast007 | my guess he hit the wrong key and was sending it to team chat ;) |
| 02:18.02 | leeguy92 | hmm....it's always possible. |
| 02:18.14 | leeguy92 | kinda unnerving, though... |
| 02:18.31 | leeguy92 | when you think you got code working just right, you might be wrong |
| 02:19.09 | me1 | leeguy92, here's somethingeven more unnerving: most server owners have logs of everything you say on bzflag. ;) |
| 02:19.42 | leeguy92 | apparently sniper15 doesnt, lol. |
| 02:19.55 | blast007 | well, if it's not his server, how does he know? ;) |
| 02:20.10 | leeguy92 | hmm, good point |
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| 02:46.00 | jcp | What are nightmare's hosts? |
| 02:46.05 | jcp | He's cheating at my server |
| 02:46.08 | jcp | and I can't get rid of him |
| 02:46.18 | leeguy92 | hows he cheating/ |
| 02:46.45 | jcp | cheat again |
| 02:46.50 | jcp | erg, lol |
| 02:46.53 | jcp | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:47.02 | jcp | Faking /me without his name |
| 02:47.04 | JeffM | upgrade your server |
| 02:47.06 | jcp | And not showing up in the user list |
| 02:47.26 | jcp | How? I used apt-get to install it |
| 02:47.32 | leeguy92 | not showing up on user list? is that even possible? |
| 02:47.38 | JeffM | sure |
| 02:47.40 | jcp | Is the fix pushed to ubuntu-universe? |
| 02:47.46 | JeffM | oh god no |
| 02:47.50 | JeffM | build from source |
| 02:47.51 | jcp | darn |
| 02:47.52 | JeffM | from SVN |
| 02:47.56 | jcp | hoo boy |
| 02:48.01 | JeffM | it's not that hard |
| 02:48.17 | JeffM | you on what, .8 or .10? |
| 02:48.38 | jcp | 2.0.10 |
| 02:48.46 | JeffM | yeah you want .13 from SVN |
| 02:48.53 | jcp | ok |
| 02:48.57 | jcp | A branch? |
| 02:48.58 | JeffM | he's targeting you cus you are using old code |
| 02:49.03 | blast007 | and they *are* showing up on the user list |
| 02:49.05 | jcp | And because I'm new |
| 02:49.08 | jcp | As what? |
| 02:49.10 | blast007 | look at the actual server logs |
| 02:49.15 | blast007 | it will show their name there |
| 02:49.17 | JeffM | you want the v2_0branch |
| 02:49.21 | jcp | ooh, good idea |
| 02:49.22 | jcp | ok |
| 02:49.50 | jcp | Does anyone know what his hostnames are anyway? |
| 02:50.04 | jcp | I got rid of skelly with a couple hostbans, but I don't know NightMare's |
| 02:50.13 | me1 | jcp, he was joined as "blahasd" |
| 02:51.33 | leeguy92 | so, blast, hows the investigation proceeding? anyone else experienced this? |
| 02:51.55 | blast007 | if I had logs, I could |
| 02:52.18 | JeffM | .10 didn't check for chat messages before the msgEnter |
| 02:52.25 | JeffM | IIRC |
| 02:52.41 | leeguy92 | ah |
| 02:52.46 | JeffM | and blast007 fixed the /me thing recently |
| 02:52.58 | leeguy92 | is bzflag doing the GSoC this year? |
| 02:53.05 | JeffM | for 2009? |
| 02:53.09 | leeguy92 | yeh |
| 02:53.14 | JeffM | it has not been announced |
| 02:53.20 | leeguy92 | ah |
| 02:53.38 | JeffM | one can not be part of a program that does not exist yet :) |
| 02:54.07 | iShock | Does the HoldTheFlag plugin not work with green team or something? |
| 02:54.14 | leeguy92 | i probably wouldn't be able to do anyway, cos i like all the way over here in uk |
| 02:54.17 | blast007 | iShock: look at the code |
| 02:54.29 | leeguy92 | *live |
| 02:54.30 | JeffM | leeguy92: what does your location have to do with it? |
| 02:54.43 | leeguy92 | i thought you had to meet somewhere |
| 02:54.46 | JeffM | no |
| 02:54.49 | leeguy92 | hmm |
| 02:54.54 | JeffM | the metting is a mentor summit afterwards |
| 02:54.59 | JeffM | for just the mentors |
| 02:55.03 | leeguy92 | ah |
| 02:55.05 | JeffM | well SOME of them at least |
| 02:55.17 | iShock | blast007: Wait, do you have to pass args to it? |
