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| 00:27.53 | JeffM | ahhh.. back to a real OS. time to figure out why cookies arn't parsing :) |
| 00:28.11 | JeffM | hmm, someone updated the plugins file, was the issue with bz_loadPlugin found? |
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| 00:33.43 | spldart | You linux hater -_- |
| 00:33.48 | spldart | ;-) |
| 00:34.17 | JeffM | not my fault if it just dosn't work and this does |
| 00:34.26 | spldart | heh |
| 00:34.45 | spldart | will continue to stick it to the man |
| 00:34.53 | JeffM | it won't run my displays the way I want on the desktop |
| 00:35.01 | JeffM | and it won't connect to wireless on the laptop |
| 00:36.03 | spldart | Heh.. I've had some interesting times with wireless and xorg ;-)... But still. I feel rewarded. |
| 00:36.12 | JeffM | and I don't have time or desire to poke at it untill it works |
| 00:36.16 | a_meteorite | it seems that wireless chipset manufacturers are even worse than video cards |
| 00:36.20 | spldart | hahaa |
| 00:36.22 | JeffM | this is intel |
| 00:36.28 | JeffM | the drivers see the hardware |
| 00:36.28 | spldart | ah |
| 00:36.31 | JeffM | the hardware sees the network |
| 00:36.37 | spldart | Most of my experience has be atheros and ralink |
| 00:36.38 | JeffM | won't connect to save it's life |
| 00:36.42 | a_meteorite | heh fubn |
| 00:36.43 | a_meteorite | fun |
| 00:37.09 | a_meteorite | spldart: atheros works most of the time thanks to madwifi |
| 00:37.27 | spldart | Most? I get awesome operation lately with madwifi |
| 00:37.31 | spldart | lately = over a year now |
| 00:37.33 | JeffM | if they put a clicky thing on the taskbar for network, it should work |
| 00:37.42 | JeffM | and it's not my network |
| 00:37.43 | spldart | heh |
| 00:37.45 | JeffM | I've tried 3 |
| 00:37.49 | JeffM | secure and unsecure |
| 00:37.59 | spldart | Ralink is harder |
| 00:38.11 | spldart | in my case a couple rt61 and one rt2500 |
| 00:38.17 | spldart | 61's do ok |
| 00:42.18 | JeffM | curses std::string.find_first_of! |
| 00:43.15 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r17728 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/plugin_utils/ (plugin_utils.cpp plugin_utils.h): add utility to find the first instance of a substring in a string |
| 00:44.42 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r17729 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/plugin_utils/ (plugin_utils.cpp plugin_utils.h): use an optional offset for find_first_substr so we don't have to copy strings all the time |
| 00:53.18 | JeffM | cool, trunk is busted on ldap ;) |
| 00:54.27 | spldart | o_O not so kew |
| 00:54.46 | JeffM | bound to happen |
| 00:54.51 | JeffM | doubt it has a valid build sysem |
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| 00:57.38 | Gabe_G23 | win 6 |
| 00:57.42 | Gabe_G23 | Oop |
| 00:57.45 | Gabe_G23 | s* |
| 00:59.24 | Thumper_ | JeffM: no it wasn't found. I just don't like uninitialized pointers on the stack :) - if we dereference it I'd rather it blows up right away instead of pointing somewhere random |
| 01:01.52 | JeffM | k |
| 01:06.37 | Happy_Alice | hi good devs that u are all !! |
| 01:07.32 | Happy_Alice | i have a question: in which file should i modify in order to add a command (/translate for instance) ?? |
| 01:10.47 | Happy_Alice | is it servercommandkey.cxx? |
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| 01:26.42 | Happy_Alice | should i modify servercommandkey.cxx in order to implement my translator (/translate ....) ? |
| 01:26.54 | Happy_Alice | is it the correct way? |
| 01:27.54 | a_meteorite | there is no correct way, only a preferred way :) |
| 01:28.04 | Happy_Alice | ahhh :-= |
| 01:28.20 | Happy_Alice | which is the preferred one, Meteorite? |
| 01:29.02 | a_meteorite | I am not a bzflag dev, but I know a bit about bz's code, although my coding philosophies differ greatly. My opinion carries little weight. |
| 01:29.40 | Happy_Alice | well...at least i would have an answer :-( |
| 01:29.54 | Happy_Alice | so, what is ur opinion? |
| 01:30.27 | a_meteorite | I think you want commands.cxx |
| 01:30.47 | a_meteorite | make your main translation code into a class or something in it's own file |
| 01:31.07 | a_meteorite | access your class/functions through commands.cxx |
| 01:31.33 | a_meteorite | in fact, as far as I can see, there is no ServerCommandKey.* ... |
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| 01:32.38 | Happy_Alice | are u sure there is no serverCommandkey.cxx ? |
| 01:32.47 | Lukstr | what is it's path? |
| 01:32.55 | Lukstr | are you working in trunk, to begin with? |
| 01:32.56 | Happy_Alice | because, tis file is just opened in my desktop, lol |
| 01:32.58 | a_meteorite | oh, in src/bzflag |
| 01:33.09 | a_meteorite | you're not implementing the translation in the server? |
| 01:33.12 | Happy_Alice | trunk version, yes |
| 01:33.26 | Happy_Alice | in src/bzflzg |
| 01:33.45 | Happy_Alice | i guess it is not related to the server? |
| 01:34.00 | a_meteorite | right |
| 01:34.13 | Happy_Alice | maybe, i am wrong? |
| 01:34.23 | Lukstr | src/bzfs is the server |
| 01:34.25 | a_meteorite | I guess it depends on your philosophy :) |
| 01:34.57 | Happy_Alice | i am starting with the client first...just to prove myself it is ok..... |
| 01:35.15 | Happy_Alice | then, i will consider what people say |
| 01:35.47 | a_meteorite | I would take a look at CommandsImplementation.cxx |
| 01:36.00 | a_meteorite | I do not have much experience with client modding though, so take my word with a grain of salt |
| 01:36.00 | Happy_Alice | ok.... |
| 01:36.09 | a_meteorite | I'm mostly a server guy |
| 01:36.25 | Happy_Alice | many thx, Server guy ! |
| 01:36.39 | a_meteorite | sure |
| 01:37.12 | BulletCatcher | The /localset command looks like a good model for a client-only implementation. |
| 01:38.12 | Happy_Alice | so, it is in CommandsImplementation.cxx, as Meteorite said |
| 01:38.20 | BulletCatcher | yes |
| 01:38.35 | a_meteorite | I am right for once, I impress myself |
| 01:38.45 | Happy_Alice | i am impress too :-D |
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| 02:36.49 | JeffM | blast007: this was the HTML I was using to test the various HTTP methods in the new plugin, http://pastebin.bzflag.bz/m7fa98eb0 |
| 02:36.58 | JeffM | Get worked, POST worked, but PUT came in as a get |
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| 03:10.29 | brlcad | crossed the border and taco'd the bell |
| 03:10.46 | brlcad | to taco or not to taco, that was the question |
| 03:11.06 | JeffM | you have my condolences |
| 03:11.22 | JeffM | second worst food in the US |
| 03:12.36 | brlcad | a man, a plan, a taco, o'catan al panama |
| 03:12.47 | brlcad | likes tagos |
| 03:16.00 | JeffM | feeds and ponders how to parse headers and cookies |
| 03:17.39 | Lukstr | since when is PUT a valid form submission method? |
| 03:20.29 | Lukstr | I thought they changed that |
| 03:25.04 | Lukstr | besides, if you want to use put then you do |
| 03:25.41 | Lukstr | <form action="http://blah/MYNEWFILEADDEDWITHPUT" method=PUT> |
| 03:26.12 | Lukstr | put's meant for creating new files, most browsers don't have that functionality and just send it in get I think |
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| 03:56.51 | _Lukstr | thanks, internet |
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| 04:20.53 | JeffM | Lukstr: it's in the spec |
| 04:21.35 | JeffM | HEAD, GET, POST, PUT, TRACE, DELETE, and CONNECT are the methods |
| 04:21.44 | Lukstr | are you using a browser? |
| 04:22.09 | JeffM | well I can't get the browser to do a put, that's the problem |
| 04:22.15 | Lukstr | because they won't |
| 04:22.17 | JeffM | put comes out as a get and dosn't have the data for the file |
| 04:22.22 | Lukstr | try a post |
| 04:22.29 | JeffM | then what is put used for? |
| 04:22.33 | Lukstr | it's not |
| 04:22.40 | JeffM | then why is it in the spec? |
| 04:22.48 | Lukstr | because the spec is outdated |
| 04:22.56 | JeffM | what was it used for? |
| 04:23.21 | Lukstr | you used to use PUT to send a new URI to the action's URI |
| 04:23.33 | Lukstr | or create a URI there, or whatever |
| 04:24.07 | JeffM | ok, lets say I want to do that :) |
| 04:24.12 | Lukstr | hah |
| 04:24.17 | Lukstr | well you have to find a browser that can do that |
| 04:24.23 | Lukstr | and I don't know of one |
| 04:25.01 | JeffM | well I "think" I'm supporting it properly |
| 04:25.07 | JeffM | it looks to be done just like a post |
| 04:25.28 | JeffM | except the data is just a blob in the body with out names and stuff |
| 04:25.57 | JeffM | I got all the other methods other then DELETE and CONNECT |
| 04:26.10 | JeffM | and they return a proper 503 |
| 04:26.13 | Lukstr | From my understanding of it PUT was meant for actually *making* a URI by the server, so the server would say "Okay, let me just put that there for you" |
| 04:26.22 | Lukstr | instead of, for example, putting a file there VIA ftp |
| 04:26.29 | misanthrope | do current httpd even still support PUT? |
| 04:26.42 | Lukstr | I honestly doubt it |
| 04:26.48 | JeffM | Lukstr: yeah that's what I want, to upload say a map |
| 04:26.55 | JeffM | tho I guess we can do it with post |
| 04:26.56 | Lukstr | but a map isn't a URI |
| 04:26.58 | Lukstr | :S |
| 04:27.02 | JeffM | true |
| 04:27.05 | JeffM | tho it could be |
| 04:27.08 | Lukstr | hah |
| 04:27.14 | Lukstr | that's a whole new kettle of fish |
| 04:27.46 | JeffM | techincaly I allow all sorts of wacky abbuses of the URI |
| 04:27.51 | JeffM | just like modern webservers |
| 04:28.02 | misanthrope | post would be safer than put and get |
| 04:28.06 | JeffM | post I got |
| 04:28.10 | JeffM | that was easy |
| 04:28.36 | JeffM | now I just need to trim my cookies |
| 04:29.32 | JeffM | then sessions shold work and all will be well :) |
| 04:30.11 | Lukstr | is this for a remote management plugin? |
| 04:30.29 | Lukstr | and magical http server all-in-one? :P |
| 04:31.21 | JeffM | this is the rewrite of the HTTP support for bzflag |
| 04:31.35 | Lukstr | ah |
| 04:31.36 | JeffM | the old code only supported get, and a broken version of post |
| 04:31.44 | JeffM | the new one supports all the methods |
| 04:31.52 | JeffM | and sessions and stuff |
| 04:31.57 | JeffM | and isn't lame |
| 04:34.09 | misanthrope | what does the client use HTTP support for at this point? obviously downloading textures and maps i would assume. what else? server list? |
| 04:34.23 | JeffM | curl |
| 04:34.31 | JeffM | motd, |
| 04:34.33 | JeffM | list server |
| 04:34.35 | JeffM | maps |
| 04:34.44 | JeffM | textures |
| 04:34.47 | JeffM | and I think that's it |
| 04:34.56 | JeffM | 3.0 will use it to download updates |
| 04:35.03 | Lukstr | awesome |
| 04:35.09 | JeffM | blast007: the image submiter needs to filter out wacky characters like "ö" |
| 04:52.35 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r17730 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/plugin_utils/ (plugin_utils.cpp plugin_utils.h): functions to trim whitespace off of strings |
| 04:53.00 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r17731 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/HTTPServer/HTTPServer.cpp: working session states |
| 04:58.52 | JeffM | there that should make it a lot more usefull :) |
| 04:59.13 | JeffM | now to just figure out why linux can't load a plugin while it's loading a plugin |
