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| 00:40.20 | BulletCatcher | The segfault at exit occurs when WorldEventManager::~WorldEventManager() calls (*itr)->autoDelete(). |
| 00:40.23 | BulletCatcher | Could this be because there are no autoDelete() methods for the events registered by the plugins? |
| 00:45.28 | BulletCatcher | It seems like adding a LoopHandler::autoDelete() method should cover most of the cases for the webadmin plugin. |
| 00:52.33 | BulletCatcher | But that didn't help (or was not enough). |
| 01:01.21 | JeffM | hmmm |
| 01:01.36 | JeffM | that means it's calling autodelete on somethingg that has been deleted |
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| 01:01.51 | JeffM | so the loops arn't removing there events |
| 01:02.02 | JeffM | autodelete is only for stuff that is inside bz |
| 01:02.42 | JeffM | the default autodelete on the base class is false, so always exists even if the derived versions don |
| 01:02.44 | JeffM | 't |
| 01:02.59 | JeffM | ahh I know why |
| 01:03.03 | JeffM | we never clear the loops |
| 01:10.40 | JeffM | BulletCatcher: update and see if that helps |
| 01:24.10 | Flash | I've been in and out... how do I run it? |
| 01:26.32 | JeffM | it's a plugin |
| 01:26.36 | JeffM | that loads another plugin |
| 01:26.42 | JeffM | and reads some files off your disk |
| 01:27.03 | JeffM | the simplest way is to build bz with the plugins |
| 01:27.21 | JeffM | move webadmin and HTTPserver plugins to the plugins dir |
| 01:27.26 | JeffM | then load JUST webadmin |
| 01:27.37 | JeffM | and make sure you have a global group that has admin |
| 01:32.18 | JeffM | and then when you are done it should look like this, http://dnd.opencombat.net:5154/webadmin |
| 01:36.56 | Flash | is a server noob |
| 01:37.03 | Flash | how do I specify the group? |
| 01:42.37 | blast007 | with a groupdb |
| 01:43.02 | Flash | is that just a group name, and not a file? |
| 01:43.06 | JeffM | a file |
| 01:43.12 | JeffM | -groupdb file.name |
| 01:43.17 | JeffM | I just do this in the file |
| 01:43.20 | JeffM | Developers: ALL |
| 01:43.40 | Flash | oh... it lists the global groups.... got it |
| 01:44.03 | JeffM | the file has the global groups that your server assigns permisions too |
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| 01:45.55 | Flash | ow.... ctrl C on the server is a bad thing |
| 01:46.01 | JeffM | yeah we know |
| 01:46.13 | JeffM | that part needs debugin |
| 01:46.18 | JeffM | but it's a somewhat minor thing |
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| 01:58.20 | Flash | ow ow. Now my client crashes |
| 02:06.04 | Flash | hmmmm. I got a token back, but I'm not identified? |
| 02:07.51 | JeffM | I crash on the list server |
| 02:07.54 | JeffM | that's it |
| 02:08.07 | BulletCatcher | JeffM: r18622 fixed the WorldEventManager problem. Now it segfaults at exit "in bz_Unload () at webadmin.cpp:58". |
| 02:08.08 | BulletCatcher | The address is a suspiciously low 0x0000000000000021. |
| 02:08.16 | JeffM | hmm ok |
| 02:08.25 | JeffM | well at least we are narrowing down on it :) |
| 02:08.37 | BulletCatcher | One problem fixed. On to the next. |
| 02:08.48 | Flash | I took the plugin out because my client just crashes |
| 02:09.06 | Flash | if I run full screen, it gets std::bad_alloc; with -window it is OK |
| 02:09.11 | JeffM | Flash: plugins don't use the client |
| 02:09.29 | Flash | I know, but I failed authentication in the webadmin plugin too |
| 02:09.38 | Flash | so I wanted to check it out |
| 02:09.55 | JeffM | wonder what is blowing out the main pointer |
| 02:10.19 | JeffM | BulletCatcher: can you set a data breakpoint for when webAdmin changes? |
| 02:10.27 | JeffM | it should only change at allocation |
| 02:11.03 | BulletCatcher | I just need to find the gdb command for that. |
| 02:11.43 | JeffM | or try this first, throw a breakpoint in the WebAdmin destructor |
| 02:11.54 | JeffM | and see if it's bad then |
| 02:12.00 | JeffM | maybe it crashes in the destructor |
| 02:13.13 | JeffM | bahh |
| 02:13.15 | JeffM | I'm stupid again |
| 02:15.00 | Flash | waits for the commit.... |
| 02:15.05 | JeffM | I wasn't iterating the iterator |
| 02:15.15 | JeffM | CIA-48 is slow/busted you won't see it |
| 02:15.16 | BulletCatcher | oops :-) |
| 02:15.28 | Flash | hugs CIA-48 |
| 02:15.29 | CIA-48 | hugs Flash |
| 02:15.30 | JeffM | yeah but now it's still got some rouge events left over |
| 02:15.48 | JeffM | that's what the autodelete problem is, events that are gone, but not removed. |
| 02:17.25 | Flash | I still have authentication issues :-( |
| 02:17.37 | JeffM | you behind a proxy server? |
| 02:17.48 | Flash | oh yeah, that's probably it |
| 02:17.56 | Flash | NAT ftl |
| 02:18.35 | JeffM | NAT is fine |
| 02:18.45 | JeffM | it's a caching proxy that isn't |
| 02:18.59 | JeffM | found the event :) |
| 02:22.26 | BulletCatcher | In r18623 the segfault is back in ~WorldEventManager. Let us know when the next fix is in. |
| 02:22.45 | JeffM | commiting now |
| 02:22.53 | JeffM | it's not the same segfault |
| 02:22.57 | JeffM | different message |
| 02:23.02 | CIA-48 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r18624 10/trunk/bzflag/ (4 files in 2 dirs): be sure to free all the events that we register |
| 02:23.06 | JeffM | there we go |
| 02:23.11 | BulletCatcher | stupid CIA |
| 02:23.13 | JeffM | that quits cleanly for me |
| 02:24.17 | BulletCatcher | WorldEventManager.cxx:37: warning: declaration of 'eventList' shadows a member of 'this' |
| 02:24.31 | JeffM | wtf? |
| 02:24.54 | JeffM | bahh I didn't want to commit that |
| 02:25.54 | CIA-48 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r18625 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzfs/WorldEventManager.cxx: don't need the silly ref anyway, it's just for debugin |
| 02:26.35 | BulletCatcher | compiles successfully now |
| 02:27.06 | BulletCatcher | Stops cleanly too. Yay! |
| 02:27.12 | JeffM | cool |
| 02:27.32 | Flash | ctrl C isn't painful anymore |
| 02:29.03 | JeffM | Flash: can you log into http://dnd.opencombat.net:5154/webadmin |
| 02:29.25 | Flash | yes |
| 02:29.46 | JeffM | wonder why it dosn't work localy for you |
| 02:30.04 | Flash | probably my firewall isn't forwarding what it needs to |
| 02:30.35 | BulletCatcher | Does a private server even try to talk to the list server? |
| 02:30.36 | JeffM | if your server does not have a -publicaddr it's going to use "localhost" for the URL |
| 02:30.51 | JeffM | BulletCatcher: normaly no, but this does it's own lookups, so it can work on private servers |
| 02:30.52 | Flash | my server is not public |
| 02:31.23 | JeffM | Flash: then it'll do it all with localhost, but still auth with the list server |
| 02:31.25 | JeffM | that's how I test |
| 02:31.26 | Flash | I was using http://127.0.0.1:5154/webadmin |
| 02:31.36 | JeffM | try localhost |
| 02:31.42 | JeffM | that's what it defaults to internaly |
| 02:31.59 | JeffM | should probably do a bzdbvar that it can read from for privates with domains |
| 02:32.18 | Flash | same effect |
| 02:32.31 | Flash | as I said, though, my client doesn't auth either |
| 02:32.32 | JeffM | dunno then |
| 02:32.37 | Flash | even though it returns a token |
| 02:32.38 | JeffM | probably caching then |
| 02:32.46 | JeffM | is it always the same token? ;) |
| 02:32.58 | Flash | never looked... |
| 02:33.54 | Flash | no, different tokens |
| 02:33.59 | JeffM | wierd |
| 02:34.22 | blast007 | probably getting denied at the list server |
| 02:34.43 | blast007 | does the plugin send the IP of the user when it checks the token? |
| 02:35.04 | blast007 | if so, 127.0.0.1 will not be the same as the remote address that was used to access the weblogin form |
