| 00:11.57 | spldart | Curses! bugQ made me ./autogen.sh again!!!! |
| 00:11.59 | spldart | j/k |
| 00:12.09 | spldart | ~bugQ++ |
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| 00:20.40 | spldart | Or am I wrong. curl fix stuff require a fresh auto and config? |
| 00:22.18 | Constitution | changes to any Makefile.am's require a re-./configure. changes to configure.ac require a re-./autogen and a re-./configure |
| 00:22.27 | Constitution | and that information is probably 100% wrong ;) |
| 00:26.20 | spldart | lolz |
| 00:27.04 | spldart | I doez both for both. Now I'm not sure if his curl fix had anything to do but still ++ |
| 00:28.15 | bugQ | Makefile.am ---autogen---> Makefile.in ---configure---> Makefile, as I understanad |
| 00:28.20 | bugQ | *stand |
| 00:28.49 | Constitution | ah |
| 00:29.09 | bugQ | so any changes to the build process require autogen |
| 00:30.24 | spldart | Any changes ~ .ac and .am |
| 00:30.26 | spldart | ? |
| 00:30.31 | bugQ | ya |
| 00:30.41 | spldart | then I'm on the same page ;) |
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| 00:33.16 | brlcad | Constitution: nah, that's pretty close to the truth |
| 00:33.56 | spldart | woohoo.. latest debug win and lin are good to go |
| 00:34.05 | brlcad | updating a Makefile.am doesn't necessarily require a re-configure, but that depends on so many issues that it's just as easy to tell folks to reconfigure |
| 00:34.16 | Constitution | ah |
| 00:34.42 | brlcad | or even to reautogen.sh if a makefile.am is updated just in case (as there are some *really* rare edits that require a maintainer-clean) |
| 00:35.47 | brlcad | bugQ: mostly true to, except that Makefile.in's include internal logic that let them regenerate themselves automatically 95% of the time |
| 00:36.01 | bugQ | aha. |
| 00:37.24 | spldart | enjoys class-in-session |
| 00:40.13 | BulletCatcher | wonders if this will be on the final exam |
| 00:41.11 | Winny | BulletCatcher, if a train leaves los angeles at 2pm travelling at 38mph and a train leaves salt lake city at the same time travelling at 46mph, how much gas will they use? |
| 00:41.24 | spldart | LOl |
| 00:41.37 | spldart | zzzZZZzzz |
| 00:41.37 | bugQ | $120.47 worth, depending on exchange rates. |
| 00:42.04 | BulletCatcher | None. Modern trains use diesel. |
| 00:42.16 | bugQ | diesel != gas ? |
| 00:42.17 | spldart | wait.. american?! Not pounds or euro's or duesch marks |
| 00:42.18 | spldart | :) |
| 00:42.57 | bugQ | oh, nevermind |
| 00:43.28 | spldart | For me Gasoline and Deise = fuel |
| 00:43.34 | spldart | meh |
| 00:43.37 | spldart | diesel |
| 00:43.38 | Lukstr | heh |
| 00:44.02 | Winny | ~BulletCatcher++ |
| 00:44.06 | Winny | he got it :o |
| 00:44.11 | BulletCatcher | :-) |
| 00:47.21 | spldart | Oh and Tank of Gasoline - 1 gal of full tank + 1 gal of diesel = cleaner fuel system on 70's are older carbeuratored vehicle. |
| 00:47.24 | spldart | :-p |
| 00:47.41 | Lukstr | oh dear |
| 00:51.19 | Winny | wtf? http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=12782 |
| 00:52.12 | spldart | weird |
| 00:52.21 | Think_Differentl | smells scam |
| 00:52.39 | Winny | me too |
| 00:52.45 | Winny | since he registered today |
| 00:53.39 | Think_Differentl | Winny, 1 month ago |
| 00:53.53 | brlcad | doesn't seem like a scam to me |
| 00:53.54 | Think_Differentl | June |= July |
| 00:54.00 | Winny | meh, junjuly 11th close enough |
| 00:54.26 | brlcad | sounds like something I'd readily say if I really wanted a dedicated mature person to tutor/train |
| 00:55.11 | Winny | the caps seem to make it sound less credible |
| 00:55.13 | brlcad | the toll free number is a bit fishy |
| 00:55.30 | brlcad | yeah, the p.s. sounds b.s. |
| 00:55.57 | bugQ | my dad had a toll free number in case we kids got stranded without change |
