| 00:55.19 | BulletCatcher | Flash: since rabbit hunt sorts players by rank (by default), it seems to me that the player with the highest rank should be the one to blink. |
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| 01:20.37 | MindstormsKid | JeffM: i found out that you made BZEdit! :D |
| 01:25.50 | JeffM | I made bzedit win32 |
| 01:26.03 | MindstormsKid | what's the diff..? |
| 01:26.19 | blast007 | the other one didn't run on Windows :P |
| 01:26.23 | JeffM | bzedit was for linux |
| 01:26.27 | MindstormsKid | oh :P |
| 01:26.30 | JeffM | bzedit win32 was for windows |
| 01:26.42 | JeffM | BZEdit was cross platform an never finished and kinda a secret ;) |
| 01:28.10 | JeffM | best parser I ever made tho :) |
| 01:29.47 | MindstormsKid | JeffM: well, i'm still working on that BZW editor (haha), and i was looking at BZEdit win32 for ideas... |
| 01:29.59 | MindstormsKid | however, i can't seem to find what runs it |
| 01:30.00 | JeffM | what is "that bzw editor"? |
| 01:30.10 | JeffM | what do you mean 'what runs it"? |
| 01:30.13 | MindstormsKid | the one you said wouldn't work, etc. :P |
| 01:30.18 | JeffM | huh? |
| 01:30.21 | blast007 | the javascript one? |
| 01:30.21 | MindstormsKid | as in "the program" :P |
| 01:30.25 | MindstormsKid | yeah |
| 01:30.30 | JeffM | oh I never said it woudln't work |
| 01:30.32 | blast007 | that people will have to download and run locally? |
| 01:30.40 | JeffM | I said it woudl not be easy |
| 01:30.45 | JeffM | and would be cumbersom |
| 01:30.48 | MindstormsKid | blast007: i decided to change it ^_^ |
| 01:31.00 | blast007 | you're going to save files with a server side language instead now? |
| 01:31.01 | MindstormsKid | it will use PHP for the file stuff ^_^ |
| 01:31.01 | JeffM | "not practical" is probably how I termed it |
| 01:31.06 | JeffM | I'm sure it could be made to work |
| 01:31.21 | JeffM | MindstormsKid: that is going to limit your editor view options |
| 01:31.27 | MindstormsKid | blast007: let's talk about that later |
| 01:31.35 | blast007 | about what? |
| 01:32.06 | MindstormsKid | JeffM: i found the images, dialogs, etc. but not anything that could run it |
| 01:32.09 | JeffM | what did you mean by "what runs it" did you have some specific questions about bzedit win32? |
| 01:32.18 | JeffM | what are you looking at? |
| 01:32.20 | JeffM | the sources? |
| 01:32.29 | MindstormsKid | the dlls and exe |
| 01:32.38 | JeffM | the exe "runs it" |
| 01:32.43 | MindstormsKid | hrm |
| 01:32.47 | MindstormsKid | weird |
| 01:32.49 | JeffM | what is your exact question, just how to start the program? |
| 01:33.07 | JeffM | or are you trying to look at it's sources |
| 01:33.08 | MindstormsKid | no, i want to look at the source code |
| 01:33.14 | MindstormsKid | right :P |
| 01:33.16 | JeffM | did you download the source code? |
| 01:33.24 | JeffM | bzedit is a compiled application |
| 01:33.38 | MindstormsKid | oh |
| 01:33.40 | MindstormsKid | well |
| 01:33.43 | MindstormsKid | looks |
| 01:33.49 | Think_Differentl | I would think that a Java Applet would be more practical for that kind of use. |
| 01:33.54 | JeffM | it dosn't come with it's own sources or anything. C++ is not an interpereted language like java |
| 01:34.13 | JeffM | the sources are on sourceforge |
| 01:34.53 | MindstormsKid | ok |
| 01:35.16 | JeffM | https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=3248 |
| 01:35.20 | JeffM | see the first item |
| 01:35.49 | JeffM | hah, it's flaged as "platform independent" how funny |
| 01:36.07 | MindstormsKid | ok |
| 01:37.20 | JeffM | hah, and it uses SME's for the fonts |
| 01:37.21 | JeffM | wow |
| 01:37.40 | JeffM | SME and TGA.. man that brings back memories |
| 01:39.20 | MindstormsKid | that's a lot of code O_O |
| 01:39.43 | JeffM | what did you expect? somethign that said "editmap();" |
| 01:39.56 | MindstormsKid | :P |
| 01:40.09 | MindstormsKid | what part does the editing? |
| 01:40.30 | JeffM | depends what part of the editing you are talking about |
| 01:40.35 | MindstormsKid | e.g. i don't want to look at the part that displays the map |
| 01:40.38 | JeffM | most operations are handled in the document |
| 01:40.45 | JeffM | the view does most of the drawing |
| 01:41.12 | JeffM | it's standard MFC doc view arch. |
| 01:41.13 | MindstormsKid | ok |
| 01:41.19 | JeffM | draging breaks the line a little but not much |
| 01:42.02 | MindstormsKid | (just so you know, i have no idea what that is O_O ) |
