| 00:00.07 | me1 | "yes" isn't a person :P |
| 00:00.17 | me1 | ok |
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| 00:20.11 | blast007 | me1: yup, basic settings |
| 00:20.26 | blast007 | it points to the map, bzfs, and bzflag |
| 00:20.42 | blast007 | launches bzfs with the map, and launchs the client to auto-connect to the server |
| 00:20.53 | me1 | cool |
| 00:21.07 | blast007 | and shows the output of bzfs on the application itself |
| 00:21.12 | me1 | by basic settings, you mean like +f, +c, -j, etc.? |
| 00:21.20 | me1 | neat. |
| 00:21.47 | me1 | or just world file/conf? |
| 00:27.21 | blast007 | me1: doesn't support flags (yet) |
| 00:27.34 | me1 | ok |
| 00:27.45 | blast007 | but it creates a hard-coded group file that gives all users elevated rights, since it's just for local testing |
| 00:27.55 | blast007 | so that when you get joined, you can run stuff like /set |
| 00:27.59 | me1 | cool |
| 00:28.09 | blast007 | works pretty slick |
| 00:28.27 | blast007 | even stores the last bzfs/bzflag binary you used in the registry, iirc |
| 00:28.48 | blast007 | the source for it is in SVN if anyone wants to improve it |
| 00:29.00 | blast007 | under /trunk/bzflag/tools/ |
| 00:30.00 | blast007 | it was build with Visual C# 2003 |
| 00:30.12 | blast007 | haven't tried with a newer version |
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| 00:34.13 | TD-Linux | wow I fail at bzflag |
| 00:34.37 | TD-Linux | I mostly fixed my jerkiness by enabling vsync, also limiting framerate to 60fps |
| 00:34.52 | TD-Linux | so I can run amarok at the same time now :) |
| 00:35.07 | spldart | heh |
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| 01:05.02 | me1 | is there any reason bzflag stays in a window in "fullscreen" mode on ubuntu linux 8.10 and BZFlag client 2.0.10.20071212-MAINT-linux-gnu-SDL (protocol 0026) |
| 01:16.09 | blast007 | me1: try running from a termainal like this: bzflag -geometry default |
| 01:16.32 | me1 | nope |
| 01:16.35 | me1 | still happens |
| 01:16.38 | awilcox | me1: what desktop env. do you use? |
| 01:16.44 | me1 | gnome |
| 01:16.57 | awilcox | hm, not aware of any incompatibilities with that one. |
| 01:17.04 | me1 | v2.22.1 if that matters |
| 01:17.05 | blast007 | me1: with compiz turned on? |
| 01:17.19 | blast007 | (the cool window effects) |
| 01:17.24 | me1 | yeah |
| 01:17.31 | me1 | forgets how to turn it off |
| 01:17.37 | blast007 | yeah, search for forums for 'compiz' |
| 01:17.45 | blast007 | there was a recent topic about that exact issue |
| 01:17.49 | me1 | oh |
| 01:18.04 | blast007 | basically, you might just have issues with playing games with that turned on |
| 01:18.08 | blast007 | is it an ATI card? |
| 01:18.28 | me1 | geforce 6200 |
| 01:18.31 | me1 | iirc |
| 01:18.32 | blast007 | k |
| 01:18.38 | blast007 | so I guess they just broke it in general ;) |
| 01:18.44 | blast007 | other guy had an ATI |
| 01:19.34 | blast007 | me1: http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=12571&highlight=compiz |
| 01:19.46 | me1 | found it already ;) |
| 01:21.27 | blast007 | me1: if it's still glitchy with that change listed there, let me know ;) |
| 01:21.34 | blast007 | then I'll wait to upgrade my 7.10 machine |
| 01:21.53 | blast007 | works fine with Compiz turned on on Ubuntu 7.10 |
| 01:21.54 | me1 | heh |
| 01:22.00 | me1 | r teh noob. |
| 01:22.09 | me1 | where would the compizconfig thingy be? |
| 01:22.21 | blast007 | try typing that in a terminal |
| 01:22.42 | blast007 | otherwise, it might be something under a gnome menu |
| 01:23.36 | blast007 | I haven't heard many great things about 8.10 |
| 01:28.37 | me1 | meh, I'm being forced off the computer. I'll see if I can fix it tomorrow. |
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| 01:40.58 | spldart | meh |
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| 15:28.47 | L4m3r | what'd I miss? o_O |
| 15:30.31 | blast007 | L4m3r: not much here |
| 15:53.50 | AlexanderLAW | hey there |
| 15:54.48 | blast007 | hi |
| 15:54.54 | AlexanderLAW | it looks like it's not chat channel, but silence channel |
| 15:54.58 | blast007 | :) |
| 15:55.08 | JeffM2501 | it's a development channel |
| 15:55.13 | JeffM2501 | #bzchat is the chat channel |
| 15:55.17 | AlexanderLAW | can i break the silence? |
| 15:55.40 | DTRemenak | ya already did ;) |
| 15:56.01 | AlexanderLAW | i didnt intend to |
| 15:56.04 | blast007 | hehe |
| 15:56.46 | AlexanderLAW | i found some bugs related to processing world file names |
| 15:57.05 | AlexanderLAW | i mean world files placed locally |
| 15:57.21 | DTRemenak | in trunk? |
| 15:57.24 | AlexanderLAW | yes |
| 15:57.28 | DTRemenak | cool |
| 15:57.40 | DTRemenak | find fixes too? :) |
| 15:57.45 | AlexanderLAW | yes, i did |
| 15:57.51 | DTRemenak | sweet! |
| 15:58.01 | DTRemenak | I like this converstation already |
| 15:58.26 | JeffM2501 | cool submit patches |
| 15:58.44 | AlexanderLAW | but one of them is almost workaround so i need to understand whether i choose right way |
