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| 00:07.50 | JeffM | TJ13820, you mean the php stuff? |
| 00:08.02 | TJ13820 | yeah |
| 00:08.21 | JeffM | there is a php page in the misc dir in source |
| 00:08.30 | JeffM | and all the stats stuff is in SVN |
| 00:09.29 | TJ13820 | in misc? |
| 00:09.39 | JeffM | the stats stuff is in it's own folder in SVN |
| 00:10.14 | JeffM | what are you trying to do? |
| 00:10.58 | TJ13820 | make a server stats page for just my servers. |
| 00:11.23 | JeffM | ok, so you don't need to walk the list |
| 00:11.23 | TJ13820 | trunk/tags/branch? |
| 00:11.42 | JeffM | bzfquery_example.php |
| 00:11.47 | JeffM | in misc |
| 00:11.52 | JeffM | in the source tree for bzflag |
| 00:12.01 | JeffM | that does a single server query IIRC |
| 00:13.34 | TJ13820 | http://bzflag.svn.sourceforge.net/ i'm here. |
| 00:13.41 | TJ13820 | no Misc directory. |
| 00:13.51 | JeffM | have you ever downloaded the source code to bzflag |
| 00:14.10 | TJ13820 | yes. |
| 00:14.20 | JeffM | do you have a copy of the source code on your computer right now? |
| 00:14.30 | TJ13820 | not atm. |
| 00:14.36 | JeffM | get a copy of the source code |
| 00:14.48 | JeffM | in there will be a misc dir |
| 00:15.01 | TJ13820 | http://bzflag.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/bzflag/trunk/bzflag/misc/ |
| 00:15.02 | TJ13820 | got it |
| 00:15.04 | JeffM | the SVN I was talking about was for the stats system |
| 00:16.18 | JeffM | the misc thing is simple and you don't need svn for |
| 00:16.36 | JeffM | in fact you probaly don't want the one from trucnk because some of that stuff changed. |
| 00:17.32 | TJ13820 | ah hah! that's right :P |
| 00:18.03 | TJ13820 | Once i get bzfsquery_example.php what need i do with it to work it into a query like program? |
| 00:18.17 | TJ13820 | (as it has no interface) |
| 00:23.18 | TJ13820 | oh i see, use the bzfsquery_example to specify which servers are called upon, then load BZFSQuery.php to do the work. |
| 00:23.21 | TJ13820 | very nice! |
| 00:26.39 | TJ13820 | can you call more than one server per BZFSquery_example though? |
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| 00:32.05 | CBG | Try it and see? |
| 00:33.54 | TJ13820_ | i am :) |
| 00:38.00 | blast007 | TJ13820_: that is used to get player and game info about a server. It won't parse the list to generate a list of your servers, if that is what you want |
| 00:39.25 | blast007 | that example is just that. an example. You can certainly call the bzfquery function multiple times and store the results. |
| 00:40.08 | TJ13820_ | what i want, jeffm helped me with. I just wanted to know if i'd get it working this way :) |
| 00:40.35 | blast007 | "this way" being using the script that he told you to use? |
| 00:41.46 | blast007 | if you want a list of servers automatically generated, you could read the data from this: http://my.bzflag.org/db/?action=LIST |
| 00:41.50 | blast007 | and then parse it |
| 00:43.34 | blast007 | fairly trivial except for the hex string part |
| 00:43.59 | blast007 | (the hex string contains info such as the game style, player counts, etc) |
| 00:45.13 | TJ13820 | so how would i limit it to just my servers? |
| 00:46.03 | CBG | Don't use that link to generate a list..? |
| 00:49.40 | blast007 | TJ13820: Like I said, you would parse it |
| 00:49.51 | blast007 | CBG: no, he could |
| 00:50.23 | blast007 | you would go through each line, parse the host or the IP, determine if it was your server, and if so, parse the rest of it |
| 00:50.29 | blast007 | if not, you would ignore it and move on |
| 00:50.31 | CBG | He could... but I would hope he knows where his own servers are. |
| 00:50.55 | blast007 | CBG: by using the list server, he wouldn't have to manually go into his PHP and add a new server every time he starts/stops bzfs |
| 00:51.04 | CBG | If he's not changing IP addresses every day, it's going to be much more efficient to not have to search through the 300 bz servers. |
| 00:51.20 | CBG | There is that... Depends if it is an issue or not. |
| 00:51.38 | TJ13820 | static/DNS |
| 00:51.40 | blast007 | just seems silly to maintain a separate list |