| 01:42.19 | blast007 | dragging? ;) or "MFC"? |
| 01:42.19 | JeffM | there is no clean break between the drawable world and the memory world just so you know |
| 01:42.35 | JeffM | do you know how old bzedit is? |
| 01:42.44 | JeffM | and what it's development cycle was? |
| 01:42.54 | MindstormsKid | no... |
| 01:43.08 | JeffM | has to be over 5years old |
| 01:43.10 | JeffM | maybe more |
| 01:43.21 | JeffM | maybe 6 |
| 01:43.29 | JeffM | I wrote it in a weekend or so |
| 01:43.39 | JeffM | then ignored it for like 6 months |
| 01:43.41 | MindstormsKid | :O |
| 01:43.45 | JeffM | then people started using it |
| 01:43.59 | JeffM | would totaly do it in C# now |
| 01:44.10 | MindstormsKid | ok... what part adds a box? |
| 01:44.33 | MindstormsKid | or edits |
| 01:45.18 | MindstormsKid | is stuck on the editing part |
| 01:45.33 | JeffM | I think you are jumping in too deep intialy, but let me look |
| 01:45.54 | JeffM | void CBZEdit32View::OnBoxButon() |
| 01:45.54 | JeffM | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:45.58 | JeffM | that's the toolbar callback |
| 01:46.39 | JeffM | it uses the doc to get the world, tells the world to add a box object then selects it and redraws |
| 01:46.55 | MindstormsKid | ok |
| 01:49.54 | JeffM | I think you should concentrate on reading the map file first |
| 01:50.00 | JeffM | then you'll see how to edit it |
| 01:50.07 | JeffM | bzedit dosn't actualy edit the text in real time |
| 01:50.15 | JeffM | it just barfs out a text file when you hit save |
| 01:50.20 | MindstormsKid | ok |
| 01:50.24 | MindstormsKid | well... |
| 01:50.47 | JeffM | the in memory storage is all in a class tree based on the object type |
| 02:04.51 | Abominable | Just fyi for people that don't know, Sk3letr0n is playing under registered Sk3, he was just at one of Ash3s server cheating. |
| 02:05.04 | JeffM | what IP? |
| 02:05.49 | Abominable | On sec |
| 02:06.51 | Abominable | 68.120.81.0 |
| 02:09.15 | Abominable | Any norag admins around, he's on Loumans BZbowl now. |
| 02:10.08 | MindstormsKid | joyz |
| 02:10.10 | MindstormsKid | :( |
| 02:10.17 | JeffM | not authed tho right? |
| 02:11.38 | Abominable | I poll banned him |
| 02:12.26 | JeffM | must not have updated the masterban list as that range is banned. |
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| 03:07.54 | Abominable | NightMare hit 0.linuxcenteral.com:5156 and I polled him too. Just letting everyone know Nightmare is out tonight. |
| 03:46.49 | Flash | Abominable: are you stalking nightmare? |
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| 04:01.43 | blast007 | Flash: probably |
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| 15:47.31 | BugQ | So, did I blow it? |
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| 16:03.37 | BugQ | All right, tell me later. |
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| 17:59.37 | CIA-50 | BZFlag: 03blast007 * r18493 10/trunk/db/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Restore the ability to set a theme, and select if the page should auto-refresh. The auto-refresh interval is set to two minutes. |
| 18:11.36 | Manu | epyon: be patient |
| 18:11.52 | Manu | so I was with you |
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| 18:13.54 | epyon | :) |
| 18:14.03 | Manu | :) |
| 18:14.36 | epyon | ok, understood, it was just that I'm moving out of house now, and try to sum up my financial situation. |
| 18:15.25 | Manu | epyon: from your point of view, how did you do it? |
| 18:15.27 | epyon | ( and getting a job... ) |
| 18:15.32 | epyon | fail |
| 18:16.25 | epyon | I did achieve only some of the goals, and failed miserably at assesing the main goals complexity in the beginning. |
| 18:16.46 | Manu | yes, as I told you time ago, you got distracted |
| 18:16.51 | Manu | in details |
| 18:17.00 | epyon | and in life -_- |
| 18:17.15 | Manu | but who know... be patient |
| 18:17.40 | bugQ | wonders where he's heard this before :P |
| 18:17.55 | Manu | hey bugQ :) |
| 18:18.05 | Manu | all the students around.. :) |
| 18:18.12 | bugQ | Hi, I'm just in the same boat... |
| 18:18.23 | Manu | bugQ: be patient :-p |
| 18:18.48 | Wyk3d | 's just eavesdropping |
| 18:20.11 | Manu | epyon: do you think in continue contributing bzflag? |
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| 18:31.48 | epyon | Manu: I'd like to at least finish what I started |
| 18:32.10 | epyon | As for other contribs that depends whether I'll be able to convince the devs to it :) |