| 00:56.01 | brlcad | but still could be real |
| 00:56.54 | spldart | And the odds of that?> |
| 00:57.24 | spldart | goes to shoot some tanks |
| 00:57.47 | brlcad | the fact that he's offering a phone contact makes it somewhat more credible since 'most' kids are a dead give-away and 'most' adults wouldn't get involved in a prank that is legally fraud |
| 00:59.32 | bugQ | I like "does $50/hr. seem ok?" |
| 01:01.58 | bugQ | I know firsthand how nuts parents can go over teaching their kids, but I'm still smirking |
| 01:02.52 | Lukstr | hah |
| 01:04.11 | bugQ | these make the case, I think http://my.bzflag.org/bb/search.php?search_author=The+FLY |
| 01:05.48 | Erroneous | heh, posted from hawaii, too |
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| 01:23.24 | Winny | yay... goodbye OS X mouse acceleration |
| 01:24.07 | a_meteorite | Winny: you like your mouse slow? |
| 01:24.28 | Lukstr | a_meteorite: not slow; constant |
| 01:24.43 | Winny | exactly |
| 01:24.53 | a_meteorite | I don't recall my OS X settings allowing me to change acceleration in THAT way |
| 01:25.05 | Winny | 3rd party |
| 01:25.41 | Winny | and on that happy note.. brb... again |
| 01:25.45 | a_meteorite | link? |
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| 01:28.23 | Winny | dunno how you used accelerated mouse for photoshop |
| 01:29.12 | AHA | heh |
| 01:29.17 | L4m3r | hand-eye coordination? |
| 01:29.25 | L4m3r | you must have a really crappy mouse :P |
| 01:29.35 | Winny | it's so irritating... randomly speed up |
| 01:29.37 | AHA | my best friend's dad is a freelance add designer and he uses a crazy fast mouse |
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| 01:29.41 | Winny | "almost... got it! AWW CRAP!" |
| 01:29.41 | AHA | err |
| 01:29.42 | AHA | *ad |
| 01:29.48 | L4m3r | I have a really fast mouse |
| 01:29.57 | AHA | well, he keeps it at the highest settings |
| 01:30.16 | Winny | I have a FAST mouse, the acceleration is use irritating |
| 01:30.16 | L4m3r | it's a Razer Diamondback... high resolution/sensitivity and no drivers, so the pointer moves super fast |
| 01:30.27 | AHA | logitech g7 :D |
| 01:30.30 | AHA | up to 2000DPI |
| 01:30.31 | a_meteorite | Winny: link? |
| 01:30.41 | Winny | a_meteorite, to the acceleration remover? |
| 01:30.48 | a_meteorite | no, to the acceleration software |
| 01:31.07 | Winny | aka the acceleration remover |
| 01:31.54 | a_meteorite | I don't get it |
| 01:31.57 | Winny | uh |
| 01:31.59 | a_meteorite | Acceleration isn't built in to OS X |
| 01:32.09 | Winny | yes it is... apple does it by default |
| 01:32.13 | a_meteorite | what...? |
| 01:32.26 | a_meteorite | my mouse moves at a constant speed |
| 01:34.05 | Winny | what mouse do you use? |
| 01:35.35 | a_meteorite | macally |
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| 01:47.40 | Lukstr | Mentors and co: New post on my blag. |
| 01:49.43 | Winny | Lukstr, where's your blog again? I wanna read |
| 01:49.51 | Lukstr | libbzw.blogger.com |
| 01:49.55 | Lukstr | making an edit |
| 01:50.57 | Winny | open dns can't get to it... nice |
| 01:51.06 | Lukstr | hahahah |
| 01:51.10 | Lukstr | opendns is crap |
| 01:51.36 | Winny | figured they'd be better then rogers, heh |
| 01:51.46 | Lukstr | I switched back to rogers |
| 01:51.56 | Lukstr | I dislike their searching thing |
| 01:52.39 | Constitution | s/blogger/blogspot/? |
| 01:52.51 | Lukstr | should work for either |
| 01:53.22 | Lukstr | oh |
| 01:53.22 | Lukstr | odd |
| 01:53.29 | Lukstr | good call Constitution |
| 01:53.34 | Lukstr | blogger is the editing frontend |
| 01:54.03 | Lukstr | http://libbzw.blogspot.com/ |
| 01:57.37 | Lukstr | oh dear |
| 01:59.19 | Lukstr | 15 edits later... |
| 02:00.05 | Lukstr | 16 edits... |
