| 00:11.45 | brad | JeffM: july 08 I presume |
| 00:12.04 | JeffM | were you building trunk or brancH? |
| 00:14.38 | brad | JeffM: branch (2.0.13) |
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| 00:39.01 | JeffM | DTRemenak: ping |
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| 01:27.24 | blast007 | Epyon: did the BZWGen texture license issues get sorted out yet? |
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| 01:56.37 | Blizzard- | pacman87: ping |
| 01:56.44 | pacman87 | Blizzard-: pong |
| 01:56.57 | spldart | watches wagging head back and forth |
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| 02:35.57 | pacman87 | the registration link from msvc2005ee is giving me: "Secure connection: fatal error (554)" |
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| 03:03.51 | blast007 | pacman87: do you *have* to register MSVC 2005 EE? |
| 03:04.35 | pacman87 | they gave me a big scary warning saying i should |
| 03:05.10 | blast007 | well, then tell them their stuff is broke, or try later |
| 03:05.50 | pacman87 | and the links to the platform sdk and the directX sdk in README.WIN32 are broken |
| 03:05.55 | pacman87 | just fyi |
| 03:07.09 | pacman87 | platform sdk: http://www.microsoft.com/express/2005/platformsdk/default.aspx |
| 03:09.38 | pacman87 | directX sdk: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=86cf7fa2-e953-475c-abde-f016e4f7b61a&DisplayLang=en |
| 03:09.52 | pacman87 | though i'm not sure if that link will work for anyone else |
| 03:10.50 | blast007 | pacman87: which version of the code are you looking at? |
| 03:10.55 | pacman87 | branch |
| 03:12.47 | pacman87 | 2.0.13 |
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| 03:23.51 | pacman87 | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:28.08 | blast007 | ah, fun |
| 03:28.20 | blast007 | guess that's another reason why I have the full Visual Studio :) |
| 03:29.00 | spldart | And a reason why I get alot of MS spam in my hotmail account |
| 03:31.57 | blast007 | hmm, though I guess I do have C# 2008 EE |
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| 03:36.10 | pacman87 | i was going to try using my registration code from last time i installed it, but i dont sign into hotmail often enough, so they deleted all my mail |
| 03:37.35 | spldart | oop |
| 03:37.37 | spldart | ss |
| 03:37.43 | spldart | I was wondering if that works |
| 03:37.44 | spldart | hehe |
| 03:37.49 | spldart | but I guess I still wonder |
| 03:42.06 | pacman87 | i could try your registration code, if your that interested... |
| 03:42.08 | blast007 | pacman87: just reinstall Windows and VCEE2005 every 30 days ;) |
| 03:46.27 | spldart | :-p |
| 03:55.48 | KingofCamelot | pacman87, are you a college student? |
| 03:56.16 | pacman87 | KingofCamelot: yes |
| 03:56.30 | KingofCamelot | Then you can download the full version of MSVC 2005 for free |
| 03:56.42 | pacman87 | link? |
| 03:57.48 | KingofCamelot | One sec, gotta find it |
| 03:57.52 | spldart | yeeesh |
| 03:58.48 | KingofCamelot | downloads.channel8.msdn.com/ |
| 04:00.42 | pacman87 | ~KingofCamelot++ |
| 04:02.17 | KingofCamelot | It's how I got mine. :) |
| 04:02.34 | pacman87 | how did they check your student status? |
| 04:03.11 | KingofCamelot | I did it through Journeyed.com, where you do a 'purchase' and they check your student status that way. I don't remember for sure, it was a few months ago |
| 04:04.20 | pacman87 | ...that was easy |
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| 04:33.56 | KingofCamelot | Did it work for you pacman87? |
| 04:43.04 | pacman87 | yes, dl'ing the isos now |
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| 07:16.30 | KingofCamelot | Since I can't seem to get in touch with DTRemenak, the only person who I think would really get what I'm asking, I'll just ask out here. :P Does anyone forsee any problems with me adding a callback method to ServerList to do callbacks whenever a new server is added to the ServerList? |
| 07:28.36 | BulletCatcher | KingofCamelot: I haven't been following your work, but let me ask a couple of questions. If *you* are satisfied with the answers, then it ought to be okay. |
