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| 00:35.29 | Flash | is there adult supervision present? |
| 00:35.55 | Winny | nope |
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| 00:40.12 | spldart | Heh |
| 00:41.56 | CIA-33 | BZFlag: 03kingofcamelot * r17333 10/branches/gsoc_server_listing/src/bzflag/ (HUDuiScrollList.cxx HUDuiScrollList.h): HUDuiScrollList now respects it's right bound and won't render items past the right bound, instead it shortens them during display. |
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| 00:45.20 | Flash | JeffM: you will be happy to know that I found a bug and I would like your opinion on one of two possible solutions |
| 00:45.38 | JeffM | i die now |
| 00:45.43 | Flash | ServerCommandKey (o) doesn't scroll through all the options |
| 00:46.11 | JeffM | DTRemenak, if i dont make it. take over the store |
| 00:46.20 | Flash | the problem is that if the resulting prompt is a null string, HUDRenderer calls HUDui::setFocus(NULL) and no further key presses are handled |
| 00:46.34 | JeffM | k |
| 00:46.42 | Flash | the solution is to either remove the options with no prompt (Register, Identify) or not call setFocus |
| 00:46.55 | JeffM | remove |
| 00:47.01 | Flash | that was my choice |
| 00:47.01 | JeffM | blank is bad |
| 00:47.24 | Flash | the whole ServerCommandKey is glitz anyway ;-) |
| 00:47.51 | JeffM | i smell purple |
| 00:48.05 | Flash | does it smell like the color 9? |
| 00:48.32 | JeffM | Lukstr, your shirt no go today |
| 00:48.53 | JeffM | Lukstr, your shirt no go today |
| 00:49.02 | JeffM | fell slkeep b4 could tell dtr how to ship |
| 00:53.16 | spldart | What... the.. hell! |
| 00:53.25 | JeffM | sick |
| 00:53.44 | spldart | Oh! I was wondering why you were late online today. |
| 00:54.02 | spldart | You'll have to review logs for today when you get better... |
| 00:54.15 | spldart | I made a nuisance of myself to the students |
| 00:54.16 | JeffM | nyquill make fuzzy |
| 00:54.22 | JeffM | yay |
| 00:55.02 | spldart | We just have one that is really standing out in his absence of effort right now. The others are varying degrees of applied to the project. |
| 00:55.17 | spldart | Anywho... You get better |
| 00:55.23 | JeffM | yell more at him |
| 00:55.33 | spldart | LOL |
| 00:55.56 | Flash | if a mentor yells in the forest and no one hears him.... |
| 00:56.05 | spldart | He's on Nyquil |
| 00:56.13 | JeffM | and all your dreams are strange,love comes walking in |
| 00:56.49 | Flash | there should be a Nyquil corollary to "never program and drink beer" |
| 00:57.08 | JeffM | balmer peak |
| 00:59.44 | spldart | Hrm... I should try crossing nyquil, vicodin and malt liquor....... Nah. |
| 00:59.48 | spldart | ;-) |
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| 01:13.11 | jnd | Can you tell me which error is this? http://rafb.net/p/vWyvbu23.html |
| 01:14.26 | Flash | looks like you are getting a signal |
| 01:15.07 | Flash | things go badly as you are exiting |
| 01:16.12 | spldart | heh heheh heh it said 'Taint' |
| 01:16.15 | spldart | sry :( |
| 01:16.46 | jnd | well, BZFlag suddenly froze so I went to tty and pkilled it and when I was returning to X server the whole system froze so I had to restart |
| 01:17.00 | Flash | pkill would send a signal |
| 01:17.41 | Flash | there's no other useful information (to me) there |
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| 01:19.36 | jnd | error.log says May 31 03:01:04 jnd BUG: scheduling while atomic: bzflag/11742/0x00000003 |
| 01:20.46 | jnd | but I don't have anything else |
| 01:21.42 | jnd | is it kernel issue? |
| 01:23.02 | spldart | :-/ I'm running 2.6.24.1 myself with great stability.. But I'm not doin what your doin. |
| 01:24.32 | jnd | I have 2.6.24.4 |
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| 01:33.28 | spldart | What distro? Debian etch with slightly modified 2.6.24 here. |
| 01:37.58 | jnd | arch default |
| 01:43.49 | spldart | Ah.. sry missed that |
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| 01:48.51 | spldart | is studying up on the reviews of arch. |
| 01:48.54 | spldart | Looks interesting |
| 01:49.09 | spldart | Sry I can't help though. |
| 01:50.27 | jnd | arch is nice :) I am using it about year |
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| 02:03.53 | Quol | jnd, I am running gentoo, but have looked into arch a little bit - do you have any gentoo experience? I would be interested to know what a gentoo individual thinks about arch... |
| 02:04.04 | Quol | I am getting real tired of the 3 day compile times :) |
| 02:04.40 | Flash | 3 days? |
| 02:04.58 | Flash | or is that the whole OS |
| 02:06.17 | Flash | darn. fix one bug find another one |
| 02:07.07 | AAA_awright | Gentoo ftw |
| 02:07.57 | Quol | ya - emerge --update --deep --newuse --verbose --ask world.....= days of compiling :) |
| 02:08.15 | Quol | usually that is... |
| 02:08.27 | JeffM | a tank |
| 02:08.30 | jnd | Quol: no, I haven't use it, I like binary packages, fast install & ready to use :) |
| 02:08.37 | AAA_awright | Quol: Performance is amazing, package manager is amazing, init scripts are amazing, kernel is amazing, the only "lose" part is dependency on Python, and the waiting. |
| 02:08.48 | JeffM | ww |
| 02:08.52 | AAA_awright | You can enable binary packages, but you can't set USE flags |
| 02:09.17 | AAA_awright | And there are no official biniary packages except the portage snapshots |
| 02:09.23 | AAA_awright | What did I come here for... |
| 02:09.32 | AAA_awright | I have been thinking about this for a while now, but think I am finally stuck: I have a C++ structure that defines various permissions. I need to be able to do a few things: Have an integer value for each permissions, like an enumeration, iterate through all the permission's integer values, and convert a text string to and from (mostly to) an integer value , and it needs to be available in a... |
| 02:09.34 | AAA_awright | ...single type (class, structure, etc) |
| 02:09.35 | Quol | AAA_awright, yup..I was just about to say that :) |
| 02:10.16 | Quol | gentoo has been my os of choice now for close to 4 years....so I am getting the "itch" to try something different - maybe arch is "it" |
| 02:10.48 | AAA_awright | Quol: The only time I have ever had a 3 day compile time is when I changed by CHOST |
| 02:11.06 | AAA_awright | And even then it was closer to 30 hours |
| 02:11.23 | Quol | I just finished one now - possibly becuase I haven't emerge -uavDN world in a year - that could be it too ;) |
| 02:11.54 | AAA_awright | Mhm, yeah, update regularly, otherwise you get horrible conflicts which are usually resolved, but you still have to do it manually |
| 02:12.14 | Quol | yup - there was a lot of conflicts in this round... |
| 02:12.55 | Quol | but all better now. ALthough - I am coming to realize that I don't want to "play" with the OS - I want to "use" my OS for other things...which has me looking around |
| 02:12.56 | AAA_awright | Update portage, kernel, coreutils, python, portage again, then everything else. In that order. |
| 02:13.14 | Quol | but in general - I agree - rock solid, gentoo is great - except for the waiting |
| 02:14.01 | Quol | ya -this last update I couldnt even update portage...had to do a couple of "tricks" to get the new version on |
| 02:14.13 | Quol | circular blocks |
| 02:14.32 | Quol | especially with coreutils |
| 02:14.44 | Quol | coreutils blocking linuxutils |
| 02:14.47 | Quol | bla bla bla |
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| 02:17.05 | AAA_awright | Oh, that is my other dislike of python comes from. All the scripts that use Python, at least for me, take an entire 1/4 second to start, while Python imports the libraries. |
