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| 00:30.48 | think_tank | on any version of 2.x bzfs, banning a slot will always attempt to ban the player's bzid if globally authed correct? |
| 00:36.23 | donny_baker | hmmm... don't think that happens in early versions |
| 00:36.35 | donny_baker | think it was added around 4 or 6 |
| 00:37.35 | donny_baker | gah.. rebuilt my laptop this week and don't have the BZFlag repositories on it yet |
| 00:39.10 | JeffM | bzId was not in 2.0.x that is for sure |
| 00:39.15 | JeffM | 2.0.0 I mean |
| 01:08.10 | blast007 | any idea if it's a 'bad idea' to checkout something from SVN into a directory structure that is also using SVN? (like you have /usr/www/ containing stuff from one SVN, and then you checkout another SVN tree to /usr/www/something/ ) |
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| 01:12.22 | brlcad | blast007: nah, that should be fine |
| 01:12.35 | blast007 | k |
| 01:12.48 | brlcad | especially if they're the same repo |
| 01:12.58 | brlcad | but even if they're not, it should be fine |
| 01:13.18 | brlcad | just a few operations will fail if you try to apply something to the top-level recursively |
| 01:13.19 | blast007 | if you 'svn up' in the /usr/www, will it also update the one in /usr/www/something/ ? |
| 01:13.28 | blast007 | guess I could just try this out too |
| 01:14.44 | brlcad | don't believe so, not with svn at least |
| 01:15.44 | blast007 | brlcad: any idea who maintains the files for the league/ subdirectory in the m.b.o vhost? |
| 01:15.50 | brlcad | dmp used to |
| 01:15.55 | blast007 | k |
| 01:16.05 | brlcad | then I think menotume was |
| 01:16.18 | blast007 | some of them had been removed, but were not removed from SVN, so when I updated, they came back (but I have since removed them again) |
| 01:16.19 | brlcad | it's been a handful of folks |
| 01:16.34 | blast007 | mainly wondering if it belongs in our SVN anyway |
| 01:16.49 | brlcad | don't see why not |
| 01:17.06 | blast007 | web-league has their own SF.net project |
| 01:17.08 | brlcad | the idea at least is/was to have one place where we could check out all web services |
| 01:18.29 | brlcad | yeah, I never really saw the purpose of breaking it out myself, but then I wasn't the one working on it ;) |
| 01:18.53 | brlcad | things tend to rot that way |
| 01:19.03 | blast007 | k |
| 01:19.16 | blast007 | I'm going to be moving all the web stuff into the web/ module |
| 01:19.20 | blast007 | with their own subdirectory |
| 01:19.47 | brlcad | okies |
| 01:19.56 | blast007 | that way we can check out one individual web service at a time |
| 01:20.04 | brlcad | that stuff is probably way out of sync |
| 01:20.10 | blast007 | I synced stuff |
| 01:20.12 | brlcad | ah |
| 01:20.23 | brlcad | main site shoulda been close |
| 01:20.31 | blast007 | the bzflag.org page was still using CVS, and it was before the *.cvs.sourceforge.net change ;) |
| 01:20.40 | blast007 | but yeah, it was close |
| 01:21.26 | blast007 | any idea when we plan to use drupal (or some CMS) as our main site? |
| 01:21.39 | blast007 | trying to determine if it's worth my time to do much work on the main site |
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| 01:30.05 | blast007 | crosses his fingers that he did this right |
| 01:30.14 | CIA-33 | BZFlag: 03blast007 * r17168 10/trunk/web/ (39 files in 20 dirs): Move the files for the main bzflag.org page into a mainsite/ subdirectory. |
| 01:30.55 | blast007 | yay |
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| 01:36.10 | CIA-33 | BZFlag: 03blast007 * r17169 10/trunk/ (db/bzfls2/ db/bzgrpmgr/ web/bzfls2/ web/bzgrpmgr/): Move bzfls2 and bzgrpmgr (BZFlag Group Manager) into subdirectories of web/ |
| 01:43.42 | sam | brlcad: another FTGL success story, I patched Chromium to use it instead of its non-free, proprietary text renderer |
| 01:44.10 | sam | you can hardly tell the difference: http://zoy.org/~sam/ftgl-chromium2.png (FTGL version is bottom right) |
| 01:56.44 | blast007 | brlcad: I'm going to wait until I have more time to move the league, stats, and list server stuff out of db/ |
| 01:59.19 | TD-Linux | sam, hah, lower right looks a lot better :) |