| 02:55.25 | blast007 | iShock: look at the code |
| 02:55.33 | iShock | blast007: I'm not good with c++ .. |
| 02:55.39 | iShock | I'm a PHP nerd, not C++ |
| 02:55.45 | JeffM | they are very similar |
| 02:55.48 | JeffM | work it out |
| 02:55.55 | blast007 | you should be able to get enough out of the plugin code to figure out what to pass it |
| 02:56.00 | blast007 | they usually are not that long/complex |
| 02:56.06 | JeffM | you've asked a lot of questions, and it is getting a little tiresome for some people |
| 02:56.13 | leeguy92 | php.....AAAAAAHHHHH!!! dynamic typing <rolls around on floor saying "no no no no no"> |
| 02:56.16 | JeffM | leeguy92: we had people all over the world |
| 02:56.40 | leeguy92 | so, are the mentors all from the same place? |
| 02:56.43 | JeffM | no |
| 02:56.51 | blast007 | but most are from Earth |
| 02:56.53 | JeffM | we had mentors from all over the world too |
| 02:57.02 | JeffM | blast007: except that one guy, but he was an ass |
| 02:57.06 | blast007 | yeah |
| 02:58.20 | iShock | sighs |
| 02:58.32 | JeffM | if we do it again this year I think we'll have to make a fair number of changes |
| 02:58.37 | JeffM | I wasn't happy with how we handled last year |
| 02:58.40 | leeguy92 | the only real software development(aside from exams) i have done was a summer scholarship thing last year. i only learned what a "trunk" was when i looked it up on google yesterday. |
| 02:59.30 | JeffM | trunk, head, mainline, they are just conventions |
| 03:00.06 | JeffM | yay, dtr broke svn :) |
| 03:00.13 | leeguy92 | dtr? |
| 03:00.17 | JeffM | yep |
| 03:00.22 | JeffM | dtremenak |
| 03:00.22 | leeguy92 | whats dtr? |
| 03:00.30 | leeguy92 | ah |
| 03:00.33 | blast007 | not what, who :) |
| 03:00.44 | JeffM | man, now I gotta remember how to build from ports |
| 03:01.13 | blast007 | JeffM: download the SVN source code and build your own binary :) |
| 03:01.28 | JeffM | blast007: that's what's in port ;) |
| 03:01.31 | JeffM | bsd remember |
| 03:01.32 | leeguy92 | as i said about half an hour ago, i gotta go to zzzzzz. bye all. |
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| 03:02.27 | JeffM | I guess he didn't fully rebuild the world :( |
| 03:02.49 | JeffM | hah, we were running the linux svn, in emulation |
| 03:04.06 | Flash | dtr broke svn the actual source control system, or just honked up the bzflag repository? |
| 03:04.15 | JeffM | SVN on our server |
| 03:04.19 | Flash | ah |
| 03:04.21 | JeffM | not the svn server |
| 03:04.30 | JeffM | he upgraded us from BSD 6 to 7 |
| 03:04.40 | Flash | one never knows how far reaching DTR might be |
| 03:04.42 | JeffM | but it prevents me from accessing SVN repositories |
| 03:04.58 | Flash | even though he has been absent for quite a while |
| 03:05.00 | JeffM | we have a machine at the same place as the list server |
| 03:05.06 | JeffM | he's up north visting his fam |
| 03:05.12 | JeffM | he should be back tomorow |
| 03:05.30 | JeffM | or at least I hope so, I have to ask him how he wants the post ecryption keys made |
| 03:05.37 | JeffM | and it's gonna piss him off :) |
| 03:09.31 | iShock | Well, that's depressing ... |
| 03:09.53 | JeffM | what is? |
| 03:09.54 | MindstormsKid | depresses JeffM |
| 03:09.58 | JeffM | I'm more of a toggle |
| 03:10.13 | iShock | This HTF plugin seems borked. |
| 03:10.57 | MindstormsKid | $("JeffM").toggle(mad, sad) |
| 03:11.20 | JeffM | iShock: the one in 2.0 is somewhat of a hack, bzflag dosn't really support that type of gameplay nativly |
| 03:11.44 | iShock | Oh, wait. |
| 03:11.48 | iShock | facepalm |
| 03:12.03 | spldart | is glad xmas break is over |
| 03:12.15 | JeffM | one more night! |
| 03:12.24 | spldart | well.. there is that |
