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| 00:06.56 | JeffM | not your fualt :) |
| 00:07.24 | SportChick | JeffM: true but :) |
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| 01:44.48 | curtmack | I'm getting an X error when I try to run bzflag: http://pastebin.com/mfcbc8bf |
| 01:44.54 | curtmack | Debian/lenny |
| 01:45.09 | curtmack | bzflag 2.0.12 |
| 01:49.45 | spldart | goes to check but notes he's having problems with getting X and rendering setup with lenny still |
| 01:50.53 | curtmack | also tried to run it in windowed mode. It didn't do much, and pretty much completely took over my computer |
| 01:51.45 | blast007 | what video driver are you using? |
| 01:52.27 | curtmack | fglrx |
| 01:52.52 | spldart | Nogo from me, fglrx is still alive? |
| 01:53.13 | curtmack | yeah, it is... |
| 01:53.26 | spldart | I'm still having problems with lenny not setting up xorg correctly by default |
| 01:53.36 | spldart | ... so manual hack I go |
| 01:53.38 | TD-Linux | wasn't there that DRI nonfree issue? |
| 01:53.54 | TD-Linux | though slashdot says that's taken care of today |
| 01:53.58 | curtmack | yeah, fglrx isn't free software |
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| 02:00.03 | TD-Linux | no, the DRI X code |
| 02:00.11 | TD-Linux | and there was talk of removing all 3D support for a bit |
| 02:01.08 | Gnurdux | why? |
| 02:04.00 | TD-Linux | it was under a nonfree license |
| 02:04.04 | TD-Linux | at least, most of the code was |
| 02:04.12 | TD-Linux | which had been ignored for a long time |
| 02:05.02 | spldart | was worried of that |
| 02:13.02 | blast007 | curtmack: so, running this doesn't work? bzflag -window -geometry 640x480 |
| 03:05.45 | curtmack | blast007: It brings up a screen that looks like some kind of chat screen... but no menu |
| 03:05.59 | curtmack | also says "There does not appear to be any key bound to enter the game" on the console |
| 03:06.05 | blast007 | hmm, fun |
| 03:06.49 | blast007 | do you have a ~/.bzf/ directory? If so, try renaming that to something else, and then running the above command again |
| 03:07.36 | curtmack | that worked |
| 03:14.16 | blast007 | k |
| 03:14.23 | blast007 | musta been a messed up config :) |
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| 03:28.40 | curtmack | question, why is it always showing the scores? |
| 03:29.29 | curtmack | it kinda clutters the screen |
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| 03:29.29 | temp_dist | curtmack: press S |
| 03:29.29 | temp_dist | then read the help file in the game |
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| 04:51.19 | Flash | ~seen kingofcamelot |
| 04:51.21 | ibot | kingofcamelot <n=davidsan@ip68-6-42-246.sb.sd.cox.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 11d 19h 40m 45s ago, saying: 'Flash: ping'. |
| 04:51.37 | Flash | and he hasn't been back since? |
| 04:51.49 | a_meteorite | call the cops! file a missing persons! |
| 04:53.12 | Flash | right... me: I'd like to file a missing persons report. cops: what does he look like? me: ..... |
| 04:53.34 | a_meteorite | "He wears a robe..." |
| 04:53.40 | a_meteorite | "And he likes to say he's the king of camelot..." |
| 04:53.56 | a_meteorite | "oh, in that case sir, I think he's in the local aslym :(" |
| 04:57.52 | BulletCatcher | KoC was here a day or two ago, but did not say anything. |