| 15:59.18 | AlexanderLAW | first, i must admit i'm using Windows |
| 15:59.21 | JeffM2501 | so? |
| 15:59.36 | AlexanderLAW | and .bzw files stored in my profile |
| 15:59.41 | JeffM2501 | so? |
| 15:59.54 | JeffM2501 | the location of the file on any OS should not matter |
| 15:59.57 | DTRemenak | we support both of those, so that doesn't seem to be a problem :) |
| 15:59.59 | AlexanderLAW | and my profile directory contains spaces |
| 16:00.08 | JeffM2501 | again that should not matter |
| 16:00.10 | DTRemenak | also supported |
| 16:00.19 | AlexanderLAW | not exactly |
| 16:00.21 | JeffM2501 | trunk even supports remote profiles |
| 16:00.30 | JeffM2501 | what isn't suporting spaces? |
| 16:00.36 | DTRemenak | just 'cause it's supported doesn't mean it works ;) |
| 16:01.12 | AlexanderLAW | when you run your bzfs you pass it parameters like that bzfs - world c:\documents and settings\Administrator\.... |
| 16:01.20 | JeffM2501 | needs to be in quotes |
| 16:01.23 | JeffM2501 | then it does spaces |
| 16:01.24 | AlexanderLAW | yes |
| 16:01.44 | JeffM2501 | but that should work fine, is it not? |
| 16:01.47 | AlexanderLAW | but it's not in quotes |
| 16:01.55 | JeffM2501 | then put it in quotes |
| 16:02.04 | AlexanderLAW | i fixed this and ready to put a patch |
| 16:02.10 | JeffM2501 | fixed what? |
| 16:02.16 | AlexanderLAW | fixed source |
| 16:02.17 | DTRemenak | lack of quotes |
| 16:02.21 | JeffM2501 | for what? |
| 16:02.25 | JeffM2501 | the in game server start? |
| 16:02.28 | AlexanderLAW | for adding auotes |
| 16:02.34 | DTRemenak | that would be what he's talking about |
| 16:02.35 | AlexanderLAW | in ServerStartMenu |
| 16:02.37 | JeffM2501 | ohh |
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| 16:02.47 | JeffM2501 | you didn't say that ;) |
| 16:02.52 | JeffM2501 | that menu is getting removed |
| 16:02.53 | AlexanderLAW | method scanWorldFiles |
| 16:02.59 | JeffM2501 | and being replaced with an external tool |
| 16:03.13 | AlexanderLAW | wow, i'm a little late |
| 16:03.16 | DTRemenak | for 3.0? |
| 16:03.28 | JeffM2501 | DTRemenak, yeah I beilve that was the plan |
| 16:03.31 | DTRemenak | k |
| 16:03.32 | AlexanderLAW | i am trying to use 2.99 |
| 16:03.34 | JeffM2501 | blasts tool does at least as much as it |
| 16:03.41 | JeffM2501 | AlexanderLAW, that's going to be 3.0 |
| 16:03.52 | AlexanderLAW | i downloaded source from SVN a couple of weeks ago |
| 16:03.58 | JeffM2501 | we have an external C# tool that starts servers |
| 16:04.01 | JeffM2501 | it does a LOT more |
| 16:04.03 | AlexanderLAW | now i'm updatiing it |
| 16:04.06 | DTRemenak | mmm, you are the fellow with the unicode patch too, right? |
| 16:04.23 | JeffM2501 | AlexanderLAW, it'll still be there we haven't pulled it yet, we just have plans to do so |
| 16:04.47 | AlexanderLAW | yes, i'm one from these non-ANSI speaking people |
| 16:04.51 | JeffM2501 | goes and pulls it cus he's bored |
| 16:05.03 | JeffM2501 | that must be a big patch to replace all the strings |
| 16:05.10 | AlexanderLAW | no |
| 16:05.13 | blast007 | JeffM2501: my tool is not really designed for that at this point |
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| 16:05.26 | JeffM2501 | blast007, well then it should get updated ;) |
| 16:05.31 | blast007 | ;) |
| 16:05.36 | AlexanderLAW | i uploaded the patch, that doesnt require to replace strings |
| 16:05.37 | JeffM2501 | it starts servers, so that's something |
| 16:05.46 | JeffM2501 | AlexanderLAW, then how does it support unicode? |
| 16:05.54 | AlexanderLAW | and I already did .po, it works |
| 16:06.02 | JeffM2501 | can you store them in std::strings? |
| 16:06.08 | AlexanderLAW | i just used UTF-8 strings in .po |
| 16:06.19 | JeffM2501 | I do not know what .po is? |
| 16:06.27 | DTRemenak | localization template |
| 16:06.30 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
| 16:06.31 | AlexanderLAW | it's a l10n file |
| 16:06.43 | JeffM2501 | so it dosn't support unicode chat for instance? |
| 16:06.48 | JeffM2501 | just translations |
| 16:06.49 | AlexanderLAW | and I converted utf-8 to Unicode when it comes to output |
| 16:07.12 | AlexanderLAW | yes, chat is not supported yet |
| 16:07.16 | DTRemenak | JeffM2501: utf-8 is intentionally backwards compatible |
| 16:07.23 | AlexanderLAW | yes |
| 16:07.24 | JeffM2501 | cool |
| 16:07.28 | DTRemenak | so it can be stored in 8-bit char strings |
| 16:07.29 | AlexanderLAW | so it's working |
| 16:07.33 | JeffM2501 | I do not know how it all works, that's why I'm asking questions. |
| 16:07.45 | AlexanderLAW | i have complete russian UI |
| 16:07.48 | DTRemenak | it's all feasible; I haven't reviewed the patch yet |
| 16:08.01 | AlexanderLAW | and it's all in my patch |
| 16:08.05 | DTRemenak | kinda thought brlcad would do it :) |
| 16:08.30 | AlexanderLAW | regarding chat I think it can be implemented later |
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| 16:10.22 | AlexanderLAW | and i want to get back to problem with world filenames |
| 16:10.32 | AlexanderLAW | if you dont mind |
