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| 00:10.03 | whodaman- | JeffM, ping |
| 00:10.16 | JeffM | ? |
| 00:19.27 | spldart | bounces around the room ecstatic in his latest acquisition of used compy hardware :) |
| 00:21.21 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03bthansen * r17910 10/trunk/bzflag/src/common/bzfio.cxx: Whitespace |
| 00:47.23 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03bullet_catcher * r17911 10/branches/v2_0branch/bzflag/DEVINFO: Remove reference to departed "doc" directory. |
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| 05:43.06 | whodaman- | ~bzflist |
| 05:43.16 | whodaman- | ^^ |
| 05:43.51 | BulletCatcher | The server isn't responding to me, either. |
| 05:44.56 | whodaman- | fail |
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| 06:05.32 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03bullet_catcher * r17912 10/trunk/bzflag/ (5 files in 3 dirs): Add the Subversion property svn:executable to a few scripts that want to be executable. |
| 06:06.05 | BulletCatcher | Can't play, might as well code. |
| 06:06.09 | brlcad | probably maintenance routing |
| 06:06.20 | brlcad | ~bzflist |
| 06:06.30 | BulletCatcher | Much better. |
| 06:07.14 | BulletCatcher | brlcad: did you see my question about .bmp file MIME types? |
| 06:07.32 | brlcad | i've not read the backlog yet, so no |
| 06:07.38 | BulletCatcher | I'll be patient. |
| 06:09.31 | BulletCatcher | goes to get pwned at Ducati |
| 06:19.13 | brlcad | BulletCatcher: image/bmp is fine, any type that apache recognizes by default is probably alright even if it's an unofficial type (so long as browser behavior is still sane if it's a binary type) |
| 06:32.12 | BulletCatcher | k |
| 07:16.30 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03bullet_catcher * r17913 10/trunk/bzflag/package/win32/nsis/ (DisableCheck.bmp EnableCheck.bmp header.bmp side.bmp): For the .bmp files, remove the svn:keywords and svn:eol-style Subversion properties where found and set their svn:mime-type property to image/bmp. |
| 07:29.14 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03bullet_catcher * r17914 10/trunk/bzflag/data/fonts/ (3 files): For .ttf files change the Subversion property svn:mime-type from font/ttf, which is not recognized anywhere, to application/octet-stream which is official and essentially means "generic binary". |
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| 08:52.42 | KingofCamelot | Anyone around? |
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| 09:57.32 | IronRage | is anyone an admin for bzflagr.net |
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| 10:35.11 | donny_baker | IronRage: i am |
| 10:35.17 | IronRage | donny_baker, |
| 10:35.18 | IronRage | sweet |
| 10:35.19 | IronRage | what1 |
| 10:35.22 | IronRage | was team killing |
| 10:35.25 | IronRage | saying he was an admin |
| 10:35.31 | IronRage | and being a huge jerk |
| 10:35.42 | IronRage | he accused me of masq cheating |
| 10:35.43 | IronRage | w/e that is |
| 10:35.59 | donny_baker | ok... dont see him there right now |
| 10:36.08 | donny_baker | will take a look at it |
| 10:37.34 | IronRage | i explained why i switched colors |
| 10:37.35 | IronRage | because |
| 10:37.36 | IronRage | 3 of us |
| 10:37.41 | IronRage | his score was -40 or something |
| 10:37.46 | IronRage | the green was up there |
| 10:37.48 | IronRage | both of us |
| 10:37.52 | IronRage | so i switched to even i tout |
| 10:39.18 | IronRage | and he said i was masq cheating |
| 10:39.21 | IronRage | and started killing me |
| 10:39.27 | IronRage | and he did it to lots of others |
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| 10:39.30 | IronRage | he had like |
| 10:39.37 | IronRage | 30+ team kills donny_baker |
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| 13:18.09 | think_tank | 30+ team kills eh? on an auto-tk-kick server... |
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| 13:30.28 | whodaman- | heh |
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| 14:25.02 | spldart | Anyone have a link to a nice bzflag image that would make a nice poster if I were to stretch it to say 22" by 30" orso |
| 14:27.04 | Winny | spldart, http://bzfusion.net/bzflag/posters/Concept121.jpg dunno if that's OK |
| 14:29.47 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03chaos-dev * r17915 10/trunk/bzwgen/ (inc/BaseZone.h inc/Output.h src/Mesh.cxx): Output class cleared and made format semi-independent |
