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| 02:31.21 | echelon | hey guys :) |
| 02:31.36 | echelon | <= titmouse :) |
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| 03:50.13 | donny_baker | ~JeffM++ |
| 03:50.34 | JeffM | for what? |
| 03:50.43 | JeffM | I swear I didn't know it was your cousin |
| 03:50.47 | donny_baker | volumetric weather explanation |
| 03:51.24 | donny_baker | i knew that but couldnt say it... the words just wouldnt come |
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| 04:34.47 | trepan | http://trepan.bzflag.bz/jpg-fog/more-gnd-fog.jpg -- if i finish what i've started, bzflag can use that gadget as easily as spring does |
| 04:35.09 | trepan | almost no fps hit for cards that support it (requires frag shaders + fbos, iirc) |
| 04:35.32 | JeffM | yeah but that has gameplay effects |
| 04:35.45 | JeffM | and if the cards don't show it, then it's not really 'fair' |
| 04:36.07 | JeffM | that's my core problem with volumetric fog |
| 04:36.09 | JeffM | it's all or none |
| 04:36.22 | trepan | potentially the same with several effects |
| 04:36.31 | trepan | black-out clients that can't use it |
| 04:36.34 | trepan | problem solved |
| 04:36.47 | JeffM | as in don't let them connect? |
| 04:36.59 | trepan | black-out the screen, with a polite notice ;-0 |
| 04:37.02 | JeffM | we' have to find a way of showing it at the list server level |
| 04:37.07 | JeffM | naw that's not the same |
| 04:37.11 | JeffM | as the fog isn't a full blackout |
| 04:37.18 | JeffM | specialy if you are outside and looking into the fog |
| 04:37.38 | trepan | sure, i'd mentionned a 'gfx capabilities' flag a very long time ago |
| 04:38.00 | JeffM | I'm not sure if I'm cool with doing a list filter tho |
| 04:38.15 | Abominable | any fairserv admins around? |
| 04:38.16 | JeffM | what woudl the minimum card be to support it? |
| 04:38.25 | Abominable | Sk3letr0n is on Urban Jungle |
| 04:38.30 | trepan | (requires frag shaders + fbos, iirc) <-- |
| 04:38.49 | JeffM | so something in the 6k range? |
| 04:39.08 | a_meteorite | whoa trepan, what is that? |
| 04:39.15 | a_meteorite | that's not bzflag... is it? |
| 04:39.18 | JeffM | no |
| 04:39.20 | JeffM | it's shaders |
| 04:39.23 | a_meteorite | heh |
| 04:39.34 | trepan | but it could be, with relative little work |
| 04:39.51 | JeffM | trepan: if you can get down to the GF3 range then it may be just better to say that is the min requirement |
| 04:39.54 | trepan | (and weather effects, vol. fog, etc... would only be the beginning of what you could do) |
| 04:39.59 | JeffM | could even go for GF4 |
| 04:40.07 | trepan | min req. for bz? |
| 04:40.13 | JeffM | for those shaders yes |
| 04:40.26 | JeffM | blocking at the list is cheap and barely acceptable |
| 04:40.43 | trepan | huh? |
| 04:40.47 | JeffM | blanking the screen is not acceptable |
| 04:40.52 | JeffM | for systems that would not support this |
| 04:41.09 | JeffM | you are describing a feature we can not do on all our current systems |
| 04:41.25 | trepan | i'd mentionned a 'gfx capabilities' flag a very long time ago <-- |
| 04:41.46 | trepan | but you aren't cool with a list filter? |
| 04:41.50 | JeffM | yeah and we could use that to block those clients that don't have the caps from seeing the server |
| 04:41.59 | trepan | so why limit it to cards? |
| 04:41.59 | JeffM | it still seems cheap to me |
| 04:42.30 | trepan | hasVertShader, hasFragShader, has GLSL1.2, etc... |
| 04:42.39 | trepan | not has GF3, has GF4 |
| 04:42.50 | JeffM | if the capabilities are in older cards like a GF3 then I'd almost rather just increse our minimum requirements |
| 04:43.01 | trepan | min reqs. for what? |
| 04:43.07 | JeffM | I know trepan but I am just trying to get a sense of WHAT cards have those caps |
| 04:43.11 | JeffM | to run the game |
| 04:43.17 | trepan | who cares? |
| 04:43.19 | JeffM | you know what forget it |
| 04:43.22 | JeffM | have fun |
| 04:43.31 | trepan | always a pleasure |
| 04:43.41 | trepan | never worth the effort ;-) |
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| 04:43.55 | JeffM | ask a question, get back an enigma |
| 04:43.56 | JeffM | ... |
| 04:44.17 | JeffM | he's a smart guy, but not always the easiest to work with. |
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| 05:04.34 | JeffM | Winny, CBG , blast007 this is what I was working on, what your HTML helped me with, http://mirkwood.opencombat.net:1803/ |
