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| 00:00.42 | spldart | Stupid windows... I know my TB is full |
| 00:01.15 | pymike | yo I can't figure out how to make team bases |
| 00:02.04 | spldart | what part of base? |
| 00:02.10 | Constitution | http://my.bzflag.org/w/Base |
| 00:02.48 | spldart | OMG three people hit that link and it's nr |
| 00:03.17 | Constitution | ? |
| 00:03.40 | spldart | It was slow for a second right after the link |
| 00:03.44 | spldart | just kidding nstuff\ |
| 00:04.33 | Constitution | k :) |
| 00:04.45 | pymike | hmm |
| 00:05.21 | pymike | I'm doing that but the textures aren't showing up |
| 00:05.26 | spldart | and you set ctf option? |
| 00:05.45 | pymike | no |
| 00:05.57 | Constitution | -c |
| 00:06.00 | spldart | yeah |
| 00:06.01 | pymike | thx |
| 00:06.09 | spldart | I couldn't get bases without it last I tried |
| 00:06.14 | spldart | but that was hella long time ago |
| 00:08.40 | pymike | base was not defined for Green Team |
| 00:08.43 | pymike | ERROR: A world was not specified |
| 00:08.58 | spldart | You defined two bases? |
| 00:09.09 | spldart | I'm using color 1 and 3 for red and blue myself |
| 00:09.10 | pymike | yes |
| 00:09.17 | spldart | hrm |
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| 00:09.23 | pymike | oh I have 4 teams |
| 00:09.37 | spldart | You might have to pastebin that up and wait a bit for several peeps to poke thorugh it |
| 00:09.55 | pymike | k |
| 00:09.57 | spldart | feel free to just cut and paste the variables set and the bases with everythihg else cut |
| 00:10.05 | spldart | if your worried about your work being stolen |
| 00:10.26 | pymike | neh im not worried |
| 00:10.45 | pymike | http://pymike.pastebin.com/m6aa2138f |
| 00:11.59 | Constitution | ~mp |
| 00:12.00 | ibot | mp is, like, Northern Mariana Islands |
| 00:12.01 | spldart | did you set the -mp for your teams |
| 00:12.04 | Constitution | heh |
| 00:12.06 | spldart | Ah! |
| 00:12.07 | spldart | lol |
| 00:12.09 | spldart | const beat me |
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| 00:12.19 | divibot | Okay, I'm here. (courtesy of constitution) |
| 00:12.22 | Constitution | divibot mp |
| 00:12.22 | divibot | i guess mp is rogue,red,green,blue,purple,observers |
| 00:12.28 | divibot | Leaving. (courtesy of constitution). |
| 00:12.29 | *** part/#bzflag divibot (n=const@unaffiliated/macsforme/bot/divibot) |
| 00:12.34 | Constitution | there |
| 00:12.46 | pymike | -mp 0,5,5,5,5,5 |
| 00:12.56 | pymike | I did that... |
| 00:12.59 | Constitution | you need a base for every team you have players for |
| 00:13.02 | spldart | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:13.03 | me1 | the problem is with the bases |
| 00:13.09 | me1 | color 0 is wrong |
| 00:13.12 | me1 | its 1234 |
| 00:13.13 | pymike | I want 4 teams |
| 00:13.15 | spldart | true |
| 00:13.20 | pymike | I think I set 4 bases |
| 00:13.22 | spldart | 0 is not good |
| 00:13.25 | me1 | you did 0 1 2 3 |
| 00:13.29 | me1 | you need 1 2 3 4 |
| 00:13.31 | pymike | ohh |
| 00:13.32 | pymike | rofl |
| 00:13.38 | spldart | ~me1++ |
| 00:14.06 | me1 | ~karma |
| 00:14.06 | ibot | me1 has karma of 1 |
| 00:14.30 | pymike | ok how do I turn off ricochet? |
| 00:14.44 | Constitution | remove +r |
| 00:14.45 | spldart | I thought it was off by default? |
| 00:14.50 | spldart | heh |
| 00:18.44 | pymike | ok thx for the help ciao dudes |
