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| 00:25.35 | Flash | bugQ: ./configure --enable-freetype-build |
| 00:25.55 | bugQ | oh dur, this happened before |
| 00:25.57 | bugQ | thanks |
| 00:26.33 | Flash | check README.MacOSX |
| 00:28.25 | Flash | line 66 |
| 00:28.33 | bugQ | ya |
| 00:35.07 | AHA | Why do i keep getting "error C2471: cannot update program database 'c:\users\matthew\desktop\bzflag\src\bzflag\debug\vc90.pdb'" when trying to compile? |
| 00:45.07 | bugQ | ok, now it's ../../include/bzfSDL.h:24:21: error: SDL.h: No such file or directory |
| 00:46.06 | bugQ | I have SDL.framework, and SDL.h is in there |
| 00:46.18 | AHA | Heh, i get that error with the latest svn branch, but not with 2.0.10's source |
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| 02:57.08 | Flash | Hi honey, I'm home. Miss me? |
| 02:57.30 | a_meteorite | I missed you so much! |
| 02:57.49 | CBG | hey daddy |
| 02:58.03 | a_meteorite | now that's creepy |
| 02:58.10 | CBG | what is mommy? |
| 02:58.11 | Flash | hmmph. The usual cast of miscreants |
| 02:59.25 | CBG | "Daddy has sores on his genitals oozing with puss!" |
| 02:59.42 | a_meteorite | wtf. |
| 02:59.52 | CBG | sorry, just singing... |
| 03:00.04 | a_meteorite | I hope you're in the wrong channel. |
| 03:00.09 | a_meteorite | Please. |
| 03:00.14 | CBG | can't sing here? |
| 03:10.56 | AAA_awright | ... |
| 03:12.49 | Flash | sends CBG to ##mofo |
| 03:13.09 | CBG | on my own? :/ |
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| 11:10.53 | Constitution | what does declaring a member function const do, and what's the difference between putting "const" at the beginning versus the end of the declaration? |
| 11:11.13 | Constitution | for instance, const PlayerId &getPlayer() const; |
| 11:21.50 | brlcad | const PlayerId & means that the reference being returned is const and cannot be modified |
| 11:22.07 | brlcad | the const at the end of the decl means that getPlayer does not modify data for the class it is contained in |
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| 11:23.35 | Constitution | what does the second const accomplish? |
| 11:24.06 | Constitution | some compiler optimization? |
| 11:25.53 | brlcad | it's a contractual design declaration -- I know as a caller that I can call that function and the object won't change |
| 11:26.51 | Constitution | ok thanks |
| 11:29.09 | brlcad | similarly, it's a hint to the compiler that it the function not only "should not" but can't modify that object, or call any other method that will modify that object |
| 11:30.00 | Dontkillmyimabeg | is on windows an better compiler as Microsoft Visual Studio 2005++? |
| 11:30.06 | brlcad | that does imply some subtle optimization possibilities given there's a guarantee that some of the data is immutable, but the main point is just to be clear about what does and does not modify what |
| 11:30.38 | brlcad | if something doesn't modify, it (really) should get marked const |
| 11:31.02 | brlcad | likewise, if the data being returned shouldn't be messed with, it should be const |
| 11:31.32 | Constitution | okay |
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| 11:39.25 | brlcad | note that marking a return value on an intrinsic type (char, int, float, double) as const is meaningless as it's just a value. It's pointers and references that can benefit. |
| 11:41.33 | Constitution | oh |
| 12:00.13 | jorgenpt | brlcad: int const * const getPlayerIds(const int) const; |
| 12:11.26 | brlcad | jorgenpt: what about it? |
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| 12:12.35 | brlcad | that's not an intrinsic, that's a pointer to one .. so it benefits |
| 12:13.33 | brlcad | my point was that having something like: const int getId(const int) const; is pointless (the first const is pointless) |
| 12:14.34 | Chestal | the second const ther ein get PlayerIds is meaningless in the same sense, though |
| 12:14.51 | Chestal | wow, so many typos in one line :-) |
| 12:14.56 | brlcad | true :) |
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| 12:28.52 | jorgenpt | brlcad: 'twas just a joke ;) |
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| 13:09.51 | CIA-36 | BZFlag: 03macsforme * r18293 10/branches/gsoc_collisions/ (16 files in 3 dirs): Stripped more client-only code out of SegmentedShotStrategy. |
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| 14:41.13 | spldart | Dude! Why are so many major corporate entities making their website windows/IE compatible only?!? I have had to install IE on debian already but now they are making it so you have to have custom weird apps galore installed in the background so the IE browser can use their site. |
| 14:42.58 | Viza | "major coporate entities" |
| 14:43.03 | Viza | you answered your own question :p |