| 07:29.46 | BulletCatcher | First, what will use the callbacks? Do they actually need to be callbacks or can they just be ordinary methods? |
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| 07:30.40 | BulletCatcher | (okay, that is both questions) |
| 07:39.24 | Manu | KingofCamelot: how the callback and why? |
| 07:39.59 | Manu | I guess why :) |
| 07:49.55 | KingofCamelot | Sorry, was away from my computer |
| 07:50.56 | KingofCamelot | @BulletCatcher, the ServerMenu would use the callbacks to fill the HUDuiServerList. In my opinion, I think it needs to be a callback. |
| 07:51.35 | KingofCamelot | Otherwise I don't know when to check the ServerList for servers. I could constantly check/grab from the ServerList, but that seems like a waste. |
| 07:51.46 | KingofCamelot | Seems smarter to only hit it up when I know theres new data there. |
| 07:53.04 | Manu | KingofCamelot: seems smarter only query when you need data ;) |
| 07:54.16 | KingofCamelot | Well, I need the data the second you enter the ServerMenu, but that doesn't mean it's there. :P |
| 07:54.58 | Manu | you can show the cached data while you are asking |
| 07:56.18 | Manu | KingofCamelot: can't ppl wait 0-1 second? :) |
| 07:56.30 | KingofCamelot | So then for the new data do I just continue to query the ServerList constantly? |
| 07:56.57 | KingofCamelot | I can. :P I'm just trying to figure out the most efficient way to know when to get the data, instead of just guessing randomly. |
| 07:57.05 | KingofCamelot | Especially since the data streams into the ServerList, not all at once. |
| 07:57.56 | Manu | KingofCamelot: how many connected players, and how many times do ask to the server while they are connected? |
| 07:58.19 | Manu | KingofCamelot: I almost never query the listserver ;) |
| 07:58.39 | Manu | so I guess doing callbacks can be a waste of server resources |
| 07:58.46 | Manu | and an open door to DoS ;) |
| 07:59.32 | Manu | well the door always is open :) |
| 08:00.49 | Manu | KingofCamelot: every time a player is killed the callback will be fired? or only everytime a server connects to the listserver? |
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| 08:01.17 | KingofCamelot | I think we've got a misunderstanding. The callback would fire when a new ServerItem is added to ServerList |
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| 08:01.45 | Manu | KingofCamelot: that's why I asked you how :) |
| 08:03.52 | KingofCamelot | Ok, nevermind, forget I even mentioned callbacks. :P |
| 08:03.59 | brlcad | KingofCamelot: I don't particularly see a problem with it |
| 08:04.22 | brlcad | presuming you implement it like the rest of the callbacks of course |
| 08:04.53 | brlcad | seems reasonable to have the serverlist menu subscribe to updates, and just populate as they stream in |
| 08:05.00 | Manu | brlcad: isn't the list server enough saturated? ;) |
| 08:05.07 | Manu | ah, wait.. we have a new one :) |
| 08:05.12 | brlcad | it doesn't affect the list server |
| 08:05.17 | brlcad | this is all client processing |
| 08:05.35 | brlcad | the ServerList class is still doing what it always does, talks to the list server and gets the list |
| 08:05.55 | brlcad | he's talking about filling in the actual menu class with the ui elements |
| 08:06.09 | Manu | ah |
| 08:06.15 | Manu | then I missunderstood |
| 08:06.21 | brlcad | the old implementation polled iirc and resorted every update giving the semblance of live streaming updates |
| 08:06.30 | Manu | that's why I asked him why and how :) |
| 08:06.53 | brlcad | a callback approach would be less client-intensive, not that it's a problem either way -- the cpu resources are trivial at that point |
| 08:07.16 | brlcad | nods, twas a valid question, just not fully explained :) |
| 08:07.42 | brlcad | KingofCamelot: you're the "last one" on my list :) |
| 08:07.49 | Manu | heh |
| 08:09.15 | KingofCamelot | Yea, sorry for any misunderstandings...was still trying to work parts of it out in my head. :P |