| 02:35.54 | Flash | my address to the plugin will be the local 192.168..... address, which isn't what the list server sees, but surely others have dealt with it |
| 02:36.42 | blast007 | I haven't tried from my local machine |
| 02:36.53 | blast007 | always been running it from my dedicated server |
| 02:38.52 | JeffM | it dosn't check IP |
| 02:39.56 | blast007 | k |
| 02:40.21 | JeffM | I've been testing from localhost since I started working on the thing |
| 02:40.26 | BulletCatcher | I get a "Not authenticated sessionID NNNNNN" message on both my local server and the dnd server. Am I not in the Developers group? |
| 02:40.42 | JeffM | you timed out |
| 02:40.50 | JeffM | I have a crapy session system right now :) |
| 02:40.54 | JeffM | it's a very short timeout |
| 02:41.15 | BulletCatcher | So I just need to type my callsign and password faster? |
| 02:41.33 | JeffM | well it's like 5min or something |
| 02:41.42 | JeffM | maybe you arn't in the group, let me look |
| 02:41.49 | Flash | no, I don't see you there |
| 02:42.35 | JeffM | what is your bzbb name? |
| 02:42.43 | BulletCatcher | "Bullet Catcher" |
| 02:42.47 | JeffM | ahh with a space |
| 02:43.02 | JeffM | done |
| 02:43.06 | BulletCatcher | ty |
| 02:43.09 | JeffM | sure |
| 02:44.03 | BulletCatcher | Same result. |
| 02:44.15 | JeffM | wierdness |
| 02:44.29 | JeffM | adds better error messages |
| 02:45.00 | JeffM | curses the previous author |
| 02:45.36 | spldart | yikes |
| 02:46.22 | JeffM | ? |
| 02:47.18 | BulletCatcher | Whoa, being in the developers group makes me a forum moderator, too? |
| 02:47.29 | spldart | Nothing important.. just a sr. contributor cursing a previous or jr. editor. ;) |
| 02:47.50 | JeffM | one of the fourms allows it, so your name changes |
| 02:47.59 | spldart | s/editor/contributor |
| 02:48.05 | JeffM | spldart: it was bug |
| 02:48.09 | spldart | heh |
| 02:48.27 | JeffM | ok, it should give better error messages now |
| 02:48.37 | JeffM | there are 3 possible return states from the auth system |
| 02:48.49 | JeffM | 1) verified user, and in a group that has access. |
| 02:49.00 | JeffM | 0) verified user, but not in any group that has access. |
| 02:49.19 | JeffM | and -1) unverified user that the list server won't authenticate via token. |
| 02:49.37 | JeffM | those 3 states should return different things now |
| 02:51.12 | CIA-48 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r18626 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/webadmin/webadmin.cpp: |
| 02:51.12 | CIA-48 | BZFlag: 1) don't just let any old verified user in. |
| 02:51.12 | CIA-48 | BZFlag: 2) tell verified users kindly that they suck and aren't in a group when they aren't. |
| 02:51.12 | CIA-48 | BZFlag: 3) tell unverified token hackers to go stuff it. |
| 02:52.50 | a_temp_dist | block the onion router folks too |
| 02:52.56 | Flash | Not authenticated user, global auth verify failed |
| 02:53.36 | JeffM | then the list server didn't like your token |
| 02:59.20 | BulletCatcher | I get the same error as Flash, both on my own server and at dnd. |
| 02:59.55 | Flash | but I got in at dnd... |
| 03:00.00 | Flash | weird |
| 03:01.14 | JeffM | yay, chat and loging works :) |
| 03:02.15 | Thumper_ | I get page not found - but it may be a missing template or case sensitivity issue: http://bzflag3.norang.ca:10000/ |
| 03:02.56 | JeffM | I think that's a caps/no caps issue |
| 03:03.00 | JeffM | click main |
| 03:03.06 | JeffM | it'll show the main page |
| 03:03.09 | Thumper_ | yeah that works |
| 03:03.11 | JeffM | I can fix that |
| 03:03.55 | JeffM | how hard was it to setup? |
| 03:04.16 | Thumper_ | it was mostly set up already for me - just had to grab the new templates and rebuild it |
| 03:04.39 | JeffM | you know I can totaly mess up your server vars now right? |
| 03:04.45 | Thumper_ | go right ahead :) |
| 03:04.54 | BulletCatcher | webadmin is sending GET /db/?action=CHECKTOKENS&checktokens=Bullet%2BCatcher |
| 03:04.56 | BulletCatcher | Notice that %2B is encoded "+" rather than a space. Could that be my problem? |
| 03:04.59 | Thumper_ | server resets everyday and there's nothing useful in there anyway |
| 03:05.29 | JeffM | BulletCatcher: it's suposed to URLuncode it all |
| 03:05.36 | JeffM | but let me make sure it's doing it |
| 03:05.39 | JeffM | you sill space names |
| 03:06.43 | Flash | BulletCatcher: I assume you truncated the request? |
| 03:06.50 | BulletCatcher | Yes. |
| 03:06.55 | Flash | GET /db/?action=CHECKTOKENS&checktokens=Flash@127.0.0.1%3D127140737&groups= |
| 03:07.00 | BulletCatcher | + is a standard way of representing a space in URLs, and it shouldn't have to be encoded with %.. |
| 03:07.22 | JeffM | then maybe it's a problem with our URLencoder/decoder |
| 03:07.39 | JeffM | the responce from the list is parsed in void PendingTokenTask::done ( const char* /*URL*/, void * inData, unsigned int size, bool complete ) |
| 03:08.14 | JeffM | and in verifyToken |
| 03:08.45 | JeffM | looks like url_encode does + but decode does not |
| 03:09.51 | Flash | not that it should matter, but checking isWhiteSpace isn't quite right is it? should \t also be converted to + ? |
| 03:10.10 | JeffM | yeah cus \t in a URL is just freaking WRONG ;) |
| 03:10.13 | CIA-48 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r18627 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/plugin_utils/plugin_utils.cpp: + is a code for a space in a URL |
| 03:10.24 | Flash | like I said, not that it should matter ;-) |
| 03:11.21 | CIA-48 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r18628 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/plugin_utils/plugin_utils.cpp: opps. |
| 03:11.49 | Flash | I'm sure it's a dependency thing, but why doesn't plugin_utils/url_encode call TextUtils::url_encode ?? |
| 03:11.53 | CIA-48 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r18629 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/plugin_utils/plugin_utils.cpp: double oops |
| 03:12.23 | Flash | and why isn't there a TextUtils::url_decode ? |
| 03:12.32 | CIA-48 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r18630 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/plugin_utils/plugin_utils.cpp: ok, seriously.. last time. I swear |
| 03:12.32 | BulletCatcher | "commit early; commit often" |
| 03:12.33 | JeffM | because text utils isn't exported via the API |
| 03:12.56 | BulletCatcher | At least CIA is working.... |
| 03:13.01 | JeffM | breaks it |
| 03:13.02 | Flash | right, but shouldn't plugin_utils/url_encode just CALL TextUtils? |
| 03:13.05 | JeffM | no |
| 03:13.12 | JeffM | it's a different module |
| 03:13.22 | JeffM | if it's not exported, it is not sent out of the bzflag module |
| 03:13.24 | Flash | why not? bzfs_API::urlEncode does? |
| 03:13.25 | JeffM | bzfs |
| 03:13.34 | JeffM | because that is IN bzfs |
| 03:13.39 | JeffM | pluginutils is outside of it |
| 03:13.42 | JeffM | module seperation |
| 03:13.54 | JeffM | they are different binary modules |
| 03:14.21 | Flash | ok... cut/paste utils just feels wrong |
| 03:14.28 | JeffM | you do know that not every compiler blindly exports every freaking symbol like gcc does right? |
| 03:15.02 | JeffM | yes duplication is bad |
| 03:15.05 | Flash | I am passably functional with gcc; my "expertise" is with Sun |
| 03:15.06 | JeffM | bzflag should use pluginutils |
| 03:15.25 | JeffM | or some module that can be used by both |
| 03:15.47 | Flash | there should certainly be a place for application-neutral utils |
| 03:15.56 | JeffM | basicly since text utils isn't exported, on windows at least, the symbols and binary offsets for those functions and classes are not accessable from outside of the binary they are in |
