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| 00:05.54 | bugQ | JeffM2501: so "bug fix" now includes "banging on it"? |
| 00:07.02 | bugQ | hey baby, i'll fix that bug for you nice and quick. |
| 00:07.07 | bugQ | runs and hides. |
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| 00:08.48 | Epyon_ | Sooo, who's gonna make the 17000 commit? ;] |
| 00:08.59 | Winny | Epyon_, quick, do it! |
| 00:09.02 | Winny | commit some whitespace |
| 00:09.28 | Epyon_ | Winny, no way, I'm on the edge even without doing such silliness :P |
| 00:09.47 | Winny | hehe |
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| 00:14.03 | Lukstr | gah! |
| 00:14.09 | Lukstr | waves |
| 00:14.14 | Epyon_ | waves |
| 00:14.21 | Winny | waves to Luckster |
| 00:14.27 | Lukstr | makes sure nobody rides no waves... |
| 00:14.41 | Lukstr | Nice Winny |
| 00:14.42 | Winny | double negative! |
| 00:14.46 | Winny | so everyone can ride on waves |
| 00:15.00 | Lukstr | forgot to close my hick tag |
| 00:15.06 | Epyon_ | rides the suplied wave |
| 00:15.11 | Winny | :P |
| 00:15.21 | Lukstr | Annnyways |
| 00:15.25 | Lukstr | That was hectic twodays |
| 00:15.34 | mcintyem_ | knows he means nobody don't ride no waves. |
| 00:15.57 | Lukstr | :D |
| 00:16.19 | Lukstr | it is good to be home |
| 00:19.27 | mcintyem_ | who are the models on the bzflag shirts are they devs? |
| 00:19.59 | Winny | no |
| 00:20.10 | Winny | JeffM2501 force--- err asked them to model them |
| 00:21.27 | JeffM2501 | I asked nicely |
| 00:21.45 | JeffM2501 | and got a pizza for the shoot |
| 00:21.46 | Winny | "Would you like to smell this ether rag, m'am?" |
| 00:21.53 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 00:22.05 | JeffM2501 | I used a third party so it would not seem creepy |
| 00:22.17 | Winny | ;) |
| 00:22.51 | JeffM2501 | asking the cute girl at work "hey can we take pictures of you downstairs for our website" would not go over well |
| 00:23.04 | Winny | haha |
| 00:23.26 | JeffM2501 | she was very helpfull |
| 00:23.49 | JeffM2501 | she actualy did all the work on scaling, croping, retouching, etc.. on the images for me |
| 00:26.28 | JeffM2501 | and her camera is WAYYY cooler then mine |
| 00:26.45 | Winny | DSLR? |
| 00:27.03 | JeffM2501 | yes |
| 00:27.10 | Winny | mm |
| 00:28.37 | Lukstr | I need to get a new DSLR |
| 00:28.41 | Lukstr | one of these days |
| 00:28.42 | JeffM2501 | you should post a picture of the military green shirt Winny |
| 00:28.44 | Lukstr | when I find a pile of money. |
| 00:28.51 | Lukstr | howdy JeffM2501 |
| 00:28.54 | JeffM2501 | hallo |
| 00:29.01 | Winny | JeffM2501, it's in the wash now, I will |
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| 00:30.46 | Winny | although when I wore it to school I got alot of "what is that?" |
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| 00:31.10 | bugQ | aha! |
| 00:32.50 | JeffM2501 | delusional_, are there any open issues with modeltool from your bug report? https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1857086&group_id=3248&atid=103248 |
| 00:32.55 | JeffM2501 | I think they are all fixed |
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| 00:46.51 | CIA-14 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r17000 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzfs/ (CustomBox.cxx CustomPyramid.cxx): bug 1848976: when boxes and pyramids are converted to meshboxes at runtime, then be sure to transfer the passable flags over to the mesh object we create, not just the faces. |
| 00:57.12 | BulletCatcher | hopes that means drivethrough now works on boxes |
| 00:57.30 | JeffM2501 | boxes that had materials get turned to meshboxes |
| 00:57.41 | JeffM2501 | during that conversion the passable options were lost |
| 00:58.10 | JeffM2501 | normal meshboxes, and normal boxes should hve worked fine before that change |
| 00:59.38 | BulletCatcher | When I run the Two Tanks map on a 2.99 server, the back wall (just a box) of the turret cannot be driven through as it is supposed to be. |
| 00:59.56 | JeffM2501 | how is it defined in the map? |
| 01:00.02 | JeffM2501 | as a box or a meshbox? |
| 01:00.05 | BulletCatcher | as a box |
| 01:00.11 | JeffM2501 | does it have a matref? |
| 01:00.14 | BulletCatcher | no |
| 01:00.30 | JeffM2501 | how old was your code? there were bugs with passables that I fixed last month |
| 01:00.56 | BulletCatcher | The only thing unusual about it is that it has a thickness of 0. The server code is very recent. |
| 01:01.12 | JeffM2501 | can you make me a sample map with just the affected objects? |
| 01:01.32 | BulletCatcher | I'm sure I can. Give me a few hours to make it happen. |
| 01:01.40 | JeffM2501 | whenever |
| 01:25.14 | mcintyem_ | JeffM2501: You are very "hakkuna-matata" today. |
| 01:27.17 | L4m3r | it's friday |
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| 01:33.26 | JeffM2501 | ? |
| 01:34.36 | JeffM2501 | I just don't want to do more CRC regression viewing |
| 01:57.02 | Flash | is there or should there be any linkage between RemotePlayer and RobotPlayer? |
| 01:57.44 | Flash | in response to the addPlayer message, a RemotePlayer is created |
| 01:57.55 | Flash | that's what's checked for "alive" in the draw loop |
| 01:58.10 | JeffM2501 | isAlive |
| 01:58.16 | Flash | right |
| 01:58.25 | Flash | the RobotPlayer reports isAlive() true |
| 01:58.32 | Flash | but the RemotePlayer doesn't |
| 01:58.38 | JeffM2501 | then find out why :) |
| 01:58.47 | JeffM2501 | step step step :) |
| 01:59.17 | Flash | my first thought was to replace the RemotePlayer with RobotPlayer, but I'm pretty sure that's wrong (like it doesn't work) |
| 01:59.25 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 01:59.27 | JeffM2501 | it used to work |