| 05:03.32 | JeffM | brlcad: you arround? |
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| 05:10.12 | Lukstr | Should I be leaving the current ObstacleMgr be, or not? |
| 05:10.47 | JeffM | for now yeah, just get your world read in |
| 05:10.48 | JeffM | then you can worry about making it collide |
| 05:10.48 | JeffM | pick one part, get that working, then add more funnctionality later |
| 05:10.58 | JeffM | if all you do this summer is get us a parser that works everywhere, great |
| 05:11.27 | Lukstr | it's difficult to find the line to "cut" so to speak in current code |
| 05:11.39 | JeffM | pick a task, not code |
| 05:11.47 | JeffM | your first task shoudl be reading in worlds |
| 05:11.53 | JeffM | take the code that just lets you do that one task |
| 05:11.56 | JeffM | then write them |
| 05:12.03 | Lukstr | I'm focusing on that |
| 05:12.05 | Lukstr | currently |
| 05:12.15 | JeffM | then obstacle manager has nothing to do with reading ;) |
| 05:12.45 | Lukstr | indeed |
| 05:12.59 | Lukstr | that's what I thought but I asked anyways |
| 05:15.47 | Lukstr | does the man 5 bzw page have all the current features? |
| 05:20.59 | JeffM | dunno |
| 05:21.05 | Lukstr | heh |
| 05:21.10 | JeffM | I've always tried to keep the wiki up to date |
| 05:21.23 | Lukstr | a good call |
| 05:21.26 | Lukstr | forgot I had that tab open |
| 05:38.30 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r17732 10/trunk/bzflag/ (include/bzfsAPI.h src/bzfs/bzfsAPI.cxx): add API function to get the app version |
| 05:50.09 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r17733 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/HTTPServer/HTTPServer.cpp: send out the bzflag server version as the HTTP server version |
| 05:50.20 | JeffM | tomorow I get to figure out how to comptue the day of the week from the date :) |
| 05:52.25 | a_meteorite | the fun part is the fact that it changes every year PLUS leap years |
| 05:53.06 | JeffM | that would be part of the math yes |
| 05:53.19 | JeffM | year%4==0 |
| 05:54.11 | a_meteorite | meh, I don't know the calendar system by heart :) |
| 05:54.34 | JeffM | you don't know how to read a calender? |
| 05:55.04 | a_meteorite | no, I just don't know it by heart |
| 05:55.14 | JeffM | like what part? |
| 05:55.21 | JeffM | do you know the order of the months? |
| 05:55.33 | a_meteorite | no, as in how many days per month. |
| 05:55.40 | a_meteorite | I know leap years are every 4 years. |
| 05:55.49 | a_meteorite | but I don't remember if the day of the week shifts -1 or +1 every year |
| 05:56.26 | JeffM | there is math to do it, I just have to code it up |
| 05:56.32 | AAA_awright | ~365%7 |
| 05:56.32 | ibot | 6.205 |
| 05:56.39 | AAA_awright | So |
| 05:56.41 | AAA_awright | +1 |
| 05:56.55 | JeffM | -1 |
| 05:56.59 | AAA_awright | er |
| 05:57.03 | JeffM | cus we remove the .2.5 |
| 05:59.09 | AAA_awright | ~4%3 |
| 05:59.09 | ibot | 0.052 |
| 05:59.27 | AAA_awright | What is the % operator for ibot then? |
| 05:59.38 | JeffM | may not have one |
| 06:01.01 | Lukstr | ~4mod3 |
| 06:01.03 | Lukstr | :( |
| 06:01.15 | Lukstr | ~4 mod 3 |
| 06:03.15 | Lukstr | JeffM: you can't use standard time libraries? |
| 06:03.34 | JeffM | in a plugin, probably not |
| 06:04.32 | JeffM | what is your definition of "standard"? |
| 06:04.36 | Lukstr | ctime |
| 06:05.02 | Lukstr | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time.h |
| 06:05.29 | JeffM | how does it format it? |
| 06:05.37 | Lukstr | any way you want |
| 06:06.07 | JeffM | I need it the way the Date: header works in HTTP responces |
| 06:06.12 | Lukstr | I think it converts long ints to a calendar time |
| 06:06.24 | Lukstr | okay, strftime |
| 06:06.28 | Lukstr | format a time into a string |
| 06:06.30 | Lukstr | like printf |
| 06:06.32 | JeffM | I'll have to look at that |
| 06:06.35 | JeffM | that may do it |
| 06:06.45 | Lukstr | I hope it does, writing those things is a pain |
| 06:06.57 | JeffM | thanks |
| 06:10.03 | Lukstr | I have a program that calculates the frequency of the "13th" of any given month landing on each day of the week for N years :P |
| 06:10.55 | a_meteorite | heh |
| 06:11.11 | Lukstr | I have no idea why I have it, but I do |
| 06:21.02 | blast007 | \\\ |
| 06:21.03 | blast007 | \ |
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| 06:30.07 | blast007 | er, whoops |
| 06:31.21 | blast007 | hi KingofCamelot |
| 06:38.19 | KingofCamelot | Hey |
| 06:38.25 | KingofCamelot | How's it going blast? |
| 06:38.33 | blast007 | going good |
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| 06:41.56 | blast007 | KingofCamelot: how about you? |
| 06:46.22 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03blast007 * r17734 10/trunk/bzwgen/inc/graph/forward.h: Newline at end of file. |
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| 07:42.27 | KingofCamelot | Anyone around? |
| 07:44.40 | DTRemenak | whatcha need? |
| 07:46.27 | DTRemenak | speak now or forever hold your peace, KingofCamelot (or at least for the night) :P |
| 07:46.32 | KingofCamelot | Trying to get debug working properly with MSVC 8. |
| 07:46.37 | KingofCamelot | hehe, speaking :P |
| 07:46.50 | DTRemenak | k. having some problem? |
| 07:47.22 | KingofCamelot | Problem is it's running it from the folder \MSVC\VC8\bzflag_debug |
| 07:47.30 | KingofCamelot | And it's complaining that it can't find fonts, etc |
| 07:47.53 | KingofCamelot | So I tried using the -directory command line option, using .../.../.../, but that didn't seem to work |
| 07:48.28 | DTRemenak | set the debug path to<checkout dir>\bzflag.exe, it's automatically copied there after build |
| 07:48.55 | DTRemenak | bzflag project properties->Debugging->Command |
| 07:49.21 | DTRemenak | and make sure you clear the -directory option out of your config file |
| 07:49.35 | DTRemenak | since it remembers it if you run it with that |
| 07:50.18 | KingofCamelot | Wohoo. Thanks. :) Can't load some textures, but it's actually working now |
| 07:52.07 | KingofCamelot | So...one more thing if you don't mind? |
| 07:52.12 | DTRemenak | sure |
| 07:52.42 | KingofCamelot | Was hoping this would point me towards the cause of a crash, but it still crashes, and nothing shows up in the debugger. |
| 07:53.02 | DTRemenak | what do you mean by "nothing shows up? |
| 07:53.21 | KingofCamelot | No error message, the debugger doesn't do a stack dump or anything |
| 07:53.33 | DTRemenak | what do the last few lines of the output window say? |
| 07:53.56 | KingofCamelot | Let me clear it and run it again to ensure I get the right lines |
| 07:54.56 | KingofCamelot | http://pastebin.bzflag.bz/d76fb515a |
| 07:55.23 | DTRemenak | Debug->Exceptions, Win32 Exceptions, check the box next to "c0000005 Access violation" |
| 07:55.30 | DTRemenak | then the debugger will trip next time it does that |
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| 07:56.17 | DTRemenak | the debugger's default exception handling is not exactly sane in all cases |
| 07:56.56 | KingofCamelot | Ah, thanks. Now the debugger has tripped. As you might have noticed, I'm not the most experienced with MSVC, especially the debugging options, heh. |
| 07:57.13 | DTRemenak | yeah, we all start somewhere :) it's a nice debugger, but a bit quirky |
| 07:57.39 | KingofCamelot | Heh...still can't quite figure out this bug. |
| 07:57.51 | DTRemenak | you're reading a null pointer somewhere |
| 07:58.21 | DTRemenak | if you hover your cursor over your variables you may be able to tell which one is null |
| 07:58.29 | KingofCamelot | Well, since you worked on some of my code, maybe you'll be able to see something here I'm missing. |
| 07:58.45 | KingofCamelot | The code you modified, the code to trim the label to fit the size of the scroll list |
| 07:59.45 | DTRemenak | ehh...did I break your code? ooopsie |
| 07:59.48 | KingofCamelot | I created a new class for scroll list items, so instead of just holding a list of strings and labels, I hold a list of the new class, which in turn has the string and label for that item. I also moved the trim code into a function for the new item class. It gets sent the width and then trims accordingly. |
| 07:59.51 | KingofCamelot | No, you didn't. :) |
| 08:00.18 | KingofCamelot | The trim code breaks though when it's in the new item class, when it calls getFontFace()->getFMFace();. Not quite sure why. |
| 08:00.38 | DTRemenak | hm, that's a weird place to break |
| 08:00.48 | DTRemenak | I did init the face in the c'tor, right? |
| 08:01.12 | DTRemenak | is still checking out the appropriate branch |
| 08:01.28 | KingofCamelot | c'tor? |
| 08:01.35 | DTRemenak | constructor. long word :) |
| 08:01.56 | DTRemenak | or is it relying on the face being set by the base HUDuiElement? |
| 08:03.11 | KingofCamelot | The way I have it set up is the constructor sets the face using getFontFace(), so it relies on the base HUDuiElement. However, I set the face after creating the object, and before calling the trim method. |
| 08:03.31 | DTRemenak | k, that sounds ok |
| 08:04.38 | DTRemenak | I'm assuming the code in svn is not current? |
| 08:04.40 | KingofCamelot | Actually...that setFontFace line somehow got removed...I'm going to kick myself in the ass if that's it, lol |
| 08:04.46 | DTRemenak | heh :) |
| 08:05.21 | KingofCamelot | firmly plants his foot up his own ass |
| 08:05.54 | DTRemenak | that's ok, it's just one more mistake you'll remember not to make next time ;) |
| 08:06.00 | KingofCamelot | Hehe, indeed |
| 08:06.23 | KingofCamelot | Is there a default font face I could use in the class constructor incase it accidentally doesn't get set before calling the object? |
| 08:06.47 | DTRemenak | no, nothing else does. labels, for instance, will crash on render() if it doesn't get set |
| 08:07.04 | DTRemenak | if we want to do that we should have the HUDuiElement c'tor do it |
| 08:07.18 | KingofCamelot | Ok, rgr. I'll be sure never to forget that again. :P |
| 08:07.34 | DTRemenak | which may not be a bad idea, actually. just not sure what a good default would be. |
| 08:08.05 | KingofCamelot | Maybe just something that would let the coder know he forgot to set the font, instead of crashing? |
| 08:08.18 | DTRemenak | the crash pretty much lets him know he forgot ;) |
| 08:08.31 | KingofCamelot | True...unless he doesn't realize...like me :P |
| 08:08.37 | DTRemenak | bet you'll recognize it next time though ;) |
| 08:08.40 | KingofCamelot | ;) |
| 08:08.53 | KingofCamelot | Indeed |
| 08:09.09 | KingofCamelot | Anyways, thanks for all your help. :) Sorry if I kept you up. |
| 08:09.10 | DTRemenak | btw, if I may recommend a small visual studio plugin - http://code.google.com/p/extabsettings/ :) |
| 08:09.58 | KingofCamelot | Ohhh...nice. :) Ya...I think I got my indents screwed up, heh. |
| 08:10.04 | DTRemenak | currently your visual studio settings are causing your code to fly off the right side of my screen. that'll help keep it in order without breaking your settings for other projects. you'll need to re-indent your existing code. |
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| 08:10.45 | DTRemenak | alternatively, you may set it manually if you don't work on anything with more...conventional...indentation |
| 08:10.53 | KingofCamelot | Well you're just full of helpful tips tonight. :) |
| 08:11.11 | DTRemenak | I tend to work on multiple projects, so exTabSettings is my solution for making sure I don't screw up bzflag :) |