| 08:09.28 | KingofCamelot | Not sure how I'd pass the newly added server with the callback, in standard syle. |
| 08:10.47 | KingofCamelot | It'd have to be a new type of callback, since the other ones don't really apply. |
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| 08:20.48 | brlcad | huh? |
| 08:21.13 | brlcad | they're generic -- they can be applied to pretty much any section of code |
| 08:21.17 | brlcad | that's one of their features |
| 08:21.31 | brlcad | did you read DTR's write-up? |
| 08:24.14 | KingofCamelot | I was refering to the NavQueue callbacks, etc, the ones I've been working with |
| 08:25.28 | KingofCamelot | Well, right now the current ServerMenu keeps a variable of the # of servers in the ServerList, and so each time it checks, if the ServerList has gotten bigger, it knows to query it. |
| 08:25.55 | KingofCamelot | I could always just keep with that approach. Less elegant than callbacks, but less code/changes needed. |
| 08:42.13 | brlcad | it would be better as callbacks |
| 08:42.22 | brlcad | just wouldn't spend more than a day on it |
| 08:46.19 | brlcad | if you mean the HUDuiCallback, that obviously wouldn't work as it if only because of the name/intent -- you'd have another ServerListCallback or somesuch |
| 08:47.24 | brlcad | i more meant the way that the callback is implemented, using that approach instead of something like functors or rtti or templates, etc |
| 08:47.41 | brlcad | simple function+data callbacks |
| 08:48.02 | brlcad | dozens of examples all throughout the codebase |
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| 12:08.21 | CIA-36 | BZFlag: Move some files back to their original locations for now. |
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| 13:02.25 | CIA-36 | BZFlag: Populate shooters' shotInfos with starting shot position based on last known player position for the shooters. |
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| 13:54.44 | Danji | IRC channel for gu anyone? |
| 13:55.58 | me1 | Danji, try ##guleague |
| 13:57.06 | Danji | doesnt work :( |
| 13:59.35 | blast007 | define "doesn't work" |
| 13:59.55 | blast007 | did you type /join ##guleague |
| 13:59.57 | blast007 | ? |
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| 14:10.29 | Danji | nalright thanks blast |
| 14:13.21 | donny_baker | ~n |
| 14:13.22 | ibot | from memory, n is the disease bzflag players get when they play too much. There is no cure. |
| 14:27.50 | Danji | yes im getting rid of the habbit |
| 14:28.29 | Danji | and it is annoying to see and n pop out of no where : ( |
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| 16:09.27 | Constitution | morning JeffM |
| 16:09.37 | JeffM | hola |
| 16:09.40 | JeffM | how goes it? |
| 16:09.52 | Constitution | it goes well |
| 16:09.58 | Constitution | got a question |
| 16:10.03 | JeffM | go for it |
| 16:10.04 | Constitution | when you said |
| 16:10.06 | Constitution | Jul 15 14:08:26 <JeffM>build up an ID from the shot slot and player ID |
| 16:10.19 | JeffM | make a long int |
| 16:10.21 | Constitution | what is the best approach to that? |
| 16:10.26 | JeffM | union |
| 16:10.39 | Constitution | oh ok |
| 16:10.47 | JeffM | first 2 bits == player ID, second 2 shot slot |
| 16:11.02 | JeffM | or multiply the playerID by 1000 and add |
| 16:11.04 | JeffM | ether or |
| 16:11.08 | JeffM | both will work |
| 16:11.31 | Constitution | is the shot slot also called the "salt"? |
| 16:11.37 | JeffM | no |
| 16:11.50 | JeffM | yeah.. salt is.. fun |
| 16:11.55 | JeffM | you need tun usalt the shots |
| 16:11.59 | JeffM | unsalt |
| 16:12.14 | JeffM | the salt is an additional item that is added to make sure it's unique |
| 16:12.25 | JeffM | actualy you won't be updating the clients, so you don't have to unsalt |
| 16:12.55 | JeffM | basicly its a way to tell the diffrence between a pair of shots that have the same slot |
| 16:13.26 | JeffM | due to lag, you may get the same ID more then once ( high lag, low shot count ), so the client needs to be able to figure out what one is the LAST shot in the slot |
| 16:13.31 | JeffM | the salt does that |
| 16:13.51 | Constitution | hm |