| 00:51.59 | blast007 | might as well use the one that's dynamic and use the information we provide :) |
| 00:52.03 | CBG | Not if it's not an issue. :) |
| 00:52.22 | Think_Differentl | if it ain't broke, don't fix it |
| 00:52.28 | blast007 | 17:25:25 < TJ13820> anyone know of a good script to use for showing the list server but only my servers? |
| 00:52.33 | blast007 | that was his original question |
| 00:52.43 | CBG | Depending on what you do with your list, it's not going to be the most efficient method. |
| 00:52.52 | CBG | blast007: sure, but I'm looking at a bigger picture |
| 00:53.08 | CBG | It's not often you'll here me talking about efficiency. |
| 00:53.16 | blast007 | how it is less efficient to parse a simple text file? |
| 00:53.34 | blast007 | cache the result for 5 minutes |
| 00:54.04 | blast007 | write a cron script that updates his data every 5 minutes |
| 00:54.14 | CBG | Searching takes time. |
| 00:54.15 | blast007 | simple enough, and totally automatic after the initial setup |
| 00:54.20 | blast007 | searching? |
| 00:54.31 | CBG | Yeah, searching. |
| 00:54.44 | blast007 | you do realize that parsing that list would take a fraction of a second |
| 00:54.50 | CBG | How else do you want to help with "17:25:25 < TJ13820> anyone know of a good script to use for showing the list server but only my servers?" |
| 00:55.11 | CBG | The link above gives a f***load of servers he doesn't want. How do you find the ones he does? |
| 00:55.34 | Think_Differentl | you grep his? |
| 00:56.15 | Think_Differentl | why not just type in your hostname into the bzflag search? |
| 00:56.23 | blast007 | CBG: he would *parse* it, like I've said three times |
| 00:56.34 | blast007 | his cron script would read that file, and then go through each line |
| 00:56.43 | blast007 | it's not that hard |
| 00:57.02 | CBG | Go through each line looking for the relevant servers? Like... "search" it? |
| 00:57.31 | CBG | I'm not saying it is hard, I'm saying it might not be as efficient. |
| 00:57.37 | blast007 | it's a computer |
| 00:57.39 | blast007 | that's what it does |
| 00:57.54 | CBG | We might be quibbling over nanoseconds here, but if you look after the nanoseconds, the seconds will look after themselves. |
| 01:02.35 | blast007 | http://bzexcess.com/serverlist.php |
| 01:02.54 | blast007 | that's of course not being cached into a database |
| 01:03.15 | blast007 | that's pulling it from the list server every time you open that page, so it's not as snappy as from the local system |
| 01:03.37 | blast007 | but I'm pulling that URL that I linked to, going through each line, splitting it on spaces, and then looking at the hostname |
| 01:04.03 | blast007 | 16 lines of code counting whitespace |
| 01:04.25 | CBG | I didn't say it wouldn't work :) Just that it would be ever so slightly less efficient and might be entirely unnecessary. |
| 01:10.12 | Think_Differentl | less efficient than what? |
| 01:10.33 | blast007 | then writing a configuration file with a list of his servers and manually having to update that when he starts/stops servers |
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| 01:54.35 | brlcad | debates getting a king or a queen size bed |
| 02:01.19 | spldart | king all the way says spl and pogo in unison |
| 02:07.01 | brlcad | hehe |
| 02:10.25 | Thumper_ | king. |
| 02:12.04 | brlcad | problem is the entry way to the master bedroom is pretty small -- would have to get a split box, which is good and well |
| 02:12.46 | brlcad | but then it's gonna be *really* tight for the mattress, unless I get a sleep number |
| 02:15.02 | delusional | sleep number rules, except for the sticker shock. |
| 02:17.21 | Winny | what's your sleep number? Mine's 1337. |
| 02:17.22 | brlcad | sticker's on-par with the other mattresses of comparable quality |
| 02:18.01 | brlcad | problem is more just the mental thought of "it's an air mattress" .. and the long-term wear n' tear |
| 02:19.16 | delusional | pittsburgh, where i live, is a manufacturing hub for regular mattresses, prices are very low on them, here. |
| 02:19.52 | delusional | hospitals are switching to them, just keep sharp objects out of your pockets. |
