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| 00:51.22 | CBG | yo Abominable |
| 00:51.37 | CBG | how ya doing Abominable |
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| 01:22.11 | MindstormsKid | how would i make a "go around" physics? |
| 01:22.15 | MindstormsKid | e.g. i have an arc, and i want the tank to go around it |
| 01:22.45 | MindstormsKid | as in a 360deg. one |
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| 01:23.35 | temp_dist | MindstormsKid: do you have a 2.99 client? look at delusional_'s map that is up |
| 01:23.47 | temp_dist | he has a track with a physics like that |
| 01:23.51 | MindstormsKid | ok |
| 01:23.58 | MindstormsKid | erm |
| 01:24.13 | MindstormsKid | oh wait, he is on :P |
| 01:24.26 | delusional_ | angular physics |
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| 01:37.33 | delusional_ | i sure hope KTL makes a script that will fix old-style tele links. |
| 01:44.36 | MindstormsKid | didn't FP make one? |
| 01:44.59 | delusional_ | who?? link me to it? |
| 01:45.08 | delusional_ | popcorn? |
| 01:45.13 | MindstormsKid | flying popcorn |
| 01:45.15 | MindstormsKid | yep |
| 01:45.56 | MindstormsKid | hang on |
| 01:47.23 | MindstormsKid | http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=12886&highlight= |
| 01:47.57 | MindstormsKid | hmm, well, maybe not what you were thinking :P |
| 01:48.15 | MindstormsKid | bye |
| 01:53.14 | delusional_ | i thnk that will work. thanks flying popcorn |
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| 03:45.04 | a_meteorite | http://my.bzflag.org/w/User_talk:Hijing |
| 03:45.19 | a_meteorite | maybe a wiki mod could fix that up |
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| 04:11.07 | Flash | I tried "svn up" and I get "svn: Failed to add file 'src/other/ftgl/m4/pkg.m4': object of the same name already exists" |
| 04:11.20 | Flash | I tried svn revert -R . and it returns |
| 04:11.28 | Flash | any idea how to fix it? |
| 04:13.38 | Quol | other then a new svn checkout? :) |
| 04:14.33 | JeffM | remove the offending file |
| 04:14.37 | JeffM | and check out again |
| 04:15.02 | JeffM | has it changed? |
| 04:15.18 | Flash | I think it was part of BulletCatcher's last sync |
| 04:15.25 | Flash | either that or mine ;-) |
| 04:15.32 | Quol | you would think that a revert would take care of it...and return things to it's previous "last checked out state" though |
| 04:18.15 | Flash | that's what I thought, but you actually have to 'rm' the offending file. Thanks JeffM |
| 04:19.59 | JeffM | yeah you do |
| 04:20.09 | JeffM | cus if it has local changes they don't like to ditch it |
| 04:20.14 | Flash | is there any problem with running ./configure --enable-debug and --enable-profile together? |
| 04:20.15 | JeffM | specialy after it has an "issue" |
| 04:20.30 | JeffM | yeah when you debug it, it'll step around wierd |
| 04:20.38 | JeffM | cus the sources won't match what is executed |
| 04:21.20 | Flash | BulletCatcher: my FTGL doesn't compile any more :-( |
| 04:21.29 | BulletCatcher | details? |
| 04:21.39 | Flash | FTGL/ftgl.h:32:22: error: ft2build.h: No such file or directory |
| 04:21.44 | Flash | seems to be the root cause |
| 04:21.51 | Flash | FTBuffer.cpp:28 |
| 04:23.19 | BulletCatcher | Did you ./configure --enable_freetype_build ? |
| 04:23.28 | BulletCatcher | s/_/-/g |
| 04:23.31 | Flash | yes, unless I typoed it |
| 04:24.16 | Flash | ./configure --enable-freetype-build --enable-debug looks right to me |
| 04:25.29 | JeffM | wow, SF's svn server really sucks dosn't it? |
| 04:26.01 | BulletCatcher | Is there a -I../freetype/include option (or similar) passed to the compiler? |
| 04:26.32 | BulletCatcher | (perhaps with another "../") |
| 04:26.43 | Flash | no |
