| 00:00.09 | JeffM | since you would not want to have 10 people who can voite, 9 abstain, and one vote yes, then it passes |
| 00:01.08 | blast007 | yeah, they count as no |
| 00:01.55 | JeffM | making them not count would cause some problems I think |
| 00:02.47 | BulletCatcher | Server admins can already use the -poll option to adjust the minimum percentage for passing a poll. |
| 00:03.26 | JeffM | yeah but if we don't count abstainers, the 9 abstain situation has 100% passage ;) |
| 00:04.01 | JeffM | blind poll creation like that has problems no mater what |
| 00:04.25 | JeffM | now ignoring people on the same IP could be a good option |
| 00:04.32 | JeffM | as I think that would be rare where that is valid |
| 00:04.38 | JeffM | or only count them as one |
| 00:05.03 | JeffM | or check if they vote the same, etc... |
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| 00:16.39 | CIA-39 | BZFlag: 03trepan * r18946 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/lua/ (9 files): |
| 00:16.39 | CIA-39 | BZFlag: * added environmental variable expansion for the lua script path |
| 00:16.39 | CIA-39 | BZFlag: * added slash command handling |
| 00:16.39 | CIA-39 | BZFlag: * allowed GetWorldEvent to return gameMode, worldFile, and worldBlob |
| 00:16.39 | CIA-39 | BZFlag: * added the BZ.ReadStdin() callout for dev'ing on unix machines (non-blocking read()) |
| 00:16.42 | CIA-39 | BZFlag: * added the BZ.DirList(path) -> {files}, {dirs} callout |
| 00:16.44 | CIA-39 | BZFlag: * added a bunch of other lua call-outs (see the diff for callouts.cpp) |
| 00:17.43 | CIA-39 | BZFlag: 03trepan * r18947 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/lua/ (bzfs.lua plugins/ plugins.lua): * replacing the bzfs lua examples, part 1 |
| 00:19.01 | CIA-39 | BZFlag: 03trepan * r18948 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/lua/example/ (9 files in 2 dirs): * replacing the bzfs lua examples, part 2 |
| 00:20.23 | CIA-39 | BZFlag: 03trepan * r18949 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/ (Makefile.am configure.ac plugin_utils/plugin_files.cpp): * enabled the bzfs lua plugin build |
| 00:20.59 | delusional | is there a plugin that resets unused flags once an hour? |
| 00:21.57 | me1 | I think some people used chrontab or whatever it was called to do that |
| 00:23.58 | delusional | we use cron to do that at mofo, but cron is kinda messy to use, still crashes the server on join approx 10 percent of the time. |
| 00:33.53 | trepan | all at once, or staggered over the span of an hour? |
| 00:34.32 | delusional | ideally configrable.... more players = more flags moving to the corners |
| 00:35.08 | JeffM | it would not be hard to write |
| 00:35.15 | delusional | fifteen minutes or 30 would be good |
| 00:35.47 | delusional | we do it every 15 using cron |
| 00:36.28 | delusional | if we didnt have cron, i'm sure we would have written it. |
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| 00:36.59 | L4m3r | we (I) did write it. it's called... flagReset! |
| 00:37.10 | delusional | hehe, where is it l4? |
| 00:37.39 | L4m3r | http://l4m3r.bzflag.net/plugins/svn/l4m3r/trunk/flagReset/ |
| 00:37.51 | L4m3r | you can use svn to get it |
| 00:39.44 | L4m3r | pass a param for the frequency of flag resets... and apparently there is a warning option too |
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| 00:41.25 | spldart | Woah.. I didn't realize cron was that unreliable for that task.... Is it more reliable for other tasks or does it kinda suck to use cron? |
| 00:41.37 | delusional | thanks.. wish you would have been around when i asked a couple weeks ago on another channel |