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| 07:19.30 | Flash | I just had a crash in 2.0.12 ... it NEVER crashes |
| 07:19.31 | Flash | Sep 20 00:44:22 IntelliMac-3 /Users/jwmelto/bzflag_2.0/bzflag/build/Development/BZFlag.app/Contents/MacOS/BZFlag[52314]: CPSGetCurrentProcess(): This call is deprecated and should not be called anymore. |
| 07:19.35 | Flash | Sep 20 00:44:22 IntelliMac-3 /Users/jwmelto/bzflag_2.0/bzflag/build/Development/BZFlag.app/Contents/MacOS/BZFlag[52314]: CPSSetForegroundOperationState(): This call is deprecated and should not be called anymore. |
| 07:20.00 | Flash | (not why it crashed, but that doesn't look good) |
| 07:36.02 | Constitution | if I were to guess I'd say that's in SDL code, but I might be wrong |
| 07:50.20 | Flash | well, it isn't our codebase, that's true |
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| 13:17.55 | bz46 | ~bzfquery kylereger.game-host.org |
| 13:18.08 | bz46 | ~bzfquery kylereger.game-host.org:5154 |
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| 13:27.16 | Skeeve | are you bz56? |
| 13:29.06 | bz46 | no |
| 13:29.18 | bz46 | i do need help through |
| 13:30.31 | Skeeve | ;-) But your spelling mistakes are the same as thos of bz56 ;-) |
| 13:31.49 | short_circuit | Are you able to connect with the actual IP? #.#.#.# |
| 13:32.40 | bz46 | no |
| 13:36.44 | short_circuit | Is this some... |
| 13:36.44 | short_circuit | oh |
| 13:36.46 | short_circuit | umm |
| 13:36.47 | short_circuit | yeah |
| 13:43.40 | Skeeve | shorciruit: I hink bz46 is the same person as bz who got more than 1.5 hours network support by jeffm yesterday night (night = European) |
| 13:49.53 | blast007 | Skeeve: their IP is the same |
| 13:50.19 | short_circuit | Oh.. n/m then |
| 13:53.39 | Skeeve | I thought so, blast007 but wasn't sure |
| 14:11.01 | swigg | Ping: blast007 |
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| 15:47.10 | Skeeve | swig blast007 ping pong pang |
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| 16:37.49 | whodaman- | okay |
| 16:38.16 | whodaman- | So it seems that updating to 10.5.5 on an intel macbook breaks BZFlag |
| 16:38.27 | whodaman- | I've tried it on 2 macbooks now with the same result |
| 16:38.32 | temp_dist | that wasn't my experience |
| 16:38.37 | whodaman- | really? |
| 16:38.40 | temp_dist | (not on a macbook tho) |
| 16:38.47 | whodaman- | well, my point |
| 16:39.11 | whodaman- | 1FPS..constant color changes |
| 16:39.27 | whodaman- | Radar does not work properly (shows circles instead of blocks) |
| 16:39.37 | whodaman- | So, might wanna wait for 10.5.6 or something |
| 16:40.12 | blast007 | should got a PC |
| 16:40.35 | temp_dist | if 10.5.5 broke something in the MBP video driver, maybe you can revert just that element |
| 16:40.38 | blast007 | shoulda* |
| 16:40.38 | whodaman- | I guess they've updated the graphic drivers or someting |
| 16:40.50 | whodaman- | blast007, go away ;) |
| 16:41.15 | whodaman- | temp_dist, i just went back to 10.5.4 ..grml |
| 16:41.33 | temp_dist | that works too |
| 16:41.35 | Winny | lemme try |
| 16:41.37 | Winny | one sec |
| 16:42.21 | Winny | yep |
| 16:42.35 | whodaman- | b0rked, Winny ? |
| 16:42.39 | Winny | indeed |
| 16:42.42 | whodaman- | :E |
| 16:42.50 | blast007 | apple ftl |
| 16:43.01 | whodaman- | nigga plz |
| 16:43.08 | Winny | whodaman-: language... |
| 16:43.08 | blast007 | do other GL games work? |
| 16:43.13 | blast007 | whodaman-: .. |