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| 14:56.14 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03chaos-dev * r17916 10/trunk/bzwgen/inc/graph/Face.h: Face constructor, addEdge and size() |
| 15:01.05 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03chaos-dev * r17917 10/trunk/bzwgen/ (5 files in 3 dirs): |
| 15:01.05 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: * Plane was obsolete, removed |
| 15:01.05 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: * Graph -> PlanarGraph, we don't need a separate Graph class anyway |
| 15:04.16 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03chaos-dev * r17918 10/trunk/bzwgen/inc/graph/PlanarGraph.h: Update of the PlanarGraph class |
| 15:04.26 | spldart | thanks winny |
| 15:06.30 | Winny | sure |
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| 15:22.15 | spldart | I'm goin with concept 18 |
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| 15:27.33 | Epyon | A face in terms of 3D graphics is rather a triangle, right? |
| 15:27.47 | Epyon | So what would be a good name for a face with more than 3 vertices? |
| 15:28.00 | Winny | a quad? |
| 15:28.02 | Epyon | needs to disambiguate Face from Face :P |
| 15:28.16 | Winny | no renderers I know of do more then 4 verts in a face |
| 15:28.24 | JeffM | Epyon: a face can have more then 3 |
| 15:28.28 | JeffM | if it has 3, it's a triangle |
| 15:28.41 | JeffM | a triangle is a type of face |
| 15:28.46 | Epyon | I need a substitute name for multi-vertex 3d shape. |
| 15:28.52 | JeffM | face |
| 15:28.53 | Epyon | I think polygon would be the best. |
| 15:28.57 | JeffM | or that |
| 15:29.11 | JeffM | why diferentiate between triangles and faces? |
| 15:29.20 | JeffM | triangles are just faces with 3 versts |
| 15:29.24 | JeffM | we don't special case them |
| 15:29.32 | Epyon | Well because in the current sources I have a Mesh face and a graph Face class |
| 15:29.43 | donny_baker | and all faces can be made with triangles (or at least approximated) |
| 15:29.51 | Epyon | It'd be better to differentiate the names. |
| 15:29.51 | JeffM | donny_baker: not true |
| 15:29.56 | donny_baker | really |
| 15:30.03 | JeffM | only planar ones can be |
| 15:30.07 | Epyon | Or find a better name for a graph face |
| 15:30.20 | donny_baker | that is why i said approximated |
| 15:30.52 | JeffM | Epyon: why do they have to be different? don't they contain very similar data? |
| 15:31.09 | Epyon | One is a face in 2D space, the other is a face in 3d spac |
| 15:31.14 | Epyon | space* |
| 15:31.20 | JeffM | why in 2d? |
| 15:31.34 | Epyon | because the graph is a planar graph in 2d. |
| 15:31.41 | JeffM | like top down view? |
| 15:31.45 | Epyon | I'm not crazy enough to make a 3d graph :P |
| 15:31.47 | Epyon | Yep. |
| 15:31.56 | JeffM | call it a planface then |
| 15:32.02 | JeffM | or graphface |
| 15:32.07 | JeffM | so you know exactly what it is |
| 15:32.16 | JeffM | face2d |
| 15:33.30 | Epyon | Well, I don't need to differentiate them anyhow, because graph has a separate namespace |
| 15:33.45 | Epyon | However, I'd be more inclined to change the 3d face name. |
| 15:35.43 | Epyon | MeshFace :D |
| 15:35.54 | Epyon | That seems to be the most logical way. |
| 15:36.12 | Epyon | Especialy that these Faces are always a part of a Mesh class. |
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| 15:44.14 | Manu | how is going Epyon? :) |
| 15:44.26 | Epyon | Behind schedule but full speed. |
| 15:44.36 | Manu | I see |
| 15:44.56 | Epyon | I'm pressing to get some visual and content-wise work before the midterms. |
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| 15:45.21 | Epyon | However, I underestimated planar graph implementation problems. |
| 15:45.38 | Manu | happens :) |
| 16:01.36 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03chaos-dev * r17919 10/trunk/bzwgen/ (7 files in 3 dirs): |
| 16:01.36 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: * Face.h given a unique .h guard |
| 16:01.36 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: * Graph -> PlanarGraph in includes |
| 16:01.37 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: * corrected a few comments |
| 16:01.37 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: * added proper connection adding to planar graph |
| 16:01.37 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: * reverse handling for edges |
| 16:06.46 | Epyon | Copy constructor is ObjectName(ObjectName&) right? |
| 16:06.52 | JeffM | const |
