IRC log for #bzflag on 20081201

00:00.19trepanit works in common/
00:00.31trepan(check its headers for deps)
00:01.57trepanand so in common/ it shall go
00:02.17trepan(doing this to remove the necessity of 'fake textures' for URL fonts)
00:05.25Flash<PROTECTED>
00:06.52trepanah, it was brlcad who moved it from game/ to mediafile/, knew I wouldn't have coded it in mediafile ...
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00:13.40Flashdelusional: I think you are delusional
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00:13.45Flash16:44 < delusional> hmm,  "about this mac" ... frameworks pane reports SDL version higher than what is available from libsdl.org
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00:14.03Flash1.2.9 is less than 1.2.13
00:14.07delusionali swear that's what it said
00:14.29Flashnot higher
00:14.34delusionali got 1.2.13 now
00:14.41Flashok
00:14.52delusionalgonna rebuild
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00:48.57delusionalthanks gentlemen, fixed my SDL version, no more keyboard problems
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01:03.20CIA-43BZFlag: 03bullet_catcher * r19001 10/trunk/bzflag/configure.ac: Update the minimum required version of SDL from 1.2.5 to 1.2.10, as 1.2.9 works poorly on MacOS 10.5.
01:05.40Winnyhttp://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=13425
01:05.47Winnynot really spam, more like stupidity
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02:51.16brlcadFlash: there are readmes in each dir, but you still can't make anyone read them (exemplar case in point with you) :)
02:52.45brlcadthere'd probably be no objection to making them more specific, but they were at least pretty straight-forward obvious when they were written as to what the intent was
02:53.40brlcadtrepan: I vaguely recall thinking about moving it to common, but at the time it was only being used for loading media files so just took the next incremental step.  there was some dependency issue with it being in game (aside from not being game-specific)
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06:00.41iShockYou guys active?
06:01.53iShockGuys?
06:13.38AAA_awrightNot so much at this time of day iShock
06:14.05AAA_awrightIn fact I am about to pop out
06:17.07iShockAAA_awright wait?
06:17.13AAA_awrightHi
06:17.56iShockHow do I make this use the bzflag list server?
06:18.21Flashthis?
06:18.29iShockbzfs
06:18.47Flashit should by default
06:18.53iShockIt doesn't.
06:19.02Flashdo you mean how to have it listed on the list server?
06:19.32iShockNo, so I get +/- beside names
06:19.32AAA_awrightYou have to have -public and -publicaddr given
06:19.43Flashthat's actually mostly up to the client
06:19.57Flashthe client sends the authentication to the list server and gets a token back
06:20.10iShockBut how do I make it connect to the list server?
06:20.11blast007you have to use -public to be on the list
06:20.11Flashyour server can validate that the token is legitimate and then they get a +
06:20.18iShockThanks, blast :P
06:20.21blast007also need to have your port forwarded properly
06:20.26iShockI can connect fine.
06:20.35blast007right, but can anyone else?
06:20.42blast007does it show up ON the list?
06:20.53blast007if you aren't on the list, you won't get auth
06:20.55iShockOnce I use -public it does.
06:21.06iShockNow, how do I let normal users use /countdown TIME?
06:21.22blast007by giving them the right permission via your group file
06:21.30blast007probably called 'countdown'
06:21.31iShockgroup file .. /me lost
06:21.40blast007look at our wiki
06:22.21blast007http://my.bzflag.org/w/
06:22.44blast007I'm sure you can find some information there
06:22.45iShockWhat am I looking for in there?
06:23.20iShockI found http://my.bzflag.org/w/Server_Permissions so far :,
06:23.31blast007group file would be something to look for...
06:24.09iShockAdmins can use it by default, right?
06:26.20iShockHm
06:26.27iShockNow just to get hidden-admin to work ..
06:31.04iShockHow do I use hiddenAdmin?
06:31.52iShockAnyone?
06:34.00iShockblast007 is this right? -loadplugin /home/lee/bzflag-2.0.12/plugins/hiddenAdmin/hiddenAdmin.so
06:37.16iShockAAA_awright, flash?
06:37.26AAA_awrightUh
06:37.33AAA_awrightShould be
06:37.50iShockWtf.
06:38.02iShockCan I pm you?
06:38.51AAA_awrightiShock: It is in .libs/
06:38.55AAA_awrighttry ls -la
06:39.26iShockNo :<
06:39.52Flashwhat platform?
06:40.04FlashLinux?
06:40.07iShockYeah.
06:40.19Flashdid you build from source or get a distribution?
06:40.30iShockBuilt from source
06:40.53Flashthen you have to move the .so from .libs like AAA_awright suggested
06:41.06iShockThe .so isn't in .libs
06:41.15AAA_awrightAnything in there at all?
06:41.18iShocklee@scalar:~/bzflag-2.0.12/plugins/hiddenAdmin/.libs$ ls
06:41.18iShockhiddenAdmin.a  hiddenAdmin.la  hiddenAdmin.lai
06:41.32Flashdid you configure with --enable-shared ?
06:41.45iShockYou mean bzflag?
06:41.48Flash(don't know if that's required for plugins, since they don't make sense otherwise
06:41.55Flashhow did you build?
06:42.03Flashsvn co .....
06:42.07Flash./autogen.sh
06:42.18iShockNo, wget, ./autogen.sh, ./configure, make
06:42.46iShockI'll retry.
06:43.12Flashat the end of ./configure, it will tell you what it's going to build
06:43.21Flashor you could just pastebin the entire output
06:44.38iShockI'm redoing it entirely.