| 16:43.23 | whodaman- | oh, this is #bzflag |
| 16:43.25 | whodaman- | right, sorry |
| 16:43.26 | Winny | heh... |
| 16:43.34 | whodaman- | >.> |
| 16:43.38 | whodaman- | blast007, yeah |
| 16:43.41 | whodaman- | urbanterror..lol |
| 16:43.44 | Winny | blast007: the menus seem to render normally |
| 16:43.50 | whodaman- | yea, Winny |
| 16:43.51 | Winny | just when you get into the game it drops |
| 16:43.58 | blast007 | odd |
| 16:44.02 | Winny | ehe |
| 16:44.07 | Winny | tries something |
| 16:44.59 | Winny | not always 1 FPS, just extrmely low |
| 16:45.05 | Winny | for example I'm getting 3 on HiX |
| 16:45.06 | whodaman- | ok, 3FPS |
| 16:45.10 | whodaman- | same difference really |
| 16:45.19 | Winny | ni'll try toggling the settings |
| 16:45.32 | whodaman- | n curse! |
| 16:46.07 | Winny | seems to be related to smoothing |
| 16:46.08 | whodaman- | doubt that'll help, Winny. As I'm sure we both play with different settings. And i've also tried just resetting the config |
| 16:46.14 | Winny | turn it off and it works, whodaman- |
| 16:46.30 | whodaman- | wow |
| 16:46.35 | whodaman- | that woulda saved me 3 hours |
| 16:46.41 | blast007 | nice |
| 16:46.52 | Winny | guess it's a new thing in the GMA drivers |
| 16:46.54 | whodaman- | Winny, everythings fine? |
| 16:47.07 | Winny | the FPS is still a bit low |
| 16:47.15 | Winny | but that increass it by a factor of 10 |
| 16:47.15 | whodaman- | <30? |
| 16:47.27 | whodaman- | still unplayable |
| 16:47.37 | Winny | getting about 35 |
| 16:47.45 | whodaman- | ah |
| 16:47.53 | whodaman- | hm, that woulda actually worked for me |
| 16:48.38 | Winny | goes to find the 10.5.5 release notes |
| 16:48.58 | whodaman- | Winny, http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2405 |
| 16:49.22 | Winny | I still get 200+ FPS on my MP |
| 16:49.28 | Winny | so seems like a GMA driver update issue |
| 16:49.33 | whodaman- | Same |
| 16:49.42 | Winny | anyone have a mini or a older iMac with a GMA chip? |
| 16:49.54 | whodaman- | a_meteorite does IIRC |
| 16:50.25 | blast007 | I have one! wait... one that works? nvm! |
| 16:50.45 | blast007 | actually mine was the ati chip |
| 16:50.55 | Winny | "Includes extensive graphics enhancements." |
| 16:50.56 | Winny | whee |
| 16:51.04 | blast007 | hehe |
| 16:51.31 | blast007 | enhanced slow motion gaming effects |
| 16:51.48 | whodaman- | blast007, UT is faster |
| 16:56.09 | whodaman- | woot |
| 16:56.13 | whodaman- | some more updates |
| 16:56.14 | whodaman- | bbl |
| 16:57.44 | Winny | I wish apple would say more then "Includes extensive graphics enhancements."... heh |
| 17:00.43 | JeffM | Winny: all that means is "we got the drivers from last year and gave them to you" |
| 17:00.49 | Winny | ah |
| 17:00.53 | Winny | ;) |
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| 17:51.47 | JeffM | tries not to just ripp webadmin appart and rewrite it |
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| 18:46.31 | a_meteorite | Winny: I do |
| 18:47.27 | a_meteorite | BZFlag works fine under 10.5.5, great even... Intel Mini with GMA 950 |
| 18:51.12 | Winny | hmm |
| 18:51.41 | Winny | must be related to the GMA X3100 then |
| 18:52.07 | a_meteorite | GMA X3100 drivers SUCKS |
| 18:52.36 | a_meteorite | Technically it is far superior, but it's performance is way less than GMA 950... dunno what is up with Apple |
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| 19:22.10 | Skeeve | pastebin |