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| 02:04.56 | Winny | in regards to the newest person applying for a group, "Hax", what is your policy in giving groups to cheaters? |
| 02:05.39 | Lukstr | Winny: who is that directed to? |
| 02:05.46 | Winny | BZBB admins |
| 02:08.12 | Winny | goes to find some TV |
| 02:08.19 | Lukstr | Would it be frowned upon to pass data enclosed in a struct or class to the object for creation after parsing? Object supplies defaults in structure to parser, parser parses an object, sets values in copy of structure, sends structure to object for creation/etc. ? |
| 02:11.41 | Lukstr | I just an epiphany of sorts |
| 02:11.43 | Lukstr | had |
| 02:11.48 | Lukstr | english I fail at |
| 02:15.46 | Lukstr | I'll be back in a few hours |
| 02:24.30 | brlcad | Lukstr: "it depends" |
| 02:25.03 | brlcad | and heavily at that .. on the surface, could be entirely reasonable if the structure it's filling in is generic and it's getting passed to some automatic factory that's pumping out the actual objects |
| 02:25.14 | brlcad | otherwise it could just as easily be a layer of useless complexity |
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| 03:35.20 | CIA-34 | BZFlag: 03bugQ * r18059 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/webadmin/webadmin.cpp: more keys, ifs, loops |
| 03:40.38 | spldart | bzzzt |
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| 03:42.47 | bugQ | oops |
| 03:43.22 | short_circuit | hehe |
| 03:43.45 | bugQ | getting tired, sorry |
| 03:44.09 | short_circuit | me too |
| 03:44.24 | short_circuit | And have to work yet another weekend |
| 03:44.43 | bugQ | um, how to call operator[] on a pointer? |
| 03:44.58 | bugQ | zyou'd think it would be simple, like ->[] |
| 03:45.15 | short_circuit | Not for the simple minded< |
| 03:45.16 | bugQ | oh duh. |
| 03:45.23 | bugQ | i really am tired |
| 03:45.24 | short_circuit | < |
| 03:45.59 | short_circuit | Get some rest.. and Don't sweat the rambling last nght |
| 03:46.19 | short_circuit | It was nice to see and helpful to get insight in the train of though |
| 03:46.24 | short_circuit | passes out |
| 03:46.42 | short_circuit | s/though/thought |
| 03:47.08 | CIA-34 | BZFlag: 03bugQ * r18060 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/webadmin/webadmin.cpp: errorfixes |
| 03:49.56 | bugQ | right then, g'night |
| 03:51.45 | short_circuit | 2001 a space odysea!!!!!! |
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| 04:35.21 | KingofCamelot | Anyone around? |
| 04:37.39 | blast007 | nope |
| 04:37.43 | blast007 | nobody but us chickens! |
| 04:37.46 | blast007 | *clucks* |
| 04:40.16 | KingofCamelot | Haha |
| 04:40.24 | KingofCamelot | Ok...gotta make this quick cause I'm about to run |
| 04:40.38 | blast007 | k |
| 04:40.57 | KingofCamelot | So DTRemenak suggested that HUDuiControls should obey their set size, because I need it for my ScrollList class and he said it was a good idea in general |
| 04:41.11 | KingofCamelot | However, none of the current labels or anything have a set size |
| 04:41.23 | KingofCamelot | So making label's obey their size makes them all invisible |
| 04:41.40 | KingofCamelot | Obviously it would be a lot of modification to go through and fix all the sizes and make it scale correctly, etc |
| 04:42.08 | KingofCamelot | So I was thinking I could just do an alternative constructor for labels with a boolean as whether or not they obey their size or not |
| 04:42.17 | a_meteorite | ~roulette |
| 04:42.17 | ibot | ACTION watches a_meteorite pull the trigger: Click! |
| 04:42.44 | KingofCamelot | Seem like a reasonable work around? |
| 04:43.33 | blast007 | shrugs |
| 04:43.53 | blast007 | I'm not familiar with that code |
| 04:44.31 | KingofCamelot | Hmm, k. I just need to find a not very intrusive way of doing it, cause fixing all the menus is just a no go. :P |