| 16:11.05 | AlexanderLAW | or if you still here |
| 16:12.00 | DTRemenak | is going to work |
| 16:12.11 | JeffM2501 | wow, you' |
| 16:12.12 | AlexanderLAW | seems, one of the conditions is not met |
| 16:12.15 | JeffM2501 | ll be almost on time :) |
| 16:12.19 | DTRemenak | hah |
| 16:12.26 | JeffM2501 | I'm here already |
| 16:12.34 | DTRemenak | yeah, I noticed. surprised ;) |
| 16:12.42 | AlexanderLAW | thank you |
| 16:12.50 | JeffM2501 | I couldnt' sleep anymore |
| 16:12.57 | JeffM2501 | AlexanderLAW, huh? |
| 16:13.21 | AlexanderLAW | as i said, i'm unfortunately using Widows |
| 16:13.28 | AlexanderLAW | Windows i mean |
| 16:13.37 | AlexanderLAW | it's almost the same, you know |
| 16:13.40 | blast007 | windows is our primary user base |
| 16:14.02 | JeffM2501 | yeah don't appolgoise for what you choose to use |
| 16:14.08 | DTRemenak | all three developers you are speaking to right now run windows also |
| 16:14.12 | DTRemenak | so it's cool, really :P |
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| 16:14.29 | AlexanderLAW | and my working directory name contains My Documents (as your too) |
| 16:14.32 | L4m3r | JeffM2501: at least you got to sleep :| |
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| 16:14.34 | JeffM2501 | I'd actualy be less likly to care if it was nix or OSX ;) |
| 16:14.36 | L4m3r | lab reports suck |
| 16:14.53 | AlexanderLAW | but "My documents" in russian |
| 16:15.11 | JeffM2501 | AlexanderLAW, can you just get to the part where you say what code dosn't like the folder path? |
| 16:15.14 | AlexanderLAW | maybe you already hate russains |
| 16:15.20 | AlexanderLAW | russians |
| 16:15.21 | JeffM2501 | we hate noone |
| 16:15.24 | AlexanderLAW | sorry |
| 16:15.32 | JeffM2501 | our code is old, we try to make it better |
| 16:15.45 | JeffM2501 | if you can help us identify problem areas we get can get it fixed |
| 16:16.12 | AlexanderLAW | well, the problem is not in your code |
| 16:16.20 | JeffM2501 | a polish user helped us find issues where the client had problems with non ASCII folders. |
| 16:16.27 | AlexanderLAW | it's in STL std::ifstream code |
| 16:16.53 | JeffM2501 | is there anything we can do to work around it? |
| 16:16.59 | AlexanderLAW | when you pass it filename, the filename is in ANSI |
| 16:17.01 | AlexanderLAW | yes |
| 16:17.07 | JeffM2501 | what can we do? |
| 16:17.11 | JeffM2501 | set the locale? |
| 16:17.17 | AlexanderLAW | the problem described there http://www.experts-exchange.com/Microsoft/Development/.NET/Visual_CPP/Q_23140283.html |
| 16:17.24 | JeffM2501 | what is the fix |
| 16:17.28 | JeffM2501 | that's all I care about |
| 16:17.46 | AlexanderLAW | but these solutions are not very good in my (and probably your) case |
| 16:17.54 | JeffM2501 | and it is.........? |
| 16:18.03 | JeffM2501 | lets get to the meat |
| 16:18.34 | AlexanderLAW | sorry, i'm not english speaking, so i can't quickly get to meat |
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| 16:18.53 | JeffM2501 | I know the language issue you have, you don't have to explain everything |
| 16:18.54 | Darklustxx | hullo |
| 16:18.56 | JeffM2501 | what is the change |
| 16:19.35 | AlexanderLAW | i lost the place in code, wait a second, please |
| 16:19.44 | JeffM2501 | no prob |
| 16:21.24 | AlexanderLAW | in the BZWReader constructor we have input = new std::ifstream(filename.c_str(), std::ios::in); |
| 16:21.33 | JeffM2501 | k |
| 16:21.50 | AlexanderLAW | the problem is that filename not converted to OEM or Unicode |
| 16:22.12 | JeffM2501 | and how do we convert it? |
| 16:22.57 | AlexanderLAW | if it's feasible to paste it there, i do it |
| 16:22.58 | AlexanderLAW | std::wstring ConvertToWideString(const std::string& string) |
| 16:22.58 | AlexanderLAW | { |
| 16:22.58 | AlexanderLAW | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:22.58 | AlexanderLAW | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:22.58 | AlexanderLAW | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:23.00 | AlexanderLAW | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:23.02 | AlexanderLAW | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:23.24 | AlexanderLAW | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:23.24 | AlexanderLAW | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:23.24 | AlexanderLAW | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:23.24 | L4m3r | pastebin |
| 16:23.24 | AlexanderLAW | } |
| 16:23.24 | blast007 | ~bzpastebin |
| 16:23.25 | ibot | i heard bzpastebin is http://pastebin.bzflag.bz or a place to put large chunks of text so as not to flood a channel |
| 16:23.25 | L4m3r | seriously |
| 16:23.25 | AlexanderLAW | ok |
| 16:23.25 | JeffM2501 | pastebin.bzflag.bz please |
| 16:23.35 | blast007 | stupid bot... |
| 16:23.38 | JeffM2501 | Lukstr, you here? you should be paying attiention to this |
| 16:25.59 | JeffM2501 | is MultiByteToWideChar a windows call? |
| 16:26.06 | AlexanderLAW | sorry for flood, you will not see it from me |