| 19:22.15 | Skeeve | ~pastebin |
| 19:22.19 | ibot | [~pastebin] A "pastebin" is a web-based service where you can paste anything over 3 lines without flooding the channel. Here are links to a few : http://www.pastebin.com , http://pastebin.ca , http://channels.debian.net/paste , http://paste.lisp.org , http://www.rafb.net/paste |
| 19:23.03 | Skeeve | Can someone please explain the meaning to me? http://rafb.net/p/GsX0Fv79.html |
| 19:23.22 | Skeeve | I'm not a C++ programmer so the syntax is a bit unclear |
| 19:23.47 | Skeeve | what is declared/defined there? |
| 19:24.04 | JeffM | that is initalising the memeber variables of the HUDRenderer class during the construction of the class |
| 19:24.09 | Skeeve | What does the colon, followed by all the function call(?) mean |
| 19:24.15 | Skeeve | Ah! |
| 19:24.18 | JeffM | so roaming is a bool |
| 19:24.21 | JeffM | that is part of the class |
| 19:24.31 | Skeeve | so altitude(.0f) sets the meber altitude to zero |
| 19:24.35 | JeffM | when the class is constructed, it initalises it to false |
| 19:24.37 | JeffM | yes |
| 19:24.43 | Skeeve | Thanks jeff! |
| 19:24.46 | JeffM | sure |
| 19:29.08 | Flash | Winny: what is GMA? |
| 19:30.13 | Skeeve | if I run "make" (normally i ran xcodebuild) where will the executable be so that I can copy it over to the .app |
| 19:30.26 | JeffM | Flash: onboard graphics |
| 19:30.49 | Skeeve | strange⦠I made changes to HUDrenderer and "make" doesn't compile anything |
| 19:30.52 | JeffM | "graphics memory arch" or something like that. it's the name intel gives to all there chipsets that do crapy crapy video as well |
| 19:31.09 | Flash | so which macbook has that? |
| 19:31.24 | JeffM | Skeeve: make sure you run it for the root, and it'll put it in /src/bzflag |
| 19:31.32 | JeffM | Flash: the low end ones have GMA IIRC |
| 19:31.44 | JeffM | the ones that don't have discreete graphics chips |
| 19:32.15 | Flash | ok... so *presumably* I have nothing to worry about .... :-\ |
| 19:32.17 | Skeeve | I ran it in the root but no compile outputs from make |
| 19:33.48 | Skeeve | and src/bzflag/bzflag is still 5hours old |
| 19:38.54 | Skeeve | Hm⦠Must have something to do with my editor. If I "touch" the files make seems to do what it should |
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| 19:57.52 | JeffM | Skeeve: your editor isn't changing the last modified date |
| 19:57.55 | JeffM | what are you using? |
| 19:58.28 | TD-Linux | clearly he is using butterflies |
| 19:58.41 | TD-Linux | http://xkcd.com/378/ |
| 19:59.53 | JeffM | riiigggghhhhtttttt. |
| 20:01.52 | Skeeve | jEdit |
| 20:02.55 | Skeeve | Currently I don't understand why I don't gt line on the screen. I copied a bit of code of "drw altitude" but see no line drawn |
| 20:03.42 | Skeeve | http://rafb.net/p/cp8E4I15.html |
| 20:04.30 | JeffM | if you moved it, it coudl be outside the scissor for the hudbox |
| 20:05.06 | Skeeve | Ah!Thanks or the hint |
| 20:05.26 | Skeeve | So there are several layers" if scissors? |
| 20:06.26 | JeffM | the scissor limits drawng to a specific area |
| 20:06.56 | JeffM | you probaby want to draw yours more like how the team score is drawn |
| 20:07.37 | Skeeve | I wanted to dw t let of the HUD Box. |
| 20:07.54 | JeffM | is your keyboard broken/ |
| 20:07.58 | Skeeve | On the right side is the altitude strip. Onthe left side I want to dra a speed ndicator |