| 16:14.08 | JeffM | but for what you are doing, you won't send those back right now, so you can just keep the salt |
| 16:14.20 | JeffM | since the older shot for you will expire intneraly |
| 16:14.26 | Danji | hey cnst |
| 16:14.35 | Constitution | hi Danji |
| 16:14.46 | Danji | Const* : / |
| 16:14.47 | JeffM | as part of shot branch I took all that salt crap out |
| 16:14.57 | JeffM | and replaced it with the GUID stuff |
| 16:15.04 | JeffM | so that shots and slots could be seperated |
| 16:15.25 | JeffM | so for what you need to do ( just the tracking of shots in the server) the salt dosnt' matter, it'll just be a shot you track |
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| 16:23.53 | donny_baker | stupid question...are there a maximum of 100 shots on a server? |
| 16:24.05 | JeffM | no |
| 16:24.17 | JeffM | 255 IIRC |
| 16:24.33 | JeffM | it's based of slot count |
| 16:24.43 | donny_baker | k... you were saing bits... i was thinking digits |
| 16:24.46 | ruskie | hmm that would still be an insane ammount of shots... |
| 16:25.00 | donny_baker | it's been done before |
| 16:26.27 | JeffM | multply by 1000 and add would give him room for 999 shots per player, and that's more then trunk can handle |
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| 16:26.38 | spldart | Is it possible to make any world object, other than player tank, react in any way to being shot? |
| 16:26.41 | JeffM | shot branch supports 2 billion shots per player, and 4 billion world shots. |
| 16:26.48 | ruskie | though setting the shots to slow speed and a long lifetime could be fun... |
| 16:26.57 | JeffM | spldart, not at this time, but when const finishes, YES |
| 16:27.08 | spldart | Interesting. |
| 16:28.09 | JeffM | the only thing that tracks shots now is the client |
| 16:28.53 | spldart | I just had an idea come to me for a map but it would require the aforementioned shot detection. Well kewl. |
| 16:29.16 | JeffM | server side shots will allow for a bunch of cool things |
| 16:29.44 | spldart | It will indeed :) |
| 16:30.39 | spldart | Hrm... How about moving world object with shot detection? :) |
| 16:31.14 | JeffM | server side shots would get us closer to moving objects yes |
| 16:31.30 | JeffM | it would at least let us do dynamic shoot thru |
| 16:31.42 | JeffM | moving objects also needs a rock solid client/server time sync |
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| 16:32.31 | spldart | Hello bugQ |
| 16:32.41 | Constitution | hmmm, if trunk code builds right now, I will eat my hat |
| 16:32.45 | bugQ | hi |
| 16:32.48 | Constitution | fetches the salt and pepper, just in case |
| 16:32.59 | JeffM | Constitution, what didn't build on it? |
| 16:33.18 | spldart | JeffM: I never really thought about how much of an effect on map design ideas these changes would potentially bring about |
| 16:33.22 | bugQ | sorry, I said I would pop in yesterday, but I get held up |
| 16:33.40 | bugQ | *got |
| 16:33.46 | Blizzard- | JeffM: is there anything wrong with the list server? |
| 16:33.48 | Constitution | I think MotionUtils requires some deg2rad macro that isn't in the VectorMath header... but I'm trying trunk to see how that goes |
| 16:34.02 | Constitution | MotionUtils.cxx:172: error: 'deg2Rad' was not declared in this scope |
| 16:34.16 | spldart | bugQ: I'm not too concerned. You have improved greatly lately. Keep it up :) |
| 16:35.22 | Blizzard- | JeffM: never mind |
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| 16:44.41 | JeffM | spldart, yeah it will be nice. |
| 16:44.50 | JeffM | Constitution, add it if you need it |
| 16:47.07 | Constitution | trunk seems to build okay... trying to figure out where the discrepancy lies |
| 16:47.37 | JeffM | you could probalby just sync the entirety of trunk to your branch |
| 16:47.41 | JeffM | can't hurt |
| 16:48.12 | Constitution | okay |
| 16:48.27 | JeffM | it's not a bad idea to sync every so often anyway |
| 16:48.33 | JeffM | then it makes your merge back in later easier |
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| 17:57.04 | JeffM | Erroneous, I updated direct input to use the DX8 interface, but I was unable to test it |