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| 02:19.20 | brlcad | sam: awesome |
| 02:19.37 | brlcad | we should start a list of known projects that use ftgl or something :) |
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| 04:59.59 | CIA-33 | FTGL: 03brlcad * r1121 10/trunk/docs/ (Makefile.am projects_using_ftgl.txt): add a list of project using ftgl |
| 07:11.56 | BulletCatcher | Flash: To get the distributed FTGL to use the distributed freetype it looks like freetype must be compiled before configuring FTGL, which must then be configured with --with-ft-prefix=../freetype --with-ft-exec-prefix=../freetype/builds/unix . |
| 07:12.38 | BulletCatcher | Otherwise, the distributed freetype-config program won't exist when it is needed to configure FTGL. |
| 07:12.48 | BulletCatcher | I think.... |
| 07:25.40 | Flash | BulletCatcher: doesn't seem to matter |
| 07:25.55 | Flash | of course, there's a bit of chicken-and-egg there |
| 07:26.04 | Flash | I need to configure to be able to build freetype |
| 07:26.12 | Flash | but I need to build freetype before configure? |
| 07:26.42 | Flash | if I go into the freetype directory and "make", I get "nothing to build", so I guess it's up-to-date |
| 07:26.56 | Flash | but still no joy (and no change) |
| 07:26.58 | Flash | ./configure --without-x --enable-freetype-built --with-ft-prefix=../freetype --with-ft-exec-prefix=../freetype/builds/unix |
| 07:27.04 | Flash | oops |
| 07:27.11 | BulletCatcher | I don't have it quite right yet. But I'm getting closer. Probably going to have to hack m4/freetype.m4, as you said. |
| 07:28.58 | Flash | that was supposed to be: |
| 07:29.10 | Flash | but it doesn't make any difference |
| 07:29.30 | Flash | ./configure --without-x --enable-freetype-build --with-ft-prefix=../freetype --with-ft-exec-prefix=../freetype/builds/unix |
| 07:29.52 | Flash | (if you miss the leading . on ./configure, irssi get's confused) |
| 07:30.29 | BulletCatcher | The trick is to get the FTGL configure to find the freetype-config from our distribution instead of the system one. I still don't have the right incantation. |
| 07:32.50 | BulletCatcher | Our distributed freetype-config can be built by: (cd src/other/freetype/builds/unix ; ./configure) but the configure needs some options. |
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| 07:44.14 | BulletCatcher | The m4/freetype.m4 in the FTGL distribution has some expectations for the structure of the freetype area that probably won't be met until freetype is fully compiled. Basically freetype is expected to be "installed" at FTGL configuration time. |
| 07:45.13 | L4m3r | ugh |
| 07:45.23 | BulletCatcher | This isn't just a MacOS problem, by the way. |
| 07:45.26 | L4m3r | that's always fun. tonight's build segfaulted. |
| 07:46.13 | BulletCatcher | L4m3r: your server auto-build? |
| 07:46.36 | L4m3r | yeah |
| 07:46.46 | BulletCatcher | :-( |
| 07:46.51 | L4m3r | ld has a tendency to segfault on that box |
| 07:46.55 | L4m3r | I do not know why |
| 07:47.23 | L4m3r | fortunately, no changes to the actual trunk source tree appear to have been made, and the server does not restart if the build fails |
| 07:49.16 | BulletCatcher | If BZFlag didn't change, then there must be some strange problem with the server itself. |
| 07:50.15 | L4m3r | no, it's the mechanism by which it checks for changes |
| 07:50.24 | L4m3r | my script just looks at the revision number |
| 07:50.55 | L4m3r | if something is changed somewhere else in the svn repo, the script sees the revision number change and rebuilds |
| 07:51.04 | L4m3r | even though there's nothing new :P |
| 07:51.53 | BulletCatcher | If there were no actual differences to the BZFlag tree between, say, r17155 and r17167, and it compiled before and doesn't now, then that is stragnge. |
| 07:52.03 | BulletCatcher | (so is my spelling) |
| 07:52.50 | L4m3r | oh, well, yeah |
| 07:53.15 | L4m3r | spontaneous segfault... probably a hardware anomaly in the server |
| 07:53.25 | L4m3r | (I did get it from the garbage after all) |
| 07:53.52 | BulletCatcher | :-) Maybe the previous owner had a good reason for throwing it away. |