| 04:26.54 | Flash | g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I.. -IFTGlyph -IFTFont -IFTLayout -I../src -Wall -Wpointer-arith -Wcast-align -Wcast-qual -Wshadow -Wsign-compare -g -O2 -MT libftgl_la-FTBuffer.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/libftgl_la-FTBuffer.Tpo -c FTBuffer.cpp -fno-common -DPIC -o .libs/libftgl_la-FTBuffer.o |
| 04:27.48 | BulletCatcher | That'll do it. But I'm not sure how it got that way. I suggest "make distclean" and then start over with autogen.sh . |
| 04:27.50 | Flash | maybe we lost our --enable-freetype-build in the ftgl configure? |
| 04:28.02 | Flash | I did a make maintainer-clean |
| 04:28.11 | BulletCatcher | I left it in there. Also, I successfully compiled on my Mac. |
| 04:28.47 | BulletCatcher | maintainer-clean is a superset of distclean, so that should be fine. |
| 04:29.33 | BulletCatcher | Oh. I recall not having the same trouble with freetype on my 10.4 Mac that you have with 10.5. |
| 04:29.42 | Flash | right |
| 04:30.36 | Flash | configure: Using the included FreeType2 <---bzzzt |
| 04:31.11 | Flash | configure: running /bin/sh ./configure '--prefix=/usr/local' '--enable-freetype-build' '--enable-debug' --cache-file=../../../config.cache.darwin9.4.0.IntelliMac-3.local --srcdir=. |
| 04:31.19 | Flash | looks like it should have worked |
| 04:31.28 | Quol | ok - I am out - see you later all |
| 04:31.33 | Flash | I did have that m4 file issue |
| 04:31.53 | Flash | src/other/ftgl/m4/pkg.m4 |
| 04:32.50 | BulletCatcher | I don't think that matters. |
| 04:32.57 | BulletCatcher | There was one change from upstream that I wasn't sure about. Give me a few minutes to find it. |
| 04:34.26 | Flash | pkg.m4 doesn't appear to have any history |
| 04:34.42 | BulletCatcher | How about in the FTGL upstream? |
| 04:35.13 | Flash | I'll check, but you definitely introduced it |
| 04:36.20 | Flash | it's been in head at least since 1043 |
| 04:39.59 | Flash | http://ftgl.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/ftgl?view=rev&revision=1043 |
| 04:40.07 | BulletCatcher | In src/other/ftgl/src/Makefile.am change this line: |
| 04:40.09 | BulletCatcher | libftgl_la_CPPFLAGS = -IFTGlyph -IFTFont -IFTLayout |
| 04:40.12 | BulletCatcher | to |
| 04:40.18 | BulletCatcher | AM_CPPFLAGS = -IFTGlyph -IFTFont -IFTLayout $(FT2_CPPFLAGS) |
| 04:40.35 | BulletCatcher | You'll need to autogen.sh again. |
| 04:43.16 | JeffM | builds fine for me |
| 04:44.06 | BulletCatcher | That's good. This particular problem only seems to affect MacOS 10.5. |
| 04:44.38 | JeffM | ahh good, so you have an easy solution, bootcamp ;) |
| 04:44.55 | BulletCatcher | Uh huh. We'll get right on that. |
| 04:45.08 | JeffM | heh |
| 04:45.24 | JeffM | so how hard is it to install mono on OSX? |
| 04:47.15 | Flash | ~BulletCatcher++ |
| 04:47.45 | Flash | JeffM: I'm not averse to bootcamp but I don't want to buy Windows |
| 04:48.14 | BulletCatcher | Yay. That will keep you working, while I devise a proper fix. |
| 04:48.19 | JeffM | well you did spend all that money on OSK ;) |
| 04:48.20 | Flash | besides, if we didn't debug the MacOS issues for you, you'd have to do it ;-) |
| 04:48.25 | JeffM | OSX even |
| 04:48.30 | JeffM | Flash: naw |
| 04:48.35 | JeffM | don't own a mac anymore |
| 04:48.37 | JeffM | sold it |
| 04:48.43 | JeffM | bought a laptop |
| 04:48.44 | Flash | so be grateful |
| 04:48.52 | Flash | only owns laptops anymore |
| 04:49.28 | JeffM | actualy brlcad would do it :) |
| 04:49.32 | JeffM | so no I'd not have to |
| 04:49.39 | Flash | ~brlcad++ |
| 04:49.40 | JeffM | mac bins ship so far behind winbins |
| 04:49.59 | JeffM | I do wish that he'd put the code for fontmanager back |
| 04:50.06 | JeffM | I still don't belive we have a valid state |
| 04:50.24 | Flash | I think we do, but it spews debug output that he won't let me take out |
| 04:50.53 | Flash | in its current state, FontManager provably has no state issues. I think his bug is down in ftgl |