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| 19:28.35 | Wyk3d1 | the bzflag project depends on the platform project for example yet that's not listed in additional dependencies |
| 19:28.57 | Wyk3d1 | how is the linker told to link with it ? |
| 19:29.16 | pacman87 | Wyk3d1: you mean the platform SDK? |
| 19:29.20 | Wyk3d1 | no |
| 19:29.38 | pacman87 | what os? |
| 19:29.40 | brlcad | it's just compiled in on the windows build iirc |
| 19:29.46 | brlcad | as additional sources |
| 19:29.51 | brlcad | not a lib |
| 19:30.12 | brlcad | could be wrong, but that's what I vaguely recall it being |
| 19:30.53 | Wyk3d1 | additional sources ? :-/ |
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| 19:33.33 | Wyk3d1 | hmm now that i look at the linker command line .. the projects are specificed as libs to link with .. but they don't show up any setting that I could change to e.g add another one |
| 19:37.25 | Wyk3d1 | some pragmas are used in the included headers to tell the linker to use those libs ? |
| 19:41.49 | Wyk3d1 | hah .. found it :D |
| 19:42.11 | Wyk3d1 | the project dependencies in the solution |
| 19:42.42 | Wyk3d1 | the libs that the linker uses are ticked |
| 19:44.31 | JeffM | Wyk3d1, yeah all the dependencies are int he sln |
| 19:44.54 | JeffM | since it is what manages the inter-project relationsips |
| 19:45.27 | Wyk3d1 | i'm used to doing that myself with additional depencies ^^ |
| 19:45.34 | JeffM | eww |
| 19:45.48 | Wyk3d1 | comparatively .. yes, eww indeed |
| 19:45.55 | JeffM | I only use those for stuff that isn't in the project |
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| 19:46.13 | JeffM | then I can have more then one sln that includes the project for various build types ( client only, server, only, etc.. ) |
| 19:57.27 | brlcad | Wyk3d1: apparently my info is outdated or just outright wrong -- sorry :) |
| 19:57.38 | Wyk3d1 | np :) |
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| 21:28.47 | CIA-36 | BZFlag: 03macsforme * r18238 10/branches/gsoc_collisions/ (7 files in 3 dirs): |
| 21:28.47 | CIA-36 | BZFlag: Merged in VectorMath and MotionUtils from trunk. |
| 21:28.47 | CIA-36 | BZFlag: New function to get shot velocity from shot type. |
| 21:35.10 | Blizzard- | When I try to start a server, I get this, error: unexpected EOF |
| 21:35.20 | Blizzard- | Does that mean Unexpected End Of Fie? |
| 21:35.22 | Blizzard- | file* |
| 21:36.37 | Constitution | yes |
| 21:37.56 | Blizzard- | What would cause this? My config is fine, I tested it on blasts bzw tester no error messages. |
| 21:38.14 | blast007 | what is the full error? |
| 21:38.41 | blast007 | ~bzpastebin |
| 21:38.42 | ibot | [bzpastebin] http://pastebin.bzflag.bz or a place to put large chunks of text so as not to flood a channel |
| 21:38.44 | blast007 | if it's long |
| 21:39.36 | Blizzard- | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:39.40 | Blizzard- | doi |
| 21:39.42 | Blizzard- | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:39.51 | Blizzard- | HOLD ON |
| 21:40.26 | Blizzard- | It's trying to start on port 4701 but my command line is pointing to 4703 |
| 21:40.28 | brlcad | HOLDS ONTO Blizzard- |
| 21:40.43 | Blizzard- | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:41.26 | brlcad | it's saying it got to the end of that bzw while parsing before it should have if it's the section of code I'm thinking of |
| 21:41.42 | brlcad | maybe missing a block end statement or a quote not closed |
| 21:43.09 | Blizzard- | what is this? LIBCURL version: libcurl/7.16.3-CVS c-ares/1.3.3-CVS |
| 21:43.23 | JeffM | your version of libcurl |
| 21:43.31 | Constitution | no way |
| 21:43.39 | Blizzard- | hmm, I get that as well. |
| 21:43.46 | blast007 | which is normal |
| 21:44.04 | blast007 | your map file is broke. Fix it. :) |
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| 21:59.57 | CIA-36 | BZFlag: 03blast007 * r18239 10/trunk/web/submitimages/TODO: Throw in some TODOs. |