| 07:54.49 | L4m3r | overheating, I think |
| 07:55.13 | BulletCatcher | That could do it. |
| 07:55.15 | L4m3r | it was missing one of the processors, and the other had thermal goop practically burnt onto the core |
| 07:55.40 | L4m3r | and two of the three case fans were so stiff they could hardly spin, let alone push air |
| 07:56.08 | BulletCatcher | Maybe you can get a refund? ;-) |
| 07:56.15 | L4m3r | so I'm guessing that it choked, and they didn't find it worth fixing. it seems that it was part of a cluster. |
| 07:56.41 | L4m3r | but aside from that issue it has worked rather well. |
| 07:57.17 | BulletCatcher | In other words, try compiling again and maybe it will work this time. |
| 07:57.54 | L4m3r | give it 24 hours :) |
| 07:58.03 | L4m3r | then again, I could just restart the script |
| 07:58.06 | BulletCatcher | holds his breath |
| 07:58.23 | L4m3r | hm... |
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| 10:58.34 | kierra | ~birthday menotume |
| 10:58.35 | ibot | ACTION Happy Birthday to you, Happy birthday to you!, HAPPY BIRTHDAY DEEEAARR menotume, Happy Birthday toooo yoooou! |
| 10:58.54 | menotume | someon ekick her :P |
| 10:59.18 | kierra | tsk tsk |
| 10:59.30 | kierra | brlcad and chestal like me |
| 11:05.04 | ruskie | lol |
| 11:07.18 | menotume | ~lart brlcad and Chestal |
| 11:07.18 | ibot | sends a legion of lawyers after brlcad and Chestal's head |
| 11:08.04 | kierra | ~hug brlcad and chestal |
| 11:08.04 | ibot | ACTION gets a running start and tackle-hugs brlcad and chestal |
| 11:16.49 | Chestal | menotume: All the best! |
| 11:17.00 | menotume | thx |
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| 12:17.22 | tulcod | how much work is left for bzflag 3? |
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| 12:21.26 | donny_baker | Happy Birthday, menotume |
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| 12:45.28 | spldart | Meno: Happy Birthday! |
| 12:46.17 | tupone | unotmeu: hb! |
| 12:46.27 | menotume | ty, ty all :) |
| 12:46.43 | spldart | lol @ the word scramble |
| 12:47.06 | unotmeu | one of my alternates :) |
| 12:47.27 | spldart | hehe |
| 12:47.43 | unotmeu | which is a good idea (to hide) today :) |
| 12:57.53 | Manu | yadhtrib yppah unotmeu (: |
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| 13:01.38 | spldart | ooOO Kkk |
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| 13:33.23 | brlcad | Manu: hehe |
| 13:48.21 | Manu | buenos dÃas brlcad :) |
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| 14:05.23 | brlcad | :) |
| 14:10.16 | CIA-33 | FTGL: 03sammy * r1122 10/trunk/ (configure.ac m4/font.m4): * Add an m4 check to look for a font file on the system. |
| 14:11.47 | CIA-33 | FTGL: 03sammy * r1123 10/trunk/demo/ (FTGLDemo.cpp FTGLMFontDemo.cpp c-demo.c simple.cpp): * The examples now use FONT_FILE if it was found by the configure step. |
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| 14:25.47 | CIA-33 | FTGL: 03sammy * r1124 10/trunk/m4/font.m4: * Use fontconfig to find fonts on the system. |
| 14:27.37 | sam | brlcad: FTFont::Advance() now returns an FPoint object instead of a float; you may want to replace occurrences of ...->Advance(...) with ...->Advance(...).Xf() in your code |
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| 14:35.11 | sam | (the change is necessary because for vertical text, advance is in the Y direction) |
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| 16:52.48 | JeffM | 6 shirts left untill sometime next week :/ |
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| 18:22.49 | brlcad | sam: hm, then it'd probably be useful to have ftgl.h expose a version number now too then, so we can key on it for migration (so we can continue to build with apt/portage/ports/etc) until new version is distributed |
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| 18:26.59 | jptr | I need assistance. |
| 18:26.59 | JeffM | with? |
| 18:27.05 | jptr | I can not log on, nor access the wiki |
| 18:27.30 | JeffM | what happens when you try? |
| 18:28.09 | jptr | I can not get TOKEN when I want to log on. I get error 403 when I want to acess my.bzflag.org |
| 18:28.39 | JeffM | that'd be a ban |
