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| 01:13.02 | delusional | no problems with 4 new ttf fonts |
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| 04:14.57 | Happy_Alice | JeffM2501 ping |
| 04:16.20 | JeffM2501 | ? |
| 04:16.34 | Happy_Alice | are u JeffM ? |
| 04:16.37 | JeffM2501 | yes |
| 04:16.44 | Happy_Alice | or is he someone else? |
| 04:16.45 | Happy_Alice | ok |
| 04:16.51 | Happy_Alice | do u remember me? |
| 04:17.00 | JeffM2501 | I think so |
| 04:17.08 | Happy_Alice | the translator |
| 04:17.13 | JeffM2501 | that's right |
| 04:17.34 | Happy_Alice | i still have problem with asian font |
| 04:17.39 | Happy_Alice | inside the client |
| 04:17.49 | Happy_Alice | but the output is corect in the terminal |
| 04:17.55 | JeffM2501 | yeah I think that's a general problem |
| 04:18.00 | JeffM2501 | DTRemenak needs to look at it |
| 04:18.04 | JeffM2501 | he did all our unicode support |
| 04:18.06 | Happy_Alice | who is able to help me? |
| 04:18.10 | JeffM2501 | DTRemenak: |
| 04:18.12 | Happy_Alice | ok |
| 04:18.25 | Happy_Alice | may i contact him ? |
| 04:18.28 | JeffM2501 | I don't know if he's online right now, he was out sick from work |
| 04:18.28 | JeffM2501 | sure |
| 04:18.44 | JeffM2501 | but you can always send him a PM on the boards, or I think he has his email public |
| 04:18.48 | JeffM2501 | he's a good guy |
| 04:18.52 | Happy_Alice | does he already know about my patch ? |
| 04:19.02 | JeffM2501 | I belive so |
| 04:19.32 | Happy_Alice | ok... so he wont take me for a crazy girl evading from an hospital :-) |
| 04:19.43 | JeffM2501 | no he shant |
| 04:20.48 | Happy_Alice | thank you JeffM for all ur help...i want to do a last effort for my patch and make him works as he should. Maybe it can help |
| 04:21.15 | Happy_Alice | bye |
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| 14:44.34 | delusional | I'm not understanding how "data" is used as a bzdb variable name, trepan. |
| 14:45.26 | delusional | and i think that "lengthPerPixel 0.0 # draw distance cutoff length" should mention that it is relative to worldsize, in the manpage. |
| 15:31.25 | trepan | data _varname \n bzdb |
| 15:31.43 | trepan | relative to worldsize? |
| 15:32.43 | trepan | "bzdb # use 'data' as a BZDB variable name" -- not clear? |
| 15:36.49 | delusional | the data that is entered as data becomes a settable variable? so if I enter "data bob" i can /set _bob dead? |
| 15:37.24 | trepan | data _bob |
| 15:38.21 | trepan | bother looking at the example test map that's running? |
| 15:39.05 | delusional | been working on my own |
| 15:40.28 | trepan | that's nice, but the reason for providing examples is so that others can learn from them ;-) |
| 15:42.09 | delusional | yeah, i'm working off of yours. it would be backwards, but there's no way to see the text from all sides? |
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| 15:43.19 | trepan | noculling |
| 15:43.49 | delusional | shouldn a font report that it has been downloaded, along with textures? |
| 15:44.11 | trepan | it's treated as a texture download, check your logs |
| 15:44.37 | trepan | hm, have you even setup the download? has to be done in a material |
| 15:46.04 | trepan | (as shown in the example map) |
| 15:46.04 | trepan | haven't finished tying it in so that you don't need the extra material |
| 15:46.04 | delusional | material names can be used? |
| 15:47.27 | trepan | sure |
| 15:47.39 | trepan | but texture->font label transfer wont happen |
| 15:47.50 | delusional | ah, i see why mine werent showing. |
| 15:49.20 | delusional | LPP is relative to world size, as you increase worldsize, you can be that much farther away, before your object disappears. |
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| 16:06.30 | trepan | delusional: i don't think that you understand the meaning of length-per-pixel |
| 16:06.48 | trepan | nor do I think you do any testing before making such statements |
| 16:08.31 | delusional | jeff's right, i get given some new material to work with, and i just beat on it with a hammer. |
| 16:11.57 | delusional | i definitely learned some incorrect information along the way to "figuring out" drawinfo. |
| 16:12.34 | delusional | you were the key though, when you told me that everything i needed was insidethe obj format. |
| 16:13.13 | delusional | still if tedius had not come along, i was hopeless. |
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| 17:41.37 | delusional | so I changed my key mapping so it does not use the down arrow key, no more freeze while driving. I can still freeze it by wailing on any function key, or escape. |