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| 08:11.45 | DTRemenak | actually I wrote it to make sure Jeff didn't screw up bzflag, but that's just a detail... :) |
| 08:11.52 | KingofCamelot | Smart...I noticed you made the plugin. Nicely done. |
| 08:11.53 | KingofCamelot | Haha |
| 08:14.41 | KingofCamelot | BTW, I like to use Notepad++ for a lot of my code modifications. Would you mind if I looked into using your plugin code as a base for creating a Notepad++ plugin that does the same thing? |
| 08:14.48 | DTRemenak | sure, go right ahead |
| 08:15.45 | KingofCamelot | Awesome...due credit given of course. :) However, that will be for another time. Back to BZFlag for me, now that I got that bug worked out. |
| 08:15.46 | DTRemenak | I assume it has similar properties for spaces-per-indent and spaces-per-tab |
| 08:15.53 | KingofCamelot | Yea |
| 08:16.47 | DTRemenak | the extabsettings code is not actually all that smart, just trivially parses the ex: modeline. the real work was figuring out how to make it document-sensitive in visual studio (so you can have documents from multiple projects with different indentation settings open at the same time) |
| 08:17.40 | DTRemenak | and it's all in c#, so I'm not sure how whether it's usable for notepad++ |
| 08:17.58 | DTRemenak | sticks an "or" in the appropriate place in that sentence |
| 08:18.22 | KingofCamelot | Then it may just save as inspiration, so I don't have to re-invent the wheel. :) |
| 08:19.08 | DTRemenak | that's cool too. there are only a couple of important options, and the ex line has to be in the first few or last few lines in the file. it's not a difficult format to handle. |
| 08:19.22 | DTRemenak | much easier than the emacs block, for instance :) |
| 08:19.32 | KingofCamelot | Heh |
| 08:19.53 | KingofCamelot | I'm actually kinda surprised no one has a plugin that does the same thing for Notepad++. Seems like it would be useful. |
| 08:20.07 | DTRemenak | I was surprised there wasn't one for visual studio |
| 08:20.32 | DTRemenak | I've kinda begun to suspect that truly cross-platform code with non 4/4 indentation is somewhat rare |
| 08:21.21 | Lukstr | hands KingofCamelot a copy of VIM |
| 08:21.30 | DTRemenak | many cross-platform projects seem to stick to "spaces only for indentation" |
| 08:21.49 | DTRemenak | which every editor with fixed-with fonts will display correctly |
| 08:22.04 | KingofCamelot | kindly takes VIM, then puts it in his closet. :P |
| 08:22.09 | Lukstr | :( |
| 08:22.18 | DTRemenak | uses vim when not on windows |
| 08:22.22 | Lukstr | Cream? |
| 08:22.23 | KingofCamelot | No offense, just not a fan. :) |
| 08:22.59 | DTRemenak | it's a nice editor. the thing is, visual studio is much more than an editor, AND happens to be not a half-bad editor, so I generally stick to it when in windows. |
| 08:23.17 | KingofCamelot | @DTRemenak, spaces only for indentation would drive me insane personally...Maybe I'm lazy, but the tab button is just so much easier, heh. |
| 08:23.32 | Lukstr | ctrl+t ftw |
| 08:23.36 | DTRemenak | KingofCamelot: "tabs-as-spaces" is an option in most editors |
| 08:23.46 | KingofCamelot | Ah....good. :D |
| 08:23.57 | DTRemenak | uncheck "expand tabs" in visual studio, for instance |
| 08:24.01 | Lukstr | oh, no one expects you to break your spacebar :P |
| 08:24.01 | DTRemenak | or check |
| 08:24.03 | DTRemenak | one or the other |
| 08:25.15 | DTRemenak | uncheck "insert tabs". "expandtab" is the ex modeline |
| 08:25.29 | KingofCamelot | Gotcha |
| 08:25.34 | DTRemenak | exTabSettings supports that too ;) |
| 08:26.01 | DTRemenak | at least trunk does. don't think I ever released it. |
| 08:26.58 | DTRemenak | I'm sure there's an emacs setting for it to. there's an emacs setting for everything that exists, and some things that don't (or shouldn't). |
| 08:27.55 | KingofCamelot | lol |
| 08:28.20 | DTRemenak | C-x M-c M-butterfly :) |
| 08:28.35 | Lukstr | haha |
| 08:28.40 | Lukstr | nice |
| 08:28.46 | Lukstr | oh, it's monday isn't it |
| 08:28.52 | DTRemenak | it is indeed |
| 08:28.59 | DTRemenak | how have you been coming along? |
| 08:29.32 | Lukstr | I spent all day reading through BZWB's parsing and more of the BZFS world code |
| 08:30.15 | DTRemenak | I assume you've read the bzw(5) manpage too? |
| 08:30.25 | Lukstr | yeah |
| 08:30.30 | DTRemenak | keeps hoping to see a bit more, y'know, code :) |
| 08:30.40 | Lukstr | me too |
| 08:31.04 | DTRemenak | k, just making sure we're on the same page |
| 08:31.06 | Lukstr | The method Jude used in BZWB seems to store the whole file in memory |
| 08:31.18 | DTRemenak | twice, iirc |
| 08:31.24 | Lukstr | seems icky to me |
| 08:31.39 | DTRemenak | it's more stringy than would really be "nice" |
| 08:31.40 | Lukstr | Oh |
| 08:31.50 | Lukstr | I do have a question |
| 08:31.59 | DTRemenak | shoot |
| 08:32.20 | KingofCamelot | BTW, DTRemenak, I apologize for not checking anything in the last few days. Had to go out of town on some family issues. I plan on spending tomorrow (well, today now) putting in a lot of work to catch-up. |
| 08:32.55 | DTRemenak | KingofCamelot: k, that's fine. It's nice to know beforehand (even if it's just popping in and saying "hey I'm gonna be out for the next few days") |
| 08:33.07 | Lukstr | src/bzfs/BZWReader.cxx: line 477 calls WorldFileObject::writeToWorld on a bunch of objects, but I can't find where that function is actually implemented, aside from interface stubs |
| 08:33.43 | KingofCamelot | @DTRemenak, rgr, I'll be sure to pop in and tell someone if anything comes up again. |
| 08:34.20 | DTRemenak | Lukstr: it's up to each object to implement it. most of them don't. |
| 08:34.26 | Lukstr | Oh |
| 08:34.35 | DTRemenak | the exceptions are Link, WarterLevel, and Zone, IIRC |
| 08:34.41 | Lukstr | So if most of them don't, how do any objects get passed to the WorldInfo object? |
| 08:34.42 | DTRemenak | err, WaterLevel |
| 08:35.48 | Lukstr | oh |
| 08:35.55 | Lukstr | the GroupDefinition? |
| 08:37.05 | Lukstr | they're just passed to the OBSTACLEMGR? |
| 08:37.14 | DTRemenak | that sounds about right |
| 08:37.55 | DTRemenak | I'm not sure I would do it that way though |
| 08:37.58 | Lukstr | so the OBSTACLEMGR is some global thing... |
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| 08:38.12 | DTRemenak | I think it would make more sense to build the obstacle manager from the worldinfo, than the other way around. |
| 08:38.24 | Lukstr | Yeah |
| 08:38.48 | DTRemenak | a lot of that will depend on how you handle groups |
| 08:38.54 | Lukstr | So bzfs can only have one world loaded at a time I guess :P |
| 08:39.21 | DTRemenak | I would tend to suggest "as logically and easy-to-understand as possible" even if it doesn't perform particularly well |
| 08:39.42 | DTRemenak | yes |
| 08:39.53 | DTRemenak | each application only loads one world at a time |
| 08:40.19 | Lukstr | So I should probably aim to leave the OBSTACLEMGR alone and have it maintain current functionality |
| 08:40.47 | DTRemenak | that may be relied upon, but I'd rather not. particularly for editors it may be advisable to be able to instatiate multiple worlds (which don't need to be obstacle-ized) |
| 08:41.04 | Lukstr | I was planning on that being possible |
| 08:41.15 | DTRemenak | yes. rewrite as much of obstaclemgr as you need to, but preferably no more :) |
| 08:41.21 | Lukstr | hah |
| 08:41.41 | Lukstr | I guess you could re-write interactions between World and obstaclemgr outside libbzw |
| 08:42.02 | Lukstr | you being me |
| 08:42.03 | Lukstr | :P |
| 08:42.38 | DTRemenak | I would rewrite enough of obstaclemgr to have it iterate the World and build itself from that, and not take anything directly during build. basically have it be a strict client of the World. |
| 08:43.12 | DTRemenak | Jeff would probably prefer having it be a subclass of World, inheriting from it. I'm not sure that's desirable. |
| 08:43.30 | Lukstr | to much inherticance for my liking |
| 08:43.43 | Lukstr | inheritance, rather |
| 08:43.50 | DTRemenak | but he's got more experience than I do, so he's worth listening to even if you decide not to go that way |
| 08:44.10 | Lukstr | Well that also involves rewriting more of obstaclemgr |
| 08:44.31 | DTRemenak | yeah, it gets too deeply involved in the rest of the apps for what I think your project should be doing |
| 08:44.43 | Lukstr | I'll worry about that later |
| 08:45.18 | DTRemenak | so for the time being, I'd suggest considering it as a client of the world. pull enough out of it that you don't need to depend on it, and make it depend on libbzw. |
| 08:45.58 | DTRemenak | that should mean you shouldn't need to worry about the actual obstacles or collision implementation |
| 08:46.20 | Lukstr | mhm |
| 08:46.26 | DTRemenak | which would be a good thing imho, as it gets a *wee* bit complex |
| 08:46.33 | Lukstr | yeaaah sounds good to me |
| 08:48.12 | Lukstr | for debugging, I'm assuming --enable-debug sets some #define? |
| 08:49.33 | DTRemenak | _DEBUG or DEBUG most likely. It's set by the compiler. |
| 08:49.54 | DTRemenak | DEBUG, it looks like |
| 08:50.17 | Lukstr | is it a big deal if I just print things to stdout or stderr? |
| 08:50.58 | DTRemenak | it's generally considered more polite to use logDebugMessage. libbzw can depend on common. |
| 08:51.15 | DTRemenak | actually it will probably have to depend on common, for some other things |
| 08:51.15 | Lukstr | ah alright |
| 08:51.31 | DTRemenak | a lot of our cross-platform-ness is encapsulated in common. |
| 08:51.53 | Lukstr | I'm already counting on that I think |
| 08:51.59 | DTRemenak | k |
| 08:51.59 | Lukstr | or I was at some point if I removed the #includes |
| 08:52.43 | DTRemenak | yeah, I haven't looked. most of your code files are essentially empty, so I haven't reviewed them thoroughly ;) |
| 08:53.01 | Lukstr | indeed |
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| 08:54.11 | Lukstr | I'm used to the old reopening streams trick and just printing stderr :P |
| 08:55.18 | Lukstr | not sure if you can do that in c++ though |
| 08:55.54 | DTRemenak | you can almost always just cout << whatever << endl; |
| 08:56.13 | Lukstr | but change what cout is? |
| 08:56.21 | DTRemenak | yes, you can redirect streams |
| 08:56.27 | Lukstr | tasty |
| 08:56.54 | DTRemenak | you may do so for debugging. please do not do so in production code, it can lead to some *very* strange behavior if you're not expecting it :) |
| 08:57.09 | Lukstr | a lot of the BZFS stuff does :P |
| 08:57.21 | Lukstr | oh, redirect streams? |
| 08:57.24 | DTRemenak | yeah |
| 08:57.32 | Lukstr | I was planning on doing that for my driver framework |
| 08:57.39 | Lukstr | so I can get all the juicy details |
| 08:58.13 | DTRemenak | basically it's just std::cout.rdbuf(mystream.rdbuf()) (or similar for write) |
| 08:58.28 | DTRemenak | it's ok for a testing framework too |
| 08:58.40 | DTRemenak | I have plenty of test code at work that does exactly that |
| 08:58.49 | DTRemenak | sometimes more than once |
| 08:59.01 | Lukstr | should I not print to cout for production code though? |
| 08:59.04 | Lukstr | or wrap that in debugs or something |
| 08:59.07 | DTRemenak | correct, you should not |
| 08:59.11 | Lukstr | alright |
| 09:00.03 | DTRemenak | you may provide another method for doing so (i.e. print to some stream, and let the calling application redirect that stream to cout if they so desire) |