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| 05:21.54 | JeffM | wonders how far from Constitution he is |
| 05:36.15 | Winny | JeffM, not far enough! |
| 05:36.28 | JeffM | closer now actualy |
| 05:40.44 | Constitution | depends :) |
| 05:41.22 | JeffM | I'm in snowflake now |
| 05:42.09 | Constitution | wow |
| 05:42.18 | blast007 | he's stalking you! |
| 05:42.20 | Constitution | way east |
| 05:42.21 | blast007 | RUN! |
| 05:42.28 | Constitution | but you must've driven right by me :) |
| 05:42.35 | JeffM | I took the 40 |
| 05:42.53 | Constitution | yeah, probably drove within 40-50 miles |
| 05:43.11 | JeffM | I'll shout "Get to work" when I drive back sunday |
| 05:44.19 | Constitution | I've been working :) |
| 05:44.56 | JeffM | Iknow |
| 05:45.09 | Constitution | between the episodes of raging madness brought on by having bugs lead to bugs lead to further bugs ten layers deep, only to have the original indicator suddenly disappear |
| 05:45.18 | JeffM | heh |
| 05:45.32 | JeffM | imagine if you'd had to do the shot branch from scratch tho |
| 05:45.40 | Constitution | true |
| 05:45.55 | JeffM | it is a much more dificult task then I think any of us realised |
| 05:46.39 | JeffM | but it must be done and the world will be much better off when it is complete |
| 05:47.04 | Constitution | right |
| 05:47.53 | Constitution | when you coming back through this way? maybe I could swing up to ash fork and say hi :) |
| 05:49.19 | JeffM | may not have time |
| 05:49.25 | JeffM | I do the drive in one day |
| 05:49.26 | JeffM | solo |
| 05:49.29 | JeffM | but maybe |
| 05:49.37 | Constitution | mmk |
| 05:49.49 | JeffM | looks at where the hell ash fork is |
| 05:50.20 | JeffM | just after williams? |
| 05:50.38 | Constitution | somewhere in there |
| 05:51.18 | JeffM | I'd probably be thru there at like 10AM |
| 05:51.26 | Constitution | tomorrow? |
| 05:51.30 | JeffM | sunday |
| 05:51.43 | Constitution | hmm, k, probably can't do |
| 05:51.56 | JeffM | yeah I leave prety early |
| 05:52.31 | JeffM | cus there is that SUCK part from needles to barstow |
| 05:52.40 | Winny | gotta get to those spelling lessons? ;) |
| 05:52.54 | JeffM | gotta get HOME |
| 05:52.58 | JeffM | cus I have to work monday |
| 05:53.51 | JeffM | http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&hl=en&geocode=&saddr=moorpark+CA&daddr=Snowflake,+AZ&sll=34.51957,-110.078888&sspn=0.140589,0.237579&ie=UTF8&z=6 |
| 05:53.58 | JeffM | that's my drive |
| 05:54.06 | Constitution | wow long |
| 05:56.19 | JeffM | gotta love the part that says "Continue straight onto I-40 E 439 mi" |
| 06:04.29 | BulletCatcher | If you're lucky you'll find a V flag. |
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| 10:44.03 | Zw3rgy | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:44.28 | Zw3rgy | at quols 1vs1 who can come plz we need 1 who is registred to start a poll plz come there |
| 10:44.40 | whodaman | He's not registered? |
| 10:44.50 | whodaman | If he is, he can ghost that player |
| 10:47.36 | Zw3rgy | kk |
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| 12:07.47 | brlcad | Lukstr: ping |
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| 13:12.32 | spldart | Wow jeffm is 40% closer to me. I thought I sensed a distrubance in the force. |
| 13:25.57 | spldart | Time for work :( |
| 13:30.23 | brlcad | Lukstr: if/when you read this, http://bzflag.bz/~sean/bzw.tar.bz2 <-- can talk about what's in there more later, but it is the lex/yacc parser I worked on a while ago |
| 13:31.16 | brlcad | iirc, it was fairly complete and correct wrt the syntax parsing -- maybe shows you how to go about things with spirit (per your log update comments) |
| 13:42.08 | delusional | hmm, tristrips |
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| 14:25.01 | delusional | justice, if you are having problems getting on our server, you need to properlu identify with password |