| 16:07.09 | Epyon | const ObjectName& ? |
| 16:07.17 | JeffM | yes |
| 16:07.22 | Epyon | thanks |
| 16:07.26 | JeffM | you can't modify the thing you were copying from |
| 16:11.47 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03chaos-dev * r17920 10/trunk/bzwgen/inc/graph/ (Edge.h Face.h Node.h): Blocked copy and default constructors for Faces, Edges and Nodes |
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| 16:43.46 | Epyon | If I block a default and copy constructor in a class (by making them private) will classes that derive from them also have them blocked by default? |
| 16:45.45 | JeffM | depends if they have there own constructor or not |
| 16:46.18 | JeffM | if they don't the yes they would be |
| 16:46.21 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03chaos-dev * r17921 10/trunk/bzwgen/inc/ (6 files in 2 dirs): |
| 16:46.21 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: * Node::setGraph not needed anymore because of the constructor change |
| 16:46.21 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: * Zone will now have it's separate "run" method |
| 16:46.21 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: * Zone class cleaned up, commented, and prepared for further refactoring (towards graph-based implementation) |
| 16:46.31 | Epyon | JeffM, that's good :) |
| 16:46.47 | JeffM | thats how the singleton class we have works |
| 16:47.05 | JeffM | the singleton base class has a private constructor, so all the derived versions do as well |
| 16:49.54 | Epyon | BZFlag bases are rectangles, or square only? |
| 16:50.20 | Epyon | Looking at the BZW definition, they could be rectangles, but somehow I don't see it visually. |
| 16:50.57 | Winny | they can be rectangles |
| 16:51.06 | Winny | although most people don't do it 'cause it stretches the textures |
| 16:51.18 | Epyon | Axis aligned only? |
| 16:52.10 | Winny | hmm? |
| 16:52.16 | Winny | as in, no rotation? |
| 16:52.20 | Epyon | yeah |
| 16:52.32 | JeffM | there is a rotatation |
| 16:52.36 | Winny | they can be rotated... unless something changes |
| 16:52.38 | JeffM | they ARE boxes |
| 16:54.11 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03bullet_catcher * r17922 10/trunk/bzflag/ (14 files in 14 dirs): |
| 16:54.11 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: Add Makefile and Makefile.in to the Subversion svn:ignore property of some directories that need it. |
| 16:54.11 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: Also add .deps and/or .libs where appropriate. |
| 17:03.47 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03chaos-dev * r17923 10/trunk/bzwgen/ (inc/BaseZone.h src/GridMap.cxx): |
| 17:03.47 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: * BaseZone refactored and commented |
| 17:03.47 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: * GridMap temporarily is responsible for running run() on all generated zones |
| 17:22.08 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03chaos-dev * r17924 10/trunk/bzwgen/ (5 files in 2 dirs): FloorZone and BuildZone now have proper run methods, and are doxy-commented |
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| 18:28.59 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03chaos-dev * r17925 10/trunk/bzwgen/ (9 files in 2 dirs): |
| 18:28.59 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: * Zones are now handeled by the Generator class (Zones will not be axis-aligned, but Face based later) |
| 18:28.59 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: * GridGenerator cleaned up and fully commented. |
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| 19:19.34 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03bthansen * r17926 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzadmin/BZAdminClient.cxx: Whitespace |
| 19:19.47 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03bthansen * r17927 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzadmin/bzadmin.cxx: Whitespace |
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| 19:19.55 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03bthansen * r17928 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzflag/CacheMenu.cxx: Whitespace |
| 19:20.06 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03bthansen * r17929 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzflag/ClientIntangibilityManager.h: Whitespace |
| 19:20.18 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03bthansen * r17930 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzflag/ComposeDefaultKey.cxx: Whitespace |