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| 01:59.32 | JeffM2501 | you shoudl find out what happend in the old version |
| 01:59.39 | JeffM2501 | and what is not the same now |
| 02:02.41 | JeffM2501 | donny_baker, you arround? |
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| 02:26.40 | BulletCatcher | Here is a 4-line map that demonstrates the "drivethrough" problem: |
| 02:26.51 | BulletCatcher | box |
| 02:26.57 | BulletCatcher | size 10 10 10 |
| 02:27.01 | BulletCatcher | drivethrough |
| 02:27.05 | BulletCatcher | end |
| 02:27.27 | JeffM2501 | ok |
| 02:27.28 | BulletCatcher | "passable" and "shootthrough" both work fine |
| 02:27.33 | JeffM2501 | wierd |
| 02:27.42 | JeffM2501 | I was testing that kinda stuff today |
| 02:27.42 | BulletCatcher | same problem with a pyramid |
| 02:27.45 | JeffM2501 | but I'll give it a shot |
| 02:28.01 | BulletCatcher | just built r17000 |
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| 02:30.32 | JeffM2501 | let me just finish my class file here |
| 02:30.45 | BulletCatcher | I'm in no hurry... |
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| 02:31.00 | JeffM2501 | are reverse_iteraators ++ed or --ed? |
| 02:31.23 | purple_cow | ++ |
| 02:31.39 | JeffM2501 | danke |
| 02:33.18 | Lukstr | heh, reverse_iterators --'d would be a double negative :P |
| 02:34.57 | JeffM2501 | checks the tangibility of said objects |
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| 02:48.23 | JeffM2501 | wow, that was a stupid stupid bug :) |
| 02:49.21 | brlcad | that's a lot of e-mail :) |
| 02:49.27 | BulletCatcher | With an easy fix I hope. |
| 02:49.39 | JeffM2501 | BulletCatcher, easier then you think |
| 02:49.43 | Flash | there used to be a server message MsgIdAck ? Did it go away or was it replaced with something else? |
| 02:50.00 | JeffM2501 | brlcad, you wanted it to be fixed, im fixing! |
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| 02:52.33 | CIA-14 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r17001 10/trunk/bzflag/include/ObstacleMgr.h: Obstacle Type IDs for wall, box, pyramid, and base were off by one when tested. |
| 02:52.44 | JeffM2501 | drive thru works now |
| 02:52.50 | BulletCatcher | excellent |
| 02:52.52 | JeffM2501 | as does tangability :) |
| 02:53.19 | brlcad | JeffM2501: I ain't complaining, just noting the size of my inbox :) |
| 02:53.27 | brlcad | needs to turn off the double-notify |
| 02:54.18 | CIA-14 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r17002 10/trunk/bzflag/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Add a generic BackgroundTask system for the offloading of large data operations on the server. Currently not threaded but setup to be easily done. |
| 02:54.30 | JeffM2501 | brlcad, you shoulda seen mine |
| 02:54.36 | JeffM2501 | freaking SF bug emails |
| 02:55.04 | JeffM2501 | 58 bugs left on SF |
| 02:55.24 | Lukstr | JeffM2501: that's it? |
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| 02:55.28 | JeffM2501 | yep |
| 02:55.37 | brlcad | glares at lh for getting him to open up his bottles of scotch |
| 02:55.48 | Lukstr | wrong channel |
| 02:55.49 | JeffM2501 | ww |
| 02:55.49 | brlcad | sips happy |
| 02:56.01 | brlcad | not really :) |
| 02:56.06 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 02:56.08 | Lukstr | aha.. |
| 02:56.17 | Lukstr | I was slightly hung over today. |
| 02:56.18 | Epyon_ | omg, brlcad is drinking O.o |
| 02:56.23 | brlcad | just glaring from around the corner |
| 02:56.33 | brlcad | Epyon_: that's nothing new :) |
| 02:57.11 | JeffM2501 | brlcad, oh there is a hook now that the mac can tie into to throw up a fatal error dialog if you want |
| 02:57.21 | JeffM2501 | to give a nice "your mac sucks" message |
| 02:57.41 | Lukstr | ducks |
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| 02:58.10 | JeffM2501 | dinner time |
| 02:58.53 | Epyon | never drinks before dinner -_- |
| 03:06.57 | spldart | Cheap router from Fry's to replace my D-link 604 that died a horrible death? |
| 03:07.12 | spldart | Not wireless |
| 03:07.37 | spldart | is trying to set up a permanent third broadband modem |
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| 03:10.56 | Lukstr | spldart: do you bridge all your connections? |
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| 03:15.14 | spldart | No.. One broadband is the work connection. I limit bandwidth and they don't mind. The second and third are in the house... I was down to just one for a while but just picked up my new modem from comcast so back up to two. They are not bridged.. I just use one for torrents and general browsing on some machiens and the other is for serving games and web on 2 other rigs |
| 03:15.33 | JeffM | mmmmmmmmm warm beeflamb |
| 03:15.39 | spldart | :) |
| 03:15.57 | spldart | felt the need for more bandwidth for this summer. |
| 03:16.00 | JeffM | wonders what the cowsheep look like |
| 03:16.23 | spldart | 's imagination is too good to hear quandries like that |
| 03:16.35 | JeffM | they taste AWESOME |
| 03:16.37 | JeffM | on a pita |
| 03:18.34 | Lukstr | JeffM: Holy cow (literally) |
| 03:18.42 | Lukstr | I saw some cows off the highway today |
| 03:18.48 | Lukstr | that I thought looked like sheep |
| 03:18.59 | Lukstr | I figured they were just really fuzzy cows |
| 03:19.00 | spldart | big, stinky, sheep |
| 03:19.11 | JeffM | maybe that's what gyros come from |
| 03:19.31 | spldart | I had pizza and now I'm getting hungry again |
| 03:19.43 | Lukstr | spldart: you might be able to get your ISP to combine the two connections for you; I know my ISP will do that if you call them |
| 03:19.54 | Lukstr | so that you get twice the bandwidth |
| 03:19.56 | JeffM | fry's with fetta is also great |