| 09:00.32 | DTRemenak | but usually if people SEE cout << something, they expect it to come out on cout, not somewhere else |
| 09:00.35 | Lukstr | does that polite logging method do that? |
| 09:00.45 | Lukstr | logDebugMessage? |
| 09:01.02 | DTRemenak | logDebugMessage does different things on different platforms |
| 09:01.17 | DTRemenak | in visual studio it dumps to the debug output window, for instance |
| 09:01.35 | DTRemenak | and it has multiple levels that can be toggled by the user |
| 09:01.48 | DTRemenak | that's what our -d[-d[-d[-d]]] flags control |
| 09:02.03 | Lukstr | -d-d-d-d ? |
| 09:02.06 | Lukstr | oh dear |
| 09:02.16 | DTRemenak | bzfs -d will give less output than bzfs -dd or bzfs -d -d |
| 09:02.26 | Lukstr | yeah |
| 09:02.34 | Lukstr | where's logDebugMessage defined? |
| 09:02.36 | DTRemenak | -dddd is pretty verbose |
| 09:02.52 | DTRemenak | bzfio maybe? |
| 09:03.11 | Lukstr | good call |
| 09:03.33 | DTRemenak | on non-windows platforms it most likely writes to cout |
| 09:03.41 | DTRemenak | and might flush, too |
| 09:04.20 | DTRemenak | and I think it has a callback hook, so you can write a database-logging plugin |
| 09:06.33 | DTRemenak | "real" debug messages typically go on channels 3 or 4. errors go to 0 (or cerr directly), severe warnings or information for server ops are on 1, mild warnings and verbose information is on 2. at least that's the general convention. |
| 09:06.56 | DTRemenak | most server ops run at 2 or 3 |
| 09:07.27 | Lukstr | very nice |
| 09:09.21 | DTRemenak | on the client side, 0 is normal operation. 1 and 2 are used for figuring out what went wrong when the client misbehaves, so it's mostly unexpected cases, "this should never happen" and so on. 4 is very verbose (mostly network/font stuff) and tends to slow down the client a lot. |
| 09:09.51 | Lukstr | so the bigger the number the less serious |
| 09:10.04 | DTRemenak | yeah, the bigger the number the more information you have to fight with :) |
| 09:12.04 | Lukstr | Wait, I just confused myself. How come I decided to put all the headers in include/BZW/ ? |
| 09:12.21 | DTRemenak | because their classes are in the BZW namespace |
| 09:12.38 | Lukstr | oh yeah. damn |
| 09:12.43 | DTRemenak | why? |
| 09:13.05 | Lukstr | oh, I was wondering why I didn't just put the important user-end prototypes in libBZW.h and be done with it |
| 09:13.17 | DTRemenak | they'll need most of it anyway |
| 09:13.22 | Lukstr | yeah |
| 09:13.36 | DTRemenak | honestly the vast majority of your classes are ultimately APIs too |
| 09:15.10 | DTRemenak | if you think it's important you can create a "main" header file that includes the other user-visible headers |
| 09:15.34 | Lukstr | doesn't matter, they'll all recursively include anyways |
| 09:15.36 | Lukstr | no biggie |
| 09:17.42 | DTRemenak | goes to bed |
| 09:17.48 | Lukstr | I should too :( |
| 09:17.58 | Lukstr | may as well write the parser first though |
| 09:18.41 | DTRemenak | ok, have fun. if you have more questions Erroneous will be around tomorrow. |
| 09:18.46 | Lukstr | heh |
| 09:18.48 | Lukstr | rgrdgr |
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| 12:05.23 | KTL | i sometimes see a spot on the radar with a line starting from it, as if a continuous laser was fired from there |
| 12:05.23 | KTL | i know saw a bit more |
| 12:05.23 | KTL | i stole a sw while the owner was firing it |
| 12:05.28 | KTL | the result was a bullet that stood still |
| 12:05.28 | KTL | and the bullet was on my radar the start of an infinite line |
| 12:05.28 | KTL | s/know/now/ |
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| 12:54.39 | donny_baker | KTL: that has been around for sometime... im not sure that anyone knows exacly what causes it |
| 12:54.55 | donny_baker | used to happen quite often on lasermania also |
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| 14:19.04 | fuba | are all pillbox servers offline? |
| 14:20.40 | brad | ~bzfquery dub.bzflag.org:5160 |
| 14:20.49 | brad | no? |
| 14:20.54 | brad | I think that's the port anyway |
| 14:21.07 | fuba | it doesn't show up when I hit "find servers" |
| 14:22.17 | brad | I can see it at http://my.bzflag.org/db/?action=LIST so it is on the list. |
| 14:22.48 | brad | Try using the search feature |
| 14:23.04 | brad | hit / then type pillbox |
| 14:29.02 | fuba | nope |
| 14:29.43 | brad | Then I have no idea |
| 14:29.58 | fuba | damn :\ |
| 14:29.59 | brad | There's no-one there anyway so you're not missing out on much |
| 14:30.08 | fuba | I liked the map |
| 14:30.17 | brad | If you want to play later just type the hostname:port in manually |
| 14:30.22 | brad | dub.bzflag.org 5150 |
| 14:30.54 | fuba | I get an error connecting to server |
| 14:31.16 | brad | ~bzfquery dub.bzflag.org:5150 |
| 14:31.23 | fuba | is the map available online somewhere? |
| 14:31.27 | brad | Then something is wrong on your end |
| 14:31.45 | fuba | how come it's reporting 26 players when you just said there's no-one there |
| 14:32.20 | fuba | I can connect to other servers just fine |
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| 14:35.19 | brad | Then we are talking about a different server :P |
| 14:35.26 | brad | ~bzflist |
| 14:36.13 | brad | None of the server have over 20 players so I don't know what you're looking at |
| 14:36.27 | brad | unless one of them had a sudden decrease in players |
| 14:36.41 | fuba | "0026 No Players" <-- that |
| 14:36.48 | brad | oh sorry |
| 14:36.53 | fuba | Oh, 26 is an error code :) |
| 14:36.56 | brad | no |
| 14:36.57 | BulletCatcher | 0026 is the protocol version number for the released version |
| 14:36.59 | brad | the protocol |
| 14:37.08 | fuba | oh, my bad :) |
| 14:37.28 | BulletCatcher | The development version of BZFlag currently has protocol version 0063. |
| 14:40.25 | BulletCatcher | I just successfully connected to dub.bzflag.org:5150. There was no one else there. |
| 14:41.11 | fuba | BulletCatcher: can you /saveworld and put it online somewhere? |
| 14:45.44 | KTL | i want to texture a horizontal face in such a way that it is consistent with all other horizontal faces. So as texture coords i try to put the vertex coordinates |
| 14:46.13 | KTL | but somehow i get of by half the size of a texture, no clue what i am doing wrong |
| 14:48.25 | blast007 | fuba: when I search for "pillbox" in the server list, I get 9 servers |
| 14:49.12 | BulletCatcher | fuba: http://pastebin.bzflag.bz/d1214961 |
| 14:49.29 | blast007 | fuba: what version of the game are you running? |
| 14:49.41 | fuba | 2.0.10 |
| 14:49.44 | fuba | thanks BulletCatcher! |
| 14:50.10 | blast007 | okay, so why can't you seem to find it on the list? |
| 14:50.18 | blast007 | can you even GET a server list in the game? |
| 14:50.37 | fuba | sure, with every other server on it |
| 14:51.11 | blast007 | ? |
| 14:51.20 | blast007 | how many servers does it says it finds? |
| 14:51.27 | fuba | hold on |
| 14:52.07 | fuba | 250 |
| 14:52.19 | blast007 | okay, then you should be seeing pillbox servers on that list |
| 14:52.31 | blast007 | hit the / key, type pillbox, and hit enter |
| 14:52.43 | fuba | did that, no good |
| 14:52.55 | blast007 | you couldn't have done that |
| 14:52.58 | blast007 | I get 9 servers |
| 14:53.26 | fuba | ... |
| 14:53.26 | blast007 | you did that IN the server list screen? |
| 14:53.31 | fuba | yup |
| 14:53.44 | blast007 | eh |
| 14:54.34 | blast007 | well, I'm counting this as user error. It works for me. I show 250 servers on my list, and can see 9 pillbox servers when I search. So you're doing something different. |
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| 14:55.53 | fuba | I tried entering the server and port manually and got an error connecting to server |
| 14:56.01 | fuba | besides, how hard could search be? :P |
| 14:57.03 | BulletCatcher | In my list of 251 servers, dub shows up on page 18 of 26. The "page down" key should take you there. |
| 14:57.17 | catay | and if you try to connect with the ip ? |
| 14:57.31 | KTL | that should work |
| 14:57.34 | catay | 217.20.127.212:5160 |
| 14:57.51 | catay | erm 5150 :p |
| 14:57.52 | fuba | anyway, I'll just start my own server, invite a few friends and have fun, thanks BulletCatcher |
| 14:57.56 | blast007 | fuba: http://static.bzexcess.com/pillbox.png |
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| 14:58.05 | BulletCatcher | np |
| 14:58.09 | blast007 | so I can't imagine you are searching right |
| 14:59.33 | fuba | catay: nope |
| 14:59.46 | fuba | anyways, thanks all |
| 14:59.50 | catay | maybe it's a routing issue |
| 14:59.58 | catay | i once had something similar too |
| 15:00.02 | BulletCatcher | firewall is my guess |
| 15:00.14 | blast007 | sounds like 50% BS to me |
| 15:00.25 | catay | heh, thats also possible |
| 15:00.30 | blast007 | at least the fact that they are gettin 250 servers, but can't find any pillbox servers |
| 15:01.05 | KTL | he should cam it and show the movie :) |
| 15:01.16 | blast007 | ;) |
| 15:01.29 | blast007 | "pics or it didn't happen!!!" |
| 15:06.13 | KTL | well i am making a small python script that converts old style maps to mesh maps, with the texture coordinates right |
| 15:06.48 | KTL | but i'm a bit puzzled with how to scale down the floor :D |
| 15:08.33 | blast007 | why would you want to convert them to mesh maps? |
| 15:08.54 | KTL | because i cant find a way to properly texture a box. |
| 15:09.08 | blast007 | you can texture a regular box object too |
| 15:09.12 | KTL | a normal box can not be textured properly. |
| 15:09.18 | blast007 | why not? |
| 15:09.24 | blast007 | I've done it |
| 15:09.35 | KTL | dont take a cube, take a long box. |
| 15:09.37 | blast007 | meshbox objects usually have the texturing issues |
| 15:10.03 | KTL | it lacks a parameter to give a different amount of texture repetition at the sides |
| 15:10.16 | blast007 | uh, and which one is that? |
| 15:10.16 | KTL | it is something like "repeat texture x times" |
| 15:10.27 | blast007 | it should have the same stuff that meshbox has |
| 15:10.38 | blast007 | and you can do it per side |
| 15:10.40 | KTL | and it will for all sides, so for 1 direction it will be fine, and for the others noway |
| 15:11.03 | blast007 | you can tell it to only do it for a single side |
| 15:11.37 | blast007 | the wiki page on this has a little about it, but it's not complete (it only shows that you can apply a material to individual sides) |
| 15:11.40 | KTL | rgh |
| 15:11.47 | KTL | i was staring blind on texsize probably |
| 15:11.54 | KTL | and now i see x , x-, y , y-, z , and z- |
| 15:12.03 | blast007 | yup |
| 15:12.36 | KTL | and euhm ... |
| 15:12.39 | KTL | next thing |
| 15:12.51 | KTL | will i be able to hide overlapping faces this way |
| 15:13.06 | KTL | by fitting their texture |
| 15:13.53 | KTL | by saying saying that a spot has the same texture pixel on both faces |
| 15:15.04 | blast007 | well, if the boxes overlap at a 90 degree angle, maybe |
| 15:15.17 | blast007 | but if that's the case, you could just make it so it doesn't overlap |
| 15:15.42 | KTL | euh i try to get a convertor for the bunch of old style maps out there |
| 15:16.14 | KTL | so the code has to deal with it without my intervention |
| 15:16.25 | blast007 | still don't get what your "converter" does.. |
| 15:16.40 | KTL | currently it makes meshes out of boxes |
