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| 00:18.01 | spldart | mmmMMMMmmm foods |
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| 00:20.34 | tj13820 | just noticed that the notice about SVN being down is still there :) |
| 00:21.51 | blizzard- | nobody cares, tj |
| 00:21.57 | tj13820 | xD |
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| 00:23.40 | spldart | meh |
| 00:25.56 | *** topic/#bzflag by Erroneous -> http://cia.vc/stats/project/BZFlag || http://my.BZFlag.org/w/Getting_Help || logs at http://ibot.rikers.org/%23bzflag/ || http://ohloh.net/projects/189 || 2.0.12 is the latest linux release, 2.0.10 for others || GSoC 2008, mentor blog at http://tanks4code.blogspot.com || Congratulations GSoC participants: http://code.google.com/soc/2008/bzflag/about.html |
| 00:26.25 | JBdiGriz | Erroneous cares |
| 00:29.39 | Wyk3d | JBdiGriz: about that question i wrote earlier .. did you see it ? |
| 00:31.49 | spldart | Man.. Bug and Tim are so close together you have to zoom a bit to get the google map to recognize the diff 8-0 |
| 00:36.58 | Erroneous | Wyk3d: assuming you're talking about caching tokens...don't bother if it adds any complexity. how often is the auth daemon going to need restarting anyway? |
| 00:37.18 | Erroneous | s/caching/saving/ |
| 00:37.44 | Erroneous | and most tokens are used almost immediately |
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| 00:39.39 | spldart | Wilkem |
| 00:42.38 | Wyk3d | Erroneous: it will not need to be restarted often though it could crash .. |
| 00:43.02 | Erroneous | if it crashes it needs fixing ;) |
| 00:43.07 | Wyk3d | yes .. |
| 00:43.21 | Erroneous | seriously though, don't worry about saving tokens. they're temporary data. |
| 00:43.28 | Wyk3d | k |
| 00:43.35 | Erroneous | they should expire pretty quickly anyway |
| 00:43.55 | Erroneous | I think we use 5 minutes as the expiry time now |
| 00:52.54 | JBdiGriz | goes to look, it wasn't highlighted |
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| 00:54.36 | JBdiGriz | agrees with Erroneous |
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| 00:56.10 | mibs | BZFLAG 2.0.10: I experienced a bug with a very high score |
| 00:56.38 | mibs | it changed into a negative score, and normalized went meaningless |
| 00:56.44 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03bzspldart * r18101 10/trunk/bzflag/BUGS: Someone has indeed fixed F12 in windows build. :-) |
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| 01:02.56 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03bzspldart * r18102 10/trunk/bzflag/BUGS: Windows join issue seems to be fixed. |
| 01:27.21 | pacman87 | mibs: the same thing happened to me playing tetris |
| 01:27.28 | pacman87 | integer overflow at 32787 |
| 01:27.49 | spldart | heh |
| 01:29.38 | pacman87 | strangly enough, the high score table is still correct |
| 01:30.00 | pacman87 | but the highest scores are -28xxx |
| 01:30.21 | pacman87 | err, 32767 |
| 01:30.29 | pacman87 | not 32787 earlier |
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| 01:32.43 | mibs | around the same numbers |
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| 01:48.55 | spldart | I'm so remembering hacking Ultima IV on Apple II.. But no! You couldn't go past hexadecimal even thought the proggie didn't let you go past numerics. Modify code past 99 to FF :) |
| 01:49.09 | spldart | s/thought/though |
| 01:49.27 | mibs | i own in Catan!! |
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| 01:59.40 | mibs | anyone ever played a microsoft trial game before? |
| 02:06.14 | spldart | *crickets* |
| 02:17.21 | bugQ | grr, breakpoint trouble again |
| 02:20.30 | bugQ | the "Make breakpoint pending on future shared library load" feature doesn't seem to work, and I can't get that thing that Thumper showed to work either |