| 03:20.33 | spldart | Fry's....... while you were gone for a sec jeff I asked a question here.. What's a good cheap router from fry's.. to replace my dead d-link |
| 03:20.46 | spldart | From Fry's |
| 03:21.07 | a_meteorite | Lukstr: large corporate ISPs will usually never support that... you'll be lucky if a private one does... at least for consumer level connections |
| 03:21.10 | a_meteorite | cause that requires MLPPP or BGP |
| 03:21.16 | a_meteorite | (there are other techs, but the point is the same) |
| 03:21.25 | Lukstr | a_meteorite: yep, it's a small small small ISP |
| 03:21.41 | Lukstr | they also host a Team Fortress 2 server :P |
| 03:21.53 | Lukstr | and support hardware mods to get the most out of your connection. |
| 03:21.56 | a_meteorite | yeah, they usually go above the call of duty cause they know their customers will support them |
| 03:22.15 | spldart | BTW.. I gotta a bunch of children running around in bzflag shirts like night shirts.. it' |
| 03:22.18 | JeffM | they probably run a call of duty server too |
| 03:22.19 | spldart | s so CUTE~! |
| 03:22.23 | Think_Differentl | spldart, fry's is overpriced, newegg.com ftw |
| 03:22.26 | Lukstr | JeffM: hehe, I thought that too |
| 03:22.29 | JeffM | spldart, heh, I sent all the ones I could |
| 03:22.39 | a_meteorite | spldart: pics! :) |
| 03:22.45 | spldart | HEHE |
| 03:23.09 | spldart | I need to do a family shot all in bzflag shirts once everything is in! |
| 03:23.24 | Think_Differentl | wants his bzflag tie |
| 03:23.35 | JeffM | I'll check the book |
| 03:23.41 | JeffM | I didn't see any when I scanned it the first time |
| 03:23.50 | spldart | Think< I found out this morning that my 3 day guarentee shipping from newegg will take a total of 6 days.. |
| 03:23.54 | spldart | I want something tomorrow |
| 03:24.11 | Think_Differentl | wow, that's terrible. my stuff is shipped 3 day and it comes the next day. |
| 03:24.11 | Lukstr | ah! w00t * 1000 |
| 03:24.13 | JeffM | if you HONESTLY want one the best thing is to get the tie and take it down to one of those "personalisation" kiosks that they have at malls |
| 03:24.22 | Lukstr | I just found out my router supports dyndns |
| 03:24.28 | JeffM | Think_Differentl, where was it from? |
| 03:24.48 | Think_Differentl | JeffM, most of my stuff comes from the warehouse in NJ |
| 03:25.05 | JeffM | and where are you? |
| 03:25.09 | spldart | I've got memory, mice, and some HSF's on the way |
| 03:25.11 | Think_Differentl | Washington DC |
| 03:25.18 | spldart | Your close |
| 03:25.22 | JeffM | that's prety good for next day |
| 03:25.24 | JeffM | on a 3 day |
| 03:25.28 | Think_Differentl | the closest one to spldart seems to be the one in TN |
| 03:25.31 | JeffM | usualy it's only in the same zone |
| 03:25.43 | spldart | Most of my newegg orders still come from ca. |
| 03:26.05 | Think_Differentl | ah, only very occasional things (like my hard disk) come from CA |
| 03:26.19 | spldart | I must order peculiar stuff |
| 03:26.25 | CIA-14 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r17003 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzfs/ (BackgroundTask.cxx BackgroundTask.h): Make the BackgroundTask system a singleton for ease of use |
| 03:27.11 | spldart | this new modem is Scientific Atlanta but it's So Small!@ hehe |
| 03:32.07 | spldart | is gonna head to fry's tomorrow with a budget and a mission. |
| 03:33.46 | CIA-14 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r17004 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzfs/ (BackgroundTask.cxx BackgroundTask.h): tie the BackgroundTask system into the server tick system with a dynamic max time. |
| 03:34.04 | L4m3r | if anyone happens to have an Athlon XP 2000+ palomino they'd be willing to part with, or a matching pair of some other Athlon XP, let me know :P |
| 03:36.32 | DTRemenak | pokes through a box |
| 03:37.02 | Lukstr | pokes DTRemenak |
| 03:37.21 | L4m3r | trade-up could also be arranged... I've got an AMD64 3200+ Venice that I'm not using :P |
| 03:37.54 | DTRemenak | I don't see it here. Might be up north. |
| 03:38.37 | DTRemenak | had a motherboard die out from under a 2000+ |
| 03:39.16 | L4m3r | I did too, which is why I have one laying around |
| 03:39.36 | L4m3r | recently picked up most of a system with a dual-socket Tyan mobo... and it works |
| 03:40.27 | L4m3r | unfortunately cpus were not included |
| 03:40.49 | L4m3r | ...well, one of them was there, but it looks like it's toast |
| 03:41.00 | Flash | where does a player tell the server that he is alive? |
| 03:41.36 | L4m3r | I don't think it does |
| 03:41.59 | L4m3r | iirc the client says "I wanna spawn" and the server says "OK, spawn here kthx" |
| 03:42.28 | Flash | let me debug some more and ask a more intelligent question |
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| 03:43.33 | L4m3r | crosses his fingers |
| 03:44.03 | L4m3r | oh wow |
| 03:44.16 | L4m3r | it booted with the MP 1800+ |
| 03:44.30 | L4m3r | I wonder how hard it would be to find a second one to match |
| 03:45.04 | spldart | which core? |
| 03:45.14 | CIA-14 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r17005 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzfs/ (BackgroundTask.h commands.cxx): have reports run in the background so they don't slow the server down. |
| 03:45.15 | L4m3r | I don't know |
| 03:45.27 | spldart | Yah know the thoroughbreds and bartons can be modded to mp |
| 03:45.35 | L4m3r | mmhm |
| 03:45.41 | spldart | I'm running to barton xp mobiles as mp's right now |
| 03:45.48 | L4m3r | actually, I think it was the tbreds and palominos |
| 03:45.53 | spldart | and used to run two thorobreds |
| 03:46.06 | L4m3r | didn't they disable it for the bartons? |