| 03:16.16 | JeffM | so no, you just can't "call them" |
| 03:16.42 | JeffM | that's what the BZF_API macro does |
| 03:16.59 | JeffM | for bzfs, it tells the compiler to export the function offsets to the bzfs.lib |
| 03:17.18 | JeffM | and tells the plugin that the functions are external and to use the offsets from the lib when the DLL is loaded |
| 03:17.32 | Flash | if the "utils" were in a .so, shouldn't another .so loaded into the address space have access to them? or is windows TOTALLY different |
| 03:18.02 | Flash | (e.g., a plugin) |
| 03:18.02 | JeffM | if the utils were exported in a module, then yes, both bzfs and plugin could import them at run time |
| 03:18.11 | JeffM | except for the STL problem |
| 03:18.17 | Flash | ok, I think that's what I'm trying to say |
| 03:19.09 | JeffM | since STL is implemented in the headers, it is possible to get into a situation when adding or deleting stuff from a container to have memory that was allocated in one module be freed in another |
| 03:19.19 | JeffM | and that can have problems if the modules have different runtime libs |
| 03:19.33 | JeffM | so you have to be very carefull what you export and how |
| 03:20.16 | JeffM | for text utils I'd built it into a static lib and just link it to both |
| 03:20.36 | JeffM | sure it dupes a little bin code, but then you at least get to maintin one codebase |
| 03:22.08 | Swigg_ | Jeff, can you help a user with registration? |
| 03:22.16 | JeffM | possibly |
| 03:22.24 | Swigg_ | They are trying to register... |
| 03:22.32 | Swigg_ | but the email says it is registered |
| 03:22.42 | Swigg_ | bolderston@xtra.co.nz |
| 03:22.43 | JeffM | then another account has that email addy |
| 03:22.54 | JeffM | have them use another address |
| 03:23.01 | Swigg_ | can you tell which account it is? Maybe they already registered |
| 03:23.04 | JeffM | nope |
| 03:23.10 | JeffM | not untill we move to phpbb3 |
| 03:23.15 | Swigg_ | ouch |
| 03:23.26 | Swigg_ | I guess if you can't do it no one can |
| 03:23.33 | JeffM | yeah its' not a feature of the boards |
| 03:23.38 | Swigg_ | such is uaually the case |
| 03:23.50 | Swigg_ | how do you manage the database? |
| 03:23.53 | JeffM | someone with database access may be able to do some kind of wacky search |
| 03:23.55 | JeffM | manage? |
| 03:23.59 | JeffM | what is the word you speak of? |
| 03:24.19 | Swigg_ | I mean, if the board engine knows, why can't the users? |
| 03:24.45 | JeffM | because there is no inteface for it |
| 03:24.49 | Swigg_ | oh well I'll tell them to use another addy |
| 03:24.54 | JeffM | it is NOT a feature of phpbb2 |
| 03:24.57 | JeffM | it is in 3 |
| 03:25.34 | JeffM | I mean your computer techincaly "knows" all of the files that have MD5 sums that are prime numbers, but that dosn't mean there is a button for it ;) |
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| 03:30.33 | BulletCatcher | CIA is ignoring us (or at least me) again. I fixed a bug in plugin_utils.cpp in r18631. |
| 03:31.02 | BulletCatcher | Now I am back to the "Not authenticated user, global auth verify failed" error. |
| 03:31.54 | BulletCatcher | I wonder if we should be sending %40 instead of + to represent the space in my callsign. |
| 03:32.12 | JeffM | what does the game do? |
| 03:32.42 | JeffM | stupid iterators ;) |
| 03:33.04 | JeffM | got very used to foreach |
| 03:33.10 | BulletCatcher | Yeah. You'd think they would be smart enough to increment themselves. |
| 03:38.34 | CIA-48 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r18632 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/webadmin/ (actions.cpp webadmin.cpp): be sure that we go back to the right pages, case is important |
| 03:39.18 | BulletCatcher | Sending checktokens=Bullet%40Catcher fails the same way. |
| 03:39.38 | JeffM | just for giggles, login to bzbb and take the space out of your name and try it |
| 03:39.43 | JeffM | make sure that is the actual problem |
| 03:39.54 | BulletCatcher | k |
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| 03:47.36 | BulletCatcher | Same problem, even as BulletCatcher in bzbb. |
| 03:47.55 | BulletCatcher | reverts his callsign before someone else steals it |
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| 03:51.03 | pacman87 | a bz_eTeleportEvent would be useful |
| 03:51.20 | JeffM | that's harder to get |
| 03:51.29 | CIA-48 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r18633 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/webadmin/ (commonItems.cpp commonItems.h templates/Main.page): add hooks for network transfer stats when then work again |
| 03:51.36 | JeffM | IIRC it's a state thing on the tank |
| 03:51.39 | JeffM | not a message |
| 03:52.04 | pacman87 | i thought the whole game state was moving to the server |
| 03:52.14 | JeffM | was and is are not the same thing |
| 03:52.54 | pacman87 | plans changed? |
| 03:54.08 | JeffM | no |
| 03:54.29 | JeffM | "was planned" does not mean the same as "currently is" |
| 03:54.35 | JeffM | sure we'd love to move it all over |
| 03:55.01 | JeffM | but just because we want that dosn't mean that it's all instantly done and we do other things that are dependent on that desire |
| 03:55.01 | pacman87 | what i meant was "when that happens, a teleport even would be nice" |
| 03:56.36 | pacman87 | i wouldn't presume to tell anyone here what should be done, merely making a request for whenever that request becomes convenient to fulfill |
| 03:58.17 | CIA-48 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r18634 10/trunk/bzflag/ (include/bzfsAPI.h src/bzfs/bzfsClientMessages.cxx): add bz_eTeleportEvent |
| 03:58.26 | JeffM | I'm sorry, did you say something? ;) |
| 03:58.44 | blast007 | lol |
| 03:59.00 | JeffM | seems it was a network event after all |
| 03:59.15 | JeffM | wana document it for me pacman87 ? |
| 03:59.26 | pacman87 | document == what? |
| 03:59.28 | pacman87 | wiki? |
| 03:59.29 | JeffM | well and probably like test it :) |
| 03:59.30 | JeffM | yeah |
| 03:59.36 | blast007 | can't modify where they teleport though, right? |
| 03:59.41 | pacman87 | it's been a while since i've played with 3.0 |
| 03:59.45 | JeffM | no that's notify only |
| 03:59.53 | JeffM | I didn't see code where we pick the link |
| 04:00.04 | blast007 | that's probably client-side |
| 04:00.07 | JeffM | if we move that over we can do that as bz_eGenerateLinkTarget |
| 04:04.33 | pacman87 | so the event data is bz_TeleportEventData? |
| 04:04.39 | JeffM | no |
| 04:04.50 | JeffM | bz_TeleportEventData_V1 |
| 04:05.00 | JeffM | all the event data in trunk is now versioned |
| 04:05.43 | JeffM | you can find it in the header for it's info |
| 04:05.46 | JeffM | it's prety simple |
| 04:05.57 | pacman87 | ok, i'll check there |
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| 04:13.49 | pacman87 | "to" and "from" are what, precisely? |
| 04:13.58 | JeffM | the teleporter side IDs |
| 04:14.08 | pacman87 | ok, thanks |
| 04:15.07 | pacman87 | http://my.bzflag.org/w/Bz_eTeleportEvent |
| 04:15.30 | JeffM | good job |
| 04:15.31 | pacman87 | and added to the list here: http://my.bzflag.org/w/Event(API) |
| 04:15.39 | JeffM | perfect |
| 04:16.00 | pacman87 | it's a good way for me to say thank you |
| 04:16.43 | JeffM | no, thank you |
| 04:16.49 | JeffM | makes it easier for me :) |
| 04:20.22 | L4m3r | nice webadmin, JeffM |
| 04:20.30 | JeffM | thanks |
| 04:20.35 | JeffM | I still think it looks bad |
| 04:20.39 | L4m3r | heh |
| 04:20.46 | L4m3r | how is it auth'd? |
| 04:21.01 | JeffM | webauth |
| 04:21.20 | L4m3r | ah, so all chat and var changes come from a player? |