| 20:08.17 | JeffM | you may need to make the scissor area larger then |
| 20:08.31 | Skeeve | Seems the battery is low.. one moment |
| 20:09.29 | Skeeve | batteries changed |
| 20:09.57 | Skeeve | Does a scissor area set a new origin? |
| 20:10.12 | Skeeve | so is the lower left corner the new (0,0)? |
| 20:10.41 | JeffM | I don't recall |
| 20:10.44 | JeffM | I don't like using them |
| 20:10.53 | JeffM | I prefer using the depth buffer |
| 20:12.12 | Skeeve | I programm by copying ;-) I don't know anything about depth buffers |
| 20:12.29 | JeffM | then perhaps it is time to actualy learn something ;) |
| 20:12.57 | JeffM | goes to get a knee brace |
| 20:13.38 | Flash | gives JeffM duct tape |
| 20:14.03 | JeffM | pop your kneecap out, and then put it back, then you tell me if ductape is good enough? |
| 20:14.41 | Flash | duct tape is like The Force... it has a dark side, a light side, and it holds the universe together |
| 20:15.13 | JeffM | take a hammer to your knee then lets see what you say |
| 20:15.21 | JeffM | I need one with the metal in the side |
| 20:15.41 | Flash | that's ok, JeffM. I've had 3 hip replacements. I'm good |
| 20:15.49 | JeffM | did you use tape? |
| 20:15.50 | spldart | Really/. |
| 20:15.50 | JeffM | ;) |
| 20:15.55 | spldart | '? |
| 20:15.56 | Flash | no, staples! |
| 20:16.03 | spldart | Wife had one too hehe |
| 20:16.15 | JeffM | bionics FTW! |
| 20:16.20 | spldart | w0rd |
| 20:19.41 | Skeeve | What I don't understand in http://rafb.net/p/cp8E4I15.html : in line 12 the scissor box is set to ox + something , oy + something. |
| 20:20.03 | Skeeve | When the vertecis are defined, no ox nor oy is there |
| 20:25.50 | Skeeve | ARGH! |
| 20:26.01 | Skeeve | STUPID STUPID STUPID ME! |
| 20:26.28 | Skeeve | I'm working in trunk and compiling 2.0.13 |
| 20:26.34 | Skeeve | STUPID STUPID STUPID ME! |
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| 20:27.54 | Winny | Flash: all the newest macbooks have GMAX3100's |
| 20:27.58 | Winny | they're intel |
| 20:28.03 | Winny | 's graphics chips |
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| 20:43.28 | BulletCatcher | Flash has 3 hips? ! :-) |
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| 20:44.21 | Skeeve | Hi BulletCatcher! Anything new about freetype? |
| 20:44.38 | BulletCatcher | Not yet. Maybe in a few hours. |
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| 20:45.54 | Skeeve | okay |
| 20:45.57 | Skeeve | thx |
| 21:04.14 | Skeeve | Jeffm? mYou told me yesterday to use myTank->getVelocity() to find the current speed. If I see it correct, this will give me an array of 4 floats. How are they to be ineterpreted? |
| 21:04.33 | Skeeve | Is it documented(cough) somewhere? |
| 21:04.52 | Skeeve | 3 floats |
| 21:05.48 | Constitution | Skeeve: probably gives you the tank's velocity in 3 dimensions |
| 21:06.45 | Constitution | if you just want the raw speed, you can take the x and y and do some trig on them to convert them to a linear spead |
| 21:07.20 | Skeeve | "Probably" is not what I want to read in an answer ;-) |
| 21:08.24 | Constitution | probably is as much as I can give you without actually looking at the code |
| 21:09.06 | Constitution | wanna point me to the code you're looking at? |
| 21:10.52 | Skeeve | sure. |
| 21:12.08 | Skeeve | which version do you have? I'm in 2.0.13 |
| 21:13.02 | Constitution | ok |
| 21:13.23 | Constitution | I have that :) |