| 03:46.16 | spldart | palo's are power hungry |
| 03:46.27 | spldart | barton MOBILE's |
| 03:46.29 | spldart | ;-) |
| 03:46.35 | L4m3r | hm |
| 03:46.41 | spldart | They are very scarce now though |
| 03:46.57 | L4m3r | yeah... I think a barton would probably be overkill for this thing anyway |
| 03:47.09 | spldart | This mobo is an msi k7d |
| 03:47.34 | L4m3r | Tyan MPX here |
| 03:47.36 | L4m3r | pretty old |
| 03:47.37 | spldart | OC the bus to 144.. tighten the memory timing's and OC the bartons from 2500's to 3200's |
| 03:47.43 | L4m3r | but it has 2GB of memory in it :P |
| 03:47.52 | spldart | Is that on a 762/768 chipset? |
| 03:48.01 | spldart | amd |
| 03:48.01 | L4m3r | checks |
| 03:48.06 | L4m3r | AMD chipset |
| 03:48.10 | L4m3r | don't remember which one |
| 03:48.46 | spldart | dual socket a is prolly nearly identical to this one |
| 03:48.57 | spldart | I did a socket mod for multiplier unlock and mp enable |
| 03:49.20 | spldart | When my new HSF's come in I may be able to post pics of the mod's for yah |
| 03:50.57 | spldart | if it is a similar/same chipset then be aware that the best mod is more bus speed... these dual socket A's with some reasonably quick processors and souped up fsb's can really impress.. for their age |
| 03:52.44 | spldart | Quick google seems to indicate that you have the same chipset |
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| 03:53.48 | spldart | first two slots take both parity and non parity mem on mine. the mods should work.. paly's are fine but run hot.. tbred's can be awesome and you do see an improvement with dual bartons with their larger on chip memory. 512 over 256 |
| 03:56.25 | spldart | decides to live dangerously and start up the trunk windows client |
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| 03:57.37 | L4m3r | ugh, it does a mem test every boot |
| 03:59.15 | spldart | hehe.. I can't remember if that can be disabled at the moment.. but I only have 1 gig and the aforementioned OC fsb so it goes by fast |
| 04:00.41 | L4m3r | ooooh ah, it has a TNT2 :P |
| 04:00.45 | spldart | BTW.. for the aforementioned OC fsb clock and mem timing mod's I run semi nice pc2700 sticks for room to tweak |
| 04:00.53 | spldart | does it have an agp slot? |
| 04:00.55 | L4m3r | yes |
| 04:00.59 | spldart | good |
| 04:01.03 | spldart | Nvidia here you come |
| 04:01.25 | spldart | I believe 4X is max on the agp |
| 04:01.33 | L4m3r | it's a damn shame... the only other video card I have is a Ti4200, but it's dead |
| 04:01.39 | L4m3r | it would have been a good match too |
| 04:01.49 | spldart | gotta 6200 in this one |
| 04:01.54 | spldart | Your right |
| 04:02.04 | spldart | that would be anice matchup |
| 04:02.09 | L4m3r | this thing will be a server, so I'm over it |
| 04:02.16 | spldart | really? |
| 04:02.27 | spldart | Mine has workstation duties |
| 04:02.34 | L4m3r | yeah, stick it under the bed. should do nicely for mundane server tasks |
| 04:03.08 | L4m3r | it might be a nice old system, but it isn't gonna stand up to the AMD64 box on my desk |
| 04:03.13 | spldart | More than nicely.. I've known peeps with dual mp 1800's and 2 gig ram serve EXTREMELY busy BB's and web servers with that chipset |
| 04:03.29 | L4m3r | or my C2D laptop for that matter |
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| 04:05.29 | L4m3r | hm... shut it down and it won't turn back on |
| 04:05.39 | spldart | umm |
| 04:05.44 | spldart | one processor? |
| 04:05.45 | blast007 | press the button harder |
| 04:05.48 | spldart | LOL |
| 04:06.02 | JeffM | smarter not harder |
| 04:06.13 | spldart | That mobo can run any socket A processor.. it only has to be MP if you have two |
| 04:06.22 | spldart | and yeah matched MP's |
| 04:06.41 | L4m3r | just one right now... the MP1800+ that was in it |
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| 04:06.50 | L4m3r | surprisingly, it's alive |
| 04:07.22 | L4m3r | boots knoppix to poke around the HD |
| 04:07.23 | spldart | Surprising? nah |
| 04:07.54 | L4m3r | spldart: the area on the die around the core, and on the bottom under the core, is noticeably darker than the rest |
| 04:07.58 | L4m3r | I thought it was fried |
| 04:08.01 | spldart | Those 760 chipsets seem to run forever.. You might have to replace a cap or three a few years down the rode but they are energizer bunnies |
| 04:08.20 | spldart | Stock aluminum HSF on a paly |
| 04:08.24 | spldart | They do get hot |
| 04:08.30 | spldart | as I said |
| 04:08.53 | spldart | couple cheap copper hsf's from newegg and some tbreds or bartons and your hooked up nicely :) |
| 04:08.55 | spldart | Oh wel |
| 04:09.08 | spldart | congrats on the find :) |
| 04:09.10 | L4m3r | there was another system like this one |
| 04:09.20 | L4m3r | but it was just the mobo inside... two caps missing, and one more broken |
| 04:09.31 | spldart | ooOOoo :) |
| 04:09.39 | L4m3r | I took the case (cheiftec 601 ^_^ ) and tossed the mobo :\ |
| 04:09.46 | spldart | Poop |
| 04:09.51 | Lukstr | L4m3r: haha |
| 04:10.13 | spldart | has some socket A's he'd like to find a home for |
| 04:10.16 | L4m3r | there must be a cluster of these in Boelter hall someplace, because the two cases are numbered 64 and 63 |
| 04:11.21 | L4m3r | pokes around the 40GB HD he found in another computer |
| 04:15.38 | L4m3r | so spldart, do you think it would be a worthwhile investment to get some procs for this thing? |
| 04:16.07 | spldart | Considering the age.. Only if you can ebay a pair that are near identical cheap |
| 04:16.27 | L4m3r | there are some pairs of MPs for sale on fleabay |
| 04:16.36 | spldart | I wouldn't try on my setup for the last year.. it's finally to old.. and it's hard to improve on my last upgrade with thjs old a chipset |