| 04:52.37 | BulletCatcher | Flash, now change AM_CPPFLAGS back to libftgl_la_CPPFLAGS on that same line in the Makefile.am . If that still works then there is nothing more to do there. |
| 04:52.47 | Flash | huh? |
| 04:53.07 | Flash | just change those tokens and leave the line alone? |
| 04:53.21 | BulletCatcher | Yes. I think we really just needed to add $(FT2_CPPFLAGS) to the end of the line. |
| 04:54.10 | Flash | well, it didn't actually recompile anything |
| 04:54.17 | BulletCatcher | autogen.sh |
| 04:54.23 | Flash | and I don't want to re-autogen right now..... aw do I have to? |
| 04:54.35 | BulletCatcher | I can wait. |
| 04:56.09 | BulletCatcher | The FontManager debug output can be suppressed by changing to "#define debugging 0" at line 46 of src/3D/FontManager.cxx . |
| 04:56.59 | BulletCatcher | (Just don't commit that change.) |
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| 05:11.36 | Constitution | BZBB admins: I think the account "NightMare" is now registered on the BZBB... seem to recall that he had a + by his name last time I saw. |
| 05:11.55 | BulletCatcher | joy |
| 05:17.01 | blast007 | I don't see him with an account |
| 05:17.24 | blast007 | probably a local registration, or he has another forum account and renames it when he plays |
| 05:17.58 | a_meteorite | people still do local reg? wow |
| 05:18.17 | BulletCatcher | Is there a bzfs log level that will show BZID? |
| 05:18.18 | a_meteorite | :P |
| 05:18.43 | blast007 | BulletCatcher: I know at least three does |
| 05:19.01 | BulletCatcher | k |
| 05:29.06 | Flash | BulletCatcher: all good |
| 05:30.33 | BulletCatcher | Okay, keep that. Now there is a problem compliling FTGL with our Freetype on Linux that I have to track down. Grrr. |
| 05:37.05 | Flash | so I did a little performance test the other day |
| 05:37.41 | Flash | running in windowed (640x480) mode the menus come right up with no delay |
| 05:37.50 | Flash | running in full screen is abysmal |
| 05:38.30 | Flash | so I ran in windowed 1680x1050 and the performance was just about the same as full screen |
| 05:38.50 | Flash | now I'm wondering if it isn't just a graphics card issue? |
| 05:39.02 | Flash | or GL driver issue |
| 05:39.35 | BulletCatcher | FWIW, I see no performance problems in fullscreen on my MacBook. |
| 05:40.32 | BulletCatcher | It is worth mentioning that I compile without SDL on my Mac. |
| 05:40.57 | JeffM | and it works? |
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| 05:41.15 | BulletCatcher | Yup, except for a segfault when I quit. |
| 05:41.20 | ducktape | hi |
| 05:41.29 | BulletCatcher | hey, ducktape |
| 05:41.42 | ducktape | im on ds! |
| 05:41.45 | ducktape | :p |
| 05:41.49 | BulletCatcher | Still? |
| 05:41.54 | ducktape | yes |
| 05:41.59 | ducktape | lol |
| 05:42.06 | ducktape | its sweet |
| 05:42.13 | blast007 | ducktape: you don't have to tell us every time |
| 05:42.58 | ducktape | didnt know bullet was here... |
| 05:52.01 | JeffM | so what? he had to make sure that EVERYONE knows he can install an image onto an SD card and boot a ds to linux...whopty do. |
| 05:52.32 | BulletCatcher | I'll bite. What's a ds? |
| 05:53.20 | blast007 | nintendo DS |
| 05:53.28 | JeffM | the current nintendo portable game system |
| 05:53.33 | BulletCatcher | Got it. Thanks. |
| 05:53.48 | JeffM | you can basicly get a cart that has a USB port and someone got it to boot a striped down linux distro |
| 05:55.35 | BulletCatcher | The obvious on-topic question: can it run BZFlag? |
| 05:55.59 | JeffM | no |
| 05:56.09 | JeffM | I don't belive it has proper GL |
| 05:56.13 | JeffM | but it could run bzadmin |
| 05:56.18 | JeffM | with some tweaking |
| 05:56.50 | JeffM | it dosn't exactly have lots of ram (meg or so IIRC) |
| 05:57.13 | JeffM | ahh 4 megs |
| 05:57.34 | BulletCatcher | That would be a limiting factor. |
| 05:57.39 | JeffM | yeah |
| 05:58.06 | JeffM | we assume basicly unlimited GL memory and try to put as much on the card as we can |