| 02:23.07 | short_circuit | Not sure thumper can help for a bit. He's taken a trip this weekend. and Jeff has been kinda scarce today. I'm crashing.. After some moderate testing of trunk. And it sounds like your in need of Jeff's level of expertise anywho. |
| 02:23.25 | bugQ | does anyone have experience debugging bzfs plugins? |
| 02:24.00 | short_circuit | Again.. Thumper and Jeff :(... wait around for a bit though Jeff may be back before midnight :) |
| 02:24.26 | bugQ | right, I'll busy myself elsehow |
| 02:24.27 | short_circuit | My debug experience is rather limited. Esp on plugins |
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| 02:27.19 | short_circuit | Timing kinda suxors :(.. Your an hour behind Central aren't you?.. That and I get up pretty early |
| 02:28.00 | bugQ | ya. |
| 02:28.18 | bugQ | I probably could have asked earlier :\ |
| 02:28.39 | short_circuit | Meh.. it would have been hit and miss then too with Jeff |
| 02:28.52 | short_circuit | He's been unusually scarce today. |
| 02:28.55 | short_circuit | Among others |
| 02:29.15 | short_circuit | I'm off to bed.. Nighty night all :~) |
| 02:30.19 | bugQ | cya. |
| 02:32.43 | QuantumZin | bye guys |
| 02:36.03 | pacman87 | bugQ: i use the poor man's debugger and add server messages |
| 02:37.23 | pacman87 | ... assuming it loads far enough to get to that point |
| 02:38.09 | bugQ | yes, I know where the error occurs, so that might work |
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| 03:03.04 | bugQ | oh, I might have just forgot a flag when I ./configured |
| 03:03.09 | bugQ | that would be silly |
| 03:04.58 | pacman87 | i prefer finding silly errors - they're much easier to fix |
| 03:05.14 | bugQ | oh cool, now libcurl is complaining. |
| 03:10.26 | pacman87 | i ran into that trying to get davfs2 working. "hey, it finally works... no wait, that's just a new failure mode" |
| 03:16.55 | bugQ | seems to be less whiney now |
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| 04:17.51 | bugQ | grr. still no dice |
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| 04:47.53 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03bugQ * r18103 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfsAPI.cxx: bz_getGroupPerms now returns NULL if no such group is found |
| 04:49.24 | pacman87 | bugQ: is the plugin working now? |
| 04:49.44 | bugQ | no, but I have a quota :( |
| 04:51.17 | pacman87 | well, good luck and good night (going to bed) |
| 04:51.30 | bugQ | right then, cya |
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| 05:47.41 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03bugQ * r18104 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/webadmin/ (templates/group.tmpl webadmin.cpp): most of group perms backend |
| 05:49.42 | bugQ | ok! |
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| 12:19.28 | Cobra_Fast | is it possible to reserve observer only for admins? |
| 12:19.42 | Cobra_Fast | so only admins are allowed to observe? |
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| 13:07.32 | SpazzyMcGee | Cobra_Fast, not that I know of |
| 13:07.45 | SpazzyMcGee | You might be able to do it with a plugin |
| 13:07.57 | SpazzyMcGee | Kick observers that aren't in the right group |
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| 13:27.55 | SpazzyMcGee | Somebody's spamming up BZBB |
| 13:30.39 | ts | yep |
| 13:31.41 | ts | I'm going to delete some of the posts |
| 13:32.34 | ts | All posts deleted I have perms for |
| 13:32.52 | ts | 3 spams left |
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| 13:49.27 | hwilde | yo come play at high voltage |
| 13:49.32 | hwilde | levels are fun |
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| 14:06.25 | donny_baker | back |
| 14:09.33 | donny_baker | spammer taken care of |
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| 14:11.27 | Thumper_ | hi donny_baker |