| 04:16.51 | spldart | wow.. pairs of MP' |
| 04:16.52 | CIA-14 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r17006 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzfs/commands.cxx: add checks on the player for the ViewReport callback to ensure they are still connected, and the same person. |
| 04:16.52 | spldart | s |
| 04:16.55 | spldart | What core? |
| 04:17.01 | spldart | Guarantee'd to work? |
| 04:17.03 | L4m3r | dunno |
| 04:17.08 | CIA-14 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r17007 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzfs/BackgroundTask.cxx: go to the max wait time when any task is added. |
| 04:18.04 | L4m3r | ugh, no USB keyboard/mouse support |
| 04:18.13 | spldart | Just a pair of old tbred's without an overclock and the fsb bumped a bit is real impressive for servers. |
| 04:18.18 | spldart | Nope |
| 04:18.42 | spldart | But the chipset is well supported in linux :) |
| 04:19.24 | spldart | Oh.. and you may find that onboard usb suxors. I just disable and through a four port pci card in there |
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| 04:20.08 | L4m3r | USB1.1 only on the board |
| 04:20.20 | spldart | and it's flaky @ that.. |
| 04:20.57 | spldart | 5 years ago the msi and asus versions of that chipset were kicking butt hard but yeah.. it's old now |
| 04:21.08 | L4m3r | yeah |
| 04:21.11 | L4m3r | good old server |
| 04:21.13 | L4m3r | :P |
| 04:21.15 | spldart | agreed |
| 04:21.38 | L4m3r | I was more interested in the cases when I picked them up |
| 04:21.39 | spldart | And for me it still builds bzflag from scratch in a few minutes |
| 04:25.44 | L4m3r | I wish I knew about scsi... I found a scsi card in the pile too, but I've got no idea if it's useful or not |
| 04:26.08 | CIA-14 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r17008 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzfs/commands.cxx: make the report background task into a more generic buffered chat text task, and use it for /flag show as well. |
| 04:26.17 | Lukstr | L4m3r: argh |
| 04:26.22 | spldart | so far 0 errors 0 warnings jeff :) |
| 04:26.23 | Lukstr | scsi drives are good |
| 04:26.35 | Lukstr | one of my servers is all scsi |
| 04:27.43 | spldart | goes to fire the linux boxen |
| 04:28.42 | L4m3r | ponders installing Xorg on the box |
| 04:29.05 | spldart | with one processor.. nah |
| 04:29.13 | spldart | leave that processor alone to just serve |
| 04:29.22 | L4m3r | I'd only use it to run Konversation via SSH |
| 04:29.23 | L4m3r | :P |
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| 04:31.25 | spldart | bumped his router |
| 04:31.44 | spldart | bumped his router.... hard |
| 04:32.12 | L4m3r | how should I do the networking? hmmmmm |
| 04:32.20 | spldart | ? |
| 04:32.27 | L4m3r | I've got a router |
| 04:32.30 | spldart | It's a 10/100 iirc |
| 04:32.34 | spldart | oh |
| 04:32.37 | L4m3r | I can stick this thing behind the router |
| 04:32.41 | L4m3r | I could DMZ it |
| 04:33.12 | L4m3r | I could plug it into a switch outside the router |
| 04:33.21 | spldart | My server is generaly always dmz'd.. After I changed to linux that has never been a problem |
| 04:33.29 | L4m3r | ...the internet here gives you an IP for every system you plug in |
| 04:33.38 | Lukstr | DMZ's the way to go |
| 04:34.12 | spldart | DMZ can still be dangerous though |
| 04:34.13 | L4m3r | this one actually has a gigabit card in it too... so I could theoretically have it inside and outside at the same time o_O |
| 04:34.22 | spldart | :) |
| 04:34.28 | Lukstr | aye, I usually give DMZ to something unimportant like the time server |
| 04:34.29 | spldart | that's not the easiest to setup |
| 04:34.30 | spldart | I know |
| 04:34.47 | JeffM | anyone got bzadmin? |
| 04:35.06 | spldart | bzadmin ? trunk windows? |
| 04:35.10 | L4m3r | for trunk? |
| 04:35.15 | JeffM | any of em |
| 04:35.18 | JeffM | even branch |
| 04:35.23 | spldart | yes |
| 04:35.26 | L4m3r | 2.0 I have |
| 04:35.32 | JeffM | does F6 fill in the ip or host when you try to ban someone? |
| 04:36.29 | spldart | like... type /ban (depress f6) ? |
| 04:36.37 | JeffM | https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=925494&group_id=3248&atid=103248 |
| 04:36.40 | JeffM | that bug |
| 04:36.48 | JeffM | I want to see if it is still valid |
| 04:37.31 | spldart | oh |
| 04:37.32 | L4m3r | does not seem to do anything in 2.0 |
| 04:37.46 | spldart | gimme a moment I'll tryt |
| 04:38.07 | JeffM | is it an invalid bug? |
| 04:38.12 | L4m3r | oh I see |
| 04:38.14 | L4m3r | it's working |
| 04:38.23 | JeffM | so I can close it? |
| 04:38.39 | L4m3r | fills in the IP for me |
| 04:38.48 | JeffM | good enough |
| 04:38.50 | JeffM | thanks |
| 04:38.51 | spldart | Oh... well there's your answer |
| 04:38.54 | spldart | :) |
| 04:39.36 | JeffM | awww yeah... one page of bugs :) |
| 04:42.01 | Lukstr | that's impressive |
| 04:42.22 | JeffM | it's not hard when many are from 2004 :) |
| 04:42.44 | spldart | is testing linux build now for latest svn up.. windows is good :) |
| 04:42.51 | spldart | Oh.. and that's some old bugs |
| 04:43.39 | JeffM | some of them are VERY supid |
| 04:43.53 | spldart | stupid even? :-) |
| 04:43.54 | JeffM | "I bound ALT + F4 but it quits bz |
| 04:43.58 | Lukstr | I like that Alt-F4 one |
| 04:43.59 | Lukstr | haha |
| 04:44.02 | JeffM | yeah |
| 04:44.03 | spldart | heahahaha |
| 04:44.08 | JeffM | not even sure if I should fix that one |
| 04:44.12 | Lukstr | JeffM: |
| 04:44.16 | Lukstr | I'm interested if that's actually a bug |
| 04:44.21 | Lukstr | can you ever *bind* it? |
| 04:44.26 | JeffM | you can |
| 04:44.33 | JeffM | manual entry into the config |