| 02:17.43 | AAA_awright | Sometimes it even takes a 1/2 second :o |
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| 02:19.37 | Quol | ya - but you will get that with any interpreted language... |
| 02:20.53 | Quol | but interrpeted languages have other benefits also...but I find 2.4 is a little quicker |
| 02:21.31 | Quol | although - having the system dependant on python, and pythons version has also mesed up other things - like trac for instance |
| 02:21.46 | Quol | trac at one point only really supported python 2.3 |
| 02:21.56 | Quol | and at one point, emerge required 2.4 |
| 02:22.29 | Quol | upgrading pretty much messed up trac for me then...(that was a couple of years back though) |
| 02:23.53 | Flash | once you are an admin, is there any need to enter the server password? |
| 02:24.24 | Quol | Flash, not really, unless you remove perms from group based admins |
| 02:24.42 | Quol | on my servers - group based admins do not have some permissions |
| 02:25.08 | Flash | ok... it's arguably correct to be able to cycle through all the commands, I'll leave it |
| 02:25.17 | Quol | they can do 99% - just that extra 1% requires local.admn |
| 02:25.54 | Quol | but if you to adminGroup *local.admin - pretty much everything is do-able without doing a /password |
| 02:26.32 | Flash | I wasn't talking about removing /password, just wondering if you need to cycle through it from the 'o' key |
| 02:26.56 | Quol | oh - I never do that...I just type in the command |
| 02:27.04 | Quol | type in /? |
| 02:27.10 | Quol | you will get a list of all the commands |
| 02:27.20 | Quol | then you can do /whatever |
| 02:27.38 | Quol | and usually a help screen will pop-up with the correct syntax that yuou need |
| 02:27.48 | Quol | a help message I should say |
| 02:29.10 | me1 | "unknown command [whatever]" |
| 02:29.16 | Quol | lol |
| 02:29.34 | Quol | ok - replace "whatever" with a valid command |
| 02:29.36 | Quol | :) |
| 02:29.40 | me1 | :P |
| 02:34.51 | CIA-33 | BZFlag: 03jwmelto * r17334 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzflag/ (ServerCommandKey.cxx ServerCommandKey.h): |
| 02:34.51 | CIA-33 | BZFlag: Remove Register and Identify so scrolling through the commands doesn't lock up. |
| 02:34.51 | CIA-33 | BZFlag: Also, clean up the places where we depend on the length of things so it is |
| 02:34.51 | CIA-33 | BZFlag: more flexible when commands are added or removed. |
| 02:35.13 | Flash | why did sourceforge decide to expire my password? |
| 02:35.19 | Flash | too many things to remember.... |
| 02:35.45 | blast007 | Flash: change it to something else, and then change it back ;) |
| 02:36.14 | Flash | I probably need to; I almost forgot what I changed it to earlier |
| 02:54.19 | CIA-33 | BZFlag: 03jwmelto * r17335 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzflag/ServerCommandKey.cxx: Handle the case where we get disconnected while waiting for input |
| 02:58.50 | Flash | does anyone know why Ping is in net? It seems very game-related |
| 03:24.40 | TD-Linux | heh I never even knew of the o key's existence o.O |
| 03:25.03 | blast007 | hehe |
| 03:25.07 | Flash | lot's easier than /lagstats |
| 03:25.54 | Flash | is glad Jeff is drugged up so he can't complain about gratuitous code reorg ;-) |
| 03:26.33 | TD-Linux | oh I remember that |
| 03:26.40 | TD-Linux | it cycles through commands though? |
| 03:26.45 | TD-Linux | learns something new |
| 03:26.47 | Flash | up/down arrows |
| 03:26.58 | me1 | or press o alot |
| 03:27.05 | Flash | and, you can use left/right to pick a target (for those commands that support targets) |
| 03:27.20 | Flash | me1: no, each time you press you get the last command |
| 03:27.21 | TD-Linux | that's why people always beat me in ban races :/ |
| 03:27.32 | me1 | Flash, really? |
| 03:27.34 | me1 | tests |
| 03:27.37 | Flash | I don't know; I've never used it for banning |
| 03:27.40 | Flash | tests too |
| 03:27.48 | TD-Linux | is tired and goes to bed |
| 03:28.02 | L4m3r | arrows have never worked for me... it may have something to do with the fact that I drive by keyboard |
| 03:28.04 | me1 | nope, o does nothing after you open it |
| 03:28.27 | Flash | L4m3r: yes, if your input mode is keyboard, then arrows still belong to directional movement |
| 03:29.01 | Flash | although if the arrows aren't bound to directional movement, one could argue that they should scroll commands |
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| 03:31.45 | Flash | brlcad: can I yank all the debugging prints from FontManager and related classes? I think it's stable now |
| 03:32.04 | spldart | Been quite a day |
| 03:33.04 | Flash | win the lotto? |
| 03:33.29 | spldart | I wish |
| 03:34.10 | Mets | ah, I'm behind tonight I see |
| 03:34.13 | brlcad | Flash: I'll give the test machine that was crashing a test tomorrow |
| 03:34.22 | Flash | ok |
| 03:34.51 | Mets | i actually noticed the o thing earlier Flash, when I tried to cause a lag spike with a mass client query |
| 03:35.05 | Flash | me too; that's why I fixed it ;-) |
| 03:35.12 | Mets | :p thank you |
| 03:35.33 | Mets | I don't know of the gprof output was of any help, i think it's too big to be useful |
| 03:38.53 | Mets | I still think there's a bug, I lag out on norang after maybe 1 minute |
| 03:39.11 | Mets | but i don't know why we were able to play fine for so long |
| 03:40.33 | Mets | I vote we have ibot fix it |
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| 03:43.57 | Flash | ~fix bzflag |
| 03:43.58 | ibot | ACTION opens the hood of bzflag , looks inside and says "that'll be 500 dollars." |
| 03:47.16 | spldart | heh |
| 03:47.30 | spldart | ASE certified bot 'eh |
| 04:05.29 | spldart | is about ready to pass out tired |
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| 04:16.43 | CIA-33 | BZFlag: 03kingofcamelot * r17336 10/branches/gsoc_server_listing/src/bzflag/HUDuiScrollList.cxx: Cleaning up and commenting the code. |
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| 04:48.57 | brlcad | ~KingofCamelot++ |
| 04:49.27 | Flash | indeed. he's setting the pace |
| 04:50.29 | brlcad | yup, and following the dev style :) |
| 04:53.58 | KingofCamelot | Thanks for the kind words :) |
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| 09:18.19 | Constitution_001 | yawns |
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| 09:49.04 | Manu | KingofCamelot: +// We need to update both the stringList nad the labelList |
| 09:49.10 | Manu | what is wrong? ;) |
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| 10:01.50 | tj13820 | how do you compile linux server plugins? |
| 10:03.43 | CIA-33 | BZFlag: 03wyk3d * r17337 10/trunk/bzauthd/ (138 files in 8 dirs): |
| 10:03.43 | CIA-33 | BZFlag: * Added a hackish windows port of the gcrypt library and its dependency, the gpg-error library |
| 10:03.43 | CIA-33 | BZFlag: * Linked them to the test project |
| 10:04.38 | tj13820 | does anyone know of a guide? i couldn't find one on the forums. |
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| 10:16.39 | KingofCamelot | @Manu, um, not sure what you're getting at? |
| 10:18.36 | Mets | a guide of what tj |
| 10:18.45 | Mets | oh |
| 10:18.56 | tj13820 | compilation, but i don't need it now. the file i need is in an .so format |
| 10:19.04 | Mets | that's already compiled |
| 10:19.22 | Mets | for linux you should compile the plugins |
| 10:19.23 | Manu | KingofCamelot: read it ;) |
| 10:19.32 | tj13820 | but, i cannot use bzadmin to load plugins. i get an error "unknown command [loadplugin ###########] |