| 16:26.08 | AlexanderLAW | http://pastebin.bzflag.bz/m6a1796db |
| 16:26.12 | AlexanderLAW | yes |
| 16:26.21 | AlexanderLAW | and thats the question |
| 16:26.21 | JeffM2501 | does this need to be done on other OSs? |
| 16:26.32 | AlexanderLAW | how it will work on other OSes |
| 16:26.36 | JeffM2501 | it won't |
| 16:26.42 | JeffM2501 | is wstring a windows only construct? |
| 16:26.45 | AlexanderLAW | at the moment I don;t know |
| 16:27.02 | JeffM2501 | brlcad, you awake? |
| 16:27.38 | AlexanderLAW | maybe it should be included in #ifdef _WIN32 |
| 16:27.45 | JeffM2501 | perhaps |
| 16:28.23 | AlexanderLAW | at least it helped me to solve my problem, so it's working solution |
| 16:28.29 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 16:29.01 | AlexanderLAW | but how it should be incorporated in the code, i didn't know |
| 16:29.18 | JeffM2501 | I'm almost done with that part |
| 16:29.31 | AlexanderLAW | thats why i didnt submit a patch |
| 16:30.39 | JeffM2501 | it's cool, you've helped in finding the problem :) |
| 16:31.27 | AlexanderLAW | thank you, i'm on your side |
| 16:34.49 | JeffM2501 | hugs CIA-33 |
| 16:34.49 | CIA-33 | hugs JeffM2501 |
| 16:34.57 | JeffM2501 | stilly bot |
| 16:35.04 | JeffM2501 | get latest code, it should be fixed now |
| 16:35.21 | JeffM2501 | I'd like a nixie to try it too |
| 16:35.40 | JeffM2501 | we may need a _HAS_wstring in the config |
| 16:40.07 | BulletCatcher | It looks like std::wstring *is* available on Linux, so no #ifdef should be needed for it. |
| 16:40.55 | AlexanderLAW | but maybe this issue is not raised there |
| 16:41.17 | JeffM2501 | if it's not a BulletCatcher I am adding a better way to do it |
| 16:41.21 | JeffM2501 | with a config.h flag |
| 16:41.24 | JeffM2501 | that's the proper way |
| 16:41.30 | JeffM2501 | HAVE_STD__WSTRING |
| 16:41.42 | AlexanderLAW | it's Microsoft implementation of std::ifstream that doesnt convert filename right |
| 16:42.37 | JeffM2501 | BulletCatcher, does EVERY nix/mac/irix/solaris compiler have it? |
| 16:42.52 | JeffM2501 | do they have it if they have std::string ? |
| 16:43.03 | BulletCatcher | I haven't tested them *all* yet! :-) |
| 16:43.10 | blast007 | hehe |
| 16:43.12 | JeffM2501 | AlexanderLAW, the conversion is only done for windows, other OSs just pass the name thru. |
| 16:43.28 | JeffM2501 | BulletCatcher, well I figured that ;) but do you know if it's part of the standard? |
| 16:44.06 | blast007 | weee, it's been a while since I've updated trunk on my linux system.. |
| 16:44.18 | BulletCatcher | No, I don't know how standard it is. I can't find a man page for it, but g++ seems happy with it. |
| 16:44.51 | JeffM2501 | then it should be added to the defualt config.h in autogen |
| 16:44.56 | AlexanderLAW | i think we can avoid wstring at all |
| 16:44.58 | JeffM2501 | or whatever |
| 16:45.10 | AlexanderLAW | we just have to get wchar_t |
| 16:45.14 | JeffM2501 | AlexanderLAW, if it's the right thing to do, then that's fine |
| 16:45.20 | JeffM2501 | we can config for it |
| 16:45.25 | AlexanderLAW | and pass it to ifstream |
| 16:45.27 | JeffM2501 | I just don't do autogen changes |
| 16:45.28 | JeffM2501 | someone |
| 16:45.35 | JeffM2501 | someone else can :) |
| 16:45.37 | BulletCatcher | Yes. There should be no harm in using the configuration system for this. |
| 16:45.55 | JeffM2501 | that's what it is FOR ;) |
| 16:46.02 | BulletCatcher | :-) |
| 16:46.37 | JeffM2501 | mourns CIA-33 :( |
| 16:46.48 | blast007 | kills CIA-33 |
| 16:46.49 | CIA-33 | dies |
| 16:46.56 | JeffM2501 | yeah but it ain't reporting |
| 16:47.00 | JeffM2501 | I've commted 4 things |
| 16:47.02 | JeffM2501 | 3 things |
| 16:47.07 | JeffM2501 | it's set to use the config now |
| 16:47.32 | BulletCatcher | Good, 'cause IRIX c++ doesn't have it. |
| 16:47.41 | JeffM2501 | I figured one of em wouldn't ;) |
| 16:47.58 | BulletCatcher | ~JeffM2501++ |
| 16:48.25 | blast007 | JeffM2501: the bot is working fine. The commits just aren't getting to the cia.vc site ;) |
| 16:48.36 | blast007 | last one there is from Tuesday |
| 16:48.37 | JeffM2501 | suk |
| 16:49.01 | JeffM2501 | BulletCatcher, well someone has to update the makefiles and configs |
| 16:49.02 | blast007 | weee, fun, I'm getting the freetype build issues on linux :) |
| 16:49.04 | JeffM2501 | that ain't my bag |
| 16:49.13 | spldart | hehehe |
| 16:49.27 | BulletCatcher | I'm looking... |
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| 16:54.16 | BulletCatcher | Arg. I have to leave for work now, but it should be something like adding AC_CHECK_TYPES(wstring) to configure.ac. I'll get it tonight if someone else doesn't do it sooner. |
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| 17:00.53 | delusional | it seems that commit emails have died as well, is that connected to the death of CIA-33? |
| 17:02.06 | JeffM2501 | our script probably died |
| 17:02.37 | blast007 | the #commits channel is silent |
| 17:03.05 | blast007 | heh, tried to go to the cia.vc homepage: "An internal server error occurred. Please try again later." |