| 15:16.43 | blast007 | even 3.0 servers can run maps from 1.7 |
| 15:16.59 | KTL | if 2 box top surfaces overlap |
| 15:17.06 | KTL | they give a really ugly effect |
| 15:17.14 | KTL | when i try to texture them |
| 15:17.23 | KTL | i want to avoid that |
| 15:17.32 | blast007 | they give an ugly effect even as the old map |
| 15:19.23 | KTL | well, i wanted to fit the textures in such a way that when they are placed above each other that they would be oriented exactly the same way |
| 15:19.39 | KTL | so that even when the graphics card shows a pixel from the other face, it will still be the same pixel |
| 15:19.41 | KTL | and |
| 15:19.46 | KTL | if that trick would not work |
| 15:19.51 | KTL | because it is still a hack |
| 15:20.07 | KTL | i would try to get all the triangles of the same height apart |
| 15:20.38 | KTL | and to resegment that surface, to join them somehow by adding new triangles |
| 15:23.00 | KTL | and still, if i look at it, those x , x-, y , y-, z , and z- properties assign a material, they dont allow me to say how it is repeated right? |
| 15:23.17 | KTL | so the repetition still has to be controlled by texsize |
| 15:24.10 | KTL | but texsize, as i figured out by rigourous testing, is not enough for stretched boxes |
| 15:25.48 | KTL | and to me it explains why people never change the default texture of boxes, because they never succeed in doing it right |
| 15:26.03 | KTL | with as a result that a whole lot of maps look all the same |
| 15:26.35 | blast007 | KTL: http://static.bzexcess.com/boxes01.png :P (of course, those are cubes) |
| 15:27.17 | KTL | i am talking about stretched boxes :D |
| 15:31.25 | KTL | blast007, are you still on the subject ? :D |
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| 16:34.45 | JeffM | wonders how busy brlcad is today |
| 16:35.01 | brlcad | pretty :) |
| 16:35.15 | JeffM | damn |
| 16:35.23 | brlcad | sup? |
| 16:35.32 | JeffM | wonders when DTRemenak will get to work |
| 16:35.42 | JeffM | I need help debugin an issue that dosn't dupe on windows |
| 16:35.47 | JeffM | plugins loading plugins |
| 16:37.40 | JeffM | that and when I tired yesterday the trunk nix build was busted |
| 16:37.47 | JeffM | horked on bzauth |
| 16:38.54 | KTL | updates svntrunk |
| 16:49.25 | KTL | ~pastebin |
| 16:49.26 | ibot | [~pastebin] A "pastebin" is a web-based service where you can paste anything over 3 lines without flooding the channel. Here are links to a few : http://www.pastebin.com , http://pastebin.ca , http://channels.debian.net/paste , http://paste.lisp.org , http://www.rafb.net/paste |
| 16:49.34 | blast007 | ~bzpastebin |
| 16:49.35 | ibot | rumour has it, bzpastebin is http://pastebin.bzflag.bz or a place to put large chunks of text so as not to flood a channel |
| 16:49.51 | JeffM | KTL, issues with LDAP? |
| 16:50.12 | KTL | http://pastebin.bzflag.bz/d3d9c2d <- cronjob.cpp |
| 16:50.22 | KTL | configured with enable-debug |
| 16:50.45 | JeffM | wierd |
| 16:50.52 | KTL | or should i ignore the enable debug and go straight to the errors? |
| 16:51.53 | JeffM | why is cronjob using code from bzflag? |
| 16:52.37 | JeffM | ahh it has it's own copy of them |
| 16:52.45 | JeffM | probalby not the smartest thing, but ok |
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| 17:02.34 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r17736 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/plugin_utils/ (plugin_utils.cpp plugin_utils.h): add no_whitespace to plugin_utils |
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| 17:04.11 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r17737 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/bzfscron/ (7 files): |
| 17:04.11 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: get bzfscron.cpp to not include it's on copy of text utils, cus they don't work so well. |
| 17:04.11 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: upgrade to using the plugin_utils that everyone else does. |
| 17:04.11 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: remove references to code in bzfs that is not exported via the API |
| 17:04.17 | JeffM | KTL, that help? |
| 17:06.25 | KTL | *compiling* |
| 17:06.33 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r17738 10/trunk/bzflag/ (4 files in 3 dirs): include the day off the week for API time requests |
| 17:08.02 | JeffM | does time in this format have a name? Mon, 23 Jun 2008 17:07:29 GMT |
| 17:09.38 | KTL | donf@8NGEL:~$ date --rfc-2822 |
| 17:09.38 | KTL | Mon, 23 Jun 2008 19:11:07 +0200 |
| 17:10.45 | KTL | http://pastebin.bzflag.bz/d417417bd <- more cronjob :( |
| 17:11.02 | KTL | or i had to run autogen? |
| 17:12.23 | JeffM | you probalby have to at least configure again |
| 17:12.32 | JeffM | cus the makes changed. |
| 17:12.35 | KTL | did that, there goes the long autogen |
| 17:13.11 | JeffM | I missed a thing |
| 17:13.12 | JeffM | one sec |
| 17:13.15 | KTL | oef |
| 17:13.43 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r17739 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/bzfscron/Makefile.am: don't build text utils, they are gone. |
| 17:13.46 | JeffM | there |
| 17:14.27 | KTL | http://pastebin.bzflag.bz/d414999c4 |
| 17:16.16 | JeffM | one sec |
| 17:16.21 | JeffM | that part I am changing right now |
| 17:16.42 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r17740 10/trunk/bzflag/ (4 files in 3 dirs): add UTC time methods |
| 17:17.20 | KTL | line 231 expected ; |
| 17:18.06 | JeffM | how's that get there |
| 17:18.08 | JeffM | wiered |
| 17:18.22 | KTL | is there no way to do a partial clean :) |
| 17:18.36 | JeffM | delete the .o files |
| 17:18.59 | JeffM | buy a faster computer |
| 17:19.17 | KTL | it is a dual core |
| 17:19.28 | JeffM | are you building with -j3 then? |
| 17:19.30 | KTL | still that same error |
| 17:19.32 | KTL | j 2 |
| 17:19.36 | JeffM | I haven't commite dyet |
| 17:19.37 | KTL | why j3?? |
| 17:19.46 | JeffM | so that there is always one waiting |
| 17:19.54 | JeffM | one more then your cores |
| 17:20.41 | JeffM | bugQ, please use C and C++ code |
| 17:20.47 | JeffM | or is not valid for || |
| 17:21.04 | bugQ | crap, I thought it compiled. |
| 17:21.48 | JeffM | also putting a ; after an else dosn't work well ;) |
| 17:21.49 | bugQ | ok, will be more careful |
| 17:22.18 | JeffM | thanks |
| 17:22.46 | Erroneous | the or keyword is in the standard, it's just a bad idea |
| 17:22.59 | JeffM | hasn't been implemented in vc8 then |
| 17:23.11 | Erroneous | no, microsoft does not support it |
| 17:23.11 | bugQ | i see. |
| 17:23.24 | JeffM | cus it's a bad idea |
| 17:23.26 | Erroneous | mostly 'cause it's a bad idea |
| 17:23.26 | brlcad | yeah, it probably did compile -- or, and, and a few others iirc .. just shouldn't use |
| 17:23.27 | Erroneous | heh |
| 17:24.09 | Erroneous | and the semicolon after an else is technically valid too. just doesn't make sense, so probably a mistake :) |
| 17:24.19 | Erroneous | turns the else into an empty statement |
| 17:24.39 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r17741 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/ (3 files in 3 dirs): rename bz_local time to bz_Time; |
| 17:25.10 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r17742 10/trunk/bzflag/src/common/TimeKeeper.cxx: fix sill leftover code snippit |
| 17:25.17 | KTL | right |
| 17:25.37 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r17743 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/webadmin/webadmin.cpp: fix minor bugs and warnings. |
| 17:25.53 | JeffM | there we go |
| 17:27.37 | bugQ | thanks |
| 17:27.48 | KTL | i think i saw bzflag being linked |
| 17:28.44 | KTL | http://pastebin.bzflag.bz/de299939 |
| 17:28.54 | KTL | more cron |
| 17:29.40 | KTL | sees bzflag as a hidden cron distribution |
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| 17:30.27 | JeffM | I wonder why cron broke all of suden, it's been there for long while |
| 17:31.07 | JeffM | bahh, cron isn't part of full build :( |
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| 17:31.45 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r17744 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/bzfscron/bzfscron.cpp: rename bz_local time to bz_Time; |
| 17:32.29 | KTL | http://pastebin.bzflag.bz/d6907ce5b |
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| 17:32.50 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r17745 10/trunk/bzflag/MSVC/VC8/fullbuild.sln: add cron as part of full build |
| 17:32.56 | JeffM | wow you got your stuff set supe strict |
| 17:33.00 | JeffM | but hey they are good things to find |
| 17:35.23 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r17746 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/nagware/nagware.cpp: size_t is not an unsigned int on all systems |
| 17:35.29 | JeffM | next |
| 17:35.50 | KTL | lol |
| 17:35.52 | KTL | there ... |
| 17:35.54 | KTL | is no next :D |
| 17:35.57 | JeffM | cool |
| 17:36.04 | JeffM | now I wonder why I can't build |
| 17:36.16 | JeffM | I got ldap issues in bzauth |
| 17:36.35 | bugQ | ah, "or" keyword is the | operator. odd. |
| 17:36.51 | KTL | dont use | :) |
| 17:37.11 | JeffM | bugQ, || |
| 17:37.17 | JeffM | || is logical, | is bitwise |
| 17:37.21 | JeffM | there is a difference |
| 17:37.34 | JeffM | for what you were doing you want the logical || |
| 17:37.57 | bugQ | yes, but g++ translates "or" into "|" |
| 17:38.06 | JeffM | then that may not be the right thing to use |
| 17:38.12 | JeffM | bitwise | is not the same thing |
| 17:38.19 | bugQ | right. |
| 17:39.12 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03chaos-dev * r17747 10/trunk/bzwgen/inc/graph/ (Face.h forward.h): |
| 17:39.13 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: Finally the Face class for the graph. It's currently named the same as the Face |
| 17:39.13 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: class of BZWGen, no problems caused because of the graph namespace however. |
| 17:39.13 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: Maybe however the BZWGen Face should be renamed to avoid confusion. |
| 17:39.31 | bugQ | || short circuits, | doesn't, etc. |
| 17:39.43 | JeffM | huh? |
| 17:39.58 | bugQ | f() || g() won't call g() if f() is true |
| 17:40.07 | JeffM | yes, it does easy out |
| 17:40.57 | Thumper_ | KTL: partical clean - cd in the directory you want to clean and make clean in that should clean everything in the current directory and all subdirs |
| 17:41.02 | Thumper_ | partial* |
| 17:41.03 | brlcad | bugQ: if you want them both to be evaluated, should evaluate both and then compare their results |
| 17:41.08 | KTL | oki |
| 17:41.57 | Thumper_ | JeffM: you mentioned something about determining weekday from a date yesterday (regarding leap years?) |
| 17:42.21 | JeffM | Thumper_, yeah, I got it, we have it in TimeKeeper I just had to expose it |
| 17:42.35 | Thumper_ | not all dates divisible by 4 are leap years - if it ends in 00 it needs to be divisible by 400 too to be a leap year (but I forget where I read that years ago) |
| 17:42.38 | Thumper_ | ok |
| 17:42.45 | JeffM | now I just have to figure out if 0 is Monday or Sunday :) |
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| 17:43.58 | Thumper_ | from which function? |
| 17:44.54 | JeffM | in the Time Struct |
| 17:44.59 | JeffM | it has a day of week |
| 17:45.17 | JeffM | struct tm |
| 17:45.26 | JeffM | tm_wday |