| 04:21.45 | JeffM | or the page |
| 04:21.49 | JeffM | you can change vars from the page |
| 04:21.56 | JeffM | there is an "update" button at the botom |
| 04:22.05 | JeffM | and a way to send out a chat message as the server on the chat page |
| 04:22.14 | L4m3r | yeah, that's what I meant |
| 04:22.30 | JeffM | the plugin dosn't show as a player tho |
| 04:22.52 | JeffM | anyone in a global group that has "admin" can use it now |
| 04:22.54 | L4m3r | does it show a player login on the server when someone opens the admin? |
| 04:23.00 | JeffM | no |
| 04:23.10 | L4m3r | so how does the chat work? |
| 04:23.16 | JeffM | API |
| 04:23.22 | JeffM | it's a plugin on the server |
| 04:23.32 | JeffM | so it has full access to all the chat functions |
| 04:23.36 | JeffM | and chat events |
| 04:23.39 | L4m3r | yeah, but does it just show as a server message? |
| 04:23.46 | JeffM | when you send chat yea |
| 04:23.51 | JeffM | you can't send chat as "you" |
| 04:23.51 | L4m3r | hm |
| 04:23.53 | JeffM | since you arn't a player |
| 04:23.58 | L4m3r | yeah, since you're not there :O |
| 04:24.00 | JeffM | so it'll say "SERVER:" as the from |
| 04:24.45 | L4m3r | is the server side player stuff complete enough to make the player join as obs? |
| 04:24.57 | JeffM | probably |
| 04:25.09 | JeffM | the bot sample can spawn and chat |
| 04:25.15 | JeffM | should even be able to move now |
| 04:26.33 | Macrosoft | jeff=dr.frankenstein |
| 04:26.47 | JeffM | hence my new rank ;) |
| 04:27.15 | Macrosoft | checks |
| 04:27.46 | JeffM | L4m3r: I don't think it'll be a perfect replacement for bzadmin, but I think it will be able to do more in a couple of areas, and be easier to use for many things |
| 04:27.57 | Flash | checks |
| 04:28.04 | L4m3r | yeah, definitely |
| 04:28.13 | JeffM | it has loging too |
| 04:28.18 | JeffM | and you can download the logs |
| 04:28.19 | JeffM | with timestamps |
| 04:29.04 | JeffM | try it, you shoudl have access, http://dnd.opencombat.net:5154/webadmin/ |
| 04:29.14 | L4m3r | it'd be killer if you could find a way to link them together, in such a way that one webadmin could lord over multiple servers |
| 04:29.22 | JeffM | bans groups and help don't do much now |
| 04:29.31 | JeffM | L4m3r: just change the port |
| 04:29.48 | L4m3r | I'd have to login again tho, right? |
| 04:29.53 | JeffM | yeah |
| 04:30.00 | JeffM | unless we do a site cookie :) |
| 04:30.03 | JeffM | that'd be simple |
| 04:30.22 | L4m3r | introduces some security considerations, but yeah |
| 04:30.30 | JeffM | yeah you'd only do it if YOU wanted to |
| 04:30.39 | JeffM | make it an optional template mod or something |
| 04:31.37 | L4m3r | maybe mod it to handle auth from a central webserver or something, with a portal page to connect all the bzfs instances |
| 04:31.46 | JeffM | or have a set of templates that just do XML dumps, and make a feature to auto trust from a specific source |
| 04:31.56 | JeffM | yeah same thing |
| 04:32.05 | L4m3r | wouldn't be too hard to maintain two versions of thte plugin |
| 04:32.06 | JeffM | you'd have your portal page just get XML from each server |
| 04:32.14 | JeffM | woudln't even need 2 versions |
| 04:32.17 | JeffM | just different templates |
| 04:32.45 | JeffM | and a setting for an auto trust IP and key |
| 04:33.18 | JeffM | the plugin dosn't care what it sends back for each request, it's all defined in the templates |
| 04:34.02 | L4m3r | hm... |
| 04:34.17 | L4m3r | have you thought of setting up a bzadmin-like interface for bzfs? |
| 04:34.32 | JeffM | so I could make the auth system take a setting where if the request has a var with a specific key, coming from a specific IP, to auto trust it |
| 04:34.45 | JeffM | L4m3r: I'd keep it a seperate app |
| 04:34.51 | L4m3r | between that and a webadmin, we could probably just drop bzadmin though |
| 04:34.57 | JeffM | no reason to make the server more complex |
| 04:35.03 | L4m3r | write it in as an option |
| 04:35.14 | JeffM | it's just more code to wade thru |
| 04:35.20 | L4m3r | heh |
| 04:35.37 | L4m3r | is the bzadmin UI that complicated? |
| 04:35.42 | JeffM | bzfs already makes use of the console, so moding it to NOT do that if there was an interface would not be fun |
| 04:35.51 | JeffM | I just mean the changes needed to make it work |
| 04:36.08 | L4m3r | most of the console output should be calls to the debug message function |
| 04:36.16 | JeffM | yeah |
| 04:36.20 | L4m3r | which could be tweaked |
| 04:36.36 | BulletCatcher | Huh. I just successfully logged in to webadmin at dnd, but my local server still fails. |
| 04:36.41 | L4m3r | debug messages could just be routed to the admin window |
| 04:36.46 | JeffM | but stuff like, you'd want the UI to be in it's own thread, so that the server dosn't stop while it waits for you to type |
| 04:37.02 | L4m3r | how does bzadmin do it? |
| 04:37.06 | JeffM | it waits |
| 04:37.11 | JeffM | cus it ain't doin nothing else ;) |
| 04:37.41 | JeffM | I'd rather have a good abstract client lib and make bzadmin a simple interface to that |
| 04:37.44 | L4m3r | it spits out text in the window though, right? hm, it probably just loops |
| 04:37.46 | JeffM | then we don't have to maintain it |
| 04:38.05 | JeffM | I just don't see many people using that interface on the server |
| 04:38.10 | JeffM | most just want the thing to log |
| 04:38.34 | JeffM | I mean I could MAYBE see doing it if we could expose the console interface to a plugin and make it not be blocking. |
| 04:38.45 | JeffM | then the logic could be wraped up that dll |
| 04:39.10 | JeffM | but since bzfs is a network enabled app, why not use that feature :) |
| 04:39.38 | JeffM | or if this works out, just freaking type in http://localhost:port/webadmin and manage your server |
| 04:39.41 | JeffM | ;) |
| 04:40.16 | L4m3r | oh, and how do you control access to the webadmin? |
| 04:40.22 | JeffM | groups |
| 04:40.26 | L4m3r | ah, ok |
| 04:40.31 | L4m3r | just a new perm? |
| 04:40.35 | JeffM | right now it looks at the groupdb for anyone with both kick and ban |
| 04:40.40 | L4m3r | hm |
| 04:40.44 | JeffM | later I'll make it take em as a paramter |
| 04:40.49 | JeffM | it's just easier for testing |
| 04:40.58 | JeffM | it supports multiple levels of access to |
| 04:41.06 | L4m3r | just have it check a custom perm |
| 04:41.10 | L4m3r | much cleaner ;) |
| 04:41.11 | JeffM | no |
| 04:41.20 | L4m3r | no? why not? |
| 04:41.21 | JeffM | have it check the existing perms for the features |
| 04:41.28 | L4m3r | well, yeah |
| 04:41.34 | JeffM | so that if all you have is kick, all you get is is the kick interface |
| 04:41.53 | JeffM | I want to try and minimise setup on the users side |
| 04:42.06 | JeffM | makes it easier to use |
| 04:42.54 | JeffM | probably should make the action inteface register the perms that they check for, then auto build a list of groups based on that list |
| 04:43.06 | L4m3r | o_O |
| 04:43.22 | L4m3r | that seems like a lot of extra work |
| 04:43.26 | JeffM | not really |
| 04:43.34 | JeffM | it's all in a set of abstract classes |
| 04:43.44 | JeffM | so I just make the base class return a vector of perms |
| 04:43.54 | JeffM | and I already have the code that finds groups based on perms |
| 04:44.10 | JeffM | it's just using hardcoded kick or ban as input now |
| 04:44.23 | L4m3r | yeah, but the API can check perms on the fly anyway for a given player |
| 04:44.31 | JeffM | yeah and it will |
| 04:44.45 | JeffM | well it'll check the groups |
| 04:44.57 | JeffM | since it HAS to use global auth, the perms have to be in a group |
| 04:45.30 | JeffM | it will have a group manager interface so that you can setup group perms on the fly |
