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| 01:34.02 | AAA_awright | Is there any chance of a 2.0 release that gets your own score from MsgScore and not calculated otherwise? |
| 01:39.52 | JeffM | no |
| 01:39.58 | JeffM | because that would break compatability |
| 01:40.03 | JeffM | it is a proto change |
| 01:40.53 | Constitution | what's holding up a 3.0 release at this point? |
| 01:41.01 | JeffM | umm... stuff |
| 01:41.02 | JeffM | bughs |
| 01:41.15 | JeffM | it's inability to play properly |
| 01:41.21 | AAA_awright | JeffM: It wouldn't change anything though... I thought the client was sent it's own score, but ignores it |
| 01:41.40 | JeffM | AAA_awright, exactly, one client would behave difernetly then another |
| 01:42.03 | JeffM | so if you had new and I had old, if you get the update and use it, and I get an update and don't, then my score is not right |
| 01:42.04 | AAA_awright | That isn't breaking reverse compatibility though? |
| 01:42.22 | JeffM | it means you have a different game experience based on your client |
| 01:42.43 | JeffM | mostly we are just DONE with 2.0.x |
| 01:42.44 | JeffM | seriously |
| 01:42.51 | AAA_awright | Only if the clients score was set to something non-standard |
| 01:43.21 | JeffM | I mean if I play a game with one cleint then play with another on the same server, the events that happen would nto behave the same on each |
| 01:43.38 | JeffM | basicly stuff coudl get out of sync |
| 01:43.44 | JeffM | as it does now |
| 01:43.57 | AAA_awright | Scoring should behave the same if the server isn't doing anything nonstandard |
| 01:44.00 | JeffM | but yeah it dosn't break backwards compat, as it'll never get worse then it is now |
| 01:44.14 | JeffM | it just dosn't work the same for everyone |
| 01:44.42 | JeffM | I just don't see a point |
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| 01:59.34 | kwtm | Hi. How do I turn back on the explanations about the flags when I pick up a flag? E.g. if it's |
| 01:59.47 | kwtm | Machine GUn, it used to say "Very fast reload but very short range" |
| 01:59.54 | kwtm | How do I get these comments again? |
| 02:00.18 | kwtm | (Please mention my name kwtm in your reply so I know you're talking to me, in case I'm not watching this window) |
| 02:01.00 | eTangenT | kwtm: F |
| 02:01.28 | kwtm | eTangenT: Yup, I'm here (I just got blown up and am pausing) |
| 02:01.35 | kwtm | Oh, press "F"? Ok. |
| 02:01.37 | eTangenT | yer |
| 02:02.14 | kwtm | Oh, I see it! Thanks. I must have pressed it by accident. |
| 02:02.29 | kwtm | I keep wanting to type messages to other players without pressing N, so I end up pressing whatever |
| 02:02.34 | kwtm | keys are part of my message. |
| 02:02.47 | kwtm | Thanks for the help. See ya! |
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| 05:09.09 | JeffM | https server in C#... way easier then making the one in bzfs :) |
| 05:09.44 | blast007 | :) |
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| 05:10.01 | JeffM | tho I doubt I'd be able to hook this one up on the same port |
| 05:10.27 | JeffM | the new one is remarably similar to the C# on in the API |
| 05:11.15 | JeffM | guess I had a decent design if MS did it similarly ;) |
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| 14:51.10 | CIA-37 | BZFlag: 03kingofcamelot * r18478 10/branches/gsoc_server_listing/src/bzflag/ (4 files): Added in the color coding and modes from the original ServerMenu to the new and improved one. |
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| 22:05.55 | KingofCamelot | When do mentor evaluations have to be submitted, does anyone know? |
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| 22:26.13 | brlcad | KingofCamelot: same deadline, 1st |
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| 22:36.09 | TD-Linux | does anyone know who owns the 1purplepanzer.hopto.org:4611 server? |
| 22:36.26 | TD-Linux | anyway, there's an amazing cheater there if you want to come observe what one looks like :P |
| 22:36.40 | JBdiGriz | There's nothing amazing about cheaters. |
| 22:37.11 | Constitution | TD-Linux: my guess would be The Purple Panzer :P |
| 22:39.28 | spldart | me runs to see amazing :) |
| 22:43.21 | TD-Linux | he's gone now BTW, and isn't on any of the other big servers either |
| 22:43.24 | delusional | if you get an IP on that guy, let me know. |
| 22:44.03 | delusional | I'll restart that server with the regualr mofo banlists... it desnt have any of that right now. |
| 22:44.06 | TD-Linux | he is invincible, has zero reload time (he likes lasers...), and has high lag (400 ms +) |
| 22:44.14 | delusional | ..after it empties |
| 22:45.08 | blast007 | what's their callsign? |
| 22:47.01 | TD-Linux | JimBobIII |
| 22:49.59 | donny_baker | hmm wonder it that is Jelly/Sk3letr0n... he was just about |