| 17:46.45 | Thumper_ | ok tm_wday |
| 17:46.45 | Thumper_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:47.04 | Thumper_ | so 0 = sunday |
| 17:49.38 | JeffM | sunday sunday sunday! |
| 17:49.39 | JeffM | thanks |
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| 17:49.50 | Thumper_ | wlcm :) |
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| 17:51.39 | JeffM | and I assume 0 is January? |
| 17:52.32 | KTL | remembers what a mess the java way was to deal with time and knows that you can not assume things in that matter :D |
| 17:53.02 | Thumper_ | JeffM: http://linux.die.net/man/3/mktime |
| 17:53.13 | JeffM | thanks |
| 17:59.20 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r17748 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/plugin_utils/ (plugin_utils.cpp plugin_utils.h): functions to print out the time in a web standard format. |
| 17:59.38 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r17749 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/bzfscron/bzfscron.vc8.vcproj: update GUID |
| 18:00.19 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r17750 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/HTTPServer/HTTPServer.cpp: send out proper timestamps and server names with all HTTP responses for spec compliance. |
| 18:02.24 | KTL | http://pastebin.bzflag.bz/d59701aa1 |
| 18:02.34 | Lukstr | morning all |
| 18:09.38 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03chaos-dev * r17751 10/trunk/bzwgen/ (6 files in 2 dirs): ObjectList introduced -- a templated wrapper over std::vector that will be used for the Face, Edge and Node classes to preserve the internal ID's. |
| 18:10.06 | Thumper_ | Lukstr: morning? you're in my TZ man! |
| 18:10.36 | Thumper_ | er I mean Good Morning! ;) |
| 18:10.43 | Lukstr | :D |
| 18:11.08 | Winny | hehe |
| 18:11.16 | Thumper_ | Lukstr: get a UPS yet? :) |
| 18:11.33 | Lukstr | hah! no |
| 18:11.40 | Lukstr | only two power outages so far |
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| 18:23.23 | Lukstr | yay funnel clouds |
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| 19:49.37 | JeffM | hmm, anyone got a web server that does basic auth? |
| 19:55.33 | Thumper_ | JeffM: yup |
| 19:57.01 | JeffM | got a page I can ping to see what the headersa re? |
| 19:57.03 | JeffM | are |
| 19:57.15 | JeffM | don't need to login just see what the responces are |
| 19:57.15 | Thumper_ | sure just a sec |
| 19:58.53 | Wyk3d | "now I wonder why I can't build |
| 19:58.53 | Wyk3d | [20:36] <JeffM> I got ldap issues in bzauth |
| 19:59.07 | Wyk3d | sorry .. bad paste .. what issues ? |
| 19:59.28 | JeffM | Wyk3d, it may not be you |
| 19:59.30 | JeffM | it may be me |
| 19:59.37 | JeffM | I'm trying another buidl now to see what is up |
| 19:59.54 | Wyk3d | VC8 or linux ? |
| 19:59.59 | JeffM | linux |
| 20:01.39 | Wyk3d | can't remember anything I changed that could affect that .. |
| 20:01.40 | JeffM | hmm ok so basic auth sends back a 401, then the browser sends another get with this? Authorization: Basic Ym9iYm9ic29uOnRoZWJvYm8= |
| 20:01.55 | JeffM | Wyk3d, like I said I may have done a badsetup |
| 20:01.59 | JeffM | it's running now |
| 20:02.07 | JeffM | further then it used to, so we'll see |
| 20:02.30 | Thumper_ | trunk or some other branch? |
| 20:02.33 | JeffM | trunk |
| 20:02.37 | Thumper_ | builds trunk |
| 20:02.50 | JeffM | I'm trying to get a build on nix to work on that load1plugin problem |
| 20:03.00 | JeffM | just linux keeps fighting me |
| 20:03.28 | Thumper_ | watches JeffM smack Linux around a bit and starts selling tickets to the fight... |
| 20:03.47 | Wyk3d | btw, you'll be linking to a separate ldap install, not compiling the "windows port" that is currently in trunk right ? |
| 20:03.47 | JeffM | it's going ok on my laptop now, as long as I plug it into the network |
| 20:04.02 | JeffM | Wyk3d, all I did was type "make" :) |
| 20:04.28 | JeffM | but I was in bzflag, not bzauth so I was suprised to see ldap errors |
| 20:04.39 | JeffM | I got a clean tree and am trying again |
| 20:05.04 | Thumper_ | builds with ./autogen.sh && ./configure --enable-profiling && make regularly |
| 20:05.09 | Thumper_ | I haven't had a clean tree is ages |
| 20:05.12 | Thumper_ | s/is/in/ |
| 20:05.43 | Thumper_ | plugin_utils.cpp fails - shadows |
| 20:05.44 | Thumper_ | fixes |
| 20:06.00 | JeffM | where? |
| 20:06.20 | Thumper_ | plugin_utils.cpp:53: error: declaration of âtimezoneâ shadows a global declaration |
| 20:07.26 | JeffM | hmm did not know that |
| 20:07.29 | JeffM | good to remember |
| 20:08.05 | Thumper_ | build finished |
| 20:08.05 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03bthansen * r17752 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/plugin_utils/plugin_utils.cpp: Fix shadows |
| 20:08.30 | JeffM | thanks |
| 20:09.46 | JeffM | now I wonder how you get the username and password out of "Authorization: Basic Ym9iYm9ic29uOnRoZWJvYm8= |
| 20:09.46 | JeffM | " |
| 20:10.01 | temp_work | every fourth letter |
| 20:10.12 | JeffM | seriously? |
| 20:10.16 | temp_work | lol |
| 20:10.16 | Thumper_ | heh |
| 20:10.25 | JeffM | I'd not put it past them :) |
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| 20:20.58 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r17753 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 20:20.58 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: support HTTP authentication |
| 20:20.58 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: define DO_BASIC_AUTH as true in httpTest.cpp to test. |
| 20:25.39 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r17754 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/httpTest/httpTest.cpp: log out the auth info if it is enabled. |
| 20:26.31 | JeffM | hmm looks like the laptop built |
| 20:26.38 | JeffM | must have goten a bad tree or something |
| 20:27.31 | JeffM | now time to to configure debug :) |
| 20:29.49 | JeffM | do proxies actualy respect cache controll these days? |
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| 20:34.34 | Winny | thinks brlcad knocked over the listserver again |
| 20:35.08 | Thumper_ | Winny: your players should have the address memorized by now |
| 20:35.21 | Winny | hehe |
| 20:38.04 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r17755 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/ (HTTPServer/HTTPServer.cpp plugin_utils/plugin_HTTPVDIR.h): allow option to write out headers to force non-cacheable pages. |
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| 20:39.54 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r17756 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/HTTPServer/HTTPServer.cpp: support MD5 on content. |
| 20:41.59 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r17757 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/fastmap/fastmap.cpp: compute an MD5 on the map and send it out with the HTTP request so they can use HEAD To see if the map is changed. |
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| 20:54.44 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r17758 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/HTTPServer/HTTPServer.cpp: WWW-Authenticate is required on a 401, so fill in data that is missing with some best guess defaults (basic auth on the host's realm) |
| 20:58.09 | JeffM | I think that prety much covers the guts of HTTP, now to just get gdb to install |
| 20:58.58 | Lukstr | sudo apt-get install gdb? |
| 20:59.32 | JeffM | synaptic was doing that |
| 20:59.35 | JeffM | poorly |
| 21:00.10 | Lukstr | I don't even know if I have that installed |
| 21:00.18 | Lukstr | I only do the apt- stuff |
| 21:00.31 | JeffM | I'd prefer to have kdbg |
| 21:03.07 | JeffM | gotta love the fact that this laptop won't actualy RESTART or shutdown when running linux |
| 21:03.11 | JeffM | only "suspend" |
| 21:03.31 | Lukstr | something's probably disabled |
| 21:03.45 | Lukstr | look into acpi configuration |
| 21:03.49 | JeffM | how can you disable SHUTDOWN |
| 21:03.57 | Lukstr | :/ |
| 21:04.07 | Lukstr | `sudo shutdown -P now` works for me |
| 21:04.21 | Thumper_ | JeffM: shutdown from the button? or shutdown from # shutdown -h now ? |
| 21:04.21 | JeffM | I have a mouse for a reason ;) |
| 21:04.34 | JeffM | Thumper_, from the various buttons in various WMs |
| 21:05.03 | Thumper_ | it's probably a permission issue - the user you are doesn't have perms to shut down the system or something stupid :) |
| 21:05.14 | JeffM | wonderfull |
| 21:05.42 | JeffM | then maybe it should stop telling me I need to restart cus it installed updated |
| 21:05.44 | Thumper_ | in an xterm 'su <enter root password' then 'shutdown -h now' |
| 21:05.56 | Thumper_ | or -r instead of -h for reboot |
| 21:06.12 | Lukstr | halt doesn't neccessarily power off though |
| 21:06.16 | Lukstr | -P will almost guarantee that |
| 21:06.24 | Thumper_ | true - that depends on acpi support normally |
| 21:06.56 | Thumper_ | JeffM: just pull the battery :) |
| 21:07.00 | JeffM | I did |
| 21:07.10 | Thumper_ | or press and hold that power button for 4 seconds |
| 21:07.57 | JeffM | and did anyone ever think to try and keep a consitent paradigm for opening folders, double click to open in the file browser, but single click in an open dialog.... |
| 21:08.18 | Thumper_ | consistency? what's that? |
| 21:08.20 | donny_baker | JeffM: that is still the issue in linux.. they have a GUI, but you still need to live in the command line some |
| 21:08.30 | Thumper_ | we're flexible - we can do it anyway we want |
| 21:09.13 | Thumper_ | I still run cygwin on windows just to get the commandline ... since I can get stuff done faster in that than with some limited GUI |
| 21:09.16 | Thumper_ | is anti-gui |
| 21:09.17 | Lukstr | open source in one line: "I'm taking my ball and going home" |
| 21:09.30 | Lukstr | hands Thumper fluxbox |
| 21:09.39 | JBdiGriz | JeffM: Look for one of the systems managers. I've seen a couple that allow restart and shutdown, but you need to escalate privilege. |
| 21:09.39 | Thumper_ | already using it thanks |
| 21:09.47 | Thumper_ | but live in an xterm and Emacs |
| 21:10.00 | Lukstr | xterm and vi -g for me! |
| 21:10.03 | Thumper_ | beats on the sides of his xterm window running irssi |
| 21:10.11 | JBdiGriz | JeffM: If you want consistency, get a mac. :D |
| 21:10.13 | Lukstr | leaves the building for a while |
| 21:12.27 | JeffM | JBdiGriz, I'll settle for mostly consitent at a cheaper price on windows ;) |
| 21:15.00 | JeffM | Thumper_, I only see it steping into the load1plugin twice, as it should |
| 21:15.17 | JeffM | the path is wrong for the plugin on the second run but that is ok |
| 21:15.17 | Thumper_ | strange... |
| 21:16.11 | Thumper_ | I'll try it again later |
| 21:16.21 | Thumper_ | maybe my build is hosed somehow |
| 21:18.42 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r17759 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfsPlugins.cxx: try the working dir when loading a plugin if all else fails. |
| 21:22.28 | Thumper_ | JeffM: and you're running it from the build dir with src/bzfs/bzfs -loadplugin plugins/fastmap/.libs/fastmap.so ? |
| 21:25.00 | JeffM | I had copied the plugins to ther oot |
| 21:25.02 | JeffM | root |
| 21:25.31 | JeffM | I know what you just typed won't load HTTPServer.s |
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| 21:26.08 | JeffM | that dosn't seg for me |