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| 22:08.49 | KingofCamelot | So I took a second to revise the mock-up I submitted with my GSOC application, and came up with this: http://www.uweb.ucsb.edu/~davidsanders/mockup_updated.jpg |
| 22:16.47 | pacman87 | would it be possible to include a specific field for map maker and server owner, instead of trying to fit all that into the 'server name' field? |
| 22:17.13 | JeffM | pacman87, yeah the proposed WorldInfo object does all that |
| 22:17.47 | JeffM | http://my.bzflag.org/w/World_Info(object) |
| 22:17.52 | pacman87 | JeffM: cool, thanks |
| 22:18.03 | JeffM | it's not implemented yet |
| 22:18.06 | JeffM | but that's the general idea |
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| 22:29.04 | KingofCamelot | So any other comments on the mockup? :) |
| 22:29.13 | JeffM | I needs more ninjas |
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| 22:29.21 | JeffM | it |
| 22:31.18 | pacman87 | when do you get the 'server information' data - from the individual servers, or the list? |
| 22:32.01 | AAA_awright | Detailed server information can only be retrieved from the server itself |
| 22:32.17 | JeffM | the list has some info |
| 22:32.20 | JeffM | the servers have more |
| 22:32.29 | JeffM | players, teams, settings, etc.. are on the list |
| 22:32.40 | pacman87 | could you add a radar-style preview of the map? |
| 22:32.49 | JeffM | anything could be added |
| 22:32.51 | JeffM | with work |
| 22:32.54 | blast007 | AAA_awright: nothing says we can't change what the servers sends too |
| 22:32.57 | JeffM | it's just more data to send |
| 22:33.25 | AAA_awright | blast007: True, but as of right now |
| 22:33.25 | JeffM | who cares about now |
| 22:33.25 | JeffM | all we care about is the future ;) |
| 22:33.35 | blast007 | the new server list is for our new version which is under development |
| 22:33.44 | blast007 | server list menu* |
| 22:33.49 | JeffM | it involves SCIENCE |
| 22:34.08 | donny_baker | KingofCamelot: recent will be cached or just this playing session? |
| 22:35.11 | KingofCamelot | donny_baker: I'd like to make it cached, as long as no one sees any problems with that. |
| 22:35.34 | JeffM | keep it in the config |
| 22:35.38 | JeffM | that's what it's there for |
| 22:35.53 | donny_baker | I think it would be great cached... so when the list serve is temporarily down you still have choices |
| 22:36.44 | blast007 | JeffM: are you meaning just the host/port? or the full line provided from the list server? |
| 22:37.07 | JeffM | all of it |
| 22:37.15 | JeffM | tho if it's a list then it should be a file with the config |
| 22:37.16 | JeffM | not in it |
| 22:37.17 | AAA_awright | KingofCamelot: I don't know how you would fix this personally, but the jump your eyes have to make from the server item to the server details pane could take too much work |
| 22:37.39 | AAA_awright | Always make the selected item be the first, and put the details on the top maybe |
| 22:38.12 | AAA_awright | More like what we have now |
| 22:39.02 | JeffM | I think as long as you have a repeat of the selected server info in the info section that's fine |
| 22:39.11 | JeffM | since the list may be truncated |
| 22:39.18 | JeffM | it would be good to show the entire thing |
| 22:39.33 | AAA_awright | Having two columns with "name" could be confusing, I like name/title or name/description, not domain name/server name |
| 22:39.40 | AAA_awright | Shorter too |
| 22:39.46 | Wyk3d1 | hmm .. i get a "can't talk to list server" on the gsoc_bzauthd branch .. is that because the list sever is down or i'm not forwarding some port or something ? |
| 22:39.58 | JeffM | yeah domain name should simply be "address" |
| 22:40.18 | JeffM | Server name is fine, but just make the other "Address" |
| 22:40.21 | AAA_awright | "Address" works even better |
| 22:40.42 | JeffM | I'd like to see features to create new filters as tabs too :) |
| 22:40.43 | blast007 | Wits: firewall? the list works fine in 2.0.10 |
| 22:40.48 | KingofCamelot | Ok, that's an easy Fix |
| 22:40.49 | blast007 | er, Wyk3d1* |
| 22:41.02 | KingofCamelot | JeffM, if I've got the time? :) |