| 10:19.44 | Mets | that means you didn't compile bzfs with plugin support |
| 10:19.45 | tj13820 | of course the plugin isn't ###### |
| 10:19.59 | Manu | KingofCamelot: there is a typo bug ) |
| 10:20.00 | Mets | no the command doesn't work, because you didn't compile bzfs with plugin support |
| 10:20.04 | tj13820 | is there a ready made one? |
| 10:20.09 | tj13820 | for ubuntu |
| 10:20.17 | Mets | just recompile it |
| 10:20.28 | Mets | when you run configure, add --enable-plugins --enable-shared |
| 10:20.29 | tj13820 | okay. from SVN? |
| 10:20.35 | Mets | sure from any source |
| 10:20.50 | tj13820 | or how about sudo dpkg-reconfigure bzfs |
| 10:20.54 | tj13820 | and do it there |
| 10:20.58 | tj13820 | would it work? |
| 10:21.11 | Mets | that will install a prebuilt package i believe, so i'm not sure if the version on apt comes with plugin support |
| 10:21.28 | Mets | this is for branch right, version 2.0.x? |
| 10:21.34 | tj13820 | yes |
| 10:21.52 | tj13820 | on Hardyt |
| 10:21.54 | tj13820 | hardy* |
| 10:22.36 | Mets | i'd probably use svn and get the latest code myself, but if not, go to bzflag.org and download 2.0.10 source code |
| 10:22.50 | tj13820 | okay |
| 10:23.10 | tj13820 | and a normal compile will do the trick, just add in the --enable-plugins |
| 10:23.18 | tj13820 | and shared |
| 10:23.22 | Mets | yes |
| 10:23.34 | Mets | the plugins will go to your default lib dir if you don't specify otherwise |
| 10:23.58 | Mets | i use --prefix=/path/to/bzflag and --libdir=/path/to/bzflag/lib to keep track of everything, but that's totally optional |
| 10:24.15 | tj13820 | well, i'm loading them with a .conf file. so i don't need to move them |
| 10:24.48 | tj13820 | at what point should i add in --enable-plugins. before make, and after config? |
| 10:24.54 | Mets | sure, i move them though so i keep it centralized but that's just me |
| 10:25.07 | Mets | are you compiling the client too? |
| 10:25.12 | tj13820 | no |
| 10:25.15 | Mets | bzadmin? |
| 10:25.20 | tj13820 | no |
| 10:25.26 | tj13820 | just the server for plugin support |
| 10:25.43 | tj13820 | unless someone has a prebuilt checkinstall package :-) |
| 10:25.51 | Mets | so you'd type something like ./configure --disable-client --disable-bzadmin --enable-plugins --enable-shared |
| 10:26.04 | KingofCamelot | @Manu, Is there a typo? I may not be the most observant right now, slightly drunk :P |
| 10:28.29 | KingofCamelot | Oh, you met in the comments? lol |
| 10:28.42 | KingofCamelot | That's kinda an unimportant typo :P |
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| 10:31.24 | Manu | KingofCamelot: stringList nad the > stringList *and* the ;) |
| 10:31.35 | KingofCamelot | Ya, just fixed the comment typo :P |
| 10:31.43 | KingofCamelot | Not like it affects the actual code, heh |
| 10:31.52 | Manu | KingofCamelot: no, only to my eyes ;) |
| 10:32.02 | KingofCamelot | ;) |
| 10:32.30 | KingofCamelot | Still need to figure out how to have the tank focus icon move to the individual items on the list...haven't figured that one out |
| 10:33.39 | Manu | KingofCamelot: have you seen how it's done in the menu? |
| 10:34.14 | Manu | or not that tank icon? |
| 10:34.19 | KingofCamelot | Yea...but if I give the labels focus then the up and down keys don't interact with my HUDuiScrollList |
| 10:34.31 | KingofCamelot | cause the focus is on the labels, not the HUDuiScrollList |
| 10:34.39 | KingofCamelot | Or I'm missing something |
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| 10:36.23 | KingofCamelot | Though if you know something I don't, please share. :) |
| 10:37.07 | Manu | first I have to read the code.. but no time right now :( |
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| 10:37.43 | KingofCamelot | No worries...like I said, I'm still fairly drunk so not like I could make intelligent changes right now anyways :P |
| 10:37.47 | KingofCamelot | I'll look more into it tomorrow |
| 10:39.48 | KingofCamelot | About all I can do right now is tell girls I love them when I shouldn't say that :P |
| 10:39.49 | tj13820 | Mets, thank you very much. |
| 10:40.08 | KingofCamelot | Although I think I'm going to code up a paged version of the ScrollList right now |
| 10:40.58 | tj13820 | KingofCamelot: go to spain. "Guapa! Guapa!" |
| 10:41.38 | CIA-33 | BZFlag: 03wyk3d * r17338 10/trunk/bzauthd/libgcrypt/mpi/ (7 files): * Removed some unused asm files from libgcrypt |
| 10:42.01 | Mets | np tj, good luck |
| 10:42.30 | KingofCamelot | I have no idea what Guapa! Guapa! means :P |
| 10:42.55 | tj13820 | In spain, old men are very very forward. |
| 10:43.05 | tj13820 | Guapa literally means "Hot Stuff" in spanish |
| 10:43.24 | KingofCamelot | Huh, funny :) |
| 10:43.37 | tj13820 | you can say that, but you shouldn't :-) |
| 10:43.43 | KingofCamelot | ;) |
| 10:44.00 | KingofCamelot | Meh, I'm only telling one girl that I love her :P |
| 10:44.03 | Manu | KingofCamelot: guapa -> beautiful |
| 10:44.41 | KingofCamelot | Makes sense |
| 10:44.50 | Manu | KingofCamelot: attractive, good-looking ;) |
| 10:44.57 | Manu | it's female |
| 10:46.05 | tj13820 | Walk up to her and start singin in a country tone "Hey! good lookin. whaaaaat ya got kookin" |
| 10:46.06 | donny_baker | the male counterpart ends in 'o' - guapo.... means hansome |
| 10:46.16 | tj13820 | (or cheese) |
| 10:46.24 | tj13820 | lol |
| 10:46.45 | KingofCamelot | We're talking about spanish right? |
| 10:46.49 | Mets | juan baker |
| 10:46.56 | donny_baker | si |
| 10:47.03 | Mets | good morning :) |
| 10:47.11 | Manu | KingofCamelot: yes |
| 10:47.21 | Mets | couldn't think what donny in spanish was sorry :p |
| 10:47.28 | tj13820 | juanny |
| 10:47.37 | KingofCamelot | She speaks Spanish some, so that works, lol |
| 10:47.41 | Mets | when it doubt, put a j in front |
| 10:47.44 | tj13820 | lol |
| 10:47.46 | tj13820 | yeah |
| 10:47.46 | donny_baker | Manu: just call me pepe (soory to lazy to put accents) ;) |
| 10:47.57 | Manu | donny_baker: :) |
| 10:47.58 | KingofCamelot | What's "I love you beautiful" in spanish? :P |
| 10:47.58 | tj13820 | PePe la PiEw |
| 10:48.04 | donny_baker | hehe |
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| 10:48.17 | tarco | hello |
| 10:48.24 | Manu | KingofCamelot: te amo, preciosa |
| 10:48.32 | tj13820 | definitely not "beso mi asno" |
| 10:48.32 | Manu | lol |
| 10:48.37 | Manu | KingofCamelot: not to you :-p |
| 10:48.42 | tarco | hi |
| 10:48.48 | Mets | hey tarco |
| 10:48.56 | tj13820 | unless you wan't slapped :-) |
| 10:48.57 | KingofCamelot | @Manu, haha |
| 10:49.11 | tarco | i here this is wherewe ask developent questions |
| 10:49.18 | Mets | that it is |
| 10:49.24 | tarco | cool |
| 10:49.24 | tj13820 | just say "Me lamma, el lapiz" |
| 10:49.25 | donny_baker | usually |
| 10:49.29 | Mets | how may we enlighten you this morning |
| 10:49.33 | tj13820 | my name is... the pencil |
| 10:49.40 | short_circuit | heh |
| 10:49.42 | tarco | well it is night where iam |
| 10:49.51 | tarco | anyway |
| 10:50.04 | Mets | lol |
| 10:50.11 | tarco | i would liketo knowhow to set upabz |
| 10:50.18 | tarco | a bz flag server |
| 10:50.44 | Manu | tarco: you can read the wiki |
| 10:50.58 | tarco | oh that on the site |
| 10:51.04 | donny_baker | http://my.bzflag.org/w/Category:Server |
| 10:51.13 | donny_baker | see "Creating a server" |
| 10:51.17 | tarco | oh ok kewl thanks |
| 10:51.24 | donny_baker | no problem |
| 10:51.31 | tarco | have you got any surgestions though |
| 10:51.51 | tj13820 | Mi favorito juego online multijugador es bzflag. |
| 10:51.55 | Mets | get a good connection :) |