| 17:44.21 | delusional | can still crash it with down arrow key, in menus. by wailing on up arrow key for awhile, then hitting down arrow once. |
| 17:48.06 | delusional | if i increase the system key repeat rate, down arrow crashes bzflag menus immediately. |
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| 18:26.03 | hdtv301 | 92.168.2.31:5154 |
| 18:26.12 | JeffM2501 | cool thanks for the IP |
| 18:26.18 | JeffM2501 | we'll add it to the list |
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| 20:12.23 | TD-Linux | whoa |
| 20:12.24 | TD-Linux | I just realized |
| 20:12.32 | TD-Linux | bzflag is at revision 19000 |
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| 21:17.43 | Flash | svn up's so as not to miss the epic revision |
| 21:20.52 | Dessy | hello i have a samall question |
| 21:21.23 | Dessy | Can i run a server with a higher vserion of libcurl than 7.15.1 |
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| 22:36.03 | blast007 | Dessy: should be able to, but have you tried and had an issue? |
| 22:36.25 | Dessy | i dont tried ^^ |
| 22:36.36 | Dessy | i just waited till i have an answer ^^ |
| 22:38.05 | Dessy | i think my server have connection problems to bzflag.org |
| 22:38.36 | Dessy | i must wait some sec till i get a ping |
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| 22:42.27 | blast007 | I'm using 7.15.5 on my server |
| 22:42.57 | blast007 | debian etch |
| 22:46.49 | Dessy | suse 10.1 |
| 22:46.51 | Dessy | here |
| 22:47.02 | delusional | blast007, flash helped me with gdb, now i got something you might want to see. http://pastebin.bzflag.bz/d254575f0 |
| 22:47.31 | delusional | SDL 1.2.9 |
| 22:47.52 | blast007 | can you run 'bt' ? |
| 22:48.05 | blast007 | that might be the same as 'where', but that doesn't look like bzflag code |
| 22:48.22 | blast007 | ah, SDL stuff |
| 22:48.41 | blast007 | wonders if your SDLmain doesn't match your SDL library |
| 22:51.15 | blast007 | "[20:10:13] < JeffM> if you updated your SDL, but didn't add the new SDLmain to bzflag, you could have issues" |
| 22:52.22 | blast007 | try finding the file SDLMain.m from your SDL install and overwrite the one at src/platform/MacOSX/SDLMain.m |
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| 22:53.00 | blast007 | not sure if that'll rebuild what's necessary automatically, or of you'll need to do a 'make clean' and then a 'make' again |
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| 23:06.08 | JeffM2501 | hmmmm... 94$ for a cd/dvd/dvdrw/hdvd/blu-ray drive..... |
| 23:07.09 | delusional | blast007, ...bt http://pastebin.bzflag.bz/d308d420c |
| 23:14.49 | TD-Linux | JeffM2501: does it also make cake? |
| 23:15.09 | JeffM2501 | one would hope |
| 23:15.16 | JeffM2501 | still a good price for all those things in one |
| 23:15.22 | JeffM2501 | HDDVDs are like hella cheap |
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| 23:29.57 | Dessy | cya night guys! |
| 23:40.33 | delusional | From latest SDL release.... MacOSX notes .. Fixed high frequency crash involving text input. |
| 23:44.22 | delusional | hmm, "about this mac" ... frameworks pane reports SDL version higher than what is available from libsdl.org |
| 23:45.03 | delusional | I have 1.2.9 and highest available is 1.2.13 |
| 23:50.19 | trepan | any objections to moving CacheManager.cxx into game/? (from mediafiles) |
| 23:51.03 | trepan | could also go into common/, nothing 'game' specific in it |
| 23:51.44 | trepan | (directory is set externally with 'setCacheDirectory()' |
| 23:53.13 | Flash | I think we should add a README file to each directory describing what files belong there. We haven't been overly successful at having good separation of concerns in our libraries |
| 23:54.09 | trepan | from common/README: lly, or of you'll need to do a 'make clean' and then a 'make' again |
| 23:54.29 | trepan | sry ... This directory should only contain code that is not specific to bzflag logic and could probably even be used in other applications without modification |
| 23:55.04 | Flash | still kind of vague. Why have separate "common" and "net" for example? |
| 23:55.12 | Flash | "net" should have the same disclaimer |
| 23:55.23 | trepan | it does |
| 23:55.27 | trepan | read the README |
| 23:55.37 | Flash | looks before speaking again..... |
| 23:56.29 | trepan | and from mediafile/README: This directory contains loaders for image and sound files |
| 23:56.38 | trepan | i think moving CacheManager is appropriate ;-) |
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| 23:59.10 | Flash | is there an explicit order of dependency between libraries? |