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| 20:32.44 | *** topic/#bzflag is http://cia.vc/stats/project/BZFlag || http://my.BZFlag.org/w/Getting_Help || logs at http://ibot.rikers.org/%23bzflag/ || http://ohloh.net/projects/189 || 2.0.12 is the latest linux release, 2.0.10 for others || GSoC 2008, mentor blog at http://tanks4code.blogspot.com || GSOC participants: Time is up.. Thank you all for your hard work. |
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| 20:34.08 | MindstormsKid | ibot! |
| 20:34.34 | MindstormsKid | ~beer |
| 20:34.34 | ibot | ACTION has disconnected (Read error: 99 (Connection reset by beer)) |
| 20:35.02 | MindstormsKid | :P |
| 20:35.20 | JeffM | and you wonder why it gets broke all the time |
| 20:35.52 | Erroneous | Lukstr: each subdirectory needs a line added to configure also. perhaps you missed that one? |
| 20:36.12 | Lukstr | that's probably the one |
| 20:37.12 | Erroneous | search for AC_CONFIG_FILES |
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| 20:41.23 | Winny | wow that was weird |
| 20:41.31 | Winny | power went out but mac pro stayed on -_- |
| 20:41.39 | Winny | must have some serious capacitors |
| 20:45.17 | a_meteorite | for, what, a second? |
| 20:45.52 | Winny | more like 2-3 |
| 20:46.12 | Winny | wonders how that works |
| 20:46.54 | a_meteorite | well, most power supply hold up times are less than 100ms... |
| 20:47.07 | a_meteorite | much less than, I think like ~30ms-ish |
| 20:47.21 | Winny | hmm |
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| 21:54.49 | MindstormsKid | JeffM: ping |
| 21:54.55 | JeffM | sup? |
| 21:55.05 | MindstormsKid | zone problems :( |
| 21:55.31 | MindstormsKid | i put "good" as the zoneflag in a zone |
| 21:55.41 | MindstormsKid | however, i don't want the OO flag |
| 21:55.59 | MindstormsKid | so i set -f OO in the options, but it's still in the zone |
| 21:56.02 | JeffM | then dont' use good |
| 21:56.11 | JeffM | add the flags you want |
| 21:56.25 | MindstormsKid | i tried listing all the flags, but it didn't want to work |
| 21:56.34 | JeffM | what did it do? |
| 21:56.35 | MindstormsKid | hang on, i'll try again |
| 21:56.44 | MindstormsKid | it gave an error |
| 21:56.50 | JeffM | and that error was? |
| 21:57.00 | MindstormsKid | i added like two of each flag |
| 21:57.01 | JeffM | I left my mind reader hat in my other pants |
| 21:57.13 | MindstormsKid | normal error :P |
| 21:57.20 | MindstormsKid | i forget |
| 21:57.28 | JeffM | yeah when you want to actualy solve the problem. let me know |
| 21:57.48 | MindstormsKid | the "(blah) is not valid" one, i think |
| 21:58.03 | JeffM | get your info straight then let me know |
| 21:58.10 | JeffM | I don't have time today to second guess |
| 21:58.11 | MindstormsKid | ok |
| 21:58.14 | MindstormsKid | :| |
| 21:58.31 | MindstormsKid | well, i have to go, i'll tell you tonight.. |
| 21:59.08 | JeffM | why ask a question with no info, when you know you have to leave? |
| 21:59.12 | JeffM | kids these days |
| 22:00.03 | spldart | :-) |
| 22:00.35 | JeffM | goes back to fixing flow hopping |
| 22:00.40 | mdskpr | JeffM, did u moderate any of my images? |
| 22:00.59 | JeffM | ummm.. no? |
| 22:01.07 | JeffM | I don't get notfied when there are new ones |
| 22:01.22 | mdskpr | JeffM, oh who else does moderation besides blast007 |
| 22:01.29 | JeffM | a couple people |
| 22:01.33 | JeffM | somone will get to them |
| 22:01.59 | mdskpr | JeffM, no its the fact that somebody deleted them |
| 22:02.11 | JeffM | were they rejected? |
| 22:02.25 | mdskpr | JeffM, no idea |
| 22:02.39 | JeffM | you should have goten an email back if they were |
| 22:02.43 | JeffM | check your spam folder |