| 10:52.22 | tarco | yeah it the best forwhere iam |
| 10:53.09 | tarco | might be a bit slow from where youare |
| 10:54.55 | donny_baker | tarco, there are lots of servers out there.. the ones that people play on all the time have a good administrative team |
| 10:55.11 | donny_baker | and of course a good map |
| 10:55.35 | KingofCamelot | @Manu..te amo, preciosa :P |
| 10:56.05 | tarco | yeah i have been looking around at the ones that do well |
| 10:56.49 | donny_baker | if you have been around a while, you will notice the maps change sometimes, but it is usually the same 4 or 5 server groups always on top |
| 10:56.53 | tarco | and in that i am developing what i hope would bea good map |
| 10:57.09 | tarco | yeah i have noticed that |
| 10:57.20 | donny_baker | yeah, take it slow... people will tell you what needs to be improved on your map |
| 10:57.42 | tarco | thats good |
| 10:57.56 | donny_baker | listen take their advice and figure out how you think their advice best fits the direction you want your map to go |
| 10:58.20 | tarco | yeah |
| 10:58.36 | tarco | bit like selective hearing |
| 10:58.41 | tj13820 | tarco: if you want a host, i might be able to help. |
| 10:58.55 | tarco | huh |
| 10:59.00 | tj13820 | i have 2 people hosted now, PM me if you are interested :-) |
| 10:59.13 | tarco | oh you are hosting |
| 10:59.16 | tj13820 | yes |
| 11:00.56 | tarco | kewl |
| 11:01.22 | donny_baker | i am also happy to throw up a map for testing... and if it's good even for some longer term hosting |
| 11:01.41 | tarco | that what iwas thinking ofdoing |
| 11:02.14 | donny_baker | either way works, you have more control if you do it yourself ;) |
| 11:02.29 | donny_baker | and a quicker response time :) |
| 11:02.37 | tarco | youmean of the map or hosting |
| 11:02.55 | tj13820 | i wouldn't mind giving you admin perms, you just can't abuse them. also, i can give you FTP access to your files |
| 11:03.01 | tj13820 | so you have direct acces to edit them |
| 11:03.28 | tarco | yeah |
| 11:03.45 | tarco | there is a cos though |
| 11:04.37 | tarco | tj13820 i have pm u i think |
| 11:06.08 | tj13820 | El diablo bajó a Georgia, fue lookin para un alma a robar. |
| 11:06.38 | tj13820 | (yes, lookin is English, because it isn't right with the "G") |
| 11:09.49 | KingofCamelot | @Manu...what time is it in Spain right now? |
| 11:16.42 | tj13820 | Tome en mÃÂ. tener en mÃÂ. me llevan. tener en mÃÂ. ¡ya ido, en un dÃÂa |
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| 11:30.58 | Manu | KingofCamelot: 13:31 |
| 11:36.38 | whodaman | [13:30] <Manu> KingofCamelot: 13:31 |
| 11:36.43 | whodaman | hehe :p |
| 11:37.12 | Manu | whodaman: a diff of 2 seconds ;) |
| 11:37.38 | Manu | whodaman: 07:30 <@Manu> KingofCamelot: 13:31 |
| 11:37.42 | Manu | :-p |
| 11:41.11 | short_circuit | Was someone singing a old charlie daniels band song in spanish?!?! |
| 11:41.21 | *** mode/#bzflag [+v spldart] by ChanServ |
| 11:41.32 | Manu | morning spldart :) |
| 11:41.39 | spldart | morning |
| 11:42.41 | Mets | hey guys i finished the new logo for 3.0 |
| 11:42.50 | Mets | http://www.core77.com/blog/images/Balloon-Tank.jpg |
| 11:43.10 | Mets | i was trying to shed a happy mood on the dev team |
| 11:43.28 | spldart | Welcome to last month ;) |
| 11:43.33 | Mets | lol |
| 11:43.46 | Mets | who wants to pop it? |
| 11:44.04 | spldart | would be funny to see that rolling on amap as an optional rogue tank color |
| 11:44.17 | Mets | lol |
| 11:44.38 | spldart | Use some clown name for the tanker handle. |
| 11:44.52 | spldart | Bozo is on a killing spree! |
| 11:45.15 | whodaman | lol |
| 11:45.52 | spldart | Even better... SW is instead a big balloon that inflates then pops killing other tankers |
| 11:46.18 | spldart | It would even scare the kiddies off the server. |
| 11:47.10 | Mets | :p |
| 11:51.16 | tj13820 | short_circuit: i was doin that :-) |
| 11:51.59 | spldart | Very amusing :) |
| 11:51.59 | tj13820 | short_circuit: i also sang "A-Ha" take on me - in spanish |
| 11:52.05 | spldart | LOL! |
| 11:52.24 | spldart | What next? Boy George? Madonna? |
| 11:52.29 | spldart | :-D |
| 11:52.36 | tj13820 | the part where the african american does the back flip, Rick Astley does a double take, and says in a whisper "Guapo" |
| 11:52.53 | tj13820 | no |
| 11:53.01 | spldart | OH! is that what started the quapo thing? |
| 11:53.02 | tj13820 | Rick Astley "never gonna let you down" |
| 11:53.46 | tj13820 | no i think KingofKamelot did |
| 11:53.48 | Manu | spldart: KingofCamelot was talking to a girl and asked for "guapa" means |
| 11:54.09 | tj13820 | i started it upon his conversation |
| 11:54.28 | tj13820 | i said "just walk up to her and say 'Guapa! Guapa!'" |
| 11:55.11 | spldart | oop KoC is woo-ing some chica? |
| 11:55.39 | tj13820 | Nunca va a darle. Nunca va a dejar que usted. Nunca va a funcionar y el desierto! |
| 11:55.45 | tj13820 | Si |
| 11:57.39 | tj13820 | Hay 4 bases en el béisbol. En el amor, una propuesta es una huelga, es un brindis huelga dos, y El matrimonio es la huelga de tres. SU OUT! |
| 11:57.45 | tj13820 | just some advice for you KoC |
| 11:58.22 | tj13820 | There are 4 bases in baseball. In love, a proposal is a strike, a toast is strike two, and Marriage is strike three. YOUR OUT! |
| 11:58.59 | Manu | tj13820: your spanish is a bit "no sense" ;) |
| 11:59.08 | tj13820 | really? |
| 11:59.16 | tj13820 | hm |
| 11:59.29 | tj13820 | i think it's my punctuation |
| 11:59.30 | Manu | only the first sentence is ok |
| 11:59.43 | whodaman | lol |
| 11:59.49 | spldart | I'd even be more 'no sense' My exposure to spanish is what one gets from south texas. |
| 12:00.06 | Manu | :) |
| 12:00.44 | spldart | It's funny to listen to what many speak here.. Commonly reffered to as TexMex. |
| 12:01.04 | tj13820 | No creo que es mi conjugaciones. |
| 12:01.14 | tj13820 | ... |
| 12:01.17 | spldart | No excuses :-p |
| 12:02.05 | Manu | tj13820: strike is wrongly translaged to spanish :-p |
| 12:02.18 | tj13820 | yes |
| 12:02.22 | tj13820 | i see that |
| 12:02.24 | tj13820 | lol |
| 12:02.32 | Manu | translated* |
| 12:02.43 | tj13820 | reason: It is 8 o'clock |
| 12:02.51 | tj13820 | i slept 2 hours :-) |
| 12:03.05 | spldart | :-P |
| 12:03.33 | spldart | A little more sleep sounds like a good idea to me. |
| 12:04.11 | tj13820 | Dies ist ohnehin einfacher. |
| 12:04.19 | spldart | woah |
| 12:04.26 | tj13820 | yes? |
| 12:04.33 | spldart | Now we are speaking german? |
| 12:04.40 | tj13820 | i like to switch it up |
| 12:04.43 | spldart | ic |
| 12:04.47 | tj13820 | Latin next? |
| 12:04.57 | spldart | heh |
| 12:04.58 | tj13820 | :-) |
| 12:05.09 | spldart | How about something slavik |
| 12:05.15 | tj13820 | hm |
| 12:05.27 | spldart | ooOOoo Japanese |
| 12:05.30 | tj13820 | i don't know if i know that |
| 12:05.31 | spldart | Moshi |
| 12:05.35 | tj13820 | haha |
| 12:05.41 | Manu | tj13820: how about something bzflag related? ;) |
| 12:05.49 | tj13820 | ;-) |
| 12:05.54 | spldart | Speak -conf |
| 12:05.57 | tj13820 | keepin the Chat alive |
| 12:06.28 | tj13820 | Manu -conf /home/tim/BZFlag/configs/easygoin.conf |
| 12:06.30 | tj13820 | :-) |
| 12:07.03 | Manu | heh |
| 12:07.03 | spldart | /home/is/where/the/bzflag/is.conf |
| 12:07.09 | tj13820 | lol |
| 12:07.21 | tj13820 | /home/is/where/the/.bzw/is.conf |
| 12:07.26 | spldart | I need to do some slight repairs to my map |
| 12:07.28 | tj13820 | (.bzw is hidden) |
| 12:07.43 | spldart | I know linux ;) |
| 12:07.47 | tj13820 | hah |
| 12:07.58 | tj13820 | that's goin on my site |
| 12:08.27 | Manu | ~/bzf/2.0/annoying.conf |