| 21:13.29 | Skeeve | in Player.h you'll find inline const float*Player::getVelocity() const |
| 21:13.48 | Constitution | line? |
| 21:14.01 | Skeeve | thist returns the state.velocity in line 409 |
| 21:14.12 | Constitution | ok hang on |
| 21:17.50 | Constitution | okay, so that returns a float pointer |
| 21:19.24 | Skeeve | to state.velocity being a vloat[3] |
| 21:19.29 | Skeeve | float |
| 21:19.42 | Constitution | okay... yeah was tring to track that down |
| 21:19.46 | Constitution | so yeah you would be right |
| 21:22.30 | Constitution | Skeeve: what are you trying to do exactly? |
| 21:23.00 | Skeeve | finding out how fast my tank is and giving a visual indicator in th HUD |
| 21:24.04 | Constitution | ah ok |
| 21:37.16 | Flash | Winny: so because I have a GeForce 8600M GT, I'm not the newest? :-) |
| 21:37.48 | Flash | BulletCatcher: I am 3x more hip than you |
| 21:38.24 | BulletCatcher | Can't argue with that. :-) |
| 21:39.49 | Skeeve | you seem to be right, Constitution |
| 21:40.17 | Skeeve | velocity[0] and [1] seem to give the speed in x and y direction |
| 21:41.07 | Skeeve | But I don't know anything about the units |
| 21:41.30 | Skeeve | So what does velocity[0] being -50.0 actually mean |
| 21:43.55 | Constitution | I would assume world units per second |
| 21:44.13 | Constitution | but that's really fast |
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| 21:58.26 | Winny | Flash: macbooks |
| 21:58.28 | Winny | not macbook pros |
| 21:58.37 | Flash | ok |
| 21:58.39 | Winny | as in the little white things |
| 21:59.29 | Flash | Skeeve: there is already code to do that in the extended observer info |
| 21:59.35 | Flash | you might be able to steal from that |
| 21:59.53 | Flash | that is, if you drive with someone as observer, you can see their velocity |
| 21:59.54 | Skeeve | Sounds great, Flash |
| 22:00.21 | Skeeve | Can you give me some hint in regards to filenames? |
| 22:00.32 | Flash | there's also code to display every tank's velocity in the score list, but it may be restricted to privileged users (admins) |
| 22:00.42 | Flash | no, I just know the feature exists |
| 22:01.12 | Skeeve | Okay. Thanks anyway |
| 22:02.28 | Constitution | it's not restricted to admins |
| 22:02.32 | Constitution | just observers |
| 22:02.39 | Flash | ah |
| 22:03.03 | Constitution | it just interprets the info coming over the wire and prints it out in human-readable form |
| 22:03.29 | Flash | ok, look in ScoreBoardRenderer.cxx |
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| 22:03.42 | Skeeve | found it |
| 22:03.44 | Skeeve | line 612 |
| 22:03.45 | Flash | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:04.00 | Skeeve | Thanks, flash! |
| 22:04.12 | Flash | (I guess we don't care how fast you jump) |
| 22:04.57 | Skeeve | Might be worth a try to cheat there ;-) |
| 22:05.09 | Skeeve | Make the tank jump double as fast ;-) |
| 22:05.13 | Skeeve | Just kidding |
| 22:07.27 | Constitution | the server has speed checks... you wouldn't get away with it |
| 22:09.18 | Skeeve | As I said: Kidding |
| 22:09.25 | Skeeve | I see no fun in cheating |
| 22:09.49 | Skeeve | (except if you cheat the cheater) |
| 22:09.57 | Skeeve | but that's another story |
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| 22:24.09 | bz83 | ~bzfquery 66.249.65.41:5154. |
| 22:24.54 | bz83 | ~bzfquery 66.249.65.41:5154 |
| 22:26.59 | Skeeve | ;-) second day to no success. Poor bzXX |