| 04:45.48 | L4m3r | nice |
| 04:46.21 | JeffM | but sure, there will probalby be some cases where it's system won't work for some servers desired setup. those few people can mod it |
| 04:46.49 | JeffM | I mean it would be trivial to make it work with a custom permision |
| 04:47.06 | L4m3r | trivial to make it work with any perm, really |
| 04:47.17 | JeffM | yeah |
| 04:47.45 | L4m3r | bleh, this shirt design isn't going to work |
| 04:47.58 | L4m3r | too detailed... will break the 1mm rule :( |
| 04:48.01 | JeffM | there is a base class for "authenticated HTTP virtual dir", you could dervive from that, do whatever auth you wanted, and then just derive webadmin from that instead, and it'd work with your auth system. |
| 04:48.28 | JeffM | it can sit on top of any derivation of that class |
| 04:52.17 | JeffM | hmmm.. I need template metadata |
| 04:52.40 | JeffM | that'd make a lot of things easier |
| 04:52.53 | JeffM | then the pages could define there own view permsions |
| 05:56.56 | Abominable | JeffM ping |
| 05:57.01 | JeffM | ? |
| 05:57.20 | Abominable | My tellys keep getting deleted. |
| 05:57.31 | JeffM | huh? |
| 05:57.32 | Abominable | and the script I ususally run it through, to fix this, is not working. |
| 05:57.50 | Abominable | Do you know a way for fix the teleporter links from getting deleted? |
| 05:57.54 | JeffM | in what? |
| 05:57.58 | Abominable | my map. |
| 05:57.58 | L4m3r | don't use bzedit? |
| 05:57.59 | JeffM | I can not read your mind |
| 05:58.07 | JeffM | yeah WHAT app is deleting them? |
| 05:58.09 | JeffM | bzedit? |
| 05:58.14 | Abominable | I think so. |
| 05:58.19 | JeffM | don't use bzedit |
| 05:58.36 | L4m3r | I don't think any other editors do that |
| 05:58.43 | L4m3r | except a well-trained idiot, maybe :) |
| 05:58.45 | JeffM | yeah it's probably a bug |
| 05:58.46 | Abominable | eh, I make them IN bzedit, when I check the code it seems fine, when I host it, they're gone |
| 05:59.05 | JeffM | well... I can't magicaly 'sense' what is going on |
| 05:59.10 | Swigg | version incopatibility between 2.0.10? |
| 05:59.19 | L4m3r | it's because bzedit has some weird naming convention with teles |
| 05:59.19 | JeffM | bzfs can't write to the world file |
| 05:59.22 | Abominable | Is there another editor that I can use to make them? |
| 05:59.29 | L4m3r | notepad ;) |
| 05:59.32 | JeffM | they may not show, but it should not remove them from the file |
| 05:59.47 | L4m3r | it usually screws up the links, not the teles |
| 05:59.49 | JeffM | yeah bzedit dosn't do links all that great, there are newer better ways to do them |
| 06:00.39 | Abominable | I'm a bit frustrated, sorry if I'm not making much sense :P |
| 06:00.58 | JeffM | is anything actualy being removed from your map file? |
| 06:02.17 | Abominable | No |
| 06:02.29 | JeffM | then are you simply talking about your links not showing up in game? |
| 06:02.33 | Abominable | Yeah |
| 06:02.45 | JeffM | fix them manualy when you are done with the map in a text editor |
| 06:02.47 | JeffM | using names |
| 06:02.52 | JeffM | that works a lot better |
| 06:03.03 | JeffM | bzedit is a VERY old program and had many bugs, some with links |
| 06:03.11 | JeffM | I do not recomend using it for ANY map editing |
| 06:03.28 | L4m3r | it's pretty much dead anyway. No 2.x object support whatsoever |
| 06:03.40 | L4m3r | is bzwb usable at this point? |
| 06:03.52 | JeffM | no |
| 06:03.57 | L4m3r | bummer |
| 06:12.37 | Abominable | Well hand editing didn't work. |
| 06:14.19 | Abominable | gives up for the night |
| 06:14.22 | Abominable | thanks for the help |
| 06:17.14 | blast007 | Abominable: remove the 'name' part of the teleporters |
| 06:18.49 | JeffM | and make sure the links are after the porters they use |
| 06:22.21 | Abominable | blast007, was that suppose to be a joke? :P |
| 06:22.29 | blast007 | no |
| 06:22.39 | JeffM | porters arn't named like other objects |
| 06:22.44 | JeffM | they are special |
| 06:23.20 | Abominable | When I took out the name part, it moved them all the the middle of the map |
| 06:23.37 | JeffM | then you did it wrong |
| 06:23.39 | blast007 | when you edited the name with notepad? |
| 06:23.44 | Abominable | Yeah |
| 06:23.50 | blast007 | uh |
| 06:27.26 | JeffM | will finish imbeded perms tomorow |
| 06:43.47 | AAA_awright | After trying to deal with the packing class/function mess in BZFlag, I made this http://git.bzfx.net/?p=masterbot.git;a=blob;f=src/net/serialization.cpp;h=3348d1b647ffff03542fdf4e5e406adb282ae402;hb=HEAD |
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| 07:46.50 | CIA-48 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r18635 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/plugin_utils/ (plugin_HTTP.cpp plugin_HTTP.h): |
| 07:46.50 | CIA-48 | BZFlag: add template metadata |
| 07:46.50 | CIA-48 | BZFlag: store the groups a user is in with there session |
| 07:46.50 | CIA-48 | BZFlag: add methods to check bz permissions for session users. |
| 07:47.26 | CIA-48 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r18636 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/plugin_utils/ (plugin_utils.cpp plugin_utils.h): function to copy a range out of a string. |
| 07:53.06 | CIA-48 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r18637 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/webadmin/ (14 files in 2 dirs): |
| 07:53.06 | CIA-48 | BZFlag: redo the permission system to use meta data in pages to dynamically show pages only to the users that have correct permissions. |
| 07:53.06 | CIA-48 | BZFlag: disallow actions by users that don't have the proper permission. |
| 07:53.06 | CIA-48 | BZFlag: update all the templates to have permission meta data |
| 07:53.06 | CIA-48 | BZFlag: provide better feedback when permission errors happen. |
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| 08:04.57 | CIA-48 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r18638 10/trunk/bzflag/ (include/bzfsAPI.h src/bzfs/bzfsAPI.cxx): function to list all the standard param names |
| 08:06.13 | CIA-48 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r18639 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/plugin_utils/ (plugin_HTTP.cpp plugin_HTTP.h): |
| 08:06.13 | CIA-48 | BZFlag: allow IF statements in templates to have an optional string parameter [?IF key parameter]. |
| 08:06.13 | CIA-48 | BZFlag: the param is only used on the if. |
| 08:07.39 | CIA-48 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r18640 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/webadmin/ (commonItems.cpp commonItems.h): |
| 08:07.39 | CIA-48 | BZFlag: add generic 'hasPerm' if test that takes a parameter for the permission to test for the current session. |
| 08:07.39 | CIA-48 | BZFlag: This is so templates can change the flow based on permissions. |
| 08:13.54 | CIA-48 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r18641 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/webadmin/ (loops.cpp loops.h): loop to list all the standard permission names; |
| 08:16.04 | CIA-48 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r18642 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/webadmin/loops.cpp: add the actual loop and key names for perms |
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| 15:09.05 | SpazzyMcGee | Is there a way to get the commits |
| 15:09.05 | SpazzyMcGee | *sorry |
| 15:09.16 | SpazzyMcGee | Is there a way to get the commits email in RSS form? |
| 15:09.31 | SpazzyMcGee | via CIA or something... |
| 15:11.30 | SpazzyMcGee | Oh, my bad, there it is. |
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| 15:59.38 | JeffM | how's it going Epyon ? |