| 12:08.38 | tj13820 | ? |
| 12:08.50 | spldart | Also need to update my 2.99 bzfs's |
| 12:08.58 | Manu | an annoying bzflag config file :-p |
| 12:09.03 | tj13820 | /home/Manu/bzf/annoying.conf |
| 12:09.05 | tj13820 | lol |
| 12:09.27 | Manu | tj13820: file not found.. my account is not Manu ;) |
| 12:09.34 | tj13820 | rm -R / |
| 12:09.38 | tj13820 | :-) |
| 12:09.41 | tj13820 | try that one |
| 12:09.44 | spldart | As root? |
| 12:09.49 | tj13820 | sure XD |
| 12:09.53 | tj13820 | (don't do it) |
| 12:09.55 | spldart | naughty |
| 12:09.55 | Manu | tj13820: it says nothing |
| 12:10.09 | Manu | I did it as root :/ |
| 12:10.10 | tj13820 | Manu: it will erase all of your files if ran in terminal |
| 12:10.17 | Manu | tj13820: really? |
| 12:10.21 | tj13820 | Manu: yes |
| 12:10.38 | Manu | stops taunting tj13820 |
| 12:10.49 | tj13820 | Manu: that's the only way to get rid of a virus in linux (HAH) |
| 12:11.13 | Manu | virus? what's a virus? |
| 12:11.18 | spldart | Linux? Virus? |
| 12:11.27 | tj13820 | when i hear of a windows computer with a virus... i point and laugh like Nelson |
| 12:11.37 | tj13820 | and then i install Linux |
| 12:11.38 | tj13820 | :-) |
| 12:11.55 | spldart | Linux has a goauld symbeot. It cannot get sick. And can heal from almost anything |
| 12:12.19 | tj13820 | no, it just doesn't have Bill Gates seal of disproval |
| 12:12.31 | tj13820 | so it's invulnerable to anything M$ related |
| 12:12.39 | tj13820 | (other than Wine ran software) |
| 12:12.48 | spldart | Don't forget DosBox |
| 12:12.56 | spldart | I use that alot too |
| 12:13.03 | tj13820 | i'm going to be (hopefully the first) to try and get a virus from wine |
| 12:13.05 | tj13820 | lol |
| 12:13.16 | tj13820 | Dos is 8 or 16 bit |
| 12:13.29 | tj13820 | most viruses are 32 |
| 12:13.44 | tj13820 | even a 64 bit os with backwards compatibility turned off is safe for the most part |
| 12:13.51 | spldart | Maybe the virus is in compatibility mode :-p |
| 12:13.55 | tj13820 | ... |
| 12:14.01 | spldart | LOL |
| 12:14.06 | tj13820 | see above^ |
| 12:14.23 | spldart | I see great goofines |
| 12:14.28 | tj13820 | i prefer to run in TTY. |
| 12:14.34 | tj13820 | i can't SEE the virus |
| 12:14.41 | tj13820 | so therefor it does not exist :-P |
| 12:14.52 | spldart | There is no spoon |
| 12:14.58 | tj13820 | ? |
| 12:15.11 | spldart | OMGz!!11!!!1 |
| 12:15.12 | tj13820 | trying to bend one with your mind? |
| 12:15.14 | spldart | Matrix |
| 12:15.27 | spldart | We are spamming.. time to settle down. |
| 12:15.48 | tj13820 | lol |
| 12:16.13 | tj13820 | oh, hello to the other 69 people whom i did not know were here :-) |
| 12:16.27 | Manu | spldart: spamming is too short ;) |
| 12:17.03 | spldart | starts singing to himself some Too Short |
| 12:17.39 | tj13820 | Smacks some common muscal knowledge into spldart |
| 12:17.50 | tj13820 | listen to classical ya bum |
| 12:18.03 | spldart | Tacata in Fugue? |
| 12:18.09 | spldart | <sp> |
| 12:18.11 | tj13820 | Bethoven's fifth |
| 12:18.37 | tj13820 | MIdnight Rhapsody |
| 12:18.47 | spldart | icky |
| 12:18.53 | tj13820 | ... |
| 12:19.07 | tj13820 | i play piano tyvm. and the classics are not "Icky" |
| 12:20.08 | spldart | Icky icky icky ptang zoop boing |
| 12:20.44 | tj13820 | ...are you watching batman? |
| 12:21.17 | spldart | .........That's Monty Python.... Quest for the Holy Grail...................... |
| 12:21.56 | tj13820 | We are the nights who say "B - Z" |
| 12:23.03 | spldart | And we want a.... Tank! |
| 12:23.16 | spldart | To park next to the shrubbery |
| 12:23.59 | tj13820 | hah |
| 12:24.13 | spldart | hits the snooze button |
| 13:03.15 | tj13820 | when i compile BZFS i get an error upon using "checkinstall" |
| 13:03.59 | tj13820 | it doesn't even attempt to try anything. it just says Error 1 and some other stuff |
| 13:05.35 | tj13820 | nvm |
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| 14:20.10 | Quol | waves |
| 14:22.44 | whodaman | hey QuantumTim |
| 14:22.45 | whodaman | err |
| 14:22.47 | whodaman | Quol |
| 14:23.01 | Quol | lol - hey whodaman...how are ya? |
| 14:23.01 | ibot | Quol: you know how it is... |
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| 14:40.05 | whodaman | ... |
| 14:40.11 | whodaman | Quol, fine fine, how about you? |
| 14:47.43 | Quol | ya - I am ok....busy - working today :( |
| 14:48.06 | Quol | re-creating an exchange 2003 cluster - moving it to a new HP SAN |
| 14:51.49 | whodaman | fun |
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| 16:28.43 | KTL | whoever is interested, i've put some old bzflag maps online, temporarily at http://users.pandora.be/dpf/bz/, with thumbnails. |
| 16:34.18 | Epyon | KTL, who has sysop at bzflag wiki? |
| 16:34.46 | Winny | donny_baker, Jeff I believe |
| 16:34.58 | Winny | more, but I don't recall |
| 16:36.03 | KTL | Epyon, no idea, /me is not involved enough |
| 16:36.22 | Thumper_ | ~bzflist |
| 16:36.33 | Winny | I'm winning! |
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| 16:39.14 | tj13820 | is there a "better bzadmin"? |
| 16:39.44 | Epyon | tj13820, in-dev i thing |
| 16:39.48 | Epyon | i think* |
| 16:39.54 | tj13820 | would you happen to know the link? |
| 16:41.44 | Winny | no "better" BZAdmin I know of |
| 16:42.35 | tj13820 | i mean, something that i can use to talk to admins only, team mates only, and individual players |
| 16:43.15 | Manu | Epyon: hi :) |
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| 16:44.27 | Thumper_ | tj13820: you can do that now with the existing bzadmin |
| 16:44.51 | Epyon | Manu :/ :) |
| 16:45.11 | Manu | Epyon: how do you do? ;) |
| 16:48.37 | spldart | OOPSY |
| 16:48.44 | F687s | I...guess I should plug that cable back in then... |
| 16:49.28 | Falseprophet | They're the sucky ones anyways |
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| 16:49.29 | spldart | EPYON! How goes it? :) |
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| 16:51.27 | Epyon | To be honest not bad, because it can't get much worse xP |
| 16:53.15 | spldart | I have to ask. What have you got goin on GSoC? which incidentily has started btw |
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| 16:55.11 | tj13820 | welcome back |
| 16:55.12 | Winny | yay we're back |
| 16:55.13 | tj13820 | :-) |
| 16:55.17 | Winny | tj13820: We left |
| 16:55.19 | Winny | not them |
| 16:55.21 | tj13820 | haha |
| 16:55.26 | F687s | We had a party |
| 16:55.26 | tj13820 | to us, they left |
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| 16:56.17 | blast007 | meh |
| 16:56.26 | blast007 | there goes the services again |
| 16:56.31 | tj13820 | now how would i get to send messages to admins, team, and indiv. users? |
| 16:56.45 | Winny | lol |
| 16:56.56 | blast007 | tj13820: if you have a curses build of BZAdmin, it should show "Send to all:" in the bottom left of the window |
| 16:57.07 | blast007 | you can use the left and right arrow keys to select who to speak to |
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| 16:57.20 | blast007 | including individual players, admins, and teammates |
| 16:57.22 | tj13820 | i don't have that |
| 16:57.31 | whodaman- | ... |
| 16:57.35 | whodaman- | Jeez |
| 16:57.50 | blast007 | ~lart *@Services. |
| 16:57.50 | ibot | eats *@Services. and falls over dead |
| 16:57.53 | tj13820 | it said "No curses" when compiling |
| 16:58.04 | blast007 | tj13820: then install ncurses |
| 16:58.13 | blast007 | the dev package |
| 16:58.32 | tj13820 | okay |
| 16:58.34 | tj13820 | ty |
| 16:59.03 | blast007 | np |
| 16:59.17 | blast007 | you'll also get a menu system in the curses bzadmin |