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| 14:39.42 | Paul_PL | hello all |
| 14:40.56 | justice | hi mate |
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| 15:02.56 | JeffM | word up |
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| 15:53.42 | Scion | hi all |
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| 17:49.57 | Lukstr | brlcad: thanks, looking at it now |
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| 19:25.21 | KingofCamelot | Mmm...I hate hangovers, heh |
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| 19:27.29 | KingofCamelot | Actually I think I need to sleep this one off a bit longer before I can do work, lol |
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| 20:03.27 | Lukstr | mixes KingofCamelot a Caesar |
| 20:03.54 | tj13820 | All CoAM members, a new IRC channel is now setup. #Coam. |
| 20:08.44 | whodaman- | good god |
| 20:08.46 | whodaman- | stop spamming that |
| 20:10.24 | tj13820 | who? |
| 20:10.26 | tj13820 | me? |
| 20:10.30 | tj13820 | i just said it once xD |
| 20:13.07 | brad | what's coam? |
| 20:13.13 | brad | a team? |
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| 20:16.20 | tj13820 | no, community of american map makers |
| 20:16.45 | tj13820 | we share maps, and help each other with them. |
| 20:17.36 | Lukstr | why restricted to america? |
| 20:18.25 | tj13820 | because i host the servers, and I am located in america. We do have a few non-american members. Basically, the requirement is english. |
| 20:18.31 | CBG | ##bzw...? |
| 20:18.32 | tj13820 | :-) |
| 20:18.43 | Lukstr | ah, that's something altogether different :P |
| 20:18.52 | tj13820 | Yeah. |
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| 20:19.24 | tj13820 | It's not a bad idea. I hope it makes more people play the game, and cooperate on making community maps, and "team made maps" |
| 20:19.27 | tj13820 | a new concepts |
| 20:19.29 | tj13820 | concept* |
| 20:20.29 | CBG | Why make a new channel for the same purpose as an existing one? |
| 20:20.54 | brad | because it keeps out the non-americans :P |
| 20:21.08 | brad | we are not worthy |
| 20:21.21 | Lukstr | silly americans |
| 20:25.45 | Lukstr | brlcad: ping |
| 20:25.51 | tj13820 | no lol |
| 20:26.05 | tj13820 | because it is also something i wanted to learn how to do |
| 20:26.26 | Lukstr | I guess the ##bzw doesn't enforce english only? |
| 20:26.44 | tj13820 | set up 1. A webserver 2. MySQL 3. IRC 4. Game servers |
| 20:26.53 | tj13820 | i accomplished all 4 goals with this :-) |
| 20:27.12 | tj13820 | and it wasn't my idea to do any of it. I was just asked to do it |
| 20:35.16 | CBG | What does that matter? |
| 20:57.02 | brlcad | Lukstr: pongo |
| 20:57.23 | Lukstr | brlcad: I've came up with an idea that may or not be sane, I need to bounce it through you |
| 20:59.32 | Lukstr | If each object has a static method getDefaultParserObject or something, that returns either a class or templated class that is basically the default structure that would result from a parameterless object in a bzw file (i.e. "box \n end" would be the same as the default object) |
| 21:00.25 | Lukstr | so the parser would get a list of all the default objects for each object, thus knowing exactly what possible parameters there are |
| 21:00.39 | Lukstr | it parses and fills out fields in a copy object, sends that to the object constructor |
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| 21:02.16 | Lukstr | thus parsing is kept away from the objects |
| 21:02.23 | Lukstr | but the parser still knows what to expect |
| 21:03.10 | brlcad | doen't sound too unsane |
| 21:03.26 | brlcad | that still doesn't remove the need for validated lexing and format parsing |
| 21:03.30 | Lukstr | indeed |