| 00:42.03 | delusional | cron occasionally crashes the server when it attempts to join. |
| 00:42.11 | delusional | it's done that for ages |
| 00:42.34 | delusional | approx 10 percent of the time, just restart and try again.... |
| 00:42.47 | delusional | once it joins properly its stable. |
| 00:45.13 | delusional | trepan, any thought of allowing /saveworld to include comments? perhaps a license block? |
| 00:45.49 | trepan | let maps specify a url |
| 00:45.59 | trepan | (to download them in raw form) |
| 00:47.44 | trepan | iirc, a had talked about adding a leading comments block a _long_ time ago |
| 00:48.16 | trepan | s/, a/, I |
| 00:48.42 | delusional | maybe disable /saveworld ? |
| 00:49.12 | delusional | some mappers would like that, i am not among them |
| 00:49.25 | trepan | i certainly don't care enough, especially as it's easy to bypass |
| 00:50.02 | JeffM | delusional, we have a spec for that |
| 00:50.09 | JeffM | mapinfo object |
| 00:50.16 | JeffM | saveworld can't save comments now |
| 00:50.22 | JeffM | since the text of the map isn't sent to the client |
| 00:54.04 | JeffM | http://my.bzflag.org/w/Map_Info(object) |
| 00:56.46 | trepan | hehe, that was written almost a year ago |
| 00:57.08 | blast007 | if we did something like gzip the original map file and send that instead, it typically wouldn't use much more bandwidth than what our cache file is |
| 00:57.20 | JeffM | trepan, yeah noone ever said we were fast |
| 00:57.33 | JeffM | blast007, I prefer the source URL |
| 00:57.37 | JeffM | why make the client do it |
| 00:57.39 | blast007 | k |
| 00:57.43 | trepan | blast007: i've already started to add zip support; but for something else |
| 00:57.44 | JeffM | since it can download from the web already |
| 00:57.49 | trepan | probably not for 3.x |
| 00:58.18 | JeffM | if lib bzw was done, we could just send the compressed text |
| 00:58.24 | JeffM | and not have to hav a binary transfer |
| 00:58.29 | JeffM | but well.. it's not done |
| 00:58.29 | trepan | and iirc, i did do some gzip vs. binary(compressed) testing |
| 00:58.53 | trepan | gzipping wasn't that great (long numbers representation for floating point was the prob) |
| 00:59.29 | trepan | and libbzw would be guaranteed to generate the same binary data on all clients? |
| 00:59.42 | JeffM | trepan, that's the plan |
| 01:00.02 | JeffM | Erroneous had all the big plans for that lib |
| 01:00.13 | JeffM | fastmap on trunk makes our current transfers a lot better |
| 01:00.32 | trepan | ie: Tupone addition of http:// transfers |
| 01:00.36 | JeffM | the big kicker was that you were limited to 1k transfer for every 2x lag times |
| 01:00.55 | JeffM | yeah HTTP map transfers are a lot faster |
| 01:01.12 | JeffM | fastmap lets bzfs do that with out a third party HTTP server |
| 01:01.16 | trepan | that is to say: fastmap made it easier to setup, Tupone made it faster ;-) |
| 01:01.45 | JeffM | yes |
| 01:12.45 | Erroneous | spldart: bzfscron for 2.0 miffs the join sometimes, so you a) have to load it during startup and b) need to be aware that bzfs might crash before it finishes starting, when bzfscron tries to join |
| 01:13.39 | Erroneous | it's pretty reliable as long as it's "first in," it just gets in a fight with the list server sometimes |
| 01:14.06 | spldart | heh |
| 01:14.10 | Erroneous | and using it on a running server is a no-no |
| 01:15.05 | Erroneous | bzfscron for bzfs 3.0 uses server-side players, so it won't have the same problem |
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| 03:55.44 | CIA-39 | BZFlag: 03bullet_catcher * r18950 10/trunk/bzflag/ (misc/lua_localizer.lua plugins/lua/lua.def): Add the Subversion svn:eol-style=native property. |