| 16:59.30 | blast007 | triggered with F2. It'll have a player list, message filter, and server variables |
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| 17:01.10 | tj13820 | now do i install the libncurses5-dev? |
| 17:01.12 | tj13820 | that |
| 17:01.31 | tj13820 | that's all i see other than libncursesw5.dev |
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| 17:01.59 | blast007 | lol |
| 17:02.19 | spldart | Noisy isn't it |
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| 17:02.26 | Thumper_ | chanserv spam... |
| 17:03.03 | whodaman- | this is fnu |
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| 17:03.05 | spldart | geeez |
| 17:03.06 | spldart | right/ |
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| 17:03.07 | whodaman- | ... |
| 17:03.08 | spldart | ? |
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| 17:03.11 | whodaman- | ..... |
| 17:03.12 | whodaman- | SportChick: DO SOMETHING |
| 17:03.13 | spldart | yeah |
| 17:03.13 | whodaman- | I wait |
| 17:03.13 | whodaman- | -.- |
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| 17:03.15 | Thumper_ | she left |
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| 17:04.05 | spldart | wow |
| 17:04.05 | whodaman- | gah |
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| 17:04.08 | whodaman- | SportChick, help!!! |
| 17:04.08 | spldart | ans stuff |
| 17:04.08 | spldart | O |
| 17:04.08 | spldart | M |
| 17:04.08 | spldart | G |
| 17:06.11 | Winny | throws nicks at chanserv |
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| 17:06.33 | tj13820 | thunderstorm eh |
| 17:07.29 | Winny | fun stuff |
| 17:08.09 | Winny | SportChick, fix it :P |
| 17:09.42 | Winny | spicy couscous is spicy. |
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| 17:10.53 | Epyon | Interesting... |
| 17:11.06 | Winny | ~glue ChanServ |
| 17:12.09 | Winny | ooh, newest blender open movie is out! |
| 17:15.20 | Epyon | Any plugin specialists around? |
| 17:15.53 | whodaman- | waits for Constitution to come around the corner |
| 17:16.16 | think_tank | if it's the kind you put in your bathroom and it gives off a pleasant fragrance i can help |
| 17:16.28 | Winny | hehe |
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| 17:18.22 | spldart | sniff sniff.. Yep.. That bathroom needs it. |
| 17:18.29 | whodaman- | TMI |
| 17:18.39 | spldart | Or someone could light a match |
| 17:18.50 | think_tank | couldn't that ignite the vapors? :) |
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| 17:19.07 | spldart | They say many die in their bathrooms |
| 17:19.22 | whodaman- | points to #bathroomTalk |
| 17:19.50 | spldart | ah now |
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| 17:22.27 | tj13820 | i can't find ncurses in Synaptic.\ |
| 17:22.54 | Winny | isn't it ncurses-dev or something like that? |
| 17:23.47 | tj13820 | in hardy, it says "selecting libncurses5-dev instead of ncurses" |
| 17:23.57 | tj13820 | so i assume this is the same |
| 17:24.02 | spldart | what distro? |
| 17:24.10 | tj13820 | hardy ubuntu |
| 17:24.14 | spldart | yeah deb would be libncurses5-dev |
| 17:24.20 | tj13820 | k |
| 17:24.39 | tj13820 | now bzadmin should have that nifty curses window correct? |
| 17:24.45 | spldart | colors and all |
| 17:24.49 | spldart | it should |
| 17:24.53 | tj13820 | and i get it how? |
| 17:25.01 | tj13820 | -us stdboth |
| 17:25.03 | tj13820 | -ui* |
| 17:25.07 | spldart | I'm an apt-get person myself |
| 17:25.15 | spldart | or build it myself |
| 17:25.24 | spldart | don't know how synaptic changes things |
| 17:25.25 | tj13820 | i used apt-get, but checked it in synaptic first :-) |
| 17:26.22 | spldart | used apt-get? so it's installed? |
| 17:26.31 | blast007 | make sure to run ./configure again first |
| 17:26.32 | tj13820 | yes |
| 17:26.36 | tj13820 | ahh |
| 17:26.36 | tj13820 | okay |
| 17:26.37 | spldart | I'd 'apt-get install package |
| 17:26.46 | tj13820 | so i have to reconfigure my whole package |
| 17:26.47 | tj13820 | :-( |
| 17:26.50 | blast007 | that will detect that you have ncurses this time |
| 17:27.00 | spldart | and yeah.. ./configure should report that ncurses is avail at the end |
| 17:27.31 | spldart | He has to rebuild too right? |
| 17:27.37 | tj13820 | what is the code for SVN? |
| 17:27.41 | blast007 | well, just 'make' again |
| 17:27.45 | blast007 | ~bz20svn |
| 17:27.46 | ibot | hmm... bz20svn is http://my.bzflag.org/w/BZFlag_SVN and svn co https://bzflag.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/bzflag/branches/v2_0branch/bzflag |
| 17:27.46 | spldart | right |
| 17:28.26 | tj13820 | may as well get the newest version :-) |
| 17:30.29 | tj13820 | ./configure --enable plugins --enable shared |
| 17:30.32 | tj13820 | correct? |
| 17:32.09 | spldart | yeah. if you want to serve with plugins |
| 17:32.22 | spldart | --enable-shared |
| 17:32.27 | spldart | --enable-plugins |
| 17:32.34 | spldart | don't forget the little middle - |
| 17:32.34 | tj13820 | okay |
| 17:32.39 | tj13820 | yup |
| 17:33.18 | blast007 | --enable-shared should be all that is required for 2.0.x |
| 17:33.27 | spldart | Really? |
| 17:33.31 | blast007 | and on trunk, I think it automatically builds the plugins if the system is capable |
| 17:34.25 | tj13820 | better safe then sorry :-) |
| 17:34.35 | spldart | 700 gig on this desktop and I just ran out of space :( |
| 17:34.40 | Winny | wow |
| 17:34.41 | Thumper_ | --enable-plugins is not required in 2.0.x (and doesn't do anything that I'm aware of) |
| 17:34.43 | Winny | torrent much? |
| 17:34.58 | spldart | I believe you are correct blast.. trunk just builds if it can |
| 17:35.02 | spldart | plugins |
| 17:35.37 | spldart | torrents on this machine? Nah! But A/V editing? YES |
| 17:35.39 | spldart | ;-) |
| 17:36.39 | tj13820 | ERROR: Unable to locate GNU Libtool. |
| 17:36.47 | tj13820 | when i tried ./autogen.sh |
| 17:37.11 | spldart | autoconf |
| 17:37.11 | spldart | automake |
| 17:37.11 | spldart | libtool |
| 17:37.11 | spldart | libncurses5-dev |
| 17:37.11 | spldart | libsdl1.2-dev |
| 17:37.12 | spldart | libcurl3-openssl-dev |
| 17:37.14 | spldart | subversion |
| 17:37.16 | spldart | g++ |
| 17:37.18 | spldart | make |
| 17:37.20 | spldart | Those are your needs for linux build |
| 17:37.24 | tj13820 | ah, thats for mac :-P |
| 17:37.27 | spldart | Sry guys... it was a list in a notepad |
| 17:37.30 | tj13820 | i'm not on my mac, am i |
| 17:38.26 | spldart | More specifically those are deb etch necessities as of a month ago... your versions may vary |
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| 17:55.56 | Epyon_ | DTRemenak, ping |
| 17:56.53 | Epyon_ | eGetWorldEvent is broken |
| 18:01.54 | Winny | hmm |
| 18:01.59 | Winny | I'm trying to think of a cool plugin |
| 18:02.06 | Winny | something that emails you reports? |
| 18:03.20 | tj13820 | stats plugin |
| 18:03.32 | tj13820 | sends stats to a mysql database on your website |
| 18:03.51 | Winny | hmm, not bad |
| 18:03.54 | tj13820 | so you can display them with a PHP script |
| 18:04.01 | tj13820 | pretty it up with CSS |
| 18:04.10 | tj13820 | and it's fully integrated into a website |
| 18:04.44 | tj13820 | :-) |
| 18:04.57 | Winny | shall give it a shot |
| 18:04.59 | tj13820 | that'd be cool. I'd put it in an inline frame |
| 18:05.08 | tj13820 | on my BZFlag page |
| 18:05.22 | tj13820 | (that is soon to be uploaded) |
| 18:10.55 | CIA-33 | BZFlag: 03chaos-dev * r17339 10/trunk/bzwgen/ (5 files in 3 dirs): |
| 18:10.55 | CIA-33 | BZFlag: * moved the main application class to separate files |
| 18:10.55 | CIA-33 | BZFlag: * removed another global |