| 21:26.22 | JeffM | dosn't host, but also dosn't crash |
| 21:26.24 | Thumper_ | ok thx - i'll beat on it |
| 21:27.27 | JeffM | where do you have HTTPServer.so? |
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| 21:27.53 | Thumper_ | it seems to work (not crash) with them at the root |
| 21:28.09 | Thumper_ | I didn't have it anywhere (it's in plugins/HTTPServer/.libs/HTTPServer.so |
| 21:28.38 | Thumper_ | $ src/bzfs/bzfs -loadplugin plugins/fastmap/.libs/fastmap.so |
| 21:28.43 | Thumper_ | from the root that segfaults for me |
| 21:28.46 | JeffM | yeah it needs to bef ound |
| 21:28.52 | Thumper_ | HTTPServer is not available |
| 21:28.54 | JeffM | that dosn't seg for me |
| 21:28.56 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r17760 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfsPlugins.cxx: don't need to search ./ specificly. the default global dir should do now that it has a / |
| 21:29.07 | JeffM | it just runs with no fastmap |
| 21:29.51 | Thumper_ | heh |
| 21:30.09 | Thumper_ | $ src/bzfs/bzfs -dddd -loadplugin plugins/fastmap/.libs/fastmap.so | head -20 |
| 21:30.09 | Thumper_ | Fastmap plugin loaded |
| 21:30.12 | Thumper_ | repeats |
| 21:30.19 | JeffM | you have issues |
| 21:30.24 | JeffM | I don't get that |
| 21:30.26 | Thumper_ | 19367 lines of output |
| 21:30.29 | Thumper_ | blowing my stack |
| 21:30.56 | JeffM | I get Plugin:HTTPServer not found, then a single fastmap loaded |
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| 21:31.21 | JeffM | you 64 bit or 32? |
| 21:31.22 | Thumper_ | something is screwy |
| 21:31.23 | Thumper_ | 32 |
| 21:31.27 | JeffM | me too |
| 21:31.47 | Thumper_ | bzflag builds is 3.5 minutes :) |
| 21:32.17 | Thumper_ | but I don't get why this goes kablewy if the plugin .so file isn't there |
| 21:32.22 | Thumper_ | and why yours is different |
| 21:33.33 | Thumper_ | if I have a local HTTPServer.so in the current dir when I start src/bzfs/bzfs it acts sanely (but doesn't find the HTTPServer file when I specify a different path to fastmap) |
| 21:33.40 | Thumper_ | Plugin:HTTPServer not found, error HTTPServer.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 21:33.43 | Thumper_ | Plugin:plugins/fastmap/.libs/fastmap.so loaded |
| 21:33.46 | Thumper_ | defining world |
| 21:33.48 | Thumper_ | building random map |
| 21:33.53 | JeffM | yeah that's what I get with your command line |
| 21:34.23 | JeffM | I'm working on making it so that it can find the HTTPServer.so if it's in the same place as the other plugins |
| 21:34.46 | JeffM | I do think at the end of make we should copy all the .so files to ./plugins |
| 21:34.49 | Thumper_ | copying the .so files to the root makes it no crash but it doesn't load correctly according to the msgs |
| 21:34.52 | JeffM | makes running and debuging easier |
| 21:35.03 | JeffM | Thumper_, yeah that is a bug on my part I am fixing |
| 21:35.21 | JeffM | it's trying to -loadpluing HTTPServer.so not -loadplugin ./HTTPServer.so |
| 21:35.36 | Thumper_ | ok |
| 21:36.05 | Thumper_ | what's wrong with adding . to teh search path by default? |
| 21:36.17 | JeffM | ./ |
| 21:36.21 | Thumper_ | ok ./ |
| 21:36.25 | JeffM | nothing |
| 21:36.28 | JeffM | that's what I'm making it do |
| 21:36.42 | JeffM | as well as search the dirs of all validly loaded plugins |
| 21:36.48 | Thumper_ | thinks -loadplugin fastmap.so should work |
| 21:36.56 | JeffM | it does on windows |
| 21:36.57 | Thumper_ | without requiring -loadplugin ./fastmap.so |
| 21:37.04 | JeffM | yeah that's my goal |
| 21:37.20 | Thumper_ | I always run servers with plugins in plugins/ |
| 21:37.27 | Thumper_ | relative to teh server CWD |
| 21:37.38 | Thumper_ | but that's not true when running things in debug off the build dir |
| 21:37.41 | JeffM | I think we should copy all the .so's to there at the end of make |
| 21:37.46 | JeffM | rather then hiding them |
| 21:37.47 | Thumper_ | or just link to them |
| 21:38.01 | JeffM | anything to actualy SHOW them |
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| 21:44.58 | Naveed | Hi there... me and Jefenry have found a serious Bug on Bzflag I am requesting support please |
| 21:45.07 | Naveed | Can anyone please help me and Jefenry? |
| 21:45.30 | Tupone | serious? |
| 21:45.36 | Tupone | Is a game ... |
| 21:45.43 | JeffM | what did you find? |
| 21:46.03 | brad | the F12 key |
| 21:46.47 | Naveed | no |
| 21:46.50 | Naveed | please go to |
| 21:46.51 | Naveed | wtwrp.doenemeier.de:50300 |
| 21:46.58 | JeffM | no |
| 21:46.59 | Naveed | and you can see the problem from there |
| 21:47.02 | JeffM | explain it |
| 21:47.04 | JeffM | what did you find? |
| 21:47.05 | Naveed | ok |
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| 21:47.19 | Naveed | No one can shoot others on the map |
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| 21:47.33 | JeffM | do they get an error? |
| 21:47.37 | Naveed | and we tried refreshed the server |
| 21:47.43 | Naveed | nope |
| 21:47.46 | brad | crazy server vars can cause that |
| 21:47.49 | JeffM | yeah |
| 21:47.51 | Naveed | its just you cant kill anyone |
| 21:47.53 | Thumper_ | too many flags maybe |
| 21:47.56 | JeffM | probably |
| 21:47.59 | Naveed | barley |
| 21:48.01 | JeffM | take stuff out of your config |
| 21:48.06 | brad | or -ms 0 (is that possible?) ;) |
| 21:48.09 | JeffM | see when it starts working |
| 21:48.16 | JeffM | yeah -ms 0 is valid |
| 21:48.17 | Thumper_ | bad I think so |
| 21:48.19 | SpazzyMcGee | Naveed, try /reset * |
| 21:48.21 | Thumper_ | brad* |
| 21:48.26 | SpazzyMcGee | You were playin with variables before |
| 21:48.45 | JeffM | Naveed, there are many things that can cause it, mostly user error, we do not prevent owers from doing stupid things |
| 21:48.55 | JeffM | did it used to work then sudently stop? |
| 21:49.07 | Naveed | it used to work |
| 21:49.10 | Naveed | but now it stopped |
| 21:49.13 | JeffM | what did you change? |
| 21:49.24 | JeffM | something had to change to cause it to stop working |
| 21:49.30 | JeffM | did anyone change any settings? |
| 21:49.34 | JeffM | or the config? |
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| 21:49.58 | Naveed | I changed nothing |
| 21:50.13 | Naveed | i change a couple of stuff in the /set |
| 21:50.16 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r17761 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfsPlugins.cxx: each time a plugin is found, add it's path to the list of valid paths that are checked for other plugins. |
| 21:50.20 | Naveed | with Spazzy |
| 21:50.22 | JeffM | Naveed, ok, so that is more then nothing |
| 21:50.28 | JeffM | whatever you set, was bad |
| 21:50.31 | JeffM | go back to the defaults |
| 21:50.35 | SpazzyMcGee | like I said, /reset * |
| 21:50.38 | JeffM | yeah |
| 21:50.40 | Naveed | I tryed /reset all |
| 21:50.45 | Naveed | but it sayed variable not known |
| 21:50.47 | JeffM | shut it down and start it up again |
| 21:51.02 | Naveed | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:51.03 | JeffM | you screwing up your server is not a serious bug |
| 21:51.07 | JeffM | Naveed, shutdown |
| 21:51.08 | me1 | test? |
| 21:51.14 | Naveed | alright |
| 21:51.16 | Naveed | hold on |
| 21:51.20 | me1 | /reset all and /reset * are not the same |
| 21:51.28 | JeffM | you'll need to shell in and start it again |
| 21:51.38 | JeffM | oh just make him restart ;) |
| 21:51.43 | JeffM | that is sure to work |
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| 22:01.46 | Thumper_ | JeffM: cd plugins && find . -name '*.so' -exec ln -s {} . \; |
| 22:01.52 | Thumper_ | should put links to all your plugins |
| 22:02.03 | JeffM | put that at the end of make :) |
| 22:02.10 | Thumper_ | have to figure out how to do that :) |
| 22:02.13 | Thumper_ | with Makefile.am |
| 22:02.20 | JeffM | that's make it a lot simpler I'd think, do you? |
| 22:02.25 | Thumper_ | yup |
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| 22:10.57 | Naveed | Another question |
| 22:11.05 | Naveed | What does Wrong end shots mean? |
| 22:11.10 | Naveed | It keeps kicking players for that |
| 22:11.21 | JeffM | you have packetloss |
| 22:11.31 | Naveed | but lag is low |
| 22:11.32 | Naveed | and all |
| 22:11.39 | Naveed | eveyone gets kicked |
| 22:11.45 | JeffM | packetloss is NOT lag |
| 22:11.51 | JeffM | it is packets getting lost |
| 22:12.03 | Naveed | Do you think if the person hosting to bzfs 2.0.10 would fix the problem? |
| 22:12.15 | JeffM | what are they using now? |
| 22:12.22 | Naveed | 2.0.8 |
| 22:12.30 | JeffM | probably not but it can't hurt the try |
| 22:12.43 | Naveed | ok |
| 22:12.43 | JeffM | it is more then likely network related |
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| 22:23.51 | Naveed | Is there bzflag 2.0.10 for linux? |
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| 22:43.37 | JeffM | Naveed, sure |
| 22:43.41 | JeffM | source code |
| 22:44.08 | Naveed | boy can Temp_work be a jerk or what! |
| 22:44.10 | CBG` | Oh boy. |
| 22:44.18 | Naveed | CBG chill |
| 22:44.26 | temp_work | wow, you really don't want to bleed our conflict to here |
| 22:44.51 | Naveed | No just drop it and let me get in planetmofo. I really didnt do anything wrong |
| 22:44.55 | JeffM | Naveed, private issues are private |
| 22:45.00 | JeffM | keep them that way |
| 22:45.08 | Naveed | alright |
| 22:45.11 | JeffM | or mofo won't be the only place you can't get to |
| 22:45.15 | CBG` | All of my love, all of my kissinâ, you donât know what youâve been a-missin'. |
| 22:45.23 | Naveed | ? |
| 22:46.40 | JeffM | he's just beeing silly |
| 22:47.18 | CBG` | Bah, wrong window. Didn't mean to sing in the dev channel, JeffM. Please accept my sincere apologies! |
| 22:47.36 | Naveed | HA |
| 22:47.40 | JeffM | heh |
| 22:47.41 | Naveed | Yeah right |
| 22:47.48 | JeffM | we'll live |
| 22:48.13 | JBdiGriz | So all of the other admins can work him over, since he's only apologizing to JeffM |
| 22:48.21 | CBG` | Everyone here...? Oh well. We can't always have everything how we want it, right? |
| 22:48.44 | CBG` | JBdiGriz: I merely apologised to the most recently active OP. :) |
| 22:49.03 | JeffM | has no @ |
| 22:49.10 | JBdiGriz | And he didn't even have to op himself. |
| 22:49.12 | JeffM | I was couped |
| 22:49.17 | JeffM | has no power |
| 22:49.37 | CBG` | I thought you still were OP, just didn't have the auto-OP level? |
| 22:50.11 | JeffM | levels are gone |
| 22:50.17 | JeffM | mourns the levels |
| 22:50.21 | JBdiGriz | You have to make him mad, and then he transforms |
| 22:50.32 | JeffM | no I rais my magic sword above my head |
| 22:50.39 | CBG` | It's easily done... but do I dare take the risk? |
| 22:50.48 | JBdiGriz | You won't like him when he's mad |
| 22:51.01 | CBG` | Wanna bet? >:) |
| 22:52.56 | JeffM | don't make me hungry.. you wouldn't like me when I'm hungry |
| 22:53.06 | Naveed | LOL |
| 22:53.47 | JeffM | ok, so I can't get bz_loadplugin to segfault, but I also can't get it to find the plugin :( |
| 22:54.11 | Thumper_ | and I can't get it to set breakpoints in a plugin... |
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| 22:54.26 | JeffM | well you have OTHER issues |
| 22:54.30 | Thumper_ | :-P |
| 22:54.53 | JeffM | I'm going to throw in some -d debug loging into the load process so we can see what the intput is |
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| 22:58.06 | KTL | svntrunk compiles |