| 03:12.37 | JeffM | all in all you guys got thru it quite well, give yourselves a hand! |
| 03:13.22 | iShock | One more night of what? |
| 03:13.30 | spldart | Nothing |
| 03:13.39 | spldart | Your feeling sleepy.. very sleepy |
| 03:13.45 | spldart | [/hypnosis] |
| 03:13.56 | iShock | ZzzzzzZZZzzZZZZzzzzzZZZZZzZ |
| 03:14.02 | JeffM | when do you go back to school iShock ? |
| 03:15.43 | iShock | homeschool |
| 03:15.53 | JeffM | figured |
| 03:16.16 | JeffM | have mom teach you a little more about research :) |
| 03:18.37 | Flash | iShock: is English your native language? |
| 03:18.47 | iShock | Flash: Yes. |
| 03:18.52 | spldart | Another rough area |
| 03:18.55 | JeffM | Flash: fun itsn't it? ;) |
| 03:18.59 | JeffM | they are easy to spot |
| 03:19.15 | Flash | then you will understand: While the squeaky wheel gets the grease, around here the squeaky wheel is likely to get greased |
| 03:19.33 | JeffM | it's what he's used to doing |
| 03:19.37 | JeffM | he can learn in time |
| 03:19.40 | MindstormsKid | ... |
| 03:20.29 | spldart | "Time is the fire in which we burn" |
| 03:20.40 | Flash | spldart is getting toasted |
| 03:20.47 | spldart | melba |
| 03:20.53 | Flash | is crunchy |
| 03:20.53 | JeffM | french |
| 03:21.07 | spldart | I like jeff's toast better |
| 03:21.24 | Flash | so if we are burning in time, we should coat ourselves in egg first? |
| 03:21.31 | Flash | TMI |
| 03:21.34 | spldart | And a few herbs |
| 03:22.54 | JeffM | I love this part.. hit F7 dev studio, copy .exe to bsd, run :) |
| 03:37.11 | blast007 | hehe.. |
| 03:43.23 | bryjen | and somewhere in the world, bill feels uneasy, but doesn't know why |
| 03:44.25 | JeffM | it's having me use his tools, he should be laughing ;) |
| 03:54.13 | delusional | if you can't stand the heat, get out of the salvador dali painting. |
| 03:54.56 | delusional | http://images.worldgallery.co.uk/i/prints/rw/lg/1/5/Salvador-Dali-Montre-Molle-au-Moment-150203.jpg |
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| 04:12.30 | iShock | BZFlag is open source right? |
| 04:12.46 | iShock | FastLizard4: Poke? |
| 04:12.49 | MindstormsKid | Yes.... 9-9 |
| 04:12.55 | MindstormsKid | * 9_9 |
| 04:13.08 | FastLizard4 | iShock: Sorry, can't play atm. |
| 04:13.13 | iShock | :( |
| 04:13.38 | FastLizard4 | Trying to customize NIS 2009 |
| 04:13.52 | blast007 | I'm sorry to hear that |
| 04:27.41 | MrDudle | brb |
| 04:32.14 | spldart | Heh... great quotes on my tv tonight. "A writer gives the truth scope." |
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| 06:12.16 | short_circuit | has yet to figure out why alt # has failed to do the usual switch channel in irssi and now has to use esc #. Of course it's on the same machine, file server, that no longer even starts xchat... "failed to execute d-bus launch blah blah? |
| 06:12.55 | blast007 | short_circuit: are you running it from a terminal? |
| 06:13.05 | blast007 | as in, a graphical terminal |
| 06:13.27 | blast007 | I had to turn off the tab switch hotkeys on my Ubuntu system |
| 06:13.55 | blast007 | (the terminal itself supported tabs, and had hotkeys to switch between them) |
| 06:14.46 | short_circuit | running it in Xterm like I always do from 'this machine, fileserver-fluxbox' when I want to shutdown all uncessery power hungry machines. |
| 06:15.08 | short_circuit | something has changed and has changed irssi and killed xchat though. Just this one righ |
| 06:15.14 | short_circuit | s/righ/rig |
| 06:15.22 | blast007 | make a new tab in xterm and see if Alt-2 switches to that second tab |
| 06:16.05 | short_circuit | alt 2 seems to print a 'wingding' in my text box here. |
| 06:16.11 | short_circuit | ² |
| 06:16.13 | blast007 | heh |
| 06:16.43 | blast007 | are you using the number pad or the top number row? |