| 05:58.35 | BulletCatcher | That is a fine assumption for a modern gaming PC. |
| 05:58.40 | JeffM | indeed |
| 05:58.55 | JeffM | tho not so good for a mac with an 8 meg rage 128 :) |
| 05:59.09 | JeffM | appleGL dosn't remap system memory to the card via the AGP system like it should. |
| 06:01.46 | BulletCatcher | I used to play BZFlag with only 16MB allocated to my NVIDIA card. I could never pin any performance problems on that configuration, but now I just have it maxed out at 128 MB after buying a gig of RAM. |
| 06:02.00 | JeffM | 16 is fine, on average we use about 12 |
| 06:02.14 | JeffM | more if you run a decent res |
| 06:02.27 | JeffM | how big is your screen? |
| 06:02.36 | BulletCatcher | 1400x1050 |
| 06:02.40 | Flash | I have GeForce 8600M GT 256MB .... should be plenty? |
| 06:02.42 | JeffM | if you allocate system ram, then it must be an IGP |
| 06:03.16 | Flash | I don't believe that's possible |
| 06:03.27 | BulletCatcher | My video is built into the motherboard. |
| 06:03.32 | JeffM | that's an IGP |
| 06:03.55 | JeffM | those are the slowest |
| 06:03.58 | Flash | BulletCatcher: are you positive? my laptop says it's PCIe |
| 06:04.09 | JeffM | Flash: that' just means that's the interface to the chipset |
| 06:04.12 | JeffM | it may not have any ram |
| 06:04.26 | JeffM | the 8600's have ram and possibly turbo cache to system ram |
| 06:04.27 | BulletCatcher | Flash: I am talking about my Linux system at this point. |
| 06:04.32 | Flash | oh |
| 06:04.43 | JeffM | dunno if apple does the turbocache stuff |
| 06:05.02 | JeffM | 8600's a decent chip |
| 06:05.05 | BulletCatcher | Sorry for the confusion. |
| 06:05.09 | JeffM | have one in my lappy too |
| 06:05.21 | JeffM | not the best on the shaders but decent enough for most stuff |
| 06:05.24 | Flash | http://flash.pastebin.ca/1197883 |
| 06:06.19 | JeffM | yep, that's the same as I run |
| 06:06.29 | JeffM | tho I have another 256 allocated to turbo cache in case it needs it |
| 06:07.49 | JeffM | BulletCatcher: what chipset do you have? |
| 06:08.22 | BulletCatcher | Yes, I realize that my built-in video card is nearly bottom of the line, but for BZFlag 2.0.x it seems fine. If we can't increase the frame rate in 3.0 that will motivate me to upgrade. |
| 06:08.23 | BulletCatcher | GeForce 6100 |
| 06:08.29 | JeffM | my condolences |
| 06:09.13 | BulletCatcher | Dirt cheap. Worth every penny. |
| 06:09.29 | JeffM | it a laptop? |
| 06:09.51 | BulletCatcher | No. It is on an ASUS A8N-VM motherboard. |
| 06:10.01 | JeffM | ahh |
| 06:10.06 | BulletCatcher | Couple of years old. |
| 06:10.09 | JeffM | indeed |
| 06:10.31 | JeffM | I ended up ditching my 6100 mobo for one with out graphics as the IGP was causing problems with the real video card |
| 06:10.44 | JeffM | performance wise the 6100's suck bad |
| 06:11.13 | BulletCatcher | BZFlag is the most demanding thing I use it for, so it's okay. |
| 06:11.17 | JeffM | true |
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| 06:14.06 | JeffM | one of these days I'll fix that bug |
| 06:43.51 | CIA-49 | BZFlag: 03bullet_catcher * r18543 10/trunk/bzflag/src/other/ftgl/src/Makefile.am: When appropriate, use the FreeType includes that are distributed with BZFlag. |
| 06:43.58 | BulletCatcher | Flash: that change should be identical to what you already have. |
| 06:48.05 | Flash | ok |
| 06:48.34 | Flash | I'm guessing that change does NOT go upstream... |
| 06:48.42 | BulletCatcher | Correct. |
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| 15:02.53 | lukstr | hey all |
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| 15:11.52 | lukstr | How should I produce a diff for my code? diff my brance from first revision? |
| 15:12.08 | lukstr | s/brance/branch/ |
| 15:14.58 | CIA-48 | BZFlag: 03lukstr * r18544 10/branches/gsoc_libbzw/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Looks like working copy has changes; comitting them :) |