| 22:50.06 | donny_baker | nif* |
| 22:50.51 | blast007 | man, this computer is really sad. Only getting like 20 to 50 FPS on that map at medium quality... with the res set to 320x240 (windowed) :( |
| 22:50.55 | blast007 | ~n |
| 22:50.55 | ibot | i guess n is the disease bzflag players get when they play too much. There is no cure. |
| 22:51.49 | JeffM2501 | what kinda crap machine is that? |
| 22:52.20 | a_temp_dist | mac |
| 22:52.36 | spldart | oroni and cheese |
| 22:57.15 | delusional | 208.100. |
| 22:57.27 | delusional | mega enchilada |
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| 22:59.24 | delusional | that's dial-up |
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| 23:03.15 | blast007 | JeffM2501: it's got an Intel 845 :P |
| 23:03.40 | JeffM2501 | eww |
| 23:03.40 | JeffM2501 | what CPU? |
| 23:03.50 | blast007 | Celly 2.4 |
| 23:04.03 | JeffM2501 | double eww |
| 23:04.29 | blast007 | yeah |
| 23:04.33 | blast007 | it's just a work machine |
| 23:06.49 | blast007 | our computers in general are kind of sad :) lots of K6/2 500MHz w/ 128MB RAM |
| 23:07.01 | JeffM2501 | what exactly do you do? |
| 23:07.18 | JeffM2501 | I feel bad that I have a core 2 duo 1.8 gig and a 6600GTX |
| 23:11.40 | blast007 | JeffM2501: it's a school |
| 23:12.25 | blast007 | so it's pretty much all we need |
| 23:13.41 | spldart | Man! I 'am' the underprivledged. hehe I got lots of old tech lying around burning kilowatt hours. |
| 23:15.46 | JeffM2501 | the 6600GTX kills me sometimes |
| 23:15.58 | JeffM2501 | I'm suposed to get a new machine at some point |
| 23:16.43 | Lukstr | waves |
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| 23:48.09 | Ratfink | Does anybody here know Python? |
| 23:48.38 | blast007 | I barely know it. Does that count? |
| 23:48.50 | CBG | I saw a grass snake once... |
| 23:49.05 | Ratfink | I need help with RatBZEdit. |
| 23:49.12 | JeffM2501 | #python empty or something? |
| 23:49.45 | Ratfink | Oops, didn't think to ask there. |
| 23:50.04 | blast007 | wowzers, lots of people there |
| 23:50.57 | Ratfink | If anybody here knows wxPython or PyOpenGL, I would like your help. |
| 23:51.15 | whodaman- | lol |
| 23:51.17 | JeffM2501 | what is your question? just how to use them? |
| 23:51.54 | Ratfink | I need sombody to help me make RatBZEdit. Not really a question... |
| 23:52.24 | JeffM2501 | too much to do or you just don't have the experience in those tools yet? |
| 23:52.42 | Ratfink | I don't know the first thing about OpenGL. |
| 23:52.50 | JeffM2501 | why not learn? |
| 23:53.03 | Ratfink | Can't find a PyOpenGL tutorial. |
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| 23:53.23 | JeffM2501 | then perhaps python isn't the best language to do open GL apps in |
| 23:53.52 | Ratfink | I think the API is the same for PyOpenGL and OpenGL. |
| 23:54.08 | Ratfink | But I'm not sure. |
| 23:54.08 | JeffM2501 | then the normal openGL tutorials should be fine for you |
| 23:54.25 | JeffM2501 | also you could look at how pybzedit did it |
| 23:54.30 | JeffM2501 | since it used openGL |
| 23:54.33 | JeffM2501 | or pybzflag |
| 23:54.44 | JeffM2501 | there are a number of examples in the dead codebases |
| 23:55.00 | Ratfink | Maybe PyBZEdit could help. |
| 23:55.18 | Ratfink | Although it doesn't run properly for me. |
| 23:55.26 | JeffM2501 | or you could work on bzworkbench |
| 23:55.48 | Ratfink | I don't know C++. |
| 23:55.59 | JeffM2501 | and learning it is a bad thing? |
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| 23:56.11 | Ratfink | No. |
| 23:56.18 | Ratfink | I just learned Python, though. |
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| 23:56.34 | Ratfink | And don't feel like learning C++ right now. |
| 23:56.44 | JeffM2501 | then it's a perfect time to learn another |
| 23:56.53 | JeffM2501 | honestly I don't think you are going to get that much help |
| 23:57.05 | Ratfink | By the way, what GUI toolkit are you using for BZWorkbench? |
| 23:57.12 | JeffM2501 | FLTK IIRC |
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| 23:58.16 | Ratfink1 | I'm back from the disconnect! |
| 23:58.48 | JeffM2501 | umm ok |
| 23:59.01 | Ratfink1 | And apparently, I'm now Ratfink1. |
| 23:59.07 | JeffM2501 | yep |
| 23:59.22 | Ratfink1 | /nick Ratfink doesn't work. |
| 23:59.28 | JeffM2501 | yep |
| 23:59.33 | JeffM2501 | cus it's still techincaly connected |
| 23:59.34 | whodaman- | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:59.35 | Winny | /ghost Ratfink password |
| 23:59.35 | whodaman- | does |
| 23:59.39 | whodaman- | haha Winny |
| 23:59.40 | JeffM2501 | as far as the server is concerened |
| 23:59.46 | Ratfink1 | Now I'm sad. |
| 23:59.46 | Winny | whodaman-: ? |
| 23:59.49 | JeffM2501 | did you register it? |
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