| 23:01.49 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r17764 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzfs/ (bzfsAPI.cxx bzfsPlugins.cxx): extended loging of the plugin search and load process at levels 3 and 4 |
| 23:02.15 | KTL | it compiles |
| 23:02.26 | JeffM | well yeah it should :) |
| 23:02.29 | JeffM | I did, test it |
| 23:03.16 | KTL | slept 4 hours and jumped back on the convertor old style map -> mesh map |
| 23:04.23 | JeffM | hmmm for some reason find plugin is returning true for HTTPServer.so with out any ./ |
| 23:04.31 | JeffM | yet the lib load fails |
| 23:05.08 | Thumper_ | is it HTTPServer or HTTPServer.so ? |
| 23:05.13 | Thumper_ | since HTTPServer is a dir |
| 23:05.34 | JeffM | can fopen open a dir? |
| 23:05.39 | Thumper_ | LoadPlugin find returned: plugins/HTTPServer |
| 23:05.47 | Thumper_ | that's pointing at the dir not HTTPSERVER.so |
| 23:05.52 | Thumper_ | and that won't load |
| 23:06.06 | JeffM | yeah I think I need to verify that it's not a dir in addition to just fopening it |
| 23:06.18 | Thumper_ | fopen will probably open it |
| 23:06.28 | JeffM | k |
| 23:06.31 | JeffM | has a plan |
| 23:06.32 | Thumper_ | since ultimately everythign is a file in unix |
| 23:06.39 | Thumper_ | or can be treated as one normally |
| 23:08.34 | CBG` | Where'd delusional go? |
| 23:08.38 | JeffM | away |
| 23:08.58 | CBG` | Far far away? |
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| 23:09.05 | CBG` | Or just to the shop for some milk? |
| 23:09.18 | JeffM | ask him |
| 23:09.39 | CBG` | Did you get milk, delusional? |
| 23:10.00 | delusional | I did get milk, thankyou |
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| 23:10.49 | CBG` | thought JeffM was gonna stop the bz dev for the most part? :) |
| 23:11.03 | JeffM | no, I said I'd cut back on admin |
| 23:11.06 | JeffM | and I Have |
| 23:11.12 | JeffM | I don't admin the boards, or images, etc... |
| 23:11.20 | CBG` | Indeed you have. :) |
| 23:11.35 | JeffM | for dev I'll go thru spurts |
| 23:11.35 | CBG` | And I bet the place is chaotic for it now :P |
| 23:11.40 | KTL | what would be the ideal way to put the normals in a box world? |
| 23:11.47 | JeffM | naw there are fine people taking care of the day to tday |
| 23:12.14 | JeffM | KTL, meshs that are shaped like boxes? |
| 23:12.27 | KTL | yes, i just have a map with euhm |
| 23:12.31 | KTL | one side very dark |
| 23:12.35 | KTL | other side bright |
| 23:12.40 | JeffM | yep you need normals |
| 23:12.53 | JeffM | make a vector form the first vert to the second |
| 23:13.01 | JeffM | and another vector from the first to the third |
| 23:13.03 | JeffM | normalise them |
| 23:13.08 | JeffM | cross product them |
| 23:13.10 | KTL | myes, i started doubting if i intended a map with half of it very dark |
| 23:13.15 | JeffM | normalise that |
| 23:13.23 | JeffM | that is the normal for the face |
| 23:13.39 | KTL | takes screenshot |
| 23:13.51 | JeffM | so V2-V1 cross V3-V1 normalised |
| 23:14.16 | JeffM | or you can cheap it if you know what side of the box the face is |
| 23:14.22 | JeffM | top always == 0,0,1 |
| 23:14.28 | JeffM | bottom == 0,0,-1 |
| 23:14.36 | KTL | i did not want overlapping faces to be visible |
| 23:14.49 | JeffM | and the sides are cos(rot+side),sin(rot+side),0 |
| 23:14.55 | KTL | so all boxes should have some agreement about the normals they use |
| 23:15.04 | KTL | so i took their x,y coordinates |
| 23:15.06 | JeffM | then compute them from the face |
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| 23:15.26 | Happy_Alice | hi dear devs !! |
| 23:15.30 | JeffM | the cross product gives you the vector normal to it's input |
| 23:15.32 | JeffM | hello |
| 23:15.44 | Happy_Alice | a question...about utf8 |
| 23:15.58 | JeffM | KTL, as long as your winding order is consistent the normals should be consistent |
| 23:16.00 | KTL | but if you do that overlapping faces will look obvious |
| 23:16.04 | KTL | mmm |
| 23:16.12 | JeffM | KTL, not if they are coplanar |
| 23:16.17 | JeffM | they will have the same normal |
| 23:16.37 | Happy_Alice | in the trunk, in order to print utf8 in the hud, is there a specific way to hold utf8 string ?? |
| 23:16.38 | JeffM | thats why you subtract V2 from V1 |
| 23:16.45 | JeffM | that givces you the VECTOR, not the position |
| 23:16.59 | JeffM | Happy_Alice, std::string |
| 23:17.05 | JeffM | unicode fits into a normal string |
| 23:17.09 | JeffM | it's not multibyte |
| 23:17.17 | Happy_Alice | std::string support utf8 ? |
| 23:17.21 | JeffM | yeah |
| 23:17.27 | JeffM | hence the 8 in UTF8 ;) |
| 23:17.31 | JeffM | it's only 8bits |
| 23:17.33 | JeffM | a char |
| 23:17.37 | Happy_Alice | so i can concatenate, etc... |
| 23:17.37 | JeffM | same thing in a std::string |
| 23:17.40 | JeffM | yeah |
| 23:17.51 | JeffM | you are thinking of multibyte where each character is a short |
| 23:17.58 | JeffM | that's not what unicode is |
| 23:17.59 | Happy_Alice | but if i want to send it in the history buffer? |
| 23:18.02 | KTL | http://users.edpnet.be/dpf/bz/bzfi0122.jpg <- what i generate now |
| 23:18.25 | JeffM | KTL, how do you compute those? |
| 23:19.05 | JeffM | Happy_Alice, what does that mean? |
| 23:19.07 | KTL | fixed upwards value, and the x y values are the vertex coordinates, i did not take proper normalizing into account |
| 23:19.25 | JeffM | KTL, the XYZ coordnate of the point has no bearing on the normal |
| 23:19.51 | JeffM | the normal for a box is the same if it's at the origon or if it's 100 units over |
| 23:19.56 | KTL | normally not, but i did not see another way of making independent boxes agree on their color |
| 23:20.18 | Happy_Alice | i have a string from google translator. Now, i want to send it to the hud |
| 23:20.18 | JeffM | do these meshes have a rotation value? |
| 23:20.21 | JeffM | Happy_Alice, just send it |
| 23:20.29 | JeffM | there are a couple functions that do it |
| 23:20.33 | JeffM | just search for the other messages |
| 23:20.38 | KTL | the meshes not, the original boxes yes |
| 23:20.40 | JeffM | unicode is NOT special in it's handling |
| 23:20.49 | Happy_Alice | i did it.... but all character are not well displayed |
| 23:20.51 | JeffM | KTL, ok so the verts are where they are in 3d space. |
| 23:20.59 | KTL | yes |
| 23:21.03 | JeffM | Happy_Alice, then step thru in a debuger and see |
| 23:21.06 | Happy_Alice | especially non latin character |
| 23:21.25 | JeffM | KTL, then you need to compute the 2 vectors like I said |
| 23:21.54 | JeffM | the vector form V1 to V2 and V1 to V3 will give you 2 axes in the plane of the face |
| 23:22.07 | JeffM | the cross will be the normal of that plane |
| 23:22.22 | KTL | since i know they the orientation of the horizontal planes |
| 23:22.33 | KTL | i can simply say 0 0 1 |
| 23:22.53 | JeffM | that will work on any face in any orienation as long as the face is planar, and not degeneate |
| 23:23.03 | JeffM | KTL, that's only valid for the tops |
| 23:23.05 | JeffM | the bottoms are -1 |
| 23:23.06 | KTL | you said it |
| 23:23.18 | KTL | tests :) |
| 23:23.37 | JeffM | as for overlap, both faces will compute the same normal, because they have the same plane |
| 23:23.50 | JeffM | so they will have the same light |
| 23:24.10 | JeffM | there still may be graphical issues, but that will be due to z fighting on the face, not the normal |
| 23:24.55 | KTL | solved those :) |
| 23:25.05 | JeffM | trimmed them up? |
| 23:25.25 | KTL | all top surfaces same texture aligned with the world |
| 23:25.32 | JeffM | ahh |
| 23:25.36 | JeffM | that's cheeze ;) |
| 23:25.38 | KTL | so whatever the graphics card wants to show, it's the same |
| 23:25.48 | JeffM | throw them in a BSP and clip them ;) |
| 23:26.35 | KTL | i currently have a really simply stupid python script that doesnt have to do anything else but convert linearly :) |
| 23:27.39 | JeffM | bsp.. bsp.. bsp ;) |
| 23:27.53 | JeffM | basicly make it a quake map |
| 23:28.03 | KTL | i might have a thesis next year about non axis aligned speedup structures btw :) |
| 23:28.07 | Thumper_ | JeffM: it works |
| 23:28.17 | JeffM | it does? |
| 23:28.26 | Thumper_ | I'll be commiting it shortly |
| 23:28.27 | JeffM | does it like HOST? |
| 23:28.37 | Thumper_ | reordered the lookup and refactored a bit |
| 23:28.40 | JeffM | oh dude, I'm in the middle of commting a big change :) |
| 23:28.51 | Thumper_ | ok I can fix it after your commit :) |
| 23:29.26 | Thumper_ | basically I reordered it so it looks for 'with extension' first |
| 23:29.33 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r17766 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfsPlugins.cxx: do smarter checks when loading plugins, only us the base name if it has path stuff in it, otherwise tack paths on. |
| 23:29.35 | Thumper_ | since plugins/HTTPServer is a dir |
| 23:29.46 | JeffM | ahh extension first you say? |
| 23:29.48 | JeffM | k |
| 23:30.05 | Thumper_ | and it should be smart enough to not add teh extension if it's already part of the name but I didn't change that |
| 23:30.45 | JeffM | then I'm going to make one more change. |
| 23:31.06 | Thumper_ | http://pastebin.bzflag.bz/m6fab604a |
| 23:32.28 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r17767 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfsPlugins.cxx: only check the base name with no extension if it HAS an extension in it. |
| 23:32.30 | JeffM | there |
| 23:32.39 | JeffM | that does smart checks |
| 23:33.03 | JeffM | so if you just pass in NAME, it'll know to tack on paths and .whatever |
| 23:33.19 | JeffM | tho if you have a dir called name.so, you are STUPID |
| 23:33.24 | Thumper_ | heh |
| 23:33.31 | JeffM | cool |
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| 23:33.54 | JeffM | so were you able to go to http://servername:port/ ? |
| 23:34.09 | Thumper_ | I didn't try that - just got it to load both so far |
| 23:34.14 | JeffM | k |
| 23:34.15 | Thumper_ | pulls your new changes and builds it again |
| 23:34.22 | JeffM | it should show you an index for fastmap |
| 23:34.25 | JeffM | that means it's working |
| 23:35.06 | JeffM | then I can port the last 3 plugins over and build a generic token checker |
| 23:35.12 | Thumper_ | index page has a 'fastmap' link |
| 23:35.23 | Thumper_ | clicking it hangs |
| 23:35.27 | Thumper_ | (the browser) |
| 23:35.39 | CBG` | faaaaaaaaaastt map |
| 23:35.52 | Thumper_ | heh got the hTML output on the debug bzfs output |
| 23:36.34 | Thumper_ | but I'm running with -dddd so maybe that's normal |
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| 23:51.28 | JeffM | you did, odd |
| 23:51.35 | JeffM | ok well at least HTTP is responding. |
| 23:51.40 | JeffM | how big is the map? |
| 23:54.13 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r17768 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/HTTPServer/HTTPServer.cpp: go into a tighter loop when there are connected users |
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| 23:56.16 | JeffM | works for me on a normal random map |
| 23:57.02 | CIA-35 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r17769 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/fastmap/fastmap.cpp: whitespace |
| 23:59.32 | KTL | JeffM, the faces that throw a shadow on the ground are supposed to be darker right? |
| 23:59.44 | KTL | is puzzling with normals |
| 23:59.59 | JeffM | that's an oversimplication but the ones that face away from the light are suposed to be darker |