| 04:44.35 | Lukstr | so it'll actually say Alt+F4? |
| 04:44.43 | Lukstr | Oh well that's like asking for a sigkill |
| 04:44.53 | Lukstr | I'll fix it if you want though :P |
| 04:45.04 | JeffM | how woudl you fix it? |
| 04:46.22 | Lukstr | well wait |
| 04:46.28 | Lukstr | is there anyway to bind it in game? |
| 04:46.29 | spldart | uh huh |
| 04:46.42 | spldart | hehe |
| 04:47.01 | spldart | that uh huh should be up one line in sequence :-\ |
| 04:47.09 | L4m3r | spldart, if you've got a 2000+ pally laying around, or an 1800+ MP, or a matching pair of something else, I'd be willing to buy them for you :P |
| 04:47.18 | Lukstr | It doesn't seem like it, so there's no bug really |
| 04:47.20 | spldart | hehe |
| 04:47.57 | spldart | No MP's here.. I wil have an extra 1800 XP come available in a week or two. |
| 04:48.07 | spldart | possibly |
| 04:48.15 | JeffM | Lukstr: we can't change the windows behavor so we should not load the bind |
| 04:48.16 | Lukstr | JeffM: I wouldn't fix it :) |
| 04:48.20 | JeffM | for those that swap configs |
| 04:48.24 | JeffM | it's an easy fix |
| 04:48.43 | Lukstr | JeffM: This is a cross-platform problem though |
| 04:48.54 | spldart | it is? |
| 04:49.00 | Lukstr | ctrl+c is sigint in *nix systems |
| 04:49.03 | Lukstr | typically |
| 04:49.18 | JeffM | does it kill bzflag tho? |
| 04:49.20 | spldart | yeah |
| 04:49.20 | JeffM | if you bind it? |
| 04:49.27 | JeffM | then I need to do a platform thing |
| 04:49.29 | spldart | err |
| 04:49.31 | JeffM | "is valid key" |
| 04:49.34 | spldart | geez.. i'm too slow |
| 04:49.39 | Lukstr | JeffM: the user can change it though |
| 04:49.53 | JeffM | well that's up to you nixies to implement then |
| 04:50.01 | Lukstr | heh |
| 04:50.06 | Lukstr | instead of flat out exiting on alt+f4 |
| 04:50.14 | Lukstr | it should just say "Are you sure you want to quit" maybe |
| 04:50.23 | JeffM | we can't |
| 04:50.27 | JeffM | we don't controll that key |
| 04:50.30 | Lukstr | didn't think so |
| 04:50.31 | JeffM | windows just BAM kills us |
| 04:50.43 | JeffM | it sends the window a "die" message |
| 04:51.00 | Lukstr | well, fixing it's an idea, but why not play it by example and see what other sane games or apps do |
| 04:51.19 | JeffM | because that's a lot more time to waste on a stupid bug ;) |
| 04:51.46 | BulletCatcher | Alt+F4 is the default "close window" binding in the Motif Window Manager on unix. This seems to be the same type of situation. |
| 04:52.19 | Lukstr | Also, if anyone wants to bind the same keys to multiple applications, that's their problem |
| 04:52.31 | Lukstr | this seems like a sort of common sense thing |
| 04:52.38 | spldart | uh oh |
| 04:52.50 | JeffM | Lukstr: yes, but we should be nice to our users :) |
| 04:52.57 | JeffM | it's an easy thing to disallow it on windows |
| 04:53.05 | JeffM | and have a system to allow disallowed bindings per platform |
| 04:53.05 | Lukstr | JeffM: I wholeheartedly agree |
| 04:53.10 | JeffM | I'll hook that up and we'll be done |
| 04:53.12 | Lukstr | but what about the windows key? |
| 04:53.21 | spldart | got a nix warning for yah |
| 04:54.12 | spldart | http://pastebin.bzflag.bz/m59b6a88 |
| 04:54.47 | spldart | rev 17008 |
| 04:55.18 | spldart | windows was fine though iirc |
| 04:55.36 | Lukstr | spldart: is that a clean build? |
| 04:55.52 | spldart | make clean, autogen config --enable-debug make |
| 04:56.32 | spldart | sry about the missing coma's |
| 04:57.09 | JeffM | that's odd |
| 04:57.13 | JeffM | it's a singleton |
| 04:57.37 | spldart | If there is anything you want me to try lemme know |
| 04:58.12 | JeffM | that should not happen |
| 04:58.17 | JeffM | it's protected in a #def |
| 04:59.23 | spldart | ride the tiny little wave |
| 05:00.24 | spldart | I wouldn't be surprised if I messed something up on this machine in the last couple 3 days cuz I've been using it to fix other hdd's and etc.. but it doesn't seem likely. |
| 05:01.14 | spldart | wait.. a power outtage killed this machine mid operation this morning.. gonna shutdown -rF now now |
| 05:01.27 | Lukstr | hrms |
| 05:01.43 | CIA-14 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r17009 10/trunk/bzflag/src/game/CommandsStandard.cxx: Add a check for invalid keys for the host OS, and don't let them be bound if they are 'bad'. Only "alt+f4" is setup for windows at this time. |
| 05:01.46 | Lukstr | maybe BGTM is being used by something else |
| 05:02.10 | JeffM | spldart: you can't be clean |
| 05:02.45 | Lukstr | concurs! |
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| 05:03.17 | spldart | seriously.. I did svn up, make clean, ./autogen.sh, ./configure --enable-debug, make.. but I'm running a fsck on root file system now.. cuz of the unclean dismount from this morning |
| 05:03.28 | spldart | Perhaps I got bunked |
| 05:03.35 | L4m3r | random steps of the debian installer are failing... |
| 05:03.40 | spldart | fsck is almost done |
| 05:03.41 | L4m3r | I wonder if it's the crappy CD drive |
| 05:03.49 | L4m3r | or maybe artifacts from a cooked chip |
| 05:03.56 | spldart | AHAH!!! |
| 05:03.57 | JeffM | ok, who wants to test bzadmin again for me? https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1097284&group_id=3248&atid=103248 |
| 05:04.04 | spldart | I did have errors on /root |
| 05:04.08 | spldart | sry |
| 05:04.13 | spldart | I'll try again |
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| 05:04.38 | spldart | Dude some storms came through here this morning and the power was off and on over a dozen times |
| 05:04.58 | mib_k9w9lg | autopilot.cxx: if ((fabs(shotPos[2] - pos[2]) > BZDBCache::tankHeight) && (shot->getShotType() != GMShot)) //shouldn't it test for .5 more than tankHeight considering shotRadius? |