| 14:11.40 | donny_baker | howdy |
| 14:16.14 | Thumper_ | ~botmail for bugQ for debugging try setting a breakpoint on a line number - like b logdetail.cpp:68 - that works for me on the .de server |
| 14:17.02 | Thumper_ | ~botmail for bugQ oops that should have been b logDetail.cpp:68 |
| 14:21.28 | Thumper_ | morning spldart_ |
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| 14:54.28 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03wyk3d * r18105 10/trunk/bzauthd/ (7 files in 3 dirs): |
| 14:54.28 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: * Fixed a crash in AuthResponse |
| 14:54.28 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: * Added better callsign/password checking |
| 14:54.28 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: * Added TokenMgr |
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| 16:43.04 | blast007 | Cobra_Slow: possible, yes. But you'd have to write a plugin. |
| 16:44.40 | JeffM | dtr wake up! |
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| 17:02.42 | spldart_ | Meh.. I'll log back in when I get home |
| 17:03.00 | spldart_ | connection fragged |
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| 17:06.35 | bugQ | Thumper_: thanks for the tip |
| 17:07.08 | Thumper_ | bugQ: wlcm |
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| 17:17.33 | bugQ | ah, would std::string((const char *)NULL) cause a segfault? |
| 17:19.24 | Wyk3d | i'd be surprised if it doesn't |
| 17:20.22 | bugQ | dangit, I need to talk to jeff about this... |
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| 17:24.45 | bugQ | I also wish I had a c++ interpreter or something |
| 17:28.33 | bugQ | if f(x) returns a (const char *), will f(x) || "hello" do what I want? |
| 17:29.56 | bugQ | or will it consider that a bool? |
| 17:31.19 | Wyk3d | i think "hello" evaluates to the address where that is stored |
| 17:31.24 | Wyk3d | and it checks if it's NULL |
| 17:31.48 | bugQ | right, but what type will that whole expression have? |
| 17:32.02 | Wyk3d | the end result will be bool |
| 17:32.11 | bugQ | ok. |
| 17:32.37 | Wyk3d | || always returns bool unless overloaded |
| 17:34.14 | bugQ | then comes the question for jeff: what should the default value of an HTTPRequest's hostmask be? |
| 17:43.03 | blast007 | can't it be just an empty string? |
| 17:48.46 | Thumper_ | bugQ: f(x) || "hello" should return "hello" only if f(x) is null - I think |
| 18:02.09 | bugQ | blast007: that's my guess too |
| 18:05.15 | bugQ | doesn't seem to work that way, though |
| 18:05.23 | bugQ | er, Thumper_ |
| 18:05.56 | Lukstr | Thumper_: || is boolean OR |
| 18:06.29 | Lukstr | (f(x) || "hello") returns 1 every time |
| 18:09.22 | BulletCatcher | It is in Perl where || returns the right-hand argument if the left-hand is false. |
| 18:10.17 | Lukstr | heh, Perl |
| 18:10.55 | Lukstr | (f(x)?f(x):"hello") ? :P |
| 18:11.14 | Lukstr | (a=f(x)?a:"hello") |
| 18:11.28 | bugQ | the second one, ya. |
| 18:12.06 | BulletCatcher | Need more parens: ((a=f(x))?a:"hello") |
| 18:12.30 | bugQ | I used two lines anyway, the function name is actually quite long |
| 18:13.03 | Lukstr | BulletCatcher: you sure? |
| 18:13.27 | BulletCatcher | Yes. Assignment has higher precedence than ? : |
| 18:13.41 | BulletCatcher | *lower* |
| 18:14.07 | bugQ | see, this is why I a c++ interpreter. |
| 18:14.15 | bugQ | s/a/need/ |
| 18:15.12 | bugQ | say, I've seen ibot run those s/// commands in other channels |
| 18:15.16 | blast007 | bugQ: wouldn't it make sense to store the returned value from f(x), check if it's NULL, and then decide what to return? |
| 18:15.17 | bugQ | ibot: why so quiet? |
| 18:15.17 | ibot | why not? |
| 18:15.21 | Lukstr | BulletCatcher: good call |
| 18:15.40 | bugQ | blast007: that's what I'm doing |
| 18:15.46 | Lukstr | bugQ: c++ interpreter why? just write a little test app |