| 18:33.16 | Manu | :) |
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| 18:41.12 | brlcad | thinks epyon should definitely finish what he started |
| 18:41.19 | brlcad | that goes for all the students, for that matter |
| 18:41.42 | brlcad | regardless of how the evaluations come out |
| 18:41.49 | bugQ | is still in it. |
| 18:42.09 | brlcad | which is the whole point of gsoc, it's not to be paid to do a project, it's to simply get involved in open source (and stay involved) |
| 18:42.25 | brlcad | bugQ: that's really good to hear |
| 18:46.16 | bugQ | school and other crazy things (the power going out all day yesterday) took up my time last week, but I'll soon find a place for this in my schedule |
| 18:47.00 | bugQ | and yeah, it's not the eval, I just have an interest in seeing it done |
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| 18:51.21 | Manu | epyon: I agree with brlcad about finishing the pending things ;) |
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| 20:11.22 | CIA-50 | BZFlag: 03timriker * r18495 10/branches/v2_0branch/bzflag/debian/README.Debian: we have a man page now |
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| 20:59.28 | menotume | who gave SVN access to TimRiker ??! |
| 20:59.46 | TimRiker | some irresponsible git |
| 20:59.52 | menotume | lol |
| 20:59.59 | menotume | how you doing Mr. Tim ? |
| 21:00.37 | TimRiker | ok. spent last week on vacation in outer banks area north carolina. had fun, didn't get too burned. |
| 21:01.25 | menotume | nice |
| 21:01.51 | Manu | TimRiker is back ;) |
| 21:03.03 | JeffM | hey TimRiker want to go the SoC mentor summit if you are eliigable? |
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| 21:17.58 | TimRiker | JeffM: hmm. perhaps. my travel schedule has been busy lately. |
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| 21:52.36 | spamrams | hey guys I am building the bzflag from source . I get the error called no fonts found use the -directory option? |
| 21:53.02 | spamrams | Any one knows whats the probelm? |
| 21:53.20 | Constitution | spamrams: what operating system? |
| 21:53.40 | spamrams | linux red hat |
| 21:53.57 | spamrams | I am not installing it as I dun have right in this system |
| 21:54.05 | spamrams | so I just used make and not make install |
| 21:54.09 | delusional | ````you need to specify the path to the data directory |
| 21:54.30 | delusional | the one with the sounds and png files in it |
| 21:54.32 | JeffM | yeah it assumes the data dir is where it's installed with make install |
| 21:54.37 | spamrams | yeah I used this ./bzflah -directory ../../data/font |
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| 21:54.44 | JeffM | if you don't don the make install then you use that option |
| 21:54.48 | JeffM | no just go to data |
| 21:54.49 | JeffM | not font |
| 21:54.53 | JeffM | it'll add in the font part |
| 21:54.55 | spamrams | okay |
| 21:55.12 | spamrams | should I say ./bzflah -directory ../../data/* |
| 21:55.20 | TimRiker | spamrams: I do this... src/bzflag/bzflag then data is in thr current directory. |
| 21:55.33 | JeffM | ether or should work |
| 21:55.41 | TimRiker | scared him away I guess. |
| 21:55.50 | TimRiker | nods at JeffM |
| 21:58.26 | JeffM | TimRiker, the conf is at the end of october, it's looking like it's come down to jbd, dtr, and myself, and I figure that if you want to go and can, all the better. |
| 21:58.34 | JeffM | don't want to hog anymore of the bzflag limelite |
| 21:58.41 | JeffM | I went last year and it was fun |
| 21:59.06 | TimRiker | cool. drop me an email reminder sometime. it's on google campus I presume? |
| 21:59.12 | JeffM | yes |
| 21:59.35 | TimRiker | going to hit the computer museum while you're there? I'd still like to see the diff machine run. |
| 21:59.38 | JeffM | I have to ask brlcad if you are able to attend tho |
| 21:59.48 | JeffM | I belive you were on the mentors list, but didn't have a student. |
| 22:00.03 | TimRiker | correct. for the second year. :/ |
| 22:00.59 | JeffM | they take a lot of time |
| 22:01.24 | JeffM | and are hard to clean up after when they forget to use the litter box |
| 22:01.36 | TimRiker | oh, and the smell... |
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| 23:38.13 | spldart | Is it just me or is it harder to shoot yourself with ricochets that are just a bit above and below your tank mid jump? |
| 23:38.17 | spldart | In the trunk code |
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