| 17:06.25 | JeffM2501 | it may be sf |
| 17:06.37 | blast007 | no, the cia.vc site is not working |
| 17:06.49 | JeffM2501 | well commit mail dosn't go thru CIA ether |
| 17:06.53 | JeffM2501 | maybe sf kiilled CIA |
| 17:06.57 | blast007 | heh |
| 17:07.26 | delusional | CSI sourceforge. |
| 17:09.25 | spldart | heh |
| 17:10.01 | JeffM2501 | blast007, is your server start tool part of our source tree? |
| 17:13.29 | Erroneous | JeffM2501: tools/BZWTestLauncher |
| 17:13.37 | JeffM2501 | that'd be a yes then :) |
| 17:13.48 | JeffM2501 | need to add it to the installer |
| 17:14.41 | JeffM2501 | hmm should I upgrade it to VC# 8? |
| 17:14.46 | Erroneous | no |
| 17:15.06 | JeffM2501 | :( |
| 17:15.21 | Erroneous | that'll break things if someone tries to edit it in 8. .NET 1.1 to 2.0 is a rather abrupt transition. |
| 17:15.37 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
| 17:17.14 | blast007 | do we want to make it more generic and have it BZFSLauncher? ;) |
| 17:17.26 | blast007 | have it be* |
| 17:17.45 | JeffM2501 | that'd be nice |
| 17:19.29 | Erroneous | egads, one giant class... |
| 17:21.12 | Erroneous | mm, you do the i/o redirection though. cool. |
| 17:23.49 | blast007 | yeah, didn't want it to launch a command prompt for that ;) |
| 17:26.03 | blast007 | hehe, guess I'll need to do a bit of changes to get it to compile via mono |
| 17:26.12 | blast007 | I used the namespace "Windows" apparently |
| 17:26.41 | Erroneous | should be fine. just make sure the mono-swf stuff is installed. |
| 17:27.23 | Erroneous | or mwf I guess :) |
| 17:27.50 | blast007 | k |
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| 17:28.51 | Erroneous | trunk/winforms in mono's svn. not sure how it's packaged elsewhere. |
| 17:29.24 | blast007 | using Microsoft.Win32; <--- that one might not work :P |
| 17:29.55 | blast007 | yeah, can't find anything with 'mwf' |
| 17:30.44 | blast007 | ah, found winforms |
| 17:30.58 | Erroneous | yeah, the microsoft namespace is probably a no-go ;) |
| 17:31.09 | Erroneous | registry functions or something? |
| 17:31.24 | blast007 | yup |
| 17:31.32 | blast007 | I'll have to use a config file instead |
| 17:31.44 | Erroneous | should use one anyway |
| 17:31.50 | blast007 | is there a nice way to find a spot to store a config file? |
| 17:31.56 | Erroneous | the proper .NET configuration system is through System.Configuration |
| 17:31.59 | Erroneous | all XMLy |
| 17:32.18 | Erroneous | quite easy to use and very flexible |
| 17:33.17 | blast007 | if there supposed to be a winform library for 1.1, or is 1.0 the one I want? |
| 17:33.30 | Erroneous | takes a bit to grok the first time through though. MS decided to use its own terminology for everything :S |
| 17:33.46 | Erroneous | mmm, 1.0 should work fine |
| 17:33.52 | blast007 | I have libmono-winforms1.0-cli and libmono-winforms2.0-cli |
| 17:34.01 | blast007 | sorry, cil* |
| 17:34.03 | Erroneous | yeah, 1.0 should be good |
| 17:34.08 | blast007 | k |
| 17:34.11 | blast007 | didn't work though :) |
| 17:34.30 | Erroneous | what specifically does it complain about |
| 17:34.49 | blast007 | "The type or namespace `Windows' does not exist in the namespace `System'. Are you missing an assembly reference?" |
| 17:36.04 | Erroneous | hm, that's wierd. if winforms is installed it should be good...you have the references in place. |
| 17:36.28 | blast007 | installs the 2.0 one just for the hellofit |
| 17:37.01 | blast007 | nope.. |
| 17:38.15 | Erroneous | and you are just running "mono bzwtestlauncher.exe" right? |
| 17:38.22 | blast007 | I'm trying to compile it |
| 17:38.26 | Erroneous | with what? |
| 17:38.34 | blast007 | mcs |
| 17:38.47 | blast007 | 'mcs frmMain.cs' |
| 17:39.17 | Erroneous | you have no references then |
| 17:39.28 | Erroneous | you need to reference the external assemblies |
| 17:40.14 | Erroneous | try -rSystem.Windows.Forms |
| 17:40.17 | Erroneous | and -rSystem.Drawing |
| 17:40.40 | Erroneous | thinks the rest are in the default compiler configuration |
| 17:41.32 | Erroneous | but in all honesty it's easier to just run the executable with mono, assuming it's compiled to CLR bytecode. |
| 17:41.45 | blast007 | ooo, it compiled |
| 17:41.55 | blast007 | I had to add -r System.Data too |
| 17:42.21 | blast007 | and it runs :) |
| 17:42.36 | blast007 | that's awesome |
| 17:42.41 | Erroneous | isn't it? :) |
| 17:43.00 | blast007 | wonder how the registry part is working... :/ |
| 17:43.11 | blast007 | does it maybe just emulate that to a file? |
| 17:43.25 | Erroneous | it's possible |
| 17:43.35 | blast007 | guess I'll see if it remembers the path to the binaries after I relaunch |
| 17:43.38 | Erroneous | winforms does emulate some stuff in other namespaces iirc |
| 17:47.14 | blast007 | woo, it pretty much works |
| 17:47.32 | blast007 | launched bzfs and the client |
| 17:48.01 | Erroneous | wow |
| 17:48.03 | Erroneous | cool |
| 17:48.26 | Erroneous | wasn't quite sure whether all the process stuff would work against native executables |