| 22:41.11 | JeffM | Wyk3d1, can you connect using the regular client? |
| 22:41.18 | JeffM | KingofCamelot, of course, or someone else can add it |
| 22:41.24 | JeffM | more people working on the code == better |
| 22:41.55 | blast007 | JeffM: what's the point of storing the entire list server line in the config file? we already have a cache file for server listings, so why not just cross reference that with a host/port? |
| 22:42.10 | Wyk3d1 | JeffM: 2.0.10 works just fine |
| 22:42.21 | JeffM | Wyk3d1, wierd |
| 22:42.30 | JeffM | blast007, what line? |
| 22:42.33 | JeffM | the ULR? |
| 22:42.35 | JeffM | URL? |
| 22:42.35 | blast007 | no |
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| 22:42.50 | JeffM | are confused |
| 22:42.58 | blast007 | ex: |
| 22:42.59 | blast007 | 0bzflag.selfip.net:5156 BZFS0026 023800030000000000000000000019001900000000000000000014 68.194.194.91 Gu League Hix - Rabid Rabbit! |
| 22:43.08 | blast007 | that's what I was referring to as the "whole line" |
| 22:43.26 | JeffM | as I said, if it's a list, then it should not go in the config |
| 22:43.46 | JeffM | the info should be in another file ( cahce is fine ) and just ref it |
| 22:43.49 | JeffM | host and port is fine |
| 22:43.59 | JeffM | or "address" as it's called |
| 22:44.35 | AAA_awright | KingofCamelot: idk how this fits in, but the sorting I use on http://bzflag.redjacket.ws/serverlist sorts by tanks (that is, not observers), then in recent activity order. Servers with no recent players are at the bottom of the list, servers with recent players are at the top. |
| 22:45.13 | JeffM | AAA_awright, the point of his project it to allow any sort you want |
| 22:45.28 | JeffM | but we don't store "recent" players yet |
| 22:45.36 | JeffM | once we do then that could be added as a sort |
| 22:45.56 | JeffM | a "last played" time woudl be a good list server field |
| 22:45.59 | JeffM | or "last update" |
| 22:46.02 | KingofCamelot | Indeed. The code for adding more sorting options is pretty simple. |
| 22:46.05 | JeffM | then you can see where the action is |
| 22:50.24 | KingofCamelot | For key presses on the mockup I linked to, I'm thinking: +/- Add/Remove Favorite, F set filter options....and then I'm not sure how to do the tabs and sorting :P |
| 22:55.28 | Wyk3d1 | i get a CURLE_COULDNT_CONNECT when trying to connect to the list server .. |
| 22:59.34 | Wyk3d1 | curl_easy_setopt(easyHandle, CURLOPT_URL, usedUrl.c_str()); for http://my.bzflag.org/db is CURLE_OK |
| 23:01.12 | JeffM | wierd |
| 23:01.19 | JeffM | what curl dll are you using? |
| 23:05.08 | Wyk3d1 | never mind .. it's the firewall .. even though I explicitly told it to allow all traffic for bzflag :-/ |
| 23:05.29 | blast007 | for *that* bzflag binary? or for another one? :) |
| 23:06.07 | Wyk3d1 | well i only have one running, and it's in "allow" mode :) |
| 23:07.02 | blast007 | I mean the path that is set for the firewall. Like, in Windows Firewall, the exceptions point to a specific exe file |
| 23:07.37 | Wyk3d1 | sygate shows the running apps |
| 23:07.50 | Wyk3d1 | and you can set allow / ask / block for each |
| 23:07.58 | Wyk3d1 | i only have one bzflag running |
| 23:08.02 | blast007 | heh |
| 23:08.22 | Wyk3d1 | it's explicitly set for allow |
| 23:08.29 | Wyk3d1 | yet it's showing up as blocked in the traffic log :-/ |
| 23:08.37 | blast007 | maybe just a bug in the firewall then. Sygate doesn't even exist anymore, does it? |
| 23:08.46 | Wyk3d1 | nope |
| 23:08.47 | blast007 | bought by Symantec |
| 23:09.12 | Wyk3d1 | it's like five years old but it's still great .. usually |
| 23:09.14 | blast007 | I used to use their free firewall, but now I either just use the Windows firewall, or Comodo Firewall |
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| 23:23.32 | Lukstr | Well, that's eerie. I just ran across a question from one of my profs on the boost-users list |
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| 23:52.00 | AHA | heh |
| 23:55.09 | blast007 | anyone know how to get a regex to pick out "<?" but not "<?php" ? |
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