| 18:10.55 | CIA-33 | BZFlag: * tried to find a workaround the bugged eGetWorldEvent |
| 18:12.14 | blast007 | Epyon_: what's wrong with the eGetWorldEvent? |
| 18:15.22 | Epyon_ | It rereads the world each time a client disconnects O.o |
| 18:15.47 | Epyon_ | Maybe if there is a way to unregister the event right after generation? |
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| 18:26.51 | Winny | What are those huge vaccum trucks called? |
| 18:27.02 | Winny | they're used to suck up dirt to put in gas lines and stuff |
| 18:27.42 | CIA-33 | BZFlag: 03chaos-dev * r17340 10/trunk/bzwgen/ (19 files in 2 dirs): |
| 18:27.42 | CIA-33 | BZFlag: * cleaned up unneccesary includes |
| 18:27.42 | CIA-33 | BZFlag: * all system includes moved to globals.h |
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| 19:22.21 | JeffM | DTRemenak, how did mass effect run? |
| 19:26.08 | DTRemenak | JeffM: runs fine, everything turned all the way up. does do the "loading" thing every once in a while though |
| 19:26.16 | DTRemenak | like if I sprint back through a zone I've already been through |
| 19:26.44 | Epyon_ | DTRemenak, either eGetWorldEvent is broken, or I don't know how to use it |
| 19:26.57 | DTRemenak | Epyon_: yeah, I saw the note in the backlog |
| 19:26.58 | Epyon_ | It calls the event when a user signs out |
| 19:27.10 | DTRemenak | when the last player signs out, perhaps? |
| 19:27.15 | CIA-33 | BZFlag: 03bryjen * r17342 10/trunk/bzwgen/inc/BZWGenerator.h: newline at end of file |
| 19:27.23 | Epyon_ | Well the only one :P |
| 19:27.24 | L4m3r | under some circumstances I think it does regenerate the map when everyone leaves |
| 19:27.48 | Epyon_ | However it doesn't work anyway :P |
| 19:27.49 | L4m3r | I know that with a random map, if you alter _worldSize it will regenerate the map at least :P |
| 19:27.52 | DTRemenak | yeah. it rebuilds the map when the last player leaves...that's expected. does it cause a problem? |
| 19:28.13 | CIA-33 | BZFlag: 03bryjen * r17343 10/trunk/bzwgen/inc/Output.h: init in same order as declared to make gcc happy |
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| 19:28.33 | Epyon_ | Well, I would categorize that as a very "unexpected behaviour" :P |
| 19:28.47 | DTRemenak | pretty sure the manual says it does that ;) |
| 19:29.33 | DTRemenak | it's possible that it's broken for plugins though, if it's not working right for you |
| 19:29.47 | DTRemenak | what kind of issue does it cause? |
| 19:30.46 | tj13820 | how do i pipe the output of BZAdmin to a text file? |
| 19:31.02 | tj13820 | would bzadmin | "/home/tim/BZFlag/log.txt" work? |
| 19:32.20 | Epyon_ | I'll contact you later DTR, and we'll fix it :) |
| 19:32.31 | Mets | use > |
| 19:32.32 | DTRemenak | ok... |
| 19:32.48 | tj13820 | so bzadmin >> "/home/tim/BZFlag/log.txt" |
| 19:33.08 | Epyon_ | BTW, DTRemenak, do you have admin on the wiki? |
| 19:33.20 | DTRemenak | I do. need something unprotected? |
| 19:33.37 | Epyon_ | Nope, just a link to BZWGen revisited article |
| 19:33.44 | DTRemenak | ok |
| 19:33.53 | Epyon_ | I'll be expanding on it soon, but currently it's orphaned :P |
| 19:34.17 | blast007 | tj13820: you also want to force bzadmin into stdout mode probably |
| 19:34.40 | tj13820 | yup |
| 19:34.58 | tj13820 | bzadmin -ui sdtout >> "path? |
| 19:35.00 | tj13820 | "* |
| 19:35.12 | DTRemenak | stdout (or stdboth) |
| 19:35.26 | tj13820 | whcih is preferable? |
| 19:35.42 | blast007 | probably stdout, if you're just wanting to log |
| 19:35.50 | blast007 | you won't see the output anyway |
| 19:36.12 | blast007 | and just a note that bzadmin has been known to go into infinite loops if a server crashes, for instance |
| 19:36.14 | DTRemenak | Epyon_: there you go |
| 19:36.32 | tj13820 | haha |
| 19:36.38 | tj13820 | so i have to restart |
| 19:36.41 | tj13820 | and kill the PID |
| 19:36.53 | blast007 | I think a Ctrl+C will kill it |
| 19:37.01 | L4m3r | another fun one is |
| 19:37.01 | blast007 | but I'm not sure |
| 19:37.07 | blast007 | I've had it happen a couple times |
| 19:37.22 | blast007 | noticed that my load average was at 1.00 instead of the usual 0.00 ;) |
| 19:37.51 | L4m3r | echo "Driveby! \n/quit" | bzadmin -ui stdin blah@server.com:5154 |
| 19:38.46 | tj13820 | why the "echo "Driveby! \n/quit" ? |
| 19:38.55 | L4m3r | that gets piped into bzadmin |
| 19:38.59 | blast007 | it'll send "Driveby!" in chat and then quit |
| 19:39.13 | tj13820 | ah |
| 19:39.16 | Flash | is there a norang admin about? |
| 19:39.21 | Thumper_ | yup |
| 19:39.58 | L4m3r | I actually use that in my trunk daily build script to notify anyone who might be playing on my server before it restarts :P |
| 19:40.35 | tj13820 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:40.40 | tj13820 | is the script i use now |
| 19:42.16 | L4m3r | you might want to ditch that and use the logDetail plugin instead |
| 19:43.17 | L4m3r | less prone to crashing and looping to death :P |
| 19:43.50 | tj13820 | where do i get that? |
| 19:44.10 | L4m3r | it's in the source distribution. what OS are you using? |
| 19:44.17 | tj13820 | linux, ubuntu |
| 19:44.22 | tj13820 | from SVN |
| 19:44.25 | L4m3r | ok |
| 19:44.31 | bryjen | bzwgen doesn't link here. i get messages about undefined refs to API functions |
| 19:44.31 | L4m3r | you need to build with plugin support |
| 19:44.38 | tj13820 | done |
| 19:44.45 | tj13820 | --enable-plugins |
| 19:44.48 | tj13820 | --enable-shared |
| 19:44.50 | L4m3r | then yeah, it should be in the source tree already |
| 19:45.07 | tj13820 | and all i do is use -loadplugin "logDetail" now? |
| 19:45.18 | L4m3r | yeah |
| 19:45.21 | tj13820 | and what are the settings? |
| 19:45.29 | L4m3r | there are none |
| 19:45.34 | L4m3r | it feeds the data to stdout |
| 19:45.44 | tj13820 | how does it output data to a file |
| 19:45.52 | L4m3r | the same way you do with bzadmin |
| 19:46.05 | L4m3r | bzfs -conf "myconf.conf" >> log.txt |
| 19:46.06 | tj13820 | but i still need to be connected to the server don't i? |
| 19:46.13 | tj13820 | ahh |
| 19:46.18 | tj13820 | i see |
| 19:46.19 | L4m3r | nope, that's why it's nicer than bzadmin :) |
| 19:46.26 | tj13820 | very much |
| 19:46.38 | CIA-33 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * r17344 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx: get rid of cleanPendingPlayers (all 4 lines of it), since it's not really named what it does, refactor it a bit and move it back into the main loop with appropriate comment. |
| 19:46.44 | tj13820 | so how do i load the plugin from the normal directory |
| 19:47.12 | L4m3r | you know, I'm not sure |
| 19:47.33 | tj13820 | lol |
| 19:47.35 | L4m3r | you might be able to get away with just -loadplugin logDetail.so if you used make install |
| 19:47.42 | tj13820 | ahh |
| 19:47.47 | L4m3r | I usually just put all of my plugins in a folder somewhere |
| 19:47.49 | tj13820 | what about /loadplugin in the client? |
| 19:48.08 | L4m3r | dunno. you have to restart the server anyway to do the logging :P |
| 19:48.12 | tj13820 | failed |
| 19:48.14 | tj13820 | :-( |
| 19:48.16 | tj13820 | that's why |
| 19:48.16 | blast007 | otherwise, it's probably in /usr/local/lib/ |
| 19:48.27 | blast007 | (if you did a make install) |
| 19:48.53 | blast007 | if you didn't install, it will be under plugins/logDetail/.libs/logDetail.so iirc |
| 19:49.08 | tj13820 | i did a make install |
| 19:49.13 | blast007 | k |
| 19:49.33 | blast007 | ls /usr/local/lib/*.so |
| 19:50.09 | tj13820 | yup |
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| 19:57.43 | tj13820 | how do i make "batch files" for ubuntu? to launch the servers |