| 06:16.53 | short_circuit | top number row normally |
| 06:17.01 | short_circuit | for irssi |
| 06:17.13 | short_circuit | I use the numpad when I'm balancing the checkbook ;) |
| 06:17.30 | blast007 | strange |
| 06:17.33 | short_circuit | took 'typing' class in the 80's |
| 06:17.39 | short_circuit | Keyboarding didn't exist yet. |
| 06:18.05 | short_circuit | yeah.. really strange |
| 06:18.22 | short_circuit | Pogo says high blast007! |
| 06:18.41 | blast007 | hehe |
| 06:18.48 | short_circuit | lmao, this is pogo, i said HI :p |
| 06:18.54 | blast007 | hello ;) |
| 06:19.03 | short_circuit | No. She's H..... wait |
| 06:19.19 | short_circuit | no, im not, meanie |
| 06:19.39 | short_circuit | heads to bed... split persona... I mean me and wife need a nap |
| 06:19.45 | blast007 | :P |
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| 06:22.37 | Pogovina | actually, HE is going to bed :p |
| 06:22.45 | Pogovina | I dont ahve to work tomorrow |
| 06:22.55 | Pogovina | with proper spelling, even |
| 06:23.19 | Pogovina | :p |
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| 08:26.31 | LePoulpe303 | hi (and happy new year) all |
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| 14:30.02 | Swigg_ | We need an admin for ahod |
| 14:30.23 | Swigg_ | Donny_baker or joevano:Ping |
| 14:30.39 | joevano | Swigg_: pong |
| 14:30.45 | joevano | i am not |
| 14:30.54 | Swigg_ | Donny, do you admin on all hands on deck? |
| 14:30.58 | joevano | nope |
| 14:31.00 | Swigg_ | well shoot |
| 14:31.16 | Swigg_ | there should be a rule against servers with no admins |
| 14:31.43 | Swigg_ | any idea on how to find out who is an admin there? |
| 14:32.26 | Swigg_ | you should see this guy's cheat |
| 14:32.30 | Swigg_ | PinkTank |
| 14:40.53 | joevano | brad: ping ^^^ |
| 14:41.17 | Swigg_ | I swear, his tank was glued to marzi |
| 14:43.26 | brad | ah:) |
| 14:44.48 | brad | thx joevano |
| 14:45.00 | joevano | np |
| 14:45.53 | Swigg_ | I looked it up.. only treban and jeffm are admins there |
| 14:46.07 | Swigg_ | and I bet they don't run torblock |
| 14:46.11 | joevano | Swigg_: i don't think that is correct |
| 14:46.17 | brad | GU admins and a few others are also admin there |
| 14:46.42 | Swigg_ | well if someone could get the logs.... |
| 14:46.46 | joevano | usually ther aren't many problems |
| 14:46.58 | joevano | Swigg_: just chill, it is taken care of |
| 14:49.25 | brad | is he using TOR then? |
| 14:52.07 | joevano | brad: he usually doesn't |
| 14:52.20 | joevano | in fact I have never seen him use it |
| 15:14.46 | brad | on a completely different note...anyone able to help with plugin stuff? http://pastebin.ca/1300145 |
| 15:15.11 | brad | it doesn't appear to be working as expected:) |
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| 15:41.57 | joevano | brad: could you do something like std::string subtotal = strcat("\00314SERVER: \017, msg->message.c_str) |
| 15:42.28 | joevano | i'm just fishing with that.. it may still invoke the + operator |
| 15:42.43 | joevano | ah and I forgot a quote |
| 15:42.52 | brad | will give it a go:) |
| 15:43.49 | brad | it compiled! |
| 15:44.08 | brad | now to see if it actually worked |
| 15:45.04 | trepan | std::string subtotal = std::string("\00314SERVER: \017") + msg->message.c_str(); |
| 15:45.11 | brad | Segmentation fault |
| 15:45.12 | brad | heh |
| 15:45.15 | trepan | man strcat: ... and the dest string must have enough space for the result ... |
| 15:45.50 | brad | thx trepan! |
| 15:46.34 | trepan | fwiw, you also don't want to use a const char[] as strcat's dest ;-) |
| 15:47.35 | brad | that worked perfectly, thx again guys |