| 22:02.49 | mdskpr | ohk |
| 22:02.58 | JeffM | you have 2 in the que? |
| 22:03.59 | delusional_ | one in the spam is worth 2 in the queue |
| 22:04.15 | spldart | heh |
| 22:04.32 | mdskpr | JeffM, yeah they were rejected but for this reason: |
| 22:04.32 | mdskpr | Rejection Reason: |
| 22:04.32 | mdskpr | License selected (other - CC-by-nc-sa) is not an approved license. |
| 22:04.32 | mdskpr | The site indicates, however, that it\'s CC-by which is one of our |
| 22:04.34 | mdskpr | approved licenses. reupload with the correct license selected. |
| 22:05.01 | mdskpr | the other one was rejected because: CC-by-nc-nd is not an approved license. Needs to be CC-by or CC-by-sa |
| 22:05.02 | mdskpr | only. |
| 22:05.02 | JeffM | ahh you picked the wrong licesen |
| 22:05.16 | mdskpr | JeffM, ok which one should i choose ? |
| 22:05.34 | JeffM | the one it's licensed under |
| 22:05.57 | JeffM | for the firts you you bicked -nc -sa but the image actualy is just cc -by |
| 22:06.12 | JeffM | the other is -nc -nd is not on our list |
| 22:06.17 | JeffM | tho I think I can get that changed. |
| 22:06.29 | mdskpr | ok but the website has a link at the bottom of the page : http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/ |
| 22:06.33 | mdskpr | and that is the one i used |
| 22:06.41 | mdskpr | and that is the one they use |
| 22:07.07 | mdskpr | the free3dstextures.com one |
| 22:07.20 | JeffM | yeah, and you said in our software that it was CC-by-nc-sa |
| 22:07.28 | JeffM | when iit is simply CC -by |
| 22:07.36 | JeffM | you picked the worng item in our pulldown |
| 22:07.41 | mdskpr | ok |
| 22:07.57 | mdskpr | which one is -by CC or CC-sharealike? |
| 22:08.02 | JeffM | for the second one, we don't have a license choice for CC-by-nc-nd |
| 22:08.08 | JeffM | SA = share alike |
| 22:08.17 | JeffM | -by is CC atribition only |
| 22:08.18 | mdskpr | ohk |
| 22:08.35 | mdskpr | one was updated |
| 22:08.37 | mdskpr | *uploaded |
| 22:09.33 | mdskpr | the second one is now uploaded |
| 22:10.08 | JeffM | ok... did you actualy listen to what I said? |
| 22:10.17 | mdskpr | i think so it was a little confusing |
| 22:10.23 | JeffM | you didn't |
| 22:10.26 | mdskpr | oh |
| 22:10.42 | JeffM | you can't just pick a license on our stuff that close to the actual licese |
| 22:10.44 | JeffM | it has to MATCH |
| 22:10.54 | JeffM | exactly |
| 22:10.56 | JeffM | all the terms |
| 22:11.00 | JeffM | all the names, etc.. |
| 22:11.17 | mdskpr | oh so i have to do OSI approved and then say the license name and URL? |
| 22:11.18 | JeffM | you basicly asked us to CHANGE the license on someone elses work |
| 22:11.32 | JeffM | that would be one way |
| 22:12.33 | mdskpr | oh sry |
| 22:12.59 | JeffM | actualy we can't do the -nd -nc one |
| 22:13.04 | JeffM | so don't do that one |
| 22:13.16 | mdskpr | ok |
| 22:13.24 | JeffM | the images looked simple |
| 22:13.26 | JeffM | just make your own |
| 22:13.49 | mdskpr | ok |
| 22:13.54 | mdskpr | using gimp? |
| 22:14.05 | JeffM | that's not for here |
| 22:15.11 | JeffM | I'm for allowing -nc and -nd on images.bz |
| 22:15.23 | JeffM | but I think we need to refine the wizard based image uploader first |
| 22:15.41 | JeffM | more people are trying to use license now |
| 22:15.45 | JeffM | and that's great |
| 22:15.57 | JeffM | but people seem to have trouble understanding what they can and can not do |
| 22:16.15 | mdskpr | yeah |
| 22:16.23 | Erroneous | there's some question as to whether we want to host images that are incompatible with bzflag's license or not |