| 16:17.02 | spldart | http://pastebin.bzflag.bz/m296ba1bd Any problem I should be concerned with? |
| 16:17.11 | spldart | Meh |
| 16:17.15 | spldart | worded wrong |
| 16:17.39 | spldart | Any problem with the build calls or whateva you call them? |
| 16:17.52 | JeffM | you are building on windows? |
| 16:18.04 | spldart | yepo.. details in pastebin |
| 16:18.10 | JeffM | pick debug NOT debug distro |
| 16:18.11 | spldart | revision and distor |
| 16:18.31 | spldart | woah! |
| 16:18.49 | spldart | I just built last night and it was on distro... reopened today and I'm not sure how that changed |
| 16:18.52 | Winny | anyone know if you can use class="" and style="" in a object? |
| 16:18.54 | spldart | last night was successful |
| 16:20.59 | brad | points Winny towards http://www.w3schools.com/TAGS/tag_object.asp |
| 16:22.47 | blast007 | eww, w3schools.. |
| 16:24.39 | spldart | gah.. just got back 2nd 'my line |
| 16:24.41 | spldart | ' up |
| 16:24.50 | spldart | s /distro/debug |
| 16:25.12 | spldart | I need to stop. To many directions at once at the moment. |
| 16:25.16 | JeffM | heh |
| 16:25.29 | JeffM | you can build distro if you want, you just need glew and curses |
| 16:26.38 | spldart | HrmmMMmm. I may look into that later. Right now I'm getting some power tools pulled together and chasing kids.. My Broh is coming in his new Jeep and he wanted some help putting on a 8 ton winch. |
| 16:26.55 | spldart | 's hair is getting frazzled ;) |
| 16:27.09 | JeffM | that's why you shave it off |
| 16:27.11 | blast007 | chasing your kids WITH power tools? ;) |
| 16:27.20 | spldart | LOL |
| 16:27.28 | spldart | Maybe I would be more effective 'eh? |
| 16:27.32 | blast007 | hehe |
| 16:28.51 | spldart | I assume I can find a glew and curses... place or install them , then link them to vc8? |
| 16:29.14 | spldart | Like SDK and stuff |
| 16:29.25 | JeffM | yeah |
| 16:29.28 | JeffM | glew is easy |
| 16:29.31 | JeffM | curses, less |
| 16:29.32 | spldart | k doki |
| 16:29.34 | spldart | IC |
| 16:30.12 | JeffM | I don't even think I have curses here anymore |
| 16:40.51 | blast007 | I build my own curses |
| 16:41.08 | Winny | blast007: sounds like a bad rap song ;) |
| 16:41.17 | JeffM | heh |
| 16:41.24 | JeffM | I think I have your curses |
| 16:48.50 | spldart | I guess I know where to go to ask which whahuzits curses I want to use ;) |
| 16:52.00 | BulletCatcher | Auth tokens are supposed to be non-negative, right? I just got a "Set-Cookie: SessionID=-259551780" header from webadmin. |
| 16:53.13 | BulletCatcher | I assume that the SessionID cookie is supposed to match the token. |
| 16:54.56 | blast007 | probably not |
| 16:56.32 | blast007 | (regarding matching the token) |
| 16:56.44 | blast007 | it's probably just a random number that the plugin generates |
| 16:56.52 | BulletCatcher | looks at the code |
| 16:57.02 | JeffM | BulletCatcher: that's not your token |
| 16:57.13 | JeffM | that's the web session |
| 16:57.17 | JeffM | and they are just strings |
| 16:57.21 | BulletCatcher | k |
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| 16:58.02 | JeffM | no cookies are used for auth |
| 16:59.10 | BulletCatcher | I still get auth failures to webadmin on localhost. Trying to find out why. |
| 17:00.32 | JeffM | the part you want to look at is the PendingAuthTask in the base auth class |
| 17:00.37 | JeffM | that is where we verify your token |
| 17:01.05 | JeffM | how goes it Saturos ? |
| 17:01.21 | BulletCatcher | The response from bzbb included "TOKBAD: Bullet Catcher", so the problem must be in the request we send. |
| 17:01.29 | JeffM | yes |
| 17:01.38 | JeffM | that is done in "verify token" |
| 17:01.39 | Saturos | practicing for an exam... too few time to play bz :) |
| 17:01.53 | JeffM | how much longer you got in uni? |
| 17:02.12 | Saturos | one year 'til the bachelor |
| 17:02.20 | JeffM | are you going for the masters? |
| 17:02.30 | Saturos | think so |
| 17:02.46 | JeffM | Saturos Master at Art |
| 17:02.58 | Saturos | lots of people say working a year or two is good and then aiming for the master |
| 17:03.05 | JeffM | yeah |
| 17:03.10 | JeffM | I know a number of people that do that |
| 17:03.19 | Saturos | at the moment I'll be a bachelor of science |
| 17:03.23 | blast007 | JeffM: are you sure that you can auth from localhost? |
| 17:03.25 | blast007 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:03.25 | blast007 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:03.25 | blast007 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:03.31 | Saturos | but I thought about doing a master of art on top of that too |
| 17:03.41 | JeffM | blast007: hmm |
| 17:03.42 | JeffM | I do |
| 17:03.43 | blast007 | that's from plugins/plugin_utils/plugin_HTTP.cpp, so it's sending the IP as well |
| 17:03.51 | JeffM | maybe we should not send the IP |
| 17:04.03 | JeffM | BulletCatcher: take out the @ and the IP part |
| 17:04.09 | blast007 | or make the list server ignore certain IPs like that |
| 17:04.15 | BulletCatcher | Will do. |
| 17:04.21 | JeffM | yeah etehr is fine |
| 17:04.38 | *** join/#bzflag JeffM (n=Jeff@unaffiliated/jeffm) |
| 17:05.04 | Saturos | I saw bachii submitted a shirt design |
| 17:05.06 | JeffM | Saturos: yeah in this day in age when there are a lot of bad schools, work experience helps |
| 17:05.14 | JeffM | yeah he/she did |
| 17:05.19 | Saturos | he :) |
| 17:05.23 | Saturos | I was in school with him |
| 17:05.37 | JeffM | cool |
| 17:06.16 | Saturos | actually we wanted to meet yesterday and do the tank-pyra-box idea together |
| 17:06.29 | Saturos | but I was too busy, so he fired up inkscape and started working |
| 17:06.30 | JeffM | ahh |
| 17:06.40 | JeffM | still got 2 hours ;) |
| 17:06.42 | Saturos | its the first time he does artwork |
| 17:07.29 | JeffM | looks like we'll just be having the 5 submisions, unless anyone else bucks up |
| 17:07.42 | Saturos | I think thats it for this contest |
| 17:08.00 | JeffM | I had hoped for more |
| 17:08.11 | Saturos | yeah, I expected some people from outside bz |
| 17:08.16 | Saturos | due to the 100$ |
| 17:11.03 | BulletCatcher | Yay, that works! |
| 17:11.11 | JeffM | cool |
| 17:11.14 | JeffM | lets pull that then |
| 17:11.24 | BulletCatcher | I'll commit the change shortly. |
| 17:11.28 | JeffM | cool |
| 17:11.32 | JeffM | good catch blast007 |
| 17:11.47 | BulletCatcher | ~blast007++ |
| 17:12.29 | blast007 | maybe if I get bored I'll think about modifying the list server ;) |
| 17:13.33 | JeffM | I woudn't |
| 17:13.41 | JeffM | we can keep it on the callers side |
| 17:13.49 | JeffM | if they don't send the IP then that means they don't care if it matches or not |
| 17:14.08 | JeffM | then for secure uses like the game, it will always check it |
| 17:14.26 | JeffM | I'd be worried about someone firing off 127.0.0.1 to get around the IP check on a public game |
| 17:19.45 | CIA-48 | BZFlag: 03bullet_catcher * r18643 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/plugin_utils/plugin_HTTP.cpp: Do not include the request IP address in authentication requests. It fails for localhost. |
| 17:19.59 | BulletCatcher | Yay, CIA. |
| 17:26.34 | JeffM | now the big question BulletCatcher, do you see the logo image on your local server? |
| 17:26.46 | BulletCatcher | Yes! |
| 17:26.50 | JeffM | coo |
| 17:26.57 | JeffM | then I don't know what donny's problem was |
| 17:27.15 | JeffM | I do think we should host the standard images on .bz just so that they don't eat up server bandwith |
| 17:27.23 | BulletCatcher | But I didn't see it last night on your dnd server. |
| 17:27.31 | JeffM | hmm |