| 22:27.58 | Skeeve | I'm wondering whether or not the 2 digits in his nick have a meaning. |
| 22:28.14 | Skeeve | 56 yesterday. 46 and 83 today |
| 22:28.28 | spldart | Relax |
| 22:28.40 | spldart | Lots of BZ##'s out there |
| 22:28.44 | Skeeve | Why. I'm again just kidding |
| 22:29.15 | Skeeve | but only few failing in port forwarding ;-) |
| 22:29.33 | spldart | Well.. if you have been here quite a while.. There have been more than a few. |
| 22:29.42 | spldart | But yeah |
| 22:29.52 | spldart | This too shall pass. |
| 22:30.20 | blast007 | Skeeve: if you were cheating against a cheater, you'd still get banned on my servers ;) |
| 22:30.42 | Skeeve | which servers are yours? |
| 22:30.59 | Skeeve | not -=WNC=- I guess? |
| 22:31.00 | spldart | ?! |
| 22:31.02 | blast007 | bzexcess (none are up for 2.0.x right now) |
| 22:31.51 | spldart | I seem to remember me noting recently about being warned against cheating agatinst cheaters, quite a while back. In theory. |
| 22:32.16 | spldart | 2 years ago or more roughly |
| 22:33.44 | Skeeve | my anti-cheater cheat is dead currently. I think I lost it my HD crash and I won't write it aain fo now |
| 22:34.17 | spldart | Meh.. Dont bother. write something productive and commit-able instead. :) |
| 22:35.00 | Skeeve | I try to |
| 22:35.06 | a_meteorite | I want duke nuke'em quotes |
| 22:35.22 | spldart | mmMMmm duke numem |
| 22:35.26 | spldart | nukem |
| 22:35.39 | spldart | "Darn. I'm looking good" |
| 22:35.58 | spldart | "Hail to the chief. baby." |
| 22:37.21 | Skeeve | my relativespeed-mehod isn't useful. It doesn't care whether o not I'm diving ackwards. Thanks to a^2*b^2 |
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| 22:48.40 | BulletCatcher | Skeeve and spldart, the bz## nicks usually come from people who connect to IRC via the web page at http://my.bzflag.org/irc/ . |
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| 22:50.51 | blast007 | hello bz57 |
| 22:51.06 | bz57 | ~bzfquery 66.249.65.41:5154 |
| 22:52.00 | blast007 | is that supposed to be your IP? |
| 22:52.15 | blast007 | it changed |
| 22:53.02 | bz57 | yes what changed |
| 22:53.05 | blast007 | wait... why are you using 66.249.65.41 |
| 22:53.13 | spldart | Dare I make a British detective joke? |
| 22:53.13 | bz57 | it my ip |
| 22:53.13 | blast007 | that resolves to googlebot :/ |
| 22:53.21 | blast007 | ~nslookup 66.249.65.41 |
| 22:53.27 | Skeeve | As it did yesterday |
| 22:53.38 | bz57 | hum |
| 22:53.41 | blast007 | don't think that's your IP ;) |
| 22:54.02 | blast007 | then again, I can't connect to a server on your real IP |
| 22:54.26 | blast007 | running a server isn't for people that don't know about networking and computer security |
| 22:55.26 | Skeeve | So he was told yesterday, blast007 |
| 22:58.59 | bz57 | ~bzfquery 67.240.201.135:5154 |
| 22:59.07 | bz57 | no try |
| 22:59.13 | bz57 | now try |
| 23:00.25 | blast007 | nope |
| 23:00.43 | blast007 | okay, take these steps: |
| 23:00.56 | bz57 | ok |
| 23:01.25 | bz57 | what are they? |
| 23:01.42 | blast007 | 1) run just a play 'bzfs' (no config or paramaters) 2) Verify the IP of your computer is the same one you have configured in the port forwarding 3) make sure you have port 5154 forwarded, on both TCP and UDP 4) Then tell us to try again |
| 23:01.55 | blast007 | er, not 'play', but 'plain' |
| 23:02.09 | bz57 | ok let me try that |
| 23:04.32 | bz57 | ok i did it |