| 15:23.12 | lukstr | d'oh, guess I shoud |
| 15:23.18 | lukstr | not include boost in my diff :S |
| 15:31.27 | lukstr | oh well |
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| 16:47.25 | randomparticle | i've redone a font file |
| 16:47.36 | randomparticle | comparison: http://www.pixentral.com/show.php?picture=13kdcke5ujdJEdD15ggQo1EIix9zXf |
| 16:47.44 | randomparticle | the wobbliness is gone :) |
| 16:48.20 | randomparticle | dunno where to send the file to, though |
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| 17:00.44 | SportChick | hiya randomparticle |
| 17:00.51 | randomparticle | hi |
| 17:01.49 | BulletCatcher | randomparticle: That looks much better. Well done. |
| 17:01.50 | BulletCatcher | The next time he shows up here, JeffM should be able to verify that your png file has all of the right attributes and then commit it. |
| 17:02.02 | randomparticle | ok |
| 17:02.07 | randomparticle | where shall i send it? |
| 17:02.41 | BulletCatcher | He can answer that question, too. |
| 17:02.56 | randomparticle | ok |
| 17:03.06 | BulletCatcher | (there are many options) |
| 17:03.29 | randomparticle | I'm not 100% happy with the result, but it's an improvement i think |
| 17:04.01 | randomparticle | the difficulty is the upscaling. it's a 32 pt font, but it's expanded quite a bit on-screen |
| 17:04.25 | randomparticle | ideally one would use a larger point size to begin with |
| 17:05.18 | BulletCatcher | The image you posted looks just as good as the older fonts, so it should make everyone happy. |
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| 17:05.56 | randomparticle | i just changed the one file to start with. the smaller fonts don't get the jaggies so much |
| 17:06.14 | randomparticle | mainly seems to be an issue with DejaVuSansCondensedBold_32 |
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| 17:08.56 | BulletCatcher | There he is. |
| 17:12.04 | BulletCatcher | JeffM2501: randomparticle has been able to do a very nice job of anti-aliasing the new fonts in branch. If you and he can work together to get the new png files committed it should keep 2.0.x looking pretty. |
| 17:12.26 | JeffM2501 | dude.... it's dead |
| 17:12.50 | JeffM2501 | and why can't you just commit the pngs? |
| 17:13.41 | JeffM2501 | I really have no care about branch anymore, all it's doing is going (gone ) into a debian package. |
| 17:14.03 | BulletCatcher | I am concerned that his process may be missing a step, but I can certainly test them myself and then commit. |
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| 17:15.07 | JeffM2501 | no they are just images |
| 17:15.11 | JeffM2501 | I have to reboot |
| 17:15.14 | BulletCatcher | k |
| 17:16.21 | BulletCatcher | I have to leave for work, myself. randomparticle, I should be able to help late this evening. If you'll post the png file to the same web site I can download it from there. |
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| 17:31.16 | JeffM__ | randomparticle, you didn't move any of the characters did you? |
| 17:31.38 | whodaman- | lol |
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| 17:53.25 | randomparticle | to spell rude words and such like? :) |
| 17:53.49 | randomparticle | they're pretty close to where they were before. not spot on, but you can easily check |
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| 17:54.11 | randomparticle | they're pretty close to where they were before. not spot on, but you can easily check |
| 17:54.43 | randomparticle | i did it the dumb way, in illustrator carefully moving the chars into place |
| 17:55.06 | randomparticle | i used the original as a layer underneath to get the positioning right |
| 17:55.23 | JeffM | the spacing info in the text file refrences the pixel postions in the image |
| 17:55.29 | randomparticle | yeah |
| 17:55.33 | JeffM | so if they arn't right it wont work |