| 18:28.45 | JeffM | do anything recently? |
| 18:29.03 | jptr | Can you ban a whole IP-Subnet? |
| 18:29.12 | JeffM | techincaly yes |
| 18:29.16 | JeffM | tho it's rare for us to do so |
| 18:29.22 | jptr | That would be stupid. |
| 18:29.22 | JeffM | hve you cheated anywhere? |
| 18:29.26 | jptr | No. |
| 18:29.31 | JeffM | what is your IP? |
| 18:29.41 | jptr | wait |
| 18:29.55 | jptr | 84.59.244.32 |
| 18:30.15 | JeffM | brlcad or blast007 can we see if that's in the firewall list? |
| 18:30.40 | ruskie | hmm how would he get a 403 if he was in the firewall? |
| 18:30.46 | JeffM | true |
| 18:30.50 | JeffM | then it'd be appache |
| 18:30.58 | blast007 | mod_security maybe? |
| 18:31.01 | JeffM | probalby |
| 18:31.10 | JeffM | jptr, hit the server a lot? |
| 18:31.16 | jptr | how? |
| 18:31.24 | ruskie | he means do you access it a lot |
| 18:31.28 | blast007 | what browser are you using? |
| 18:31.39 | jptr | mozilla-derivate |
| 18:32.58 | jptr | no, I dont access the webserver a lot |
| 18:33.48 | blast007 | not sure if there's a way I can check the access log. just tried, but it gave me a permision denied |
| 18:34.19 | jptr | that's exactly the reason, I can not access my.bzflag.org |
| 18:34.26 | JeffM | differnt thing |
| 18:34.28 | blast007 | no, I mean in SSH |
| 18:34.30 | JeffM | he's meaning on the server |
| 18:34.39 | JeffM | he has direct access to the machine |
| 18:35.01 | JBdiGriz | Obviously he doesn't have direct access to the machine, or he wouldn't get a permission denied. |
| 18:35.09 | JeffM | heh |
| 18:35.11 | jptr | did you check if http://my.bzflag.org is accessible for you? |
| 18:35.13 | JeffM | well he's got shell |
| 18:35.16 | JeffM | jptr, it is |
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| 18:35.28 | JeffM | he knows what he's doing, he's one of our webmasters. |
| 18:35.39 | blast007 | JeffM: hah.. |
| 18:35.59 | blast007 | I know what I'm doing when I deal with PHP, at least ;) |
| 18:36.22 | JBdiGriz | wonders if he's one of our webmasters because he knows what he's doing or vice versa |
| 18:36.36 | jptr | so I can put a stick beside the 403? |
| 18:37.11 | JeffM | huh? |
| 18:37.15 | JeffM | a stick? |
| 18:37.31 | jptr | yes, perhaps it looks prettier then. |
| 18:37.37 | blast007 | o.O |
| 18:37.38 | JeffM | double huh? |
| 18:37.53 | jptr | *sarcasm* |
| 18:37.58 | blast007 | *confusion* |
| 18:38.06 | JeffM | big time |
| 18:38.19 | JeffM | it's probalby a security thing we have in place that looks for attacks |
| 18:38.24 | JeffM | it will be looked into |
| 18:38.50 | jptr | but I did not attack your webserver and it seems to block the whole IP-subnet of my ISP |
| 18:38.58 | ruskie | *shudders* at the enhanced server list... TMI type thing... |
| 18:38.58 | JeffM | I know |
| 18:39.03 | JeffM | I'm not saying that it is correct |
| 18:39.14 | JeffM | I'm just saying what seems to have happend |
| 18:39.26 | jptr | okay, thank you then. |
| 18:39.27 | JeffM | so you will have to wait and see what we can find out. |
| 18:39.40 | JeffM | the security system isn't perfect |
| 18:39.45 | JeffM | but it's a lot better then not having it :) |
| 18:39.55 | jptr | going fo RL |
| 18:40.06 | eth01 | from general experience, arcor-ip.net are blacklisted much |
| 18:40.40 | JeffM | probably got a large botnet on it or something |
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| 19:03.59 | AlexanderLAW | brlcad: hi, it's me dreaming of unicode support again |
| 19:04.27 | brlcad | howdy AlexanderLAW |
| 19:04.46 | AlexanderLAW | is there any issues that prevents including my changes into your code? |
| 19:05.13 | AlexanderLAW | are there, i mean |
| 19:05.15 | brlcad | depends on the changes of course ;) |
| 19:05.20 | brlcad | but not likely |
| 19:06.03 | AlexanderLAW | i finished translation, and had no problem with russian l10n |
| 19:06.06 | brlcad | AlexanderLAW: do you already have the changes made? |
| 19:06.20 | brlcad | OOh, right, sorry wrong person |
| 19:06.29 | brlcad | remembers |
| 19:06.45 | AlexanderLAW | yes, i've applied the changes locally and it works just fine |