06:44.45iShockWith ./configure --enable-shared thistime.
06:48.50iShockFlash, still failing.
06:49.04iShock'Nothing to be done for `all'.'
06:49.38iShockmake clean && make all
06:49.41iShockFound a .so :)
06:49.53Flashbetter then
06:52.38iShockWorks :)
06:52.43iShockWell, almost.
06:52.53iShock'This server was not configured for manual clock countdowns' or something.
06:54.00iShockFlash, how do I let /countdown TIME work?
06:58.28BulletCatcherTo make /countdown work you need to add 2 options to bzfs.
06:58.51iShock-time 1800 and -timemanual?
06:58.51BulletCatcherFirst, -time 1800 (or the number of seconds you want a match to last).
06:59.06BulletCatcherSecond, -timemanual enables the /countdown command.
06:59.17iShock1800 is 30 mins rite?
06:59.20BulletCatcherYes.
06:59.27iShockThanks.
07:00.02BulletCatcherHe'll be back.
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17:30.10CIA-43BZFlag: 03bthansen * r19002 10/trunk/bzflag/src/platform/XWindow.cxx:
17:30.10CIA-43BZFlag: Fix const-ness so it compiles on GCC 4.0.3
17:30.10CIA-43BZFlag: The header says it's const but the definition
17:30.10CIA-43BZFlag: isn't ... so now it is.
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18:29.45iShockAnyone here>?
18:29.48JeffMyes
18:30.15iShockCool. How can I only let people spawn/talk on my server if they're in a certain group on the forums?
18:30.42JeffMmake a groupdb file, and make an everyone group that dosn't have the spawn and talk permision
18:30.57JeffMthen make a group that has the same name as the global group and give them spawn and talk
18:31.16JeffMthere is a sample groupdb in /misc in the source package
18:31.25iShockK, lemme see if I can find it.
18:31.32JeffMwhat OS are you on?
18:32.01iShockDebian, I found it
18:32.04JeffMk
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18:32.11JeffMhe lives!
18:33.07iShockHm
18:33.37JeffMby default everyone has talk and spawn, so you have to define a new everyone with out those perms
18:34.24iShockEVERYONE: NONE?
18:34.35JeffMEVERYONE: -SPAWN -TALK
18:34.38JeffMthat'd be the simplest
18:34.44iShockOh, cool.
18:34.50JeffMthat will expeclictly deny them those perms
18:34.58iShockTell the example not to hold out with the -PERM stuff :<
18:35.11JeffMhuh?
18:35.24iShockThe example doesn't have -whatever
18:35.32JeffMyes it's just a basic sample
18:35.36JeffMthe real info is in the man page
18:35.56JeffMit is not intended to be full documenation
18:36.30iShockEVERYONE: -SPAWN -TALK groupname.onforums: SPAWN TALK COUNTDOWN ?
18:36.50JeffMthe one on the wiki has more info
18:36.51JeffMhttp://my.bzflag.org/w/Sample_Group_File
18:37.16JeffMthose should be on seperate lines, but yeah that should work IIRC
18:37.21JeffMassuming your server is public
18:38.12iShockIt is.
18:38.51iShock-userdb file.ext?
18:38.58JeffMgroupdb
18:39.04JeffMuserdb is for local users
18:39.07JeffMand you don't want to do that
18:39.12iShockOh, I was close :<
18:39.22JeffMhave you read the manpage?
18:39.28iShockYeah.
18:39.32iShockWell
18:39.34iShockGlanced over it.
18:39.38JeffMthen you have not
18:39.44JeffMI highly recomend you read it
18:40.29iShockEh, I will, brb, let me test this
18:41.08JeffMErroneous, feeling better?
18:41.17Erroneoussure
18:41.26iShockJeffM, an unregistered user not in the group could still spawn. :(
18:41.59JeffMiShock, then debug it, see why
18:44.18iShockdoesn't see much
18:44.46iShockGot line: "MSG: checktoken callsign=Freenod, ip=12.218.218.49, token=NONE  group=EVERONE group=EVERYONE group=GU.LEAGUE group=VERIFIED"
18:45.20JeffMthis is for GU?
18:45.28iShockYeah.
18:45.47JeffMthey should have a group DB you can use
18:45.56JeffMthey do a lot of special stuff
18:46.07JeffMbest to get the info from them, rather then build your own.
18:46.58iShockOh goodie, I found catay's timelimit plugin
18:47.00JeffMbut it would be my guess that since they are in the verified group
18:47.08JeffMthat group still has spawn
18:47.25iShockBut it's not a registered name
18:48.08JeffMthen you have other issues, if you are getting VERIFIED back from that name
18:48.36iShockI didn't get a + or a - next to my name
18:48.45JeffMbut seriously ask the GU admins
18:48.48JeffMthis is what they do
18:48.57JeffMthey have specific ways they do leauge server setups
18:49.35JeffMthey have an IRC channel too
18:49.54JeffMdo you have a userdb and a passdb?
18:50.15iShockNo
18:50.25JeffMgood
18:50.51ErroneousEVERONE <- might want a "Y" in that...
18:50.58JeffMHAH
18:51.07iShock..son of a ... thanks :P
18:51.31iShockI feel dumb now :(
18:51.58Erroneousdistributed proofreaders, at your service :)
18:52.33iShock:<
18:55.10iShockThanks a ton Erroneous, it works now :P
18:55.18Erroneousno problem :)
18:55.32iShockhits himself and goes bak to bzflag
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