| 18:15.56 | bugQ | but that takes so much time! |
| 18:16.00 | Lukstr | not at all |
| 18:16.10 | bugQ | I did end up doing that, tho |
| 18:16.44 | bugQ | ibot is pretty cheeky, huh? |
| 18:16.53 | Lukstr | you don't need to write a makefile |
| 18:16.57 | blast007 | bugQ: what exactly is the problem you are encountering? |
| 18:17.13 | Lukstr | bugQ: are you using an IDE? |
| 18:17.20 | bugQ | nope |
| 18:17.36 | bugQ | blast007: one that I may have fixed |
| 18:17.39 | brlcad | writing little test apps should be done frequently, if you think it takes so much time then you need more practice |
| 18:17.51 | Lukstr | well in vi & make & gcc one can write a test app takes an instant |
| 18:17.59 | Lukstr | + grammar |
| 18:18.07 | brlcad | it should be second-nature to whip up a simple test app for making a couple api calls |
| 18:18.19 | bugQ | ya, ya. |
| 18:18.31 | brlcad | helps make you a better programmer and provides other beneftis to the code as well |
| 18:19.37 | brlcad | like doing multiplication, at first you're making counting fingers, but after a while you (hopefully) see the patterns and combinations in your head |
| 18:19.41 | bugQ | Lukstr: in fact, I'm doing almost everything thru ssh to .de now, because nothing works unless I run a public server |
| 18:19.48 | Lukstr | I see |
| 18:19.56 | Lukstr | so vi + make are your friends :) |
| 18:20.03 | brlcad | and gdb ;) |
| 18:20.08 | Lukstr | heh |
| 18:20.17 | bugQ | yes indeed, we're the best of pals :P |
| 18:20.19 | brlcad | gdb will let you do some on-demand logic |
| 18:20.26 | bugQ | that's true |
| 18:20.36 | brlcad | like your func() || "result" |
| 18:20.43 | Lukstr | There's an interesting C++ interpreter in the ##C++ channel |
| 18:20.54 | Lukstr | a bot will run C++-ish code you message it with |
| 18:21.05 | bugQ | funky. |
| 18:21.31 | brlcad | Lukstr: system("rm -rf /"); ? |
| 18:21.47 | Lukstr | it's not true C++ though |
| 18:21.51 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03bugQ * r18106 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/HTTPServer/HTTPServer.cpp: possible fix for a segfault on an http request |
| 18:21.51 | Lukstr | I'm not sure what it is |
| 18:21.57 | bugQ | wow, that took a while |
| 18:22.12 | Lukstr | std::set myset = 1,2,3,4; cout << set; |
| 18:22.19 | Lukstr | that's valid under it |
| 18:22.26 | Lukstr | and it would print "[1, 2, 3, 4]" |
| 18:26.07 | bugQ | oh boy, I may be addicted to electro house |
| 18:28.16 | BulletCatcher | I hope it doesn't interfere with your BZFlag addiction. |
| 18:28.38 | bugQ | on the contrary, it helps my concentration |
| 18:31.01 | bugQ | prime example: http://youtube.com/watch?v=FTHrfpAUbsk&fmt=18 |
| 18:33.35 | bugQ | and...it works |
| 18:38.10 | a_meteorite | http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=12806 Does this have anything to do with Probationary Account? Hehe... |
| 18:40.17 | a_meteorite | bugQ: Your BZBB avatar is cute :) |
| 18:42.34 | blast007 | bzflag fan site? I don't think a single forum category about bzflag counts as a fan site... |
| 18:44.41 | a_meteorite | hehe |
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| 19:00.14 | bugQ | gotta go for now |
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| 19:49.41 | blast007 | regarding this change... http://bzflag.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/bzflag/trunk/bzflag/plugins/HTTPServer/HTTPServer.cpp?r1=18036&r2=18106 |
| 19:50.09 | blast007 | wouldn't it be better to just fix bz_getNonPlayerConnectionHost? |
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| 21:56.41 | donny_baker | ~seen KingofCamelot |
| 21:56.45 | ibot | kingofcamelot <n=davidsan@ip68-108-247-95.sb.sd.cox.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 3d 15h 35m 45s ago, saying: 'The USA is tiny.'. |
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