| 17:55.37 | JeffM | but it looks ok in game? |
| 17:55.42 | randomparticle | yeah, looks fine |
| 17:55.59 | epyon | at which revision did SoC start? |
| 17:56.01 | JeffM | then yeah it's just an image replacement, not sure why BulletCatcher wants it to be more complex then that |
| 17:56.11 | JeffM | epyon, sort by date |
| 17:58.00 | JeffM | you can find your first commit after the start date |
| 17:59.36 | epyon | start date counts official coding start date right? |
| 17:59.40 | epyon | Or program start? |
| 18:00.00 | JeffM | well I assume you are talking about this for your code sumission to google? |
| 18:00.06 | epyon | yeah |
| 18:00.07 | JeffM | if so, then code start |
| 18:00.11 | JeffM | since you know.. code... |
| 18:00.14 | JeffM | and start |
| 18:00.34 | epyon | I'm still wondering diff vs. folder tar |
| 18:00.43 | epyon | I guess I should supply both |
| 18:00.50 | JeffM | I don't think it matters that much |
| 18:02.51 | epyon | I guess it should be counted from April 21 |
| 18:03.46 | JeffM | you would be incorrect |
| 18:04.02 | JeffM | May 26: Students begin coding for their GSoC projects; |
| 18:05.21 | epyon | But they *can* code before that, right? Considering that they already are in. |
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| 18:05.27 | JeffM | no |
| 18:05.37 | JeffM | the time before that is discussion and getting to know, etc.. |
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| 18:05.43 | epyon | If someone would do 80% of the work during community bonding, would he be a criminal? |
| 18:05.57 | JeffM | they would have probably failed at the midterm for lack of work |
| 18:06.04 | JeffM | it's not a criminal thing |
| 18:06.12 | JeffM | google is not using this for a pass/fail |
| 18:06.15 | JeffM | for that they trust us |
| 18:06.29 | JeffM | they just need record of what work was paid for, and the CODE date is set there |
| 18:06.30 | epyon | code sample = coding done for the 2008 GSoC |
| 18:06.40 | JeffM | dude, ask in SOC |
| 18:06.53 | epyon | well, I wont argue, but I still am not convinced :) |
| 18:06.59 | JeffM | THEN ASK |
| 18:07.01 | JeffM | dam man |
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| 18:11.53 | epyon | well, I got an answer that it counts... |
| 18:12.44 | spldart | tries to emanate some mettÄ into the room ;) |
| 18:13.01 | JeffM | epyon, no you had someone you don't know say what they thought ;) |
| 18:13.24 | epyon | yeah, so I'll wait a little :P |
| 18:13.46 | JeffM | it dosn't really matter |
| 18:13.47 | epyon | spldart: mettÄ? |
| 18:13.58 | epyon | JeffM: so do I think too |
| 18:13.59 | spldart | wiki it :) |
| 18:14.26 | epyon | oh lol |
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| 18:22.28 | Ratfink | I have a feature that you might want to add to BZFlag 3: Wind. |
| 18:23.43 | Ratfink | You could have it controlled by server variables. |
| 18:23.59 | ruskie | and what would it affect? |
| 18:24.03 | Ratfink | And it would blow shots and/or tanks. |
| 18:24.09 | epyon | woah, that would be annoying xP |
| 18:24.14 | ruskie | agreed |
| 18:24.19 | Ratfink | It could be on or off. |
| 18:24.34 | ruskie | though I kinda miss shots keep virt velocity on vipers... |
| 18:25.14 | Ratfink | ShotsKeepVerticalVelocity and wind could make a pretty interesting map. |
| 18:25.21 | Ratfink | I think. |
| 18:26.42 | epyon | hopes that svn diff -r 17050:18428 > bzwgen.diff is a valid command -_- |
| 18:26.54 | Ratfink | It wouldn't blow the tanks much, after all, they're TANKS. |
| 18:27.30 | Ratfink | And the shots blowing could be used to shoot around a wall. |
| 18:27.46 | ruskie | could imagine a gale blowing a rocket powered tank off a platform while mid air |
| 18:28.27 | Ratfink | It would blow the tanks more if there is nothing blocking the wind. |
| 18:28.32 | Ratfink | Same with the shots. |
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