| 22:16.29 | JeffM | true |
| 22:16.46 | JeffM | tho as long as it allows redistrobution we techincaly CAN host it |
| 22:16.56 | JeffM | the question comes down to if we want to do a map pack |
| 22:17.03 | mdskpr | oh |
| 22:17.20 | Erroneous | if we don't care about being able to distribute the images with bzflag, -nc/-nd is ok. if we want to be able to redistribute it as a package, they're not |
| 22:17.28 | JeffM | if our database soultion can handle spliting them at pack time, I don't see any reason to not host -nd and -nc works |
| 22:17.36 | Erroneous | can it? |
| 22:17.49 | JeffM | yeah It can I belive |
| 22:18.02 | JeffM | each image has an entry for it's license |
| 22:18.14 | JeffM | it would be trivial to write something that pulled all the compatables out and packed em up |
| 22:18.35 | JeffM | the big question would be if a comerical server went and used a -nc work |
| 22:18.40 | JeffM | but then that becomes there issue |
| 22:18.48 | JeffM | as we had it licensed correctly |
| 22:19.11 | brlcad | also, is it even worth the hassle when there are plenty of images to choose from (or just make your own and license it accordingly) |
| 22:19.29 | JeffM | I think a lot of imaes will be -nd |
| 22:19.30 | brlcad | i'd opt for the hassle-free route myself, screw the nc licenses :) |
| 22:19.38 | JeffM | I can see reasons for -nc |
| 22:19.47 | JeffM | -nd is the crux I think |
| 22:20.19 | brlcad | they both have the exact same hassle |
| 22:20.28 | JeffM | but for less people |
| 22:20.38 | JeffM | I'm ok with the hassle as long as we automated it |
| 22:20.43 | brlcad | but I mean from our perspective, there's no reason to allow one and not the other |
| 22:20.45 | JeffM | cus it's not like we've done a map pack YET ;) |
| 22:20.49 | brlcad | it's really allow both or neither |
| 22:20.51 | JeffM | ok |
| 22:20.53 | JeffM | I'm for both |
| 22:21.15 | Erroneous | I'd tend to agree. I mean, we'll already have to filter out the preexisting unkown-license ones |
| 22:21.16 | JeffM | so for now the hastle is 0 |
| 22:21.23 | JeffM | yeah |
| 22:21.36 | Erroneous | is typoing like mad today |
| 22:21.39 | JeffM | and it's not like bzflag is setup to just accept a map pack |
| 22:21.56 | JeffM | there would have to be work to make it search a map pack dir before cache, etc... |
| 22:22.03 | JeffM | so when that time comes, we have hastle |
| 22:22.18 | brlcad | ideally the web interface would make it easier to week out the variants |
| 22:22.24 | JeffM | indeed |
| 22:22.27 | Erroneous | yup |
| 22:22.28 | brlcad | s/week/weed/ too |
| 22:22.32 | JeffM | blast has been working on the web interface a lot |
| 22:22.40 | JeffM | so work is going to be done there |
| 22:22.40 | Erroneous | it's a lot better than it was |
| 22:22.42 | brlcad | noticed the new field |
| 22:22.57 | JeffM | I've gone over my ideas with him for a wizard based system |
| 22:23.04 | JeffM | where it asks you "is this a derived work"? |
| 22:23.18 | JeffM | and then helps you get the fields right |
| 22:23.21 | Erroneous | do we have any quick way to add field data to existing images? |
| 22:23.31 | JeffM | I belive so |
| 22:23.32 | brlcad | I have my doubts they'd understand the issues even with a wizard |
| 22:23.45 | brlcad | given how many seem to make random selections |
| 22:23.48 | JeffM | brlcad, it wont' be perfect, but I think it will help more people |
| 22:24.12 | JeffM | I'm going to write up the text in kid speak :) |
| 22:25.04 | JeffM | Erroneous, each dir has it's own sqlite database and I belive each image has a record |