| 21:03.37 | Lukstr | they will go hand in hand |
| 21:04.04 | Lukstr | the object provided would define all possible BZW entries for that object |
| 21:04.19 | Lukstr | so it's just a matter of the parser retreiving those and building a lexer/parser for it |
| 21:05.47 | brlcad | i wouldn't go too hog wild trying to make it purely abstracted, there are a lot of caveats that could make that really tricky, particularly for nested objects and references |
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| 21:06.12 | Lukstr | maybe |
| 21:06.13 | brlcad | there are some recursive definitions possible in bzw iirc |
| 21:06.24 | Lukstr | yeah, I think it'd manageable |
| 21:06.28 | Lukstr | *it's |
| 21:06.28 | brlcad | (that are valid) |
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| 21:06.49 | Lukstr | any examples of the extreme cases? |
| 21:06.59 | brlcad | not on me |
| 21:07.11 | brlcad | there is a fairly complex bzw in that tarball |
| 21:07.22 | brlcad | exercises some of the lod stuff |
| 21:07.53 | Lukstr | interesting |
| 21:08.43 | Lukstr | 264771 lines? O.o |
| 21:09.46 | brlcad | Lukstr: if you get stuck, I would recommend going the exact opposite approach, simply having a parser factory construct that knows about all of the bzw format (similar to the bzw.l and bzw.y I sent you) and it knows how those map to an in-memory bzw set of objects (knowing how to construct each of them) |
| 21:10.35 | brlcad | iff you get stuck |
| 21:11.39 | Lukstr | the easy way out :P |
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| 21:12.05 | Lukstr | yeah I don't want to be coding myself into a grave |
| 21:12.18 | brlcad | or if it ends up simply getting too overarchitected -- probably more important that it's simple than it be modular for long-term maintenance .. so the modular approach has to be easy to understand and extend (without being the author of that lib;) |
| 21:12.56 | Lukstr | yeah I'm only going to bother making it modular if I can guarantee it's flexible |
| 21:13.10 | Lukstr | otherwise the abstraction is overkill |
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| 21:50.42 | Lukstr | brlcad: what's recursive in that bzw file you provided? |
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| 22:01.31 | tj13820 | i'm trying to use mapchange, and it keeps re-starting on my server. Everytime i kill it off, it starts again. |
| 22:02.22 | tj13820 | how do i stop this? |
| 22:03.36 | brad | tj13820: locate the process that is restarting it and kill it? |
| 22:04.43 | tj13820 | there is no process that is restarting it. it is just "spawning" on it's own. for lack of better terms. |
| 22:05.07 | tj13820 | Do i need to load mapchange in all of my maps, or just the mapchange.sh script? |
| 22:05.21 | brad | doesnt know how it works |
| 22:05.26 | tj13820 | oh |
| 22:05.28 | tj13820 | that's what is wrong |
| 22:05.29 | tj13820 | xD |
| 22:05.40 | tj13820 | *punches self* |
| 22:08.31 | tj13820 | Plugin:/usr/local/lib/mapchange.so not found, error libssl.so.0.9.7: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 22:08.31 | tj13820 | - anyone know what this could mean? |
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| 23:33.51 | tj13820 | does anyone have a current Mapchange plugin? |
| 23:33.57 | tj13820 | in .so format? |
| 23:35.46 | Constitution | which one? |
| 23:36.12 | Gnurdux | doesnt bzflag have a built-in one now? |
| 23:36.15 | tj13820 | Optic Delusions one. |
| 23:36.27 | tj13820 | unless there is a better / easier one |
| 23:36.47 | JeffM | the 3.0 one is different |
| 23:37.08 | tj13820 | the API is different, and Gnurdux, it is too old in yours |
| 23:37.47 | Gnurdux | ? |
| 23:37.51 | Gnurdux | oh... |
| 23:37.53 | Gnurdux | the .so |
| 23:37.58 | tj13820 | yeah |
| 23:38.34 | Gnurdux | cant you compile one though? |