| 17:48.47 | blast007 | need to adjust the Browse dialogs to not use bzflag.exe/bzfs.exe as the filter |
| 17:48.52 | Erroneous | heh |
| 17:49.11 | blast007 | and it did recall the paths |
| 17:49.16 | blast007 | so it emulates the registry |
| 17:49.27 | Erroneous | probably should rewrite that stuff anyway |
| 17:49.34 | blast007 | ;) |
| 17:50.49 | Erroneous | has some other ideas too, but doesn't want to cause svn conflicts :) |
| 17:53.26 | blast007 | I added a monobuild.sh |
| 17:56.47 | blast007 | hmm, the file browsing isn't working |
| 17:57.38 | blast007 | ah, nvm |
| 17:57.46 | blast007 | was using the filter *.* |
| 17:57.55 | blast007 | there's no . in the linux binary :P |
| 17:58.03 | Erroneous | :) |
| 18:00.01 | JeffM2501 | who's going to rename it? |
| 18:03.26 | blast007 | JeffM2501: I will, in a bit here |
| 18:03.30 | JeffM2501 | k |
| 18:03.35 | blast007 | commiting a change to fix the file browsing |
| 18:03.37 | Erroneous | does his best to cause conflicts :) |
| 18:03.43 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 18:04.12 | blast007 | hehe |
| 18:04.16 | blast007 | it merged ;) |
| 18:04.45 | Erroneous | aw nuts! |
| 18:04.50 | Erroneous | ;) |
| 18:04.54 | JeffM2501 | I've got the installer setup for it, I just need the final names |
| 18:05.05 | blast007 | Erroneous: well, I only changed two lines ;) |
| 18:05.06 | JeffM2501 | and sans CIA it inda sucks! |
| 18:05.20 | blast007 | waits while the script on SF times out |
| 18:05.28 | Erroneous | hm, bzfs crashes when I run it :) |
| 18:05.38 | blast007 | hmm |
| 18:05.46 | blast007 | I was using 2.0.8 bzfs ;) |
| 18:06.03 | blast007 | since I can't get 2.99.x to build right now with the freetype issue |
| 18:06.03 | Erroneous | bzfs shouldn't crash in any case |
| 18:07.46 | Erroneous | removes a few stale plugins |
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| 18:18.04 | blast007 | Erroneous: you doing anything else to BZWTestLauncher at the moment? |
| 18:18.11 | Erroneous | hehe |
| 18:18.24 | blast007 | I'll take that as a yes? |
| 18:18.25 | Erroneous | "might be doing something" :) |
| 18:18.33 | Erroneous | you're welcome to do whatever you need to |
| 18:18.36 | blast007 | good, then I'll go and rename the directory ;) |
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| 18:18.46 | Erroneous | will make a backup first :) |
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| 18:20.03 | blast007 | so do we want it called BZFSLauncher? |
| 18:21.11 | JeffM2501 | BZFServerMombo! |
| 18:21.28 | JeffM2501 | tho BZFSSetup may be better |
| 18:22.03 | blast007 | GoGoGadgetLANParty |
| 18:22.27 | blast007 | oh fun, my build on linux is dying in src/date/ ? |
| 18:24.35 | blast007 | http://pastebin.bzflag.bz/dbc7a01b |
| 18:24.42 | blast007 | I see wchar_t in there ;) |
| 18:24.58 | ruskie | blast007, auto* stuff wasn't yet updated ;) |
| 18:25.01 | ruskie | afaik |
| 18:25.15 | ruskie | [18:51:56] <BulletCatcher> Arg. I have to leave for work now, but it should be something like adding AC_CHECK_TYPES(wstring) to configure.ac. I'll get it tonight if someone else doesn't do it sooner. |
| 18:25.41 | blast007 | JeffM2501: didn't you ifdef it out? |
| 18:26.19 | ruskie | blast007, afaik he added some config.h stuff so that it is handeld be configure tools |
| 18:26.26 | blast007 | right |
| 18:26.33 | blast007 | so it shouldn't even try until it has that define |
| 18:27.03 | blast007 | #define HAVE_STD__WSTRING 1 |
| 18:27.13 | blast007 | from the VC config |
| 18:29.33 | blast007 | ah, okay, that is why... it's redefining wstring to string if that def doesn't exist |
| 18:29.44 | blast007 | but I do have wstring on linux apparently, so it's conflicting |
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| 19:19.06 | whodaman- | can structures only be passed to functions by reference? in C? |
| 19:20.42 | JeffM2501 | whodaman-, refrences don't exist in C |
| 19:20.48 | JeffM2501 | usualy you do by address |
| 19:21.40 | JeffM2501 | blast007, rerun autogen IIRC dtr added the config checks for it |
| 19:22.04 | JeffM2501 | whodaman-, what are you trying to do? |
| 19:22.20 | whodaman- | JeffM2501, a friend of mine was just wondering that, thanks. |
| 19:22.35 | JeffM2501 | passing large things in by value is generaly bad |
| 19:22.42 | JeffM2501 | const address is good in C |
| 19:22.48 | whodaman- | ok, thank you |
| 19:22.48 | JeffM2501 | and const ref is good in C++ |
| 19:22.51 | blast007 | JeffM2501: I did |
| 19:23.01 | JeffM2501 | blast007, then yell at Erroneous ;) |
| 19:23.03 | blast007 | I have no addition changes in there that I see |
| 19:25.03 | JeffM2501 | yeah dosn't look like he commited |
| 19:25.11 | JeffM2501 | so yeah it needs to be added |
| 19:25.26 | JeffM2501 | take that liunux build, turnabout is fair play ;) |
| 19:26.18 | JeffM2501 | did you change the name of the server luancher? |
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| 19:39.02 | donny | blast007: will that start a public server? checking for a friend ;) |