| 04:01.19 | trepan | BulletCatcher: odd, i have that *.lua entry in ~/.subversion/config |
| 04:01.43 | BulletCatcher | You committed those files a couple of days ago. |
| 04:03.25 | BulletCatcher | The more recent ones are fine. |
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| 07:15.05 | CIA-39 | BZFlag: 03trepan * r18951 10/trunk/bzflag/ (4 files in 3 dirs): * adding files for the MapInfo feature |
| 07:15.53 | CIA-39 | BZFlag: 03trepan * r18952 10/trunk/bzflag/include/Makefile.am: * listed MapInfo.h |
| 07:17.29 | CIA-39 | BZFlag: 03trepan * r18953 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzfs/ (BZWReader.cxx Makefile.am WorldInfo.cxx WorldInfo.h): * MapInfo for bzfs, breaks protocol -- fixed in imminent commit |
| 07:18.49 | CIA-39 | BZFlag: 03trepan * r18954 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzflag/ (World.cxx World.h WorldBuilder.cxx): * more MapInfo changes |
| 07:19.27 | CIA-39 | BZFlag: 03trepan * r18955 10/trunk/bzflag/src/ (date/buildDate.cxx game/Makefile.am): * and this should be it for MapInfo |
| 07:23.58 | CIA-39 | BZFlag: 03trepan * r18956 10/trunk/bzflag/src/game/MapInfo.cxx: |
| 07:23.58 | CIA-39 | BZFlag: * this it, except for fixes ... removed a couple of FIXME's |
| 07:23.58 | CIA-39 | BZFlag: * forget to mention, bumped the Protocol to 0068 |
| 07:24.42 | BulletCatcher | trepan: Please increment the minor version number when the protocol changes. This will give us 2.99.10. |
| 07:25.04 | trepan | why? |
| 07:25.52 | BulletCatcher | When we create tarballs, it makes it easy to see what is compatible with what. |
| 07:26.39 | trepan | if you want to be sure about it -- tag your tarballs with the proto number |
| 07:27.44 | BulletCatcher | That would require a different kind of change to the build system. |
| 08:02.56 | CIA-39 | BZFlag: 03trepan * r18957 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzfs/CustomMapInfo.h: * WorldFileObject will suffice |
| 08:41.54 | CIA-39 | BZFlag: 03bullet_catcher * r18958 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfsAPI.cxx: Use lastPluginDir only when plugins are being built. |
| 08:44.32 | CIA-39 | BZFlag: 03bullet_catcher * r18959 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/lua/Makefile.am: Adjust the EXTRA_DIST list to reflect the current file organization. |
| 08:46.38 | CIA-39 | BZFlag: 03bullet_catcher * r18960 10/trunk/bzflag/ (configure.ac src/other/Makefile.am): When plugins are being built, build the lua library to satisfy dependencies. |
| 08:57.12 | CIA-39 | BZFlag: 03bullet_catcher * r18961 10/trunk/bzflag/ (plugins/lua/ src/other/lua/): Set the Subversion svn:ignore property to ignore some built files. |
| 08:59.58 | CIA-39 | BZFlag: 03trepan * r18962 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzfs/WorldGenerators.cxx: * create mapinfo sections for generated worlds |
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| 18:51.01 | CIA-39 | BZFlag: * replaced the CustomMapObject() call-in with function registration |
| 18:51.01 | CIA-39 | BZFlag: (as was done for SlashCommands). The callouts are now: |
| 18:51.01 | CIA-39 | BZFlag: BZ.AttachMapObject(string name, function func) |
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| 18:51.04 | CIA-39 | BZFlag: BZ.DetachSlashCommand(string name) |
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| 19:15.27 | corndawg | anyone here use blender and bzw-toolkit |
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| 22:03.32 | TD-Linux | they export to OBJ and then use modeltool to convert |
| 22:03.42 | TD-Linux | and assemble the main map file by hand |
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