| 23:04.33 | Skeeve | And now the third hour network support for bzXX starts |
| 23:05.08 | blast007 | Skeeve: well, I'm not going any further than this. If this fails, I'm going to assume his ISP just doesn't allow it. :) |
| 23:05.21 | bz57 | ~bzfquery 67.240.201.135:5154 |
| 23:05.28 | bz57 | my isp is aol |
| 23:05.33 | blast007 | uh |
| 23:05.37 | bz57 | i mean road runner |
| 23:05.39 | Skeeve | AOL Dosn't allow it |
| 23:05.52 | bz57 | does road runner |
| 23:05.56 | blast007 | ask them |
| 23:05.59 | blast007 | give them a call |
| 23:06.09 | bz57 | ok thanks |
| 23:06.12 | bz57 | bye |
| 23:06.14 | blast007 | cya |
| 23:07.36 | Skeeve | okay⦠my speed indicator works (a bit ugly) but I still have to figure out the direction i'm driving |
| 23:07.53 | blast007 | why do you need the direction? |
| 23:08.04 | blast007 | I mean, you already have that on the screen |
| 23:08.08 | blast007 | at the top of the mouse box |
| 23:08.36 | blast007 | well, at least the direction you are facing |
| 23:09.22 | Skeeve | Ah! No! Whether I'm driving backward or forward |
| 23:09.50 | Skeeve | When I do the calculation, I always get positive results. |
| 23:10.11 | Skeeve | That's because I have to apply a Pythagoras ;-) |
| 23:10.34 | blast007 | let me look at the code quick, might be a better way |
| 23:11.25 | Skeeve | at my code? |
| 23:12.04 | blast007 | no, at my code |
| 23:12.14 | blast007 | s/my/the official/ ;) |
| 23:13.29 | Skeeve | I do what flash found in the scoreboard sqrt(state.velocity[0]*state.velocity[0]+state.velocity[1]*state.velocity[1]) |
| 23:14.06 | blast007 | add a function to LocalPlayer.cxx that returns a float and make it return desiredSpeed |
| 23:14.25 | blast007 | then you can call myTank->getDesiredSpeed() |
| 23:14.30 | blast007 | (if you call it that) |
| 23:14.41 | Skeeve | almost |
| 23:14.46 | blast007 | then you don't have to worry about direction or computing the vector |
| 23:14.50 | Skeeve | I just need the sign of it |
| 23:14.57 | blast007 | right, that will have it |
| 23:15.07 | blast007 | it's the desired speed, as a single value |
| 23:15.14 | Skeeve | is there a C++ std::sign or something? |
| 23:15.46 | blast007 | might not work the way you want it though, since it's not the 'actual' speed you are moving, it's the speed of the tank based on your mouse position |
| 23:15.58 | Skeeve | or I have to code (desiredSpeed < 0 ? -1 : 1) |
| 23:16.13 | Skeeve | np blast I have the real speed |
| 23:16.39 | blast007 | oh, yeah, you could do that, I guess |
| 23:17.11 | blast007 | myTank->amIGoingForward(); |
| 23:17.12 | blast007 | ;) |
| 23:17.17 | Skeeve | just done⦠We'll see |
| 23:17.47 | spldart | RR allow? strictly no but technecley yes They only block 80, 8080 and sometimes 21 |
| 23:18.19 | Skeeve | at least bzXX stopped testing, spldart |
| 23:18.24 | spldart | Comcast has not been any stricter after the transition here |
| 23:18.27 | spldart | ah |
| 23:18.56 | spldart | was movie watcing |
| 23:19.06 | spldart | s/watcing/watching |
| 23:20.02 | Skeeve | Now I seem to have some typecasting(?) problems |
| 23:20.23 | Skeeve | centery + maxMotionSize * velocity <- works for positive velocity |
| 23:20.40 | Skeeve | for negative the product seems to return zero |
| 23:25.29 | Skeeve | No idea :-( I go to bed |
| 23:25.31 | Skeeve | Good night |
| 23:34.40 | donny_baker | blast007: ping |
| 23:34.44 | blast007 | donny_baker: pong |