| 14:43.40 | spldart | Why? What does Sony, Panasonic and Samsung owe Microsquash? |
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| 14:50.31 | Viza | spldart, just that big corporations tend to do stupid things like that |
| 14:51.18 | spldart | I guess I'm suffering a pipe dream when I imagine a world one day not dominated my MS. |
| 14:53.00 | spldart | throws another log of cynicism on the fire. |
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| 15:00.26 | Viza | i'm not sure if it's a good idea to have all those MS noob users on Linux |
| 15:09.35 | spldart | Some could use Mac :) |
| 15:13.30 | BulletCatcher | FTGL devs, my upstream patch for enhanced "make maintainer-clean" support is at https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=2039757&group_id=202130&atid=980351 |
| 15:13.33 | BulletCatcher | I'll apply the same to BZFlag if it is accepted. |
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| 15:48.49 | Cobra_Fast | hey |
| 15:48.57 | Cobra_Fast | where can i get a logger from? |
| 15:52.17 | AHA | what do you mean "logger"? |
| 15:53.34 | blast007 | Cobra_Fast: most "loggers" are just bzadmin clients |
| 15:53.42 | Cobra_Fast | yeah |
| 15:53.51 | Cobra_Fast | but how can i run bzadmin in background? |
| 15:54.07 | Winny | just have bzfs pipe the output to a logfile |
| 15:54.28 | Winny | bzfs [options] -dd >> /path/to/logfile.txt |
| 15:54.38 | Cobra_Fast | i know |
| 15:54.44 | Cobra_Fast | but i want bzadmin to run |
| 15:54.52 | Cobra_Fast | and bzadmin & doesnt work properly |
| 15:55.14 | AHA | run it in a screen |
| 15:55.15 | Winny | why do you want to use bzadmin? It doesn't capture private chat or team messages |
| 15:55.29 | Cobra_Fast | to get the server full ;) |
| 15:55.33 | AHA | ... |
| 15:55.48 | Winny | yeah, that's not the reason to do it |
| 15:56.16 | Cobra_Fast | ^^ |
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| 22:51.21 | delusional | jeffm I'm getting reports that the modeltool download from the forum will not operate... this is the error he's giving me (Vista) " This application has failed to start beacuse MSVCP71.dll was not found. Re-installing the application may fix this problem." |
| 22:51.34 | delusional | what should i tell him? install vc71? |
| 22:52.05 | delusional | he's using command prompt, is that enough? or should he go with putty, or some other terminal. |
| 22:53.16 | JeffM | you just need the DLL |
| 22:53.24 | JeffM | why would you use putty? |
| 22:53.38 | JeffM | the DLLs are in the bzflag dir |
| 22:53.39 | delusional | idunno.. i don't do windoze, myself. |
| 22:54.06 | delusional | exactly which dll's? |
| 22:54.07 | JeffM | putty is an SSH app |
| 22:54.12 | JeffM | the ones it says it's missing |
| 22:54.29 | JeffM | I figured anyone using model tool would have bz, so they can just grab them from there |
| 22:54.37 | JeffM | if they don't have them installed |
| 22:55.01 | delusional | oh.. i thought the forum download was sufficient. |
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| 22:56.13 | JeffM2501 | it could be on some systems |
| 22:56.23 | JeffM2501 | vista dosn't ship with the older VC71 runtimes |
| 22:57.00 | Abominable | So does that mean it can't be used or can't run on vista? |
| 22:57.29 | spldart | ? just get the .dll nstuff |
| 22:57.47 | JeffM2501 | sure it can |
| 22:57.58 | JeffM2501 | just grab the msvc dlls from the bzflag install |
| 22:58.06 | Abominable | and put them where? |
| 22:58.07 | JeffM2501 | or throw model tool into the bzflag install dir |
| 22:58.15 | JeffM2501 | they just have to be wherever the exe is |
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| 22:58.33 | Abominable | In the same folder? that's sufficient? |
| 22:58.35 | delusional | ok. |
| 22:58.38 | delusional | i got it |
| 22:58.42 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 22:59.29 | Abominable | Thanks JeffM |
| 23:05.17 | JeffM2501 | you can also throw the dlls in the system folder, then all apps that need them could use them |
| 23:05.27 | JeffM2501 | or install the VC7.1 runtime package |
| 23:05.32 | JeffM2501 | but same dir is simpler |
| 23:13.50 | spldart | I've always prefered system dir but that's just me heh |
| 23:32.15 | JeffM2501 | not everyone may have access to that |
| 23:32.35 | JeffM2501 | probalby should just set it up to link em static |
| 23:32.37 | JeffM2501 | as it's a standalone |
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| 23:35.59 | JeffM2501 | bahh, it links with regex and I don't want to make that static |
| 23:36.10 | JeffM2501 | I'll just hav to zip it with runtimes next time then |
| 23:46.57 | delusional | i never updated the mac build after the shininess bug fix |
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| 23:57.22 | Objologist | hi folks |
| 23:58.26 | JeffM2501 | hello |