| 17:27.43 | JeffM | wonder if I'm not transfering them correctly |
| 17:28.26 | BulletCatcher | When I selected "page info" in Firefox I could see it on the media tab, so I suspect some kind of css problem. |
| 17:28.35 | JeffM | maybe |
| 17:28.58 | donny_baker | i could too, just wasn't displaying, though the blue bar was |
| 17:29.26 | BulletCatcher | I also have cookies disabled (now enabled for localhost), so that may contribute somehow. |
| 17:29.54 | JeffM | all that shuld do is invalidate your session after each page |
| 17:30.16 | JeffM | I store the sesssionID in the cookie so it knows that it dosn't have to reauth you for each page you get |
| 17:32.55 | JeffM | I redid the permsions system, so now you give each page a set of required permisions and it will only show it to users with those perms |
| 17:33.11 | JeffM | so like if someone only has kick/ban those will be the only pages they see |
| 17:33.24 | blast007 | JeffM: well, I'm thinking about security issues with not sending the IP in checktoken |
| 17:33.51 | blast007 | someone that uses weblogin could steal a token of a user and not check it, and then give that to webadmin |
| 17:34.01 | blast007 | with no IP check, it would validate |
| 17:34.12 | JeffM | well, I can go an make it an option |
| 17:34.54 | JeffM | have webadmin check by default but provide a way for the sever owner to turn it off |
| 17:34.58 | blast007 | if we simply mod the list server to not reject tokens if the IP is a private address, then it would have less of an effect on security (it would be something on your computer or your LAN) |
| 17:35.13 | JeffM | ok |
| 17:35.14 | blast007 | could also make webadmin not send the IP if it's a private address |
| 17:35.51 | JeffM | 10.x, 192.168.x, and 127.0.0.1 ? |
| 17:36.07 | blast007 | and 172.16.x.x to 172.31.x.x |
| 17:36.20 | blast007 | technically 127.*.*.* are all local host |
| 17:36.24 | JeffM | k |
| 17:36.28 | blast007 | but just doing the one is probably enough |
| 17:36.53 | BulletCatcher | As a matter of general policy, do we want the list server to provide authentication service to private IP space? Before webadmin it seems the answer was "no". |
| 17:37.20 | JeffM | it would only be during the server verify right? |
| 17:37.29 | JeffM | as all tokens that are sent out come from external |
| 17:37.42 | JeffM | so probably be ok to have the list filter it |
| 17:37.57 | JeffM | since the only people who could inject it would be the authenticators |
| 17:38.47 | JeffM | thinks it's time to break up plugin_HTTP.cpp |
| 17:45.14 | JeffM | does anyone use the 172 stuff? |
| 17:45.32 | JeffM | why would you not just use the 10. range |
| 17:46.11 | BulletCatcher | You never know why people will pick particluar private ranges. |
| 17:46.49 | blast007 | JeffM: I use all three at work ;) |
| 17:46.54 | CIA-48 | BZFlag: 03bullet_catcher * r18644 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/webadmin/commonItems.cpp: Fix typos so purple team wins and losses will be displayed. |
| 17:46.58 | JeffM | hah |
| 17:47.10 | blast007 | two networks and a virtual PC virtual network |
| 17:48.39 | CIA-48 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r18645 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/plugin_utils/plugin_HTTP.cpp: check the IP of the token user, if it looks like a local or lan IP then don't send the IP. |
| 17:48.40 | JeffM | BulletCatcher: see if that commit still works for you |
| 17:48.51 | BulletCatcher | k |
| 17:50.29 | JeffM | hmm I think I'm adding groups multiple times |
| 17:50.51 | BulletCatcher | r18645 still works |
| 17:50.57 | JeffM | cool |
| 17:51.01 | JeffM | I had it check the Ip ranges |
| 17:53.06 | BulletCatcher | Looks good. |
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| 18:23.37 | CIA-48 | BZFlag: 03bullet_catcher * r18646 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/webadmin/loops.cpp: Add a space to the right of the callsign in join/part log messages. |
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| 18:32.40 | CIA-48 | BZFlag: 03bullet_catcher * r18647 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/webadmin/templates/Main.page: |
| 18:32.40 | CIA-48 | BZFlag: Display "Team Scores" as two words. |
| 18:32.40 | CIA-48 | BZFlag: Align scores to the right of table columns. |
| 18:33.45 | JeffM | yay, less template suck |
| 18:35.48 | BulletCatcher | The rest of webadmin seems to be working well, so those details are worth fixing now. |
| 18:35.59 | Winny | JeffM: is the webadmin template going to be redone eventually? |
| 18:36.12 | JeffM | Winny: sure why not |
| 18:36.16 | CIA-48 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r18648 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/plugin_utils/plugin_HTTP.cpp: when adding groups by perm, only add groups that are not in the group list already. |
| 18:36.22 | JeffM | I just made it something that looked "ok" |
| 18:36.29 | JeffM | if you want to change it PLEASE feel free |
| 18:36.41 | JeffM | you saw how it used to look right? |
| 18:36.49 | JeffM | it used h1, h2 and h3 |
| 18:37.10 | Winny | I havent looked at it yet |
| 18:37.18 | JeffM | it was horrible |
| 18:37.22 | BulletCatcher | It shouldn't be too hard to support multiple template systems if we want. |
| 18:37.29 | blast007 | using h1, h2, etc isn't a bad thing.. |
| 18:37.38 | JeffM | as the only formating blast007 ? |
| 18:37.40 | blast007 | you can apply CSS to those elements |
| 18:37.49 | blast007 | heh.. |
| 18:37.52 | Winny | hehe |
| 18:38.01 | JeffM | yeah he didn't even have a css |
| 18:38.15 | blast007 | "1995 called. They want their HTML back." |
| 18:38.20 | BulletCatcher | lol |
| 18:38.23 | JeffM | exactly |
| 18:38.44 | BulletCatcher | is a HTML 1.0 kind of guy |
| 18:44.50 | CIA-48 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r18649 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/plugin_utils/ (plugin_HTTP.cpp plugin_HTTP.h): let loops have a parameter too like IF tests. |
| 18:46.10 | CIA-48 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r18650 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/webadmin/commonItems.cpp: use the correct parameter name for templates. |
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| 18:52.49 | CIA-48 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r18651 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/webadmin/ (loops.cpp loops.h templates/Main.page): |
| 18:52.49 | CIA-48 | BZFlag: have the chat loop look for a chat limit in the loop prams. |
| 18:52.49 | CIA-48 | BZFlag: have the main page only show the last 5 chats using the prams. |
| 18:57.18 | CIA-48 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r18652 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/webadmin/templates/Chat.page: give the chat page, options to display 20, 50, or all chats |
| 19:05.20 | JeffM | contest == over :) |
| 19:05.41 | *** topic/#bzflag by JeffM -> Topic for #bzflag is: http://cia.vc/stats/project/BZFlag || http://my.BZFlag.org/w/Getting_Help || logs at http://ibot.rikers.org/%23bzflag/ || http://ohloh.net/projects/189 || 2.0.12 is the latest linux release, 2.0.10 for others || The shirt logo contest is over, may the best design win. |
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| 19:19.52 | CIA-48 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r18654 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/webadmin/ (loops.cpp loops.h templates/Chat.page): |
| 19:19.52 | CIA-48 | BZFlag: add ChatLimit if test to check if the last loop run had a specific limit |
| 19:19.52 | CIA-48 | BZFlag: add 5/20/50/and all limits on the chat page, with an indicator for what one is active. |