| 19:14.19 | AlexanderLAW | that was patch i posted some time ago http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1956725&group_id=3248&atid=303248 |
| 19:18.43 | AlexanderLAW | well, may be it's late really, then I'll be online tomorrow and we could discuss the changes if you wish |
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| 21:53.27 | CIA-33 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * r17170 10/trunk/bzflag/MSVC/ (VC71/config.h VC8/config.h): define BUILD_FTGL for windows targets |
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| 23:04.42 | spldart | How do I cover the freetype dependency for bzflag trunk? I dowloaded a latest stable ver and build and installed it. But ./configure says nojoy |
| 23:07.43 | blast007 | spldart: we have freetype right in our source |
| 23:07.51 | blast007 | but there might be "issues" right now with that |
| 23:07.59 | blast007 | I haven't personally tried to build recently |
| 23:08.30 | blast007 | guess I should try building on Windows, Linux, and OSX and see which ones work ;) |
| 23:09.20 | spldart | Windows seems fine |
| 23:09.25 | spldart | I'm having issues with linux |
| 23:09.33 | spldart | debian etch to be exact. |
| 23:09.37 | blast007 | what kind of issues? |
| 23:09.50 | spldart | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:09.52 | blast007 | build failure? configure failure? |
| 23:09.54 | blast007 | hmm |
| 23:09.59 | spldart | I'm trying to get the latest ftgl now |
| 23:09.59 | blast007 | tried a clean checkout? |
| 23:10.04 | spldart | no |
| 23:10.05 | spldart | svn up |
| 23:10.08 | spldart | after make clean |
| 23:10.09 | blast007 | we already have FTGL *in* our source |
| 23:10.15 | spldart | hrm |
| 23:10.17 | spldart | odd |
| 23:10.21 | blast007 | try a clean checkout |
| 23:10.25 | spldart | Should I just... |
| 23:10.30 | spldart | ok.. will do |
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| 23:21.34 | spldart | how very odd.. that fixed it |
| 23:23.18 | brlcad | spldart: configure tries to detect if you have it already installed, if it doesn't detect it as being available then it will just compile the sources we already provide |
| 23:23.34 | blast007 | spldart: had you run an autogen.sh? |
| 23:23.35 | brlcad | that goes for most of the bzflag dependencies |
| 23:23.48 | blast007 | that's probably what you were missing |
| 23:23.57 | brlcad | the summary just indicates whether it found it, it should still "work" |
| 23:24.30 | blast007 | brlcad: from the sound of it, his build system wasn't up-to-date |
| 23:24.35 | spldart | configure was definitely not working right.. it dumped out before I got to the point I could make |
| 23:24.41 | brlcad | if it fails to find a system-installed one -- that's probably either due to not running autogen.sh like blast007 said or missing headers/libs (see config.log test output) |
| 23:24.59 | spldart | but a fresh checkout fixed the problem whereas a make clean and svn up didn't previously |
| 23:25.06 | brlcad | ah |
| 23:25.08 | brlcad | autogen.sh then |
| 23:25.32 | spldart | I can see now how config SHOULD default to internal build of that dependency if not found external |
| 23:25.35 | spldart | hrm |
| 23:25.53 | brlcad | until you are really familiar with everything going on, you should run autogen.sh && ./configure && make clean before any make if you see configure.ac or any Makefile.am updated during svn up |
| 23:26.20 | spldart | I always do ./autogen.sh when .am or .ac comes up |
| 23:26.23 | brlcad | (that goes for anyone and any autotools project really) |
| 23:26.28 | brlcad | k |
| 23:26.43 | spldart | I know.. learned my lesson on that one a while back. JeffM taught me better |
| 23:27.07 | spldart | I'm hooked up now though.. thanks :) |
| 23:27.21 | brlcad | :) |
| 23:28.01 | spldart | I really need to get into the habit of using && and waht's the oppossite? || ? |
| 23:29.06 | brlcad | and / or .. not really opposite ;) |
| 23:29.15 | brlcad | opposite of && is don't run the command :) |
| 23:31.06 | spldart | heh |
| 23:31.30 | spldart | and, nand, or, nor... next thing is I'll start using boolean algebra in my scripts |
| 23:31.34 | spldart | :-p |
| 23:31.44 | spldart | e-tech joke |