| 22:25.09 | JeffM | so we can add records to them |
| 22:25.13 | Erroneous | if you write up very much, you will also need a disclaimer that we aren't distributing legal advice |
| 22:25.17 | brlcad | would need to be like web-based taxes -- does your image contain a depiction or picture of a real person? .. did you create the image? .. is it a picture of you? .. etc |
| 22:25.32 | JeffM | Erroneous, I know. I will mostly provide examples |
| 22:25.36 | Erroneous | heh...make it like taxes...isn't that a lovely idea... |
| 22:25.40 | JeffM | like "here is where to look for copyright" |
| 22:25.53 | brlcad | Erroneous: like *filing* web-based taxes .. :) |
| 22:25.56 | JeffM | brlcad, yeah that's the goal |
| 22:26.00 | brlcad | which is pretty simple compared to the paper route |
| 22:26.10 | Erroneous | hm, might have to try that sometime then |
| 22:26.18 | Erroneous | still fills out 1040 in pdf form |
| 22:26.22 | JeffM | oh it's awesome |
| 22:26.31 | JeffM | we even get a discount via turbo tax |
| 22:26.35 | JeffM | cus of fidelity |
| 22:26.54 | JeffM | pffff, turbo tax just grabs your info from fidelity |
| 22:27.07 | JeffM | it's cool, and scary at the same time |
| 22:27.08 | JeffM | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:27.19 | JeffM | but back to images |
| 22:27.23 | JeffM | how bout this |
| 22:27.24 | Erroneous | the w-2 is a tiny part of the information necessary, sadly |
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| 22:27.37 | JeffM | we say no -nd or -nc untill we have the next round of uploader changes |
| 22:27.49 | brlcad | by paper used to be hell for me, 5-7 forms depending on the year .. would take approx 8-10 hours (and I knew exactly what I was doing) |
| 22:28.23 | JeffM | perhaps we can even convince blast to give us a "make map pack" feature |
| 22:28.44 | brlcad | one year came down to an hour before deadline, went on-line and found an e-filer and ended up answering *everything* in less than half an hour (and the final forms exactly matched my hand-prepared ones) |
| 22:29.05 | Erroneous | hm, cool |
| 22:29.29 | JeffM | Erroneous, I do mine online every year, I'll show you next year |
| 22:29.42 | JeffM | I do em on like the 15th of january |
| 22:29.52 | Erroneous | I know...but I also get the impression that yours are easier than mine, regardless :P |
| 22:30.08 | JeffM | probaby |
| 22:30.27 | JeffM | if you have an investement company they often grab the info from that too |
| 22:30.34 | JeffM | same for morgage, etc.. |
| 22:31.28 | JeffM | still hungers :( |
| 22:33.48 | brlcad | hm, another consideration is that the -nd and -nc licenses are not OSI-approvable licenses -- at least -nd isn't osi-approvable given the ability to create derivative works is part of the OSS definition |
| 22:34.48 | brlcad | supporting *any* non-OSI license (in any way) is a pretty big step from a philosophical stand-point (not that I'm for or against, it just is what it is) |
| 22:35.53 | JeffM | techincaly we suport non-osi aproved licesense for some of our data |
| 22:36.03 | JeffM | as in we don't give out our database of users etc.. |
| 22:36.21 | JeffM | that's the problem with games on linux I fear, they are going to have to accept that -nd is there for artwork |
| 22:36.51 | JeffM | going back to that mentor summit discussion of content creation |
| 22:36.55 | JeffM | artitsis don't want to licnese like software |
| 22:37.52 | brlcad | we don't distribute our database of users either |
| 22:37.59 | brlcad | and it's personal data in many respects |