| 19:20.35 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03bthansen * r17931 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzflag/ControlPanel.cxx: Whitespace |
| 19:20.45 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03bthansen * r17932 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzflag/SceneBuilder.cxx: Whitespace |
| 19:21.24 | BulletCatcher | Shouldn't we give equal time to other colors? |
| 19:21.35 | JeffM | bluespace |
| 19:22.49 | ruskie | lol |
| 19:23.10 | JeffM | but then that makes you presume that bzflag is a fair and equal democracy ;) |
| 19:23.41 | Winny | redspace? |
| 19:23.53 | JeffM | beter dead then red |
| 19:23.56 | ruskie | pinkspace! |
| 19:23.57 | Winny | hehe |
| 19:24.03 | Winny | ~JeffM++ |
| 19:24.12 | ruskie | L space |
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| 19:37.17 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03chaos-dev * r17933 10/trunk/bzwgen/ (7 files in 3 dirs): |
| 19:37.17 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: * GridGenerator handles all grid related tasks |
| 19:37.17 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: * Cleaned up GridGenerator and added missing comments |
| 19:37.17 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: * Removed GridMap completely |
| 19:53.18 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03bullet_catcher * r17934 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/plugin_utils/plugin_utils.cpp: sscanf() wants to store the results of %x in an unsigned int, not just an int. |
| 20:00.26 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03bullet_catcher * r17935 10/trunk/bzflag/src/3D/FontManager.cxx: Wrap two std::cout calls in "#if debugging" to silence all debug output when "#define debugging 0" is used. |
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| 20:21.35 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03chaos-dev * r17936 10/trunk/bzwgen/ (6 files in 3 dirs): |
| 20:21.35 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: * Bugfixes and a few added methods in graph |
| 20:21.35 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: * Generator has a PlanarGraph now |
| 20:21.35 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: * GridGenerator pushes faces in growZone |
| 20:41.18 | whodaman- | ~Manu++ |
| 20:41.22 | whodaman- | Great playing :p |
| 20:41.53 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03bullet_catcher * r17937 10/trunk/bzflag/man/Makefile.am: The bzfquery.6 file is created by a "make" command, so remove it using "make clean" rather than "make distclean". |
| 20:42.32 | Manu | thanks whodaman- :) |
| 20:42.40 | whodaman- | ~germany-- |
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| 20:49.06 | KTL | trunk compiles on linux 64bit |
| 20:49.17 | BulletCatcher | Which distro? |
| 20:50.38 | KTL | debian unstable |
| 20:51.29 | BulletCatcher | That's helpful. Thanks. I use 64-bit Fedora 8. |
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| 21:29.38 | jftsang | hello |
| 21:29.48 | jftsang | with -admsg, can I get bzfs to run a slash command |
| 21:29.56 | jftsang | such as, say, /playerlist |
| 21:30.29 | delusional | we do that with bzfscron at mofo |
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| 21:32.22 | blast007 | jftsang: the answer is no for your question :) |
| 21:32.32 | blast007 | and even if you could run /playerlist, uh, who would that go to? |
| 21:35.35 | jftsang | well, I want a logging bzadmin to display the playerlist every now and then |
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| 21:39.11 | temp_dist | that's definitely the job for a cron |
| 21:39.32 | blast007 | cron, awaaaay! *flying cron jobs* |
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| 21:50.55 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03chaos-dev * r17938 10/trunk/bzwgen/ (17 files in 5 dirs): |
| 21:50.55 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: * order in the Graph hierarchy, Face::getNodes implemented among others |
| 21:50.55 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: * Zones no longer use Coord2Ds, they use whatever shaped graph Faces they get |
| 21:50.55 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: * Coord2D no longer needed for anything |
| 21:50.55 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: * GridGenerator now works properly on the underlying graph |