| 05:07.33 | mib_k9w9lg | n/join #bzw |
| 05:07.34 | Flash | JeffM: how did you want bzadmin tested? It works for me, but my machine isn't in DNS, so I can only try by "localhost" |
| 05:07.45 | JeffM | shots are conisdered points iIRC mib_k9w9lg |
| 05:07.58 | JeffM | Flash: I need someone with a real server |
| 05:08.24 | spldart | how does this test work? |
| 05:08.35 | JeffM | spldart: does your server have a domain name? |
| 05:08.39 | Flash | points spldart to the URL above |
| 05:08.41 | spldart | Oooop now |
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| 05:08.48 | spldart | nopers.. just a straight ip |
| 05:08.53 | JeffM | like ILoveBees.mydomin.com |
| 05:08.57 | spldart | 70.240.241.158 |
| 05:08.58 | JeffM | then that won't work |
| 05:09.02 | spldart | poop |
| 05:09.04 | JeffM | need a server with a dns |
| 05:09.12 | spldart | my bad |
| 05:09.29 | spldart | I heard dns but it didn't register |
| 05:11.00 | spldart | God.. I gotta get up in less than 5 hours but I don't wanna goto bed either... |
| 05:11.04 | Flash | In the Player class, how does my client know that your player is alive? |
| 05:11.25 | blast007 | JeffM: what do you need tested? |
| 05:11.41 | blast007 | I'm rebuilding my trunk server right now |
| 05:11.54 | JeffM | blast007: run bzadmin on the server and see if it can connect to the server via the public address |
| 05:11.57 | Lukstr | spldart: my rule of thumb is: anything less than 6 hours is pointless, and makes me more tired :) |
| 05:12.29 | blast007 | does it matter if I'm on the same physical system? |
| 05:12.33 | spldart | I have a punny response lukstr but it isn't appropriate for the channel ;) |
| 05:12.36 | blast007 | or should I try from a remote system? |
| 05:12.46 | Lukstr | spldart: there's always pm's :) |
| 05:12.55 | spldart | hehe |
| 05:13.04 | JeffM | blast007: the bug is for on the same physical system |
| 05:13.05 | Lukstr | or #puns |
| 05:13.11 | blast007 | ok |
| 05:13.16 | spldart | Your a gsoc applicant right? |
| 05:13.24 | blast007 | I'm using -i as well, if that matters |
| 05:13.33 | blast007 | I have it set to only listen on the main interface |
| 05:13.35 | JeffM | the bug dosn't mention that |
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| 05:13.42 | Lukstr | spldart: myself? |
| 05:13.42 | blast007 | k, I'll try both ways then |
| 05:13.46 | JeffM | just that it would not resolve |
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| 05:14.07 | spldart | yeah lukstr |
| 05:14.19 | Lukstr | aye, I is |
| 05:14.39 | blast007 | JeffM: works fine on my server |
| 05:14.52 | JeffM | thanks |
| 05:14.55 | spldart | Then no... it would not be appropriate on a different level |
| 05:15.01 | CIA-14 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r17010 10/trunk/bzflag/ (include/bzfsAPI.h src/bzfs/bzfsAPI.cxx): |
| 05:15.01 | CIA-14 | BZFlag: add bz_validAdminPassword to test if a password is good. |
| 05:15.01 | CIA-14 | BZFlag: http://my.bzflag.org/w/Bz_validAdminPassword for docs |
| 05:15.08 | spldart | Generally. not specifically |
| 05:15.17 | Lukstr | aww |
| 05:15.26 | Lukstr | I joined #puns for nothing! :) |
| 05:15.34 | spldart | hehe.. it wasn;'t that funny.. |
| 05:15.36 | spldart | lol |
| 05:16.08 | spldart | oh wow... my nix build is still producing errors |
| 05:16.23 | Lukstr | same ones? |
| 05:16.33 | JeffM | brlcad or JBD you guys around? |
| 05:16.41 | brlcad | yep |
| 05:16.51 | JeffM | is this crap mac drivers? |
| 05:16.52 | JeffM | https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1106933&group_id=3248&atid=103248 |
| 05:16.56 | JeffM | and can I close it? |
| 05:16.58 | JeffM | it's from 2005 |
| 05:17.00 | spldart | difff |
| 05:17.23 | spldart | http://pastebin.bzflag.bz/m5828b16 |
| 05:17.56 | Lukstr | oh lame |
| 05:17.57 | brlcad | no, it's valid .. happens when there's not enough memory |
| 05:17.58 | JeffM | spldart: ok that one is me |
| 05:17.59 | Flash | JeffM: I had seen that at some point in the past, but not recently (certainly not as of 2.0.10) |
| 05:18.08 | JeffM | brlcad: is there a fix? |
| 05:18.21 | JeffM | any rason to keep the bug open? |
| 05:18.30 | brlcad | we could put checks in the code |
| 05:18.31 | spldart | sry about the corrupted root dir false alarm earlier |
| 05:18.39 | brlcad | use lower res data |
| 05:19.07 | CIA-14 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r17011 10/trunk/bzflag/src/game/CommandsStandard.cxx: use the key to prevent a warning. |
| 05:19.15 | JeffM | brlcad: ok, asigning it to you then :) |
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| 05:19.55 | brlcad | I don't plan to fix it any time soon, but that doesn't mean it's not valid :) |
| 05:20.07 | JeffM | brlcad: you know the biggest thing that bugs me about the bug list? |
| 05:20.18 | JeffM | mikeeusa has 2 bugs on it, and I can't get rid of them |
| 05:20.18 | brlcad | not really |
| 05:20.22 | JeffM | cus they are prefectly valid |
| 05:20.28 | spldart | ok.. got builds goin on 17011 win and lin |
| 05:20.47 | brlcad | JeffM: why does that bother you? |
| 05:20.50 | brlcad | because it's him? |
| 05:20.54 | JeffM | yeah |
| 05:21.05 | JeffM | and I wanted to make the bug me bugs list pun :) |
| 05:21.13 | brlcad | heh |
| 05:21.47 | JeffM | wow 2005 was a very big year for bug reports |
| 05:22.41 | JeffM | at some point tomorow I'll need someones help seting up a server to test the replay bug |
| 05:22.49 | JeffM | since I have no clue how to do that |
| 05:22.58 | JeffM | but I have a hunch on why we have a bug in it |
| 05:23.44 | spldart | Mr. norang is good with replays :-) |
| 05:24.11 | JeffM | and spldart wonders why I wanted him to be a mentor. see you know everyone and waht they can do :) |