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| 16:20.45 | blast007 | TimRiker: have you gotten around to removing the non-official *.bzflag.org hosts? |
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| 16:57.54 | brad | is it just me or does the bz_ePlayerJoinEvent |
| 16:58.16 | brad | ...seem to be called when you do enter a / without any arguments |
| 16:59.07 | brad | whenever I enter a single / in chat and hit enter, it seems to trigger the join event |
| 16:59.42 | brad | unless of course the plugin is completely borked:) should I make a simple plugin to test it? |
| 17:02.52 | trepan | the current lua plugin example outputs its call-ins, iirc |
| 17:03.20 | trepan | os? (not so useful for win without console output) |
| 17:03.34 | brad | debian 4.0 |
| 17:03.49 | trepan | bzfs -loadplugin libbzfslua.so,$HOME/bzfslua/bzfs.lua |
| 17:04.03 | trepan | point the file to your plugins/lua/example/bzfs.lua file |
| 17:04.21 | trepan | hm, i also should have asked, SVN or other? ;-) |
| 17:04.29 | brad | yeah...SVN |
| 17:04.33 | brad | will give it a go |
| 17:04.39 | trepan | ah, then that should do the trick for ya |
| 17:06.22 | brad | I don't seem to have the lua plugin |
| 17:06.30 | brad | is it not in the 2.0 SVN? |
| 17:06.46 | trepan | hehe, oops, 2.99 SVN only |
| 17:06.52 | brad | ahh |
| 17:06.55 | trepan | doesn't care about 2.0.x |
| 17:07.01 | brad | :) |
| 17:07.39 | trepan | so back to "make a simple plugin to test it |
| 17:07.52 | brad | yeah...I guess so |
| 17:08.06 | trepan | fwiw, doesn't seem to be a problem in 2.99 |
| 17:08.20 | brad | alright |
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| 17:18.59 | brad | well, it's nothing wrong with the API. will have to fix the plugin :) |
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| 18:46.50 | brad | bz crashes when you try to use the pound sign :( |
| 18:46.53 | brad | no love for brits |
| 18:47.09 | brad | this is on latest 2.0 SVN |
| 18:48.29 | blast007 | brad: try it in 2.99.x |
| 18:48.51 | blast007 | we have unicode support is that |
| 18:49.17 | brad | okies |
| 18:49.53 | blast007 | if you're on Windows, there's a fairly recent build on the forum |
| 18:50.01 | blast007 | probably under releases |
| 18:50.57 | brad | ahh that will help. don't have 2.99 on here yet :) |
| 18:54.31 | brad | yay.. |
| 18:58.11 | blast007 | brad: works? |
| 18:58.19 | brad | it does indeed |
| 18:58.24 | blast007 | cool :) |
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| 19:34.30 | blast007 | thinks upgrading the phpBB3 password to OpenLDAP will be lots of fun.. |
| 19:34.36 | blast007 | passwords* |
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| 21:05.58 | iShock | blast007: Is there anything wrong with me logging this channel? |
| 21:09.06 | blast007 | no |
| 21:09.34 | Winny | it's just text |
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| 21:11.18 | leeguy92 | hey, apparently i was just ghosted |
| 21:11.56 | blast007 | ? |
| 21:12.15 | iShock | Winny, that's being convered to a stats page |
| 21:12.30 | Winny | iShock: huh? |
| 21:12.34 | me1 | iShock, cool |
| 21:13.01 | iShock | http://vertex.cluenet.org/~lee/bzflag.html < What the logs become. |
| 21:13.26 | blast007 | I recall something like that for this channel already |
| 21:13.31 | blast007 | can't recall where though |
| 21:13.38 | iShock | Slightly better example at http://vertex.cluenet.org/~lee/ubuntu.html |
| 21:13.46 | Winny | blast007: infobot? |
| 21:14.36 | Winny | or ibot, or whatever they call him in here |
| 21:14.44 | me1 | "blast007 wrote the shortest lines, averaging 1.5 characters per line." |
| 21:14.45 | blast007 | Winny: yeah |
| 21:14.47 | me1 | that can't be right |
| 21:14.58 | blast007 | heh |
| 21:15.16 | blast007 | maybe it's based on my 'no' and '?' only |