| 22:38.03 | JeffM | indeed |
| 22:38.03 | brlcad | the images aren't |
| 22:38.13 | JeffM | well we dont' distribute them as part of the project |
| 22:38.22 | JeffM | nothing says we can't have more then one thing we support |
| 22:38.43 | brlcad | that's probably arguable given we redistribute from our resources (instead of where the user found them) |
| 22:39.05 | JeffM | we redistribute sure |
| 22:39.11 | JeffM | but that is part of those license |
| 22:39.34 | JeffM | the arguable part would be that by default we could send -nd and -nc data to a user |
| 22:39.39 | JeffM | that I can see a case for |
| 22:40.05 | JeffM | since we have no way of filtering for the end user |
| 22:40.14 | JeffM | for that we'd need a big change |
| 22:40.36 | JeffM | but then I guess the same goes for firefox, it allows people to see images of every kind |
| 22:40.46 | JeffM | with no filtering other then "dont' go there" |
| 22:40.50 | brlcad | i just think it unnecessarily complicates matters -- for all the practical problems, we're not at the situation where there is someone wanting to use something unique that is -nd or -nc that couldn't be easily created or changed |
| 22:40.59 | JeffM | sure |
| 22:41.17 | JeffM | ok so we just need to put a notice that says no -nd or -nc images |
| 22:41.20 | brlcad | if someone had a strong case for us needing to support them, that'd be different |
| 22:41.23 | JeffM | and then check and see if any have goten in |
| 22:41.35 | JeffM | I'm fine with that as long as we have it marked somewhere |
| 22:41.54 | brlcad | maybe blast007 can add a notice to the page? |
| 22:42.04 | JeffM | heh, any of us probalby can |
| 22:42.14 | JeffM | but I'll try to remmeber to go over it with him tonight |
| 22:42.21 | brlcad | s/can/would/ :P |
| 22:42.29 | brlcad | of course we all can :) |
| 22:42.48 | JeffM | has to crawl in the attic tonight :/ |
| 22:42.58 | brlcad | has to eat today |
| 22:43.09 | JeffM | go forth and feed! |
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| 22:57.47 | delusional_ | what do you mean " -nd or -nc licenses" I've googled and i still cant find it. it's not on the image uploader page either. |
| 22:58.10 | brlcad | CC licenses |
| 22:58.18 | delusional_ | ok |
| 22:58.20 | brlcad | nd is no-derivatives |
| 22:58.29 | delusional_ | ty |
| 22:58.31 | brlcad | nc is non-commercial use only |
| 22:58.50 | JeffM | the concept applies for non CC licenses that have similar restrictions |
| 22:58.56 | delusional_ | those are the ones that have always been a problem |
| 22:59.04 | delusional_ | yes |
| 22:59.57 | brlcad | the two CC's we presently list are CC-by and CC-by-sa .. which equate roughly to the bsd and lgpl respectively |
| 23:00.20 | delusional_ | it's a jungle out there http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_free_software_licences |
| 23:00.49 | delusional_ | people cant even agree how to spell licence |
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| 23:18.27 | MindstormsKid | JeffM: ping |
| 23:18.47 | pacman87 | ~ask |
| 23:18.47 | ibot | somebody said ask was Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic. Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Don't ask if a person is there; just ask what you intended to ask them. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. We are all here voluntarily or against our will. |
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| 23:19.18 | MindstormsKid | hates that kind command, but oh well |
| 23:19.33 | MindstormsKid | *kind of |