| 19:41.35 | JeffM2501 | if it dosn't add support for it |
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| 19:50.17 | JeffM2501 | bored now.... |
| 19:52.12 | spldart | HEH |
| 19:52.26 | spldart | Work not keeping yah busy? |
| 19:52.35 | JeffM2501 | I finished all my bugs and stuff |
| 19:52.37 | Erroneous | he finished all his bugs |
| 19:52.46 | spldart | oh |
| 19:52.52 | JeffM2501 | I've even trolled ones from others |
| 19:53.02 | spldart | :-) |
| 19:53.25 | JeffM2501 | the rest is stuff they have to do since it'd take me longer to ask how to do it then it would for them to do it |
| 19:53.44 | JeffM2501 | hell I even made up a feature to add, it just need to be approved. |
| 19:54.16 | JeffM2501 | if I could remote to the laptop I'd be writing |
| 19:54.36 | JeffM2501 | wonders what the HTTPD pluin needs |
| 19:55.02 | spldart | hates doin purity adjustments and alignments on 40" HDTVs |
| 19:55.18 | JeffM2501 | ehy? |
| 19:55.20 | JeffM2501 | why? |
| 19:55.39 | spldart | Lots of black magic work for little pay when it's a warranty |
| 19:56.40 | Erroneous | aw, blast007 didn't rename the thing yet |
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| 19:58.31 | Erroneous | checks in some changes and wonders if it breaks it on linux :) |
| 19:59.55 | spldart | Checkouts are still getting all the latest commits correct? It's only the reporting of the commits that are not occuring? |
| 20:00.13 | JeffM2501 | spldart, yes the code is going into svn as far as we know |
| 20:00.19 | spldart | ic |
| 20:00.28 | JeffM2501 | they realy need to fix that before SoC starts |
| 20:00.56 | spldart | How long till SoC? beginning of next month? |
| 20:01.05 | JeffM2501 | end of this IIRC |
| 20:01.32 | JeffM2501 | May 28: Students begin coding for their GSoC projects; Google begins issuing initial student payments |
| 20:01.59 | spldart | Yah know.. I haven't noticed bugQ making himself confortable in here much |
| 20:02.34 | Erroneous | the last few weeks are finalisy for much of the world |
| 20:02.43 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 20:02.46 | spldart | Ah yeah |
| 20:02.47 | JeffM2501 | all of them have been gone |
| 20:02.51 | JeffM2501 | that's somewhat normal |
| 20:03.08 | JeffM2501 | macsforme should be done today |
| 20:03.12 | spldart | I know better.. brain fart |
| 20:11.43 | Lukstr | JeffM2501: ehh, what'd I miss? :P |
| 20:12.03 | JeffM2501 | just a bug in the bzwreader ;) |
| 20:12.20 | Lukstr | aha |
| 20:12.38 | JeffM2501 | localised paths to the input stream |
| 20:13.10 | Lukstr | my client is being bizarre, it notified me of the ping, but set my reading bar far below the ping,a nd I couldn't find it :P |
| 20:13.40 | JeffM2501 | it was a long while ago |
| 20:13.49 | Lukstr | I figured as much |
| 20:13.56 | Lukstr | so all's well with this bug? |
| 20:14.19 | JeffM2501 | I added a conversion function to textuilts that turns it into a localised wstring on windows |
| 20:14.26 | JeffM2501 | nix may need some code for it |
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| 20:16.55 | Lukstr | argh, wstrings |
| 20:16.58 | Lukstr | the bane of my existance |
| 20:17.02 | JeffM2501 | why? |
| 20:17.10 | Lukstr | no, I love them and all, don't get me wrong |
| 20:17.33 | Lukstr | I just worked with international software previously, involved a lot of incredibly weird wstring crap |
| 20:17.53 | JeffM2501 | well our goal would be to suport any language in game |
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| 20:19.16 | Lukstr | yeah |
| 20:19.46 | Lukstr | I mostly blame my distress on annoying german software we had to use |
| 20:21.20 | Lukstr | and microsoft. |
| 20:21.39 | Lukstr | but yeah, multi-lingual support ++ |
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| 20:56.29 | JeffM2501 | hey blast007 or HTML people, wha'ts usualy used to define template items in template systems? $ or [$ or something? |
| 21:01.16 | a_meteorite | it depends on the engine |
| 21:01.26 | JeffM2501 | I am making the engine |
| 21:01.40 | a_meteorite | ah |
| 21:02.06 | a_meteorite | I like $ |
| 21:02.13 | a_meteorite | easy because I come from PHP world |
| 21:02.32 | JeffM2501 | <p>Page generated by webReport in [[Page_Time]] seconds</p> |
| 21:02.50 | JeffM2501 | so you'd do <p>Page generated by webReport in $Page_Time seconds</p> |
| 21:02.51 | JeffM2501 | ? |
| 21:03.01 | JeffM2501 | what if you want to print a $? |
| 21:03.19 | a_meteorite | for a templating system, you'd need something more unique |
| 21:03.29 | awilcox | JeffM2501: you'd do $$ |
| 21:03.32 | awilcox | or \$ |
| 21:03.36 | a_meteorite | right |
| 21:03.37 | JeffM2501 | eww |
| 21:03.48 | awilcox | escaping characters _are_ eww, but you have to pick SOMETHING. |
| 21:03.51 | Winny | JeffM2501: for wordpress they make you open a PHP tag: <?php echo $var; ?> |
| 21:03.59 | awilcox | well how about !@#$%^Fieldname <- that should never be used... |
| 21:04.00 | JeffM2501 | I 'm not in php |