| 19:20.55 | JeffM | wow BulletCatcher cia really does not like you, does it? |
| 19:21.16 | BulletCatcher | Yeah. :-( |
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| 19:28.21 | JeffM | the next big thing is to hook up more events for loging I think |
| 19:28.29 | JeffM | then it'll be more useful |
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| 19:56.28 | SpazzyMcGee | awww, I'm away on the day the t-shirt design winner is announced |
| 19:56.45 | *** join/#bzflag Skeeve (n=Skeeve@p508A7AA6.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 19:57.01 | Skeeve | Is someone here who can admin WNC? |
| 19:57.16 | Skeeve | Flabergaster has some stupid jitter-cheat |
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| 19:59.44 | JeffM | SpazzyMcGee: I'm not sure why brlcad moved the date so far out, I have a feeling we'll announce before then |
| 20:00.09 | SpazzyMcGee | oh, right |
| 20:02.42 | AAA_awright | After trying to deal with the packing class/function/singleton mess in BZFlag, I made this http://git.bzfx.net/?p=masterbot.git;a=blob;f=src/net/serialization.cpp;h=3348d1b647ffff03542fdf4e5e406adb282ae402;hb=HEAD |
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| 20:18.26 | CIA-48 | BZFlag: 03blast007 * r18655 10/trunk/db/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Implement the new ban system. Now supports IP bans (exact, CIDR, and wildcard) and hostname bans (exact and wildcard). |
| 20:23.03 | brlcad | just shifted the schedule one week |
| 20:23.06 | Macrosoft | whats CIDR? |
| 20:23.16 | brlcad | ~blast007++ |
| 20:24.15 | blast007 | Macrosoft: basically a short notation of a subnet mask |
| 20:24.39 | blast007 | so 192.168.0.0/24 (24 being the CIDR) blocks 192.168.0.0 to 192.168.0.255 |
| 20:25.08 | blast007 | 32 bits in an IPv4 address, first 24 set in stone, the rest ranging from all 0's to all 1's |
| 20:25.30 | Macrosoft | oh, htanks |
| 20:25.34 | Macrosoft | *thanks |
| 20:25.45 | blast007 | makes it easy to ban ISPs ;) |
| 20:26.06 | blast007 | next step is to enable banning just certain actions, like ADD'ing a server |
| 20:26.23 | Macrosoft | mine jumps subnets every time i connect |
| 20:26.55 | blast007 | Macrosoft: hostname bans work too :) |
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| 20:59.05 | blast007 | meh, seems like every other commit I make gets ignored by CIA :/ |
| 20:59.57 | blast007 | last one was a change to /trunk/db/bzfls.php that makes the banned message use an "ERROR: " prefix so that it gets displayed in red in the chat box of the client |
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| 21:10.12 | Flash | CIA-48: ping |
| 21:10.18 | Flash | hugs CIA-48 |
| 21:10.19 | CIA-48 | hugs Flash |
| 21:10.36 | blast007 | the bot is fine |
| 21:10.40 | blast007 | it's not getting to the site |
| 21:16.36 | BulletCatcher | CIA has missed many of my recent commits, too. It likes JeffM, though. |
| 21:17.35 | Macrosoft | BulletCatcher: it knows better than to cross a mad scientist :p |
| 21:17.47 | BulletCatcher | lol |
| 21:18.29 | blast007 | it should also know not to cross an insane cheese stealer! |
| 21:18.32 | blast007 | ~blast007 |
| 21:18.32 | ibot | i heard blast007 is very wacky, or a cheese-stealer |
| 21:20.44 | BulletCatcher | "Cheese Stealers" would be a good name for a rock band. |
| 21:21.34 | blast007 | "We're in your house, stealin' your cheese! You asked us to stop, but you didn't say 'please!'" |
| 21:21.42 | Winny | -_- |
| 21:21.47 | BulletCatcher | rotfl |
| 21:21.51 | tannerld | oh dear |
| 21:21.54 | Winny | ~lart blast007 |
| 21:21.54 | ibot | nabs the moon and broadsides blast007 with the sea of tranquility |
| 21:22.08 | blast007 | rocks out |
| 21:27.17 | Macrosoft | ever seen how they do the karaoke subtitles in anime? |
| 21:28.08 | Macrosoft | it has the lyrics in japanese at the top and english at the bottom. |
| 21:28.32 | Macrosoft | this one is the best http://99.204.176.170/notto.jpg |
| 21:28.39 | Winny | ooh, and do they have that cool ball bouncing along the words? |
| 21:28.59 | Macrosoft | Winny: see link ^ |
| 21:29.08 | Winny | I would if it opened |
| 21:29.16 | Macrosoft | aww |
| 21:53.36 | Winny | this is a long shot, but does anyone in here work for google? |
| 21:53.50 | tannerld | Not in this life. |
| 21:54.20 | blast007 | Actually, I don't work for Google. But I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night! |
| 21:54.37 | tannerld | lol |
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| 22:01.50 | CIA-48 | BZFlag: 03jwmelto * r18657 10/trunk/bzflag/src/platform/MacOSX/SDLMain.m: silence a compiler warning |
| 22:02.23 | Flash | guess CIA-48 likes me |
| 22:02.31 | JeffM | heh |
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| 22:33.40 | Macrosoft | Winny: fixed link http://68.26.85.71:35000/notto.jpg |
| 22:34.27 | CIA-48 | BZFlag: 03bullet_catcher * r18658 10/trunk/bzflag/src/platform/MacOSX/MacWindow.cxx: Comment out unused variable to quell compiler warning. |
| 22:34.31 | BulletCatcher | One good fix for the Mac deserves another. |
| 22:34.39 | JeffM | Macrosoft: please don't post links like that here |
| 22:34.52 | Macrosoft | JeffM: ok |
| 22:35.08 | JeffM | our language rules apply to links too |
| 22:35.13 | JeffM | /msg is your friend |
| 22:35.14 | Flash | BulletCatcher: which version? I didn't have a warning there |
| 22:35.25 | BulletCatcher | 10.4, without SDL. |
| 22:35.37 | Flash | I didn't know without SDL was an option |
| 22:35.47 | JeffM | it was |
| 22:35.49 | BulletCatcher | It works except for a segfault at exit. |
| 22:35.53 | JeffM | it's not really maintained |
| 22:36.05 | JeffM | does it have any advantage? |
| 22:36.43 | BulletCatcher | My guess is no, except for simply not requiring SDL to compile. |
| 22:47.12 | Flash | is logDebugMessage an interface that is common between the client and the server? |
| 22:48.11 | JeffM | I think so |
| 22:48.38 | BulletCatcher | It looks like it. bzflag.cxx includes bzfio.h |
| 22:49.28 | BulletCatcher | playing.cxx already calls logDebugMessage() many times. |
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| 23:04.29 | CIA-48 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r18659 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/webadmin/ (Makefile.am logs.cpp loops.cpp loops.h webadmin.vcproj): |
| 23:04.29 | CIA-48 | BZFlag: move logs int it's own file, as it was getting too big. |
| 23:04.29 | CIA-48 | BZFlag: log bans and list server updates. |
| 23:26.27 | CIA-48 | BZFlag: 03jwmelto * r18660 10/branches/v2_99_net_branch/ (5 files in 4 dirs): Remove gratuitous typedef; use the type we already have |
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| 23:56.48 | bz84 | hi at all. i've started new map but there are no player ;( thereis a way to call person? |
| 23:57.00 | bz84 | i must wait? |
| 23:57.06 | a_meteorite | yes |
| 23:57.09 | bz84 | ;( |
| 23:57.11 | Flash | use a phone |
| 23:57.12 | bz84 | ok |
| 23:57.14 | bz84 | thanks |
| 23:57.15 | Flash | phone a friend |
| 23:57.19 | bz84 | ;) |
| 23:57.29 | bz84 | in italy now i nigth |
| 23:57.33 | a_meteorite | first you must convert all your friends to bzflag |
| 23:57.45 | bz84 | they will shot me ...with a real gun! |
| 23:57.58 | Flash | gotta love Italians |
| 23:58.28 | bz84 | i've a server with bzflag and i'm converting friends to bzflag |
| 23:58.38 | bz84 | few days ago they don't know this game |
| 23:58.46 | bz84 | but now..... they love it ;) |
| 23:59.08 | bz84 | we work on housing company |
| 23:59.15 | bz84 | so servers are not a problem |
| 23:59.37 | a_meteorite | it would be for the majority of american players :) |