| 19:57.54 | tj13820 | sh scripts or launchers? |
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| 20:09.47 | tj13820 | ? |
| 20:10.01 | blast007 | make a new file |
| 20:10.23 | blast007 | and start it with: #!/bin/sh |
| 20:10.31 | blast007 | (or whatever shell you want it to run with) |
| 20:10.36 | tj13820 | okay, that's what i needed to know |
| 20:10.36 | blast007 | and then add the commands after that |
| 20:10.39 | tj13820 | will bash work |
| 20:10.42 | blast007 | yeah |
| 20:10.47 | tj13820 | #!/bin/bash |
| 20:11.40 | blast007 | you'll want to chmod u+x the file as well so that you can execute it directly |
| 20:12.12 | tj13820 | already done, thank you :-) |
| 20:13.18 | tj13820 | it opens the bash then exits |
| 20:13.21 | tj13820 | real quick |
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| 20:14.46 | blast007 | run it from a terminal |
| 20:14.57 | blast007 | and see what it gives as an error (if any) |
| 20:15.01 | tj13820 | you click it, and select run in terminal |
| 20:15.07 | tj13820 | and it just exits |
| 20:15.15 | blast007 | open a terminal manually and run it in there |
| 20:18.08 | tj13820 | it kindof just hangs. |
| 20:18.12 | tj13820 | it's hard to describe. |
| 20:18.58 | blast007 | what are you running in the script? bzadmin? |
| 20:19.20 | tj13820 | #!/bin/bash |
| 20:19.20 | tj13820 | bzfs -conf "/home/tim/DrRobotnik/conf.conf" >> "/home/tim/BZFlag/DrRobotnik/log.txt" |
| 20:19.25 | tj13820 | that's the code |
| 20:19.29 | Mets | one > |
| 20:19.36 | tj13820 | no, two of them append |
| 20:19.45 | tj13820 | instead of overwriting |
| 20:19.57 | Mets | why append a blank file |
| 20:20.13 | tj13820 | why overwrite a half full one? |
| 20:20.19 | tj13820 | i have some logs |
| 20:20.24 | tj13820 | from the old method |
| 20:20.43 | Mets | I'd just make a new log with todays date |
| 20:20.48 | tj13820 | okay |
| 20:20.53 | tj13820 | but it still needs to append |
| 20:20.55 | blast007 | Mets: I just keep one huge log for my servers |
| 20:20.57 | tj13820 | for restart |
| 20:21.02 | blast007 | easier to grep throught :P |
| 20:21.08 | Mets | blast007: that's probably the best way, true |
| 20:21.12 | tj13820 | i'm not restarting logs everytime i restart |
| 20:21.27 | tj13820 | talk about a PITA |
| 20:21.36 | tj13820 | but that is the correct code right? |
| 20:21.40 | blast007 | yeah |
| 20:21.45 | tj13820 | hm |
| 20:21.53 | blast007 | does the server run? |
| 20:22.01 | blast007 | cuz that script won't terminate |
| 20:22.11 | blast007 | it will keep running until bzfs stops running |
| 20:22.38 | tj13820 | correct |
| 20:22.41 | tj13820 | that's how i want it |
| 20:22.46 | tj13820 | to always log |
| 20:22.51 | tj13820 | until the server is down |
| 20:23.36 | tj13820 | but it still won't load a server |
| 20:24.43 | blast007 | you verified that it's not running? |
| 20:24.46 | blast007 | ps aux | grep bzfs |
| 20:24.58 | tj13820 | ps aux? |
| 20:25.01 | tj13820 | what does that do |
| 20:25.13 | tj13820 | oh btw, i'm using the logDetail plugin |
| 20:26.07 | blast007 | ps is for listing processes |
| 20:26.49 | tj13820 | /home/tim/Desktop/Dr.sh: line 2: /home/tim/BZFlag/DrRobotnik/log.txt: Permission denied |
| 20:26.58 | tj13820 | just use sudo |
| 20:27.01 | tj13820 | right> |
| 20:27.03 | tj13820 | ?* |
| 20:27.06 | blast007 | uh, no |
| 20:27.09 | blast007 | fix the permissions |
| 20:27.13 | tj13820 | modify perms |
| 20:27.24 | blast007 | you shouldn't run the server with root perms ;) |
| 20:27.35 | Mets | hehe |
| 20:27.40 | blast007 | are you running under the user 'tim' ? |
| 20:27.58 | tj13820 | yes |
| 20:28.41 | blast007 | then modify the owner/group of the directories in there so that you can work with stuff |
| 20:29.01 | blast007 | either /home/tim/BZFlag/ or /home/tim/BZFlag/DrRobotnik/ is blocking you from writing to it |
| 20:29.12 | blast007 | might be a chmod issue, or an ownership issue |
| 20:29.29 | tj13820 | what do i chmod the log file to? |
| 20:29.34 | tj13820 | 755? |
| 20:29.41 | blast007 | does it even exist? |
| 20:29.47 | tj13820 | yes |
| 20:29.54 | blast007 | ideally you should be able to chmod it to 700 and have it work |
| 20:29.59 | tj13820 | okay |
| 20:30.00 | blast007 | that way nobody else can read it |
| 20:30.04 | blast007 | only the owner |
| 20:30.22 | blast007 | an 'ls -l' will list the owner and the group that are assigned to files and directories |
| 20:30.50 | tj13820 | -rw-rw-rw- 1 tim tim 1 2008-05-31 16:27 log.txt |
| 20:30.50 | tj13820 | -rw-rw-rw- 1 tim tim 11071 2008-05-31 16:26 log.txt~ |
| 20:31.53 | tj13820 | it's fixed |
| 20:31.54 | tj13820 | so far |
| 20:32.13 | tj13820 | good |
| 20:32.18 | tj13820 | it's logging to the file |
| 20:32.28 | tj13820 | it doesn't show the server startup stuff in the terminal |
| 20:33.19 | tj13820 | but. it doesn't log anything. |
| 20:33.21 | tj13820 | sorry |
| 20:33.38 | tj13820 | oh i see why |
| 20:34.48 | tj13820 | thank you all |
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| 20:37.05 | Flash | DTRemenak: does your last change fix anything or is it just cleanup? |
| 20:37.56 | Mets | yes, peopleburg beta 2 opens tomorrow |
| 20:38.06 | Mets | oups, that's #bzchat wrong window |
| 20:38.11 | tj13820 | does "title "Plaza" " set the title of a terminal from a .sh script? |
| 20:38.16 | Mets | retreats |
| 20:38.17 | blast007 | tj13820: if you want to see output as well as log to a file, you can use: |
| 20:38.24 | blast007 | bzfs -conf "/home/tim/DrRobotnik/conf.conf" | tee -a /home/tim/BZFlag/DrRobotnik/log.txt |
| 20:38.45 | tj13820 | i'm using >> /path to log |
| 20:38.49 | tj13820 | it logs the output also |
| 20:38.52 | tj13820 | and appends it |
| 20:39.51 | blast007 | tee displays it to the terminal as well, and the -a option means it appends |
| 20:40.06 | blast007 | so the only difference is that you could see what is happening right on the terminal |
| 20:40.19 | tj13820 | oh |
| 20:40.22 | tj13820 | i like that |
| 20:40.24 | tj13820 | :-) |
| 20:41.07 | tj13820 | how do i set a title in the terminal throught my sh script? |
| 20:41.15 | tj13820 | so i don't confuse the 4 of them |
| 20:43.58 | blast007 | no idea |
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| 20:44.51 | Flash | tj13820: that's window-system dependent |
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| 20:45.26 | tj13820 | hm |
| 20:47.46 | Flash | what OS/window system are you using? |
| 20:48.03 | tj13820 | ubuntu |
| 20:48.13 | Flash | and? |
| 20:48.20 | tj13820 | bash / gnome |
| 20:48.32 | Flash | so look in the gnome documentation |
| 20:49.11 | Flash | http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/6948 maybe |
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| 20:51.08 | Flash | or better http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-448614.html |
| 21:01.08 | Tupone | echo -ne "\033]0;Message\007" |
| 21:02.22 | Tupone | you have to modify $PROMPT_COMMAND to avoid title being rewritten |
| 21:02.46 | DTRemenak | Flash: just cleanup |
| 21:03.21 | Flash | ok, thanks |
| 21:26.32 | CIA-33 | BZFlag: 03jwmelto * r17345 10/branches/v2_99_net_branch/src/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Move NetHandler to net, even though it still has some game aspects to it |
| 21:54.05 | AAA_awright | Developers: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1980929&group_id=3248&atid=303248 patch for trunk |
| 21:54.19 | AAA_awright | Nothing specia;l |
| 21:55.59 | Flash | my very first patch was to remove /ghost in 2.0.6 (I think); why is it still here? |
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