| 21:04.04 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 21:04.12 | JeffM2501 | I'll be in C++ |
| 21:04.15 | a_meteorite | make your own unicode entity :) |
| 21:04.29 | awilcox | dives in C# |
| 21:04.32 | a_meteorite | that *should* never be used ;) |
| 21:04.43 | Winny | if it's not already defined as a variable print it? |
| 21:04.56 | JeffM2501 | that is not a bad idea |
| 21:05.01 | JeffM2501 | very good Winny |
| 21:05.20 | Winny | \o/ |
| 21:05.26 | a_meteorite | that works, but make sure you have a verbose mode so you can see "undefined" variables |
| 21:05.51 | awilcox | Or have $ on both sides of the var name. $Page_Time$ |
| 21:05.56 | a_meteorite | heh |
| 21:06.06 | a_meteorite | what Winny suggested sounds reasonable |
| 21:06.26 | awilcox | But how does one define a variable? |
| 21:06.27 | SportChick | JeffM2501 or Erroneous: got time for a quick windows question? |
| 21:06.34 | JeffM2501 | SportChick, sure |
| 21:07.02 | SportChick | JeffM2501: is there a way to write a script or something to launch two quick programs in succession (in windows)? |
| 21:07.13 | JeffM2501 | SportChick, sure, batch file |
| 21:07.16 | awilcox | SportChick: batch file |
| 21:07.24 | SportChick | JeffM2501: how do I do that? :) |
| 21:07.33 | JeffM2501 | you have shortcuts to the programs right now? |
| 21:07.38 | SportChick | yes |
| 21:07.46 | JeffM2501 | right click one |
| 21:07.58 | SportChick | the first one I want to launch or? |
| 21:08.11 | JeffM2501 | right click the shortcut and go to properties |
| 21:08.13 | JeffM2501 | to get the target line |
| 21:08.13 | awilcox | open Notepad, put the paths to the apps in on separate lines, and then save as "leetscript.bat" :) |
| 21:08.23 | JeffM2501 | and paste that into a new text file |
| 21:08.24 | whodaman- | hugs SportChick |
| 21:08.40 | JeffM2501 | awilcox, will that not wait for one to finish before doing the second? |
| 21:08.57 | awilcox | JeffM2501: Isn't that what she wanted? |
| 21:09.03 | awilcox | "two quick programs in succession" |
| 21:09.21 | JeffM2501 | SportChick, you want one to start, do it's thing, end then the second to run after the first is started? |
| 21:09.30 | JeffM2501 | or do you want both to start with one click? |
| 21:09.30 | SportChick | JeffM2501: yes |
| 21:09.36 | JeffM2501 | ok, then yeah batch file |
| 21:09.41 | JeffM2501 | basicly make a text file |
| 21:10.01 | JeffM2501 | put the "target line" of each shortcut on ia line by itself in the text file |
| 21:10.07 | JeffM2501 | then save it as .bat insted of .txt |
| 21:10.11 | JeffM2501 | then just click it |
| 21:10.24 | awilcox | huggles SportChick before she disappears again. |
| 21:11.06 | SportChick | ok, testing (thanks JeffM2501 ) |
| 21:11.20 | JeffM2501 | sure thing |
| 21:13.03 | SportChick | ~jeffm2501++ |
| 21:14.57 | JeffM2501 | work ok? |
| 21:24.12 | JeffM2501 | this is what I have for a template now |
| 21:24.13 | JeffM2501 | http://pastebin.bzflag.bz/m16b7b2c3 |
| 21:26.04 | Lukstr | interesting |
| 21:26.39 | Lukstr | why all the [[ ]] ? |
| 21:26.57 | JeffM2501 | [[$ starts a tag |
| 21:27.00 | JeffM2501 | ]] ends it |
| 21:27.10 | Lukstr | so what would [[Hello]] be? |
| 21:27.31 | JeffM2501 | it would oputput as [[Helo]] |
| 21:27.40 | Lukstr | heh |
| 21:27.40 | JeffM2501 | it has to be [[$ or [[* |
| 21:27.51 | JeffM2501 | [[$ is a variable that is replaced |
| 21:27.54 | Lukstr | right |
| 21:27.55 | JeffM2501 | [[* is for loops |
| 21:28.14 | JeffM2501 | [[-- is for comments and are skiped |
| 21:28.55 | JeffM2501 | probably do [[? for if tests |
| 21:29.04 | Lukstr | seems a bit overkill imo |
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| 21:30.12 | Lukstr | JeffM2501: you're writing a parser in C++ ? |
| 21:37.41 | JeffM2501 | I am doing a tempalte system for the HTTPD plug-ins |
| 21:37.57 | JeffM2501 | so yes it will be in C |
| 21:38.24 | Lukstr | using any parsing libraries? |
| 21:38.27 | JeffM2501 | naw |
| 21:38.30 | JeffM2501 | parsing is cake |
| 21:38.32 | Lukstr | :( |
| 21:39.06 | JeffM2501 | I'd rather not add more dependencies for something this silly |
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| 21:43.39 | Lukstr | boo :P |
| 21:43.47 | whodaman- | :P |
| 21:44.48 | JeffM2501 | why? |
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| 21:49.34 | Lukstr | context free grammars are fun! |
| 21:50.06 | JeffM2501 | it's about setup time |
| 21:50.09 | JeffM2501 | and logicness |
| 21:50.15 | JeffM2501 | I'm sure they are fine for many things |
| 21:50.57 | JeffM2501 | if I wanted to hook into a language I'd just do python or something |
| 21:53.17 | Lukstr | true |
| 21:53.44 | JeffM2501 | and I need context sensitive replacments |
| 21:54.02 | Lukstr | hurm |
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| 22:20.04 | spldart | just verified blast007's pastebin from 3 hours ago over here :) And I know it was goin to be fixed a bit later |
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| 22:47.21 | Lukstr | ooo |
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