| 23:38.44 | tj13820 | i don't know how to compile plugins |
| 23:38.52 | Gnurdux | well, do you know how to compile bz? |
| 23:38.53 | tj13820 | and .so is debian compiled |
| 23:39.03 | Gnurdux | yep, i run debian |
| 23:39.17 | tj13820 | i get an error from optic delusions plugin |
| 23:39.20 | Gnurdux | so wait, what distro do you use? |
| 23:39.37 | tj13820 | ubuntu/debian |
| 23:39.41 | tj13820 | i use both |
| 23:39.43 | Gnurdux | ok |
| 23:39.45 | Gnurdux | so |
| 23:39.54 | Gnurdux | do you use the standard bzflag package? |
| 23:40.00 | Gnurdux | or do you compile your own? |
| 23:40.09 | tj13820 | i compiled BZ from SVN. i have 2.0.11 |
| 23:40.12 | Gnurdux | ok |
| 23:40.14 | Gnurdux | 1 sec |
| 23:40.24 | tj13820 | with plugins and shared enabled |
| 23:40.26 | tj13820 | kk |
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| 23:42.32 | Gnurdux | ok, sending file |
| 23:42.33 | Gnurdux | accept it |
| 23:42.37 | tj13820 | okay |
| 23:43.10 | tj13820 | wait, it cancelled with an error. |
| 23:43.15 | tj13820 | "connection refused" |
| 23:43.17 | tj13820 | try again |
| 23:43.24 | Gnurdux | ill just put it on my webserver |
| 23:43.29 | tj13820 | okay |
| 23:43.30 | tj13820 | :-) |
| 23:43.35 | tj13820 | that'll help everyone |
| 23:43.51 | Gnurdux | http://gnurdux.homelinux.net/mapchange.tgz |
| 23:43.58 | tj13820 | now do i use the same .sh script and mapchange.out etc.? |
| 23:44.02 | Gnurdux | yeah |
| 23:44.03 | Gnurdux | but |
| 23:44.06 | Gnurdux | heres what you do |
| 23:44.08 | Gnurdux | to compile it |
| 23:44.21 | Gnurdux | extract it in the plugins directory of the bzflag source |
| 23:45.23 | tj13820 | and just compile it again? |
| 23:45.26 | Gnurdux | no |
| 23:45.30 | tj13820 | oh |
| 23:45.34 | Gnurdux | edit plugins/Makefile.am |
| 23:45.39 | Gnurdux | theres a list of plugins in there |
| 23:45.41 | Gnurdux | add mapchange |
| 23:45.52 | Gnurdux | same with configure.ac |
| 23:45.56 | Gnurdux | then redo autogen |
| 23:45.57 | Gnurdux | configure |
| 23:45.59 | Gnurdux | make |
| 23:46.06 | Gnurdux | that certainly works |
| 23:46.19 | tj13820 | do i have to completely re-install BZFlag? |
| 23:46.21 | Gnurdux | although actually it might be possible to just manually edit the makefile |
| 23:46.27 | Gnurdux | come to think of it, probably not |
| 23:46.46 | tj13820 | because i run 2.11 now, i would have to update it to 2.12 |
| 23:46.51 | tj13820 | n:-( |
| 23:47.12 | tj13820 | how could i compile this into a .so? |
| 23:47.26 | Gnurdux | ok |
| 23:47.30 | tj13820 | without re-doing the whole package |
| 23:47.32 | Gnurdux | well |
| 23:47.39 | Gnurdux | try just extracting it into the plugins directory |
| 23:48.02 | tj13820 | oh |
| 23:48.03 | tj13820 | xD |
| 23:48.07 | tj13820 | i should try that |
| 23:48.23 | tj13820 | it should recognize a valid mapchange plugin if i don't use a mime type |
| 23:48.27 | Gnurdux | no |
| 23:48.36 | Gnurdux | theres no .so there |
| 23:48.37 | Gnurdux | just the code |
| 23:48.48 | Gnurdux | extract it into the plugins directory |
| 23:48.51 | Gnurdux | of the source tree |
| 23:49.34 | Gnurdux | and then do make |
| 23:49.47 | Gnurdux | inside its subdirectory of plugins |
| 23:49.52 | Gnurdux | and it should produce an so |
| 23:49.58 | tj13820 | ahh |
| 23:50.08 | Gnurdux | however |
| 23:50.10 | tj13820 | so just use the source as a container to make the plugin |
| 23:50.13 | Gnurdux | the so will be in the hidden directory |
| 23:50.18 | Gnurdux | .libs |
| 23:50.22 | tj13820 | hmm |
| 23:50.36 | Gnurdux | you then copy it to your binary plugins directory |
| 23:50.39 | Gnurdux | and it hsould work out |
| 23:50.44 | tj13820 | i'll try that. |
| 23:50.46 | tj13820 | thank you |
| 23:50.50 | Gnurdux | np |
| 23:59.31 | tj13820 | Gnurdux: all i have to do is add the directory to the makefile.am, correct? |