| 23:20.05 | pacman87 | jeff's not the only one who can answer questions around here |
| 23:20.11 | MindstormsKid | if i put "zoneflag CL 2 G 1 GM 4 IB 2 L 1 MG 2 MQ 1 N 1 F 1 SE 1 SH 1 SW 1 ST 2 SR 1 SB 1 TH 1 T 2 WG 1" in a zone, it will only have two CLs.. |
| 23:20.16 | MindstormsKid | not all the others |
| 23:20.27 | MindstormsKid | how can i fix it? |
| 23:20.37 | pacman87 | put them all on their own line |
| 23:20.55 | MindstormsKid | hrm |
| 23:20.59 | MindstormsKid | tries |
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| 23:21.37 | pacman87 | might be wrong, it's been a long time since i've put flags on a map |
| 23:21.58 | JeffM | yeah it sone zoneflag call per flag |
| 23:22.12 | JeffM | or flag type if you use numbers |
| 23:22.36 | MindstormsKid | same thing |
| 23:22.39 | MindstormsKid | two CL |
| 23:22.54 | MindstormsKid | but now many errors |
| 23:23.00 | JeffM | what is one of the errors? |
| 23:23.27 | MindstormsKid | i'll pastbin |
| 23:24.11 | MindstormsKid | http://pastebin.com/m3704ce5a |
| 23:24.47 | JeffM | what is on line 63 of your map? |
| 23:25.05 | pacman87 | did you put 'zoneflag' at the start of each line? |
| 23:26.02 | MindstormsKid | no |
| 23:26.05 | MindstormsKid | XD |
| 23:26.22 | MindstormsKid | tries |
| 23:26.39 | MindstormsKid | JeffM: no idea, i'm using notepad :P |
| 23:26.51 | pacman87 | try notepad++ |
| 23:26.55 | JeffM | I bet its 'g' |
| 23:27.12 | MindstormsKid | hmm? |
| 23:27.27 | JeffM | add the word ZoneFlag before each line |
| 23:28.00 | MindstormsKid | did it, testing... |
| 23:28.14 | mdskpr | this should be on ##bzw |
| 23:28.23 | JeffM | mdskpr, why |
| 23:28.26 | MindstormsKid | nobody is there :P |
| 23:28.27 | JeffM | it is a bzflag question |
| 23:28.36 | JeffM | ##bzw is a third party channel |
| 23:28.46 | MindstormsKid | and anyway, the people who are there don't know |
| 23:28.49 | MindstormsKid | (i asked) |
| 23:28.54 | MindstormsKid | :) |
| 23:28.55 | pacman87 | MindstormsKid: notepad++ http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=95717&package_id=102072 |
| 23:29.01 | MindstormsKid | JeffM, it worked |
| 23:29.04 | JeffM | good |
| 23:29.12 | MindstormsKid | pacman87: ok |
| 23:29.20 | MindstormsKid | edits wikipedia |
| 23:29.24 | MindstormsKid | *the wiki |
| 23:29.41 | MindstormsKid | it says to do it the wrong way.. |
| 23:29.54 | pacman87 | ~MindstormsKid++ |
| 23:30.01 | JeffM | only the sample is wrong |
| 23:30.06 | MindstormsKid | yeah |
| 23:30.10 | MindstormsKid | edits.. |
| 23:30.13 | JeffM | the item should simply say that it's one per flag |
| 23:30.56 | Winny | is now known as donny |
| 23:31.11 | MindstormsKid | is it the same with "flag"? |
| 23:31.17 | JeffM | probably |
| 23:31.23 | MindstormsKid | ok |
| 23:31.34 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o donny_baker] by ChanServ |
| 23:31.36 | MindstormsKid | will change that, too |
| 23:32.03 | MindstormsKid | hrm |
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| 23:32.29 | donny_baker | hates comcast |
| 23:32.38 | mdskpr | because bzw is for bzw map help |
| 23:32.51 | JeffM | mdskpr, not offiicaly |
| 23:32.55 | mdskpr | oh |
| 23:33.08 | JeffM | it is just some channel someone setup |
| 23:34.02 | MindstormsKid | i already asked in there, anyway.. |
| 23:37.34 | MindstormsKid | done |
| 23:38.06 | JeffM | fixes |
| 23:38.40 | MindstormsKid | ? |
| 23:39.05 | JeffM | style |
| 23:39.27 | JeffM | in general articles should be descriptive and not go into personal tense |
| 23:39.33 | JeffM | but good job on it |
| 23:40.03 | MindstormsKid | :) |