| 21:15.19 | blast007 | ;) |
| 21:15.48 | iShock | Yeah, haven't be logging very long :P |
| 21:15.51 | blast007 | leeguy92: what do you mean "ghosted"? from IRC? from BZFlag? |
| 21:16.05 | iShock | 15:42 autolog = ON |
| 21:16.20 | me1 | leeguy92, you should probably change your password |
| 21:16.22 | me1 | twice |
| 21:16.33 | iShock | And yeah, that's all it logged from you blast007 :P |
| 21:16.37 | blast007 | twice? |
| 21:16.43 | me1 | (for extra security) |
| 21:17.22 | iShock | Spongebob confuses me |
| 21:17.34 | iShock | How can there be visable water in the toilet if they're underwater?.. |
| 21:17.45 | Winny | iShock: I hear #offtopic wants to know |
| 21:17.56 | iShock | Oh, sorry :< |
| 21:18.13 | me1 | Winny, don't you mean ##unavaliable? |
| 21:18.17 | me1 | or #defocus? |
| 21:18.26 | Winny | no? |
| 21:18.31 | SpazzyMcGee | iShock, perhaps it's not water, but a heavier liquid than water? |
| 21:18.33 | blast007 | #peoplewhocare (oh look, nobody is there) |
| 21:18.59 | me1 | hehe |
| 21:19.07 | me1 | Winny, #defocus is freenode's "off-topic," and #offtopic forwards to ##unavaliable |
| 21:19.24 | Winny | me1: thanks for that |
| 21:19.32 | me1 | You are quite welcome. |
| 21:19.34 | Winny | *woosh* |
| 21:21.09 | SpazzyMcGee | goes to flush his mercury toilet |
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| 21:49.52 | trepan | 'blockable' rendering items: obstacles, sky, stars, clouds, ground, lights, shadows, mountains, explosions, trackMarks, weather, effects |
| 21:49.56 | trepan | missing any? |
| 21:50.15 | trepan | hm, inside nodes ... |
| 21:51.46 | trepan | and forgot to mention that flags/tanks/shots can be blocked individually ;-) |
| 22:18.26 | leeguy92 | hey, devs. the network protocol for delivering map data to the clients - has it changed since the wiki article was written? |
| 22:18.55 | leeguy92 | and btw, my ghosting problem. my bad, i had 2 clients open |
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| 22:37.27 | pacman87 | which version of the directX SDK do i need to compile 2.0 in MSVC 2005? |
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| 22:55.49 | brlcad | ~logs |
| 22:55.49 | ibot | well, logs is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23bzflag/, or stats http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/bzflag.html.gz |
| 22:56.04 | brlcad | (for you iShock) |
| 22:57.22 | brlcad | pisg has been run on the logs from time to time too |
| 22:57.29 | brlcad | gets old pretty quick :) |
| 23:03.16 | leeguy92 | pacman87: i dont think bzflag uses directX. i think it uses opengl. |
| 23:11.13 | blast007 | leeguy92: it uses the DirectX SDK though |
| 23:11.26 | blast007 | pacman87: I think the readme for Windows mentions it |
| 23:11.30 | leeguy92 | ah |
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| 23:13.04 | blast007 | guess it doesn't say which one |
| 23:14.18 | blast007 | pacman87: April 2007 |
| 23:16.21 | blast007 | leeguy92: as for the network protocol, don't go by the wiki |
| 23:16.36 | blast007 | that might not even be up to date with 2.0.x |
| 23:17.20 | leeguy92 | i know most of it isnt |
| 23:18.28 | leeguy92 | so, i guess going through the code would be my best bet |
| 23:18.32 | blast007 | yeah |
| 23:18.41 | blast007 | that's the only up to date "documentation" we have |
| 23:18.56 | blast007 | (for networking, at least) |
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| 23:29.32 | leeguy921 | does anyone know, does the server transfer the world as components, or does it simply send the world file?(the wiki, which is probably wrong, says the former, but if it was up to me, i would do the latter) |
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