| 02:20.16 | delusional | the pumps are industrial quality, more than you need, really |
| 02:20.42 | delusional | no waterbed weight, or risk of drainage damage. |
| 02:26.45 | brlcad | hospitals with waterbeds? |
| 02:26.57 | delusional | sleep number |
| 02:27.19 | brlcad | then what does waterbed weight have to do with anything? |
| 02:27.36 | delusional | there's no waste, that's the hospital's problem. |
| 02:27.49 | brlcad | is confused |
| 02:28.03 | delusional | air matresses and waterbed's are similar in many ways. |
| 02:28.53 | brlcad | ..except one is filled with air and quickly/easily repressurized as needed, the other is filled with water and has to have a heater with temperature that can takes hours to adjust... |
| 02:28.53 | spldart | Kings matresses hold more.... Potential.... nuff said ;) |
| 02:29.24 | delusional | exactly.. they sleep like a waterbed, but have none of the disadvanteges. |
| 02:29.38 | brlcad | other than being a "sack" with non-solid "stuff" in them, I'm not sure I agree with that at all :) |
| 02:29.51 | brlcad | I used to have a waterbed too.. they don't sleep at all like one :) |
| 02:30.15 | delusional | spring mattresses do have a certain....... when your not sleeping. |
| 02:30.23 | brlcad | still, I see absolutely no reason why a hospital would ever switch to waterbeds -- it's not like it's air vs water |
| 02:31.03 | delusional | when it's time to close up shop.... they can just deflate and get on with it. |
| 02:31.15 | brlcad | it's springs vs air for them |
| 02:31.32 | delusional | if an infected patient is on a regular mattress.. they might have to incinerate it. |
| 02:31.53 | delusional | plastic can be disinfected. |
| 02:32.16 | brlcad | which is why they generally are plastic-encased mattresses :) |
| 02:33.00 | brlcad | don't get me wrong, I see some of the benefits, just not the points your making -- and the waterbed comparison is just pointless :) |
| 02:33.02 | delusional | well, my brother tells me that his hospital got five pallets of sleep number mattresses |
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| 08:50.12 | Nukeproofsuite | hi all |
| 08:50.41 | blast007 | hello |
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| 16:52.40 | ts | trepan: I think I solved the vsync problem kind of, using NSOpenGL. The apple systems don't support GLX as they do not use X11 in most cases. I still need to clean up the headers and need to change whitespace to follow conventions but I'm mostly done. |
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| 18:11.57 | trepan | ts: cool |
| 18:12.47 | trepan | libGLEW still shouldn't have caused linking errors... it's purpose is to avoid such problems ;-) |
| 18:13.13 | trepan | *its |
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| 18:28.11 | ts | trepan: Heh, I would expect it not to ship headers that are not "supported" |
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| 19:51.59 | brlcad | I was wondering that yesterday, if glx vs mac gl was the issue -- a bug in the glew header causing it to be declared, but not actually available on Mac because of glx |
| 19:52.16 | brlcad | i just assumed that since it compiled, that it provided something for that #define wrapper they use |
| 19:53.54 | ts | From searching I found some projects doing vsync did make sure Apple gcc wasn't seeing the code, so it's not only me I guess |
| 19:55.11 | ts | It was also a bit strange that I never saw complaints of Mac users here. Probably not many Mac people have GLEW installed and compile BZFlag. |
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| 20:17.03 | javawizard2539 | So I've seen the name "skeletron" associated with cheating |
| 20:17.23 | javawizard2539 | Can anyone clarify on who he is and why he gets banned everywhere? |
| 20:17.55 | ts | Well, he's a cheater and therefore admins tend to ban him |
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| 20:23.51 | TJ13820 | JeffM could you help me with a large... large issue? |
| 20:24.02 | TJ13820 | (It might be better in private) |
| 20:24.03 | JeffM | TJ13820, pehaps |
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