| 21:51.54 | Epyon | Woah, that was fun |
| 21:52.55 | blast007 | jftsang: mod bzadmin then |
| 21:53.18 | blast007 | or write a plugin that sends that data to the admin channel periodically (assuming it can) |
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| 22:11.19 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03bthansen * r17939 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzflag/ScoreboardRenderer.cxx: Whitespace |
| 22:13.14 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03chaos-dev * r17940 10/trunk/bzwgen/ (8 files in 3 dirs): |
| 22:13.14 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: * Material.cxx removed (contents moved to Material.h) |
| 22:13.14 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: * Material.h commented, cleaned up, and refactored |
| 22:13.14 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: * few minor style fixes |
| 22:13.16 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03bthansen * r17941 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzflag/ServerMenu.cxx: Whitespace |
| 22:14.32 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03bthansen * r17942 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzflag/ShotPath.h: Whitespace |
| 22:14.38 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03bthansen * r17943 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzflag/bzflag.cxx: Whitespace |
| 22:15.52 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03bthansen * r17944 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzflag/playerAvatarManager.h: Whitespace |
| 22:16.35 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03chaos-dev * r17945 10/trunk/bzwgen/inc/ (BaseZone.h BuildZone.h FloorZone.h Zone.h): Comments/documentation update |
| 22:22.07 | Wyk3d | @mentors: http://my.bzflag.org/w/BZAuthd#Network_Protocol .. stamp of approval needed |
| 22:23.31 | Epyon | It get's my "must-be-wise-cause-I-dont-get-it" stamp :P |
| 22:26.55 | Wyk3d | well it seems clear enough to me .. what don't you get ? |
| 22:28.13 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03chaos-dev * r17946 10/trunk/bzwgen/ (11 files in 3 dirs): Since boost::shared_ptr is not going to be used, typedefing *Ptr has no reason anymore and only makes things unclear |
| 22:29.04 | JBdiGriz | For just the network protocol, it seems simple enough. I wouldn't let a stamp of approval stop you from proceeding. |
| 22:30.02 | JBdiGriz | We might want some version information in the header in case we ever want to upgrade in a semi-sane fashion. |
| 22:31.24 | Wyk3d | i figured the header probably won't need to change between versions |
| 22:31.32 | Wyk3d | i mean, however you do it |
| 22:31.41 | Wyk3d | you'll always have opcodes and a data of some size |
| 22:31.49 | JBdiGriz | The opcodes available might change between versions. |
| 22:32.03 | Wyk3d | yes, that's why the very first opcodes that are sent |
| 22:32.07 | Wyk3d | the version opcodes |
| 22:32.10 | Wyk3d | will never change |
| 22:32.13 | Wyk3d | but everything else might |
| 22:33.03 | Wyk3d | i'll add lots and lots more detail on that soon, just wanted to make sure step 1 is ok :) |
| 22:33.27 | jftsang | you have to be 18 to do GSoC, right? |
| 22:33.34 | jftsang | or is it 16 |
| 22:34.09 | JBdiGriz | Check the faq's for GSoC. I don't recall an age limit, but you have to be a student. |
| 22:34.42 | JBdiGriz | Keep adding the detail, most of the comments will be based on the lack of it right now. |
| 22:35.05 | Wyk3d | k |
| 22:40.24 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03chaos-dev * r17947 10/trunk/bzwgen/ (7 files in 3 dirs): |
| 22:40.24 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: * filtering of Zone related files in MSVC |
| 22:40.24 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: * unneccessary include cleanup |
| 22:40.24 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: * style cleanup |
| 22:43.12 | whodaman- | ~Saturos++ |
| 22:49.46 | Epyon | BTW, does GCC 4.3 support nameless unions? |
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| 22:50.05 | Epyon | Just out of curiosity, I wouldn't use that for BZW anyway. |
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| 22:50.30 | JeffM | __,wtf.... |
| 22:50.37 | JeffM | oh |
| 22:50.40 | Epyon | An imposter! |
| 22:50.52 | JeffM | stupid double click |
| 22:51.38 | Epyon | JeffM, do you know if GCC 4.3 supports nameless unions? Just out of curiosity. |
| 22:52.07 | JeffM | what is a nameless union? |