| 05:06.18 | blast007 | weee, bzfs 1.7e0 on PS2 linux :P |
| 05:07.34 | a_meteorite | But does it blend? |
| 05:07.45 | a_meteorite | Seriously though, does it look any good...? |
| 05:07.50 | blast007 | bzfs |
| 05:07.52 | blast007 | not bzflag |
| 05:07.55 | a_meteorite | oh |
| 05:07.56 | blast007 | client wouldn't build |
| 05:08.08 | blast007 | (missing xf86vmode.h) |
| 05:08.09 | JeffM | opps, ww |
| 05:08.10 | a_meteorite | Well, does it host well? :) |
| 05:08.26 | blast007 | I didn't try... |
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| 05:32.54 | Winny | JeffM: ahh |
| 05:37.21 | Eleaf | hej |
| 05:39.50 | JeffM | Winny: what is scarry, is that is coming from an app named server.exe |
| 05:39.54 | JeffM | on bsd |
| 05:39.58 | Winny | >_< |
| 05:54.57 | blast007 | ;) |
| 05:55.35 | JeffM | now if only the bsd implementation didn't suck |
| 05:55.48 | JeffM | wont take an HTTP post, and seems to hang the connections |
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| 09:24.56 | CBG | ~L4m3r++ |
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| 11:22.09 | ts | ~seen JeffM |
| 11:22.09 | ibot | jeffm <n=Jeff@unaffiliated/jeffm> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 5h 26m 21s ago, saying: 'wont take an HTTP post, and seems to hang the connections'. |
| 11:53.24 | delusional_ | JeffM> ask a question, get back an enigma... I know the feeling when you're talking to trepan..... someone should ask him one more time if the wings exporter source exists |
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| 12:20.02 | Manu | ~seen ts |
| 12:20.05 | ibot | ts is currently on #bzflag (6d 7h 29m 58s) ##guleague (6d 7h 29m 58s). Has said a total of 1 messages. Is idling for 57m 56s, last said: '~seen JeffM'. |
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| 12:28.43 | mdskpr | hes cte |
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| 14:40.08 | hwilde | cheater on INCOMING that makes tks then the other people get kicked out by the server |
| 14:40.19 | hwilde | nickname is "Stupid" |
| 14:41.22 | hwilde | ban list updated yay |
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| 17:48.07 | CIA-50 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r18480 10/branches/v2_0branch/bzflag/src/bzfs/WorldEventManager.cxx: always set the event type on the data before we call the callbacks, just in case the caller was lazy and didn't set it. |
| 17:52.58 | CIA-50 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r18481 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzfs/WorldEventManager.cxx: always set the event type on the data before we call the callbacks, just in case the caller was lazy and didn't set it. |
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| 18:06.38 | CIA-50 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r18482 10/trunk/bzflag/ (include/bzfsAPI.h src/bzfs/bzfsAPI.cxx): expose team player caps to the API via bz_getTeamMaxPlayers |
| 18:20.40 | CIA-50 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r18483 10/trunk/bzflag/ (include/bzfsAPI.h src/bzfs/bzfsAPI.cxx): revert 18482 since we have that as bz_getTeamPlayerLimit already |
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| 19:02.44 | Flash | still doing branch mods? |
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| 19:23.21 | BulletCatcher | 2.0.x still gets "critical bug fixes" |
| 19:25.15 | spldart | occasionally. But it has to be pretty significant. |
| 19:25.24 | spldart | And you have to catch a sr. dev first |
| 19:26.00 | spldart | the last 2.0 bug fix I remember was a sr developer. So prolly wanna run it by them before commit |
| 19:26.07 | BulletCatcher | I think Flash was referring to r18480, which was committed while you were away, spldart. |
| 19:26.39 | spldart | looks up 18480 |
| 19:30.13 | spldart | Ah yeah... I saw jeff talking about that one. Sry about my confusion on topic ;) |
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| 22:09.12 | temp_dist | THANKS GSOC STUDENTS & MENTORS!!! |
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| 22:11.16 | delusional_ | THANKS GSOC STUDENTS! and MENTORS!. |
| 22:13.18 | CBG | THANK YOU GSOC MENTORS + STUDENTS!! |
| 22:23.54 | me1 | thank you gsoc students and mentors!!! |
| 22:24.01 | me1 | crap, caps lock was on |
| 22:24.52 | blast007 | lol |
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