| 22:53.06 | Epyon | one moment, I'll give you an example |
| 22:53.13 | AAA_awright | Like an anonymous union? |
| 22:54.52 | JeffM | must not give into your mom joke |
| 22:54.59 | AAA_awright | Hahaha |
| 22:55.54 | Epyon | in a Vector2D class -- union { struct { float x, y; }; struct { float s,t; }; float _array[2]; }; |
| 22:56.22 | JeffM | eww |
| 22:56.27 | Epyon | What allows you to write vec2.x, or vec2.s, or vec2[0] meaning the same. |
| 22:56.38 | JeffM | I always just use accessors |
| 22:56.59 | JeffM | you'll have to try it and see |
| 22:57.22 | Epyon | http://pastebin.bzflag.bz/m7fdc245f |
| 22:57.56 | Epyon | This ones from nVidia's vec3<class T> implementation. |
| 22:58.14 | JeffM | if nvidia does it,it's probalby ok |
| 22:58.14 | Epyon | It does come handy. |
| 22:58.18 | JeffM | but still ,eww |
| 22:58.46 | JeffM | I never saw the need to have S and T memebers in the UV classes |
| 22:59.10 | JeffM | X and Y make just as much sense if you look them as the texture coordinates that they are |
| 22:59.11 | Epyon | Butr under -W4 gives a warning on MSVC - "non-standard extension used : nameless struct/union", so I wondered if it compiles under GCC |
| 22:59.30 | JeffM | ahh |
| 22:59.33 | JeffM | then don't use it |
| 22:59.56 | Epyon | I don't plan on using it in BZWG, I was thinking generally |
| 23:00.06 | JeffM | try it and see |
| 23:00.18 | Epyon | No GCC 4.3 handy :/ |
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| 23:00.25 | blast007 | heh... |
| 23:00.32 | JeffM | lame excuse |
| 23:03.34 | JeffM | or just google search |
| 23:03.42 | JeffM | http://developer.apple.com/documentation/DeveloperTools/gcc-4.0.1/gcc/Unnamed-Fields.html |
| 23:04.16 | JeffM | it sounds like many do it for compatability with some other compiler, but it's not a good idea |
| 23:04.19 | Epyon | I did one, but the first 3 results didn't answer |
| 23:04.26 | blast007 | that's GCC 4.0.1 as well |
| 23:04.38 | blast007 | oh, wait, you asked about 4.3 |
| 23:04.46 | blast007 | had reversed that in his head ;) |
| 23:04.48 | JeffM | one can assume that if it's a compatability thing, it will not have changed |
| 23:05.00 | JeffM | and I doubt it's going to be put as part of the standard |
| 23:05.06 | JeffM | so basicly, NO, don't do them |
| 23:05.19 | Epyon | I wonder why nvidia uses them then :/ |
| 23:05.20 | JeffM | compilers |
| 23:05.28 | JeffM | cus someone at nvidia likes them |
| 23:05.37 | JeffM | at some point it'll break and they will fix i t |
| 23:05.41 | Epyon | Guess so |
| 23:05.55 | JeffM | compilers seem to support it begrudently, so I can see it being removed later |
| 23:06.44 | JeffM | nvidia dosn't have to care about global compatiablity with all compilers |
| 23:07.28 | Epyon | BTW, can I use code that I written myself for BZFlag in other projects under another licence? As long as I was the only one that contributed to that code? |
| 23:08.01 | JeffM | techincaly you turned copytright over to tim, but I don't think we care |
| 23:08.37 | Epyon | It's something as minor as copying part of MathUtils |
| 23:08.47 | Epyon | Instead of rewriting it from scratch |
| 23:09.00 | JeffM | what license will it go to? |
| 23:09.03 | DTRemenak | you can always use code that you wrote yourself for any purpose, as long as it is not a "work for hire." |
| 23:09.14 | JeffM | there ya go :) |
| 23:09.50 | DTRemenak | and nothing you do for bzflag is counted as a "work for hire" - we only ask for nonexclusive copyright. you're welcome to relicense your own code elsewhere at any time, for any purpose. |
| 23:09.50 | Epyon | :> |
| 23:10.38 | JBdiGriz | Afer all, NVIDIA is the ultimate decision maker for C |
| 23:10.40 | JeffM | I've only ever gone from my own stuff into bzflag, never out. good to know |
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| 23:12.48 | DTRemenak | by checking it in to bzflag, you're saying it's ok for Tim to relicense it at any time, for any purpose, also, just like you...but we never ask you to give up your own rights. |
| 23:15.02 | JBdiGriz | Those type of structures allow you to access hardware or network packets in more obvious ways. |
| 23:15.59 | JBdiGriz | The simplest way to avoid the warning is to give it a nonsense name. |
| 23:23.22 | Wyk3d | added more detail .. |
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| 23:51.37 | JeffM | where is sdl.h on linux these days? SDL/sdl.h or just sdl.h? |
| 23:59.54 | spldart | #/usr/include/SDL/sdl.h |
| 23:59.58 | spldart | deb etch |