| 05:24.27 | spldart | hehe |
| 05:25.19 | Lukstr | he's the band manager of bzflag |
| 05:25.35 | Lukstr | maybe.... |
| 05:25.39 | spldart | maybe |
| 05:25.40 | Lukstr | okay I retract my analogy |
| 05:25.41 | spldart | heh |
| 05:26.04 | spldart | But Jeff and a few others do seem to be the beating heart of bzflag |
| 05:26.36 | JeffM | is a collon poylp |
| 05:26.48 | spldart | Oh freaking Geez dude! LOL |
| 05:26.52 | JeffM | heh |
| 05:27.06 | L4m3r | is the appendix |
| 05:27.08 | spldart | I told you about my over active imagination |
| 05:27.13 | JeffM | smell my finger |
| 05:27.17 | L4m3r | or maybe the coccyx |
| 05:27.18 | spldart | runs away |
| 05:27.28 | spldart | the puns! |
| 05:27.36 | blast007 | JeffM: I can set up a replay server, and my servers themself are set up to record already |
| 05:27.48 | JeffM | blast007: ok, not tonight tho |
| 05:27.53 | blast007 | k |
| 05:28.02 | JeffM | the bug is that a replay of a game with rico dosn't show rico |
| 05:28.12 | spldart | Well.. that's your hookup then.. I was gonna say thumper but they both can get your replay test on |
| 05:28.14 | JeffM | and I think it's because rico was pulled out of the game type and put into game options |
| 05:28.21 | JeffM | so it's not being packed right by the replay |
| 05:28.40 | spldart | Ah snap! I'm errored out again |
| 05:28.52 | *** join/#bzflag mcintyem (n=mcintyem@emm1.info) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 05:28.52 | *** join/#bzflag mib_k9w9lg (i=7decb05d@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c251cc20a703eb97) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 05:28.52 | *** join/#bzflag delusional_ (n=delusion@unaffiliated/delusional) |
| 05:29.19 | JeffM | now to write an HTML form in C++ to do auth for webreport |
| 05:29.42 | JeffM | unless anyone has an good ideas on how to do auth for it? |
| 05:29.43 | blast007 | does the plugin stuff support HTTPS, or just HTTP? |
| 05:29.52 | spldart | http://pastebin.bzflag.bz/ma86b332 |
| 05:29.53 | JeffM | just http |
| 05:29.57 | JeffM | remember I wrote it by hand |
| 05:30.00 | spldart | am I corrupted still? |
| 05:30.09 | blast007 | JeffM: make it use weblogin.php ;) |
| 05:30.14 | JeffM | spldart: yeah you got wierdness |
| 05:30.18 | JeffM | blast007: thought about that |
| 05:30.28 | JeffM | on connect, redirect to weblogin |
| 05:30.32 | Lukstr | spldart: did you update your OS? |
| 05:30.32 | JeffM | then use that to get a token |
| 05:30.38 | spldart | Ok.. I'm going rm -r this whol dir and checkout fresh |
| 05:30.47 | spldart | updated yesterday or the day before |
| 05:30.54 | JeffM | then add an api function to verify the token |
| 05:30.58 | JeffM | but that's kinda a pita |
| 05:30.58 | *** join/#bzflag mcintyem (n=mcintyem@emm1.info) |
| 05:31.06 | blast007 | yeah |
| 05:31.22 | JeffM | I'll just do server password for now |
| 05:31.27 | blast007 | can you do HTTP cookies? |
| 05:31.37 | JeffM | if they get writen :) |
| 05:31.44 | JeffM | we can do anything we write |
| 05:31.51 | Lukstr | spldart: what OS? |
| 05:31.56 | Lukstr | Ubuntu? |
| 05:32.23 | spldart | Debian |
| 05:32.24 | spldart | etch |
| 05:32.29 | spldart | and I'm worried |
| 05:32.30 | spldart | hehe |
| 05:33.19 | Lukstr | spldart: you might have a non-stable compiler |
| 05:33.23 | Lukstr | I see 4.1.2 there |
| 05:33.32 | Lukstr | I think 4.1.1's the current stable |
| 05:33.46 | spldart | I should be straight up stable... but I'll check... |
| 05:33.57 | spldart | goes to look at /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 05:34.52 | spldart | straight up etch main contrib and non-free |
| 05:35.21 | L4m3r | oh wow |
| 05:35.30 | L4m3r | nvidia-glx does not support the TNT2 |
| 05:35.59 | JeffM | L4m3r: yeah they desuprted that long ago |
| 05:36.01 | spldart | to old |
| 05:36.07 | JeffM | they have an older legacy driver for that |
| 05:36.13 | Lukstr | oh god TNT2.... |
| 05:36.28 | spldart | why do you want 3d on your server? |
| 05:36.37 | L4m3r | I don't |
| 05:36.43 | spldart | Just run X with nv or something |
| 05:36.49 | Lukstr | L4m3r: I will pay you to destroy that TNT2 |
| 05:36.55 | spldart | LOl |
| 05:37.00 | spldart | i'ts on board a dually |
| 05:37.07 | L4m3r | but that little bit of hardware accel makes a gui run nicer |
| 05:37.10 | L4m3r | no, not onboard |
| 05:37.13 | L4m3r | AGP |
| 05:37.19 | spldart | oh really/. |
| 05:37.25 | Lukstr | the card was the bane of my younger computing years. |
| 05:37.36 | spldart | You only need 2 d to make x run fine.. and play videos |
| 05:37.41 | JeffM | I loved my TNT |
| 05:37.46 | L4m3r | Lukstr: if you send a replacement, I will destroy it and record it on video :P |
| 05:37.52 | JeffM | the TNT2 replaced my old permedia 2 |
| 05:37.55 | spldart | tnt has treated me well in my limited experience |
| 05:37.58 | blast007 | L4m3r: you can get an older driver from nVidia directly that will work for the TNT2 |
| 05:37.59 | Lukstr | L4m3r: I have a replacement right here actually |
| 05:38.13 | L4m3r | nv should work well enough |
| 05:38.25 | Lukstr | unfortunately I could just destroy mine for equal satisfaction, and less the cost of shipping |
| 05:40.01 | spldart | I can't remember.. research the appropriate Xserver xorg driver for that card |
| 05:40.12 | spldart | 2d motion comp is all yah need :) |
| 05:41.05 | L4m3r | hehe |
| 05:41.11 | L4m3r | "error intializing the sound driver |
| 05:41.21 | spldart | mine is ac97 iirc |
| 05:41.28 | L4m3r | this one has none |
| 05:41.36 | spldart | But I'm not rebooting to list modules! :-p |
| 05:42.12 | L4m3r | hm......... |
| 05:42.19 | L4m3r | I could steal a sound card from the pile |
| 05:42.24 | L4m3r | there were a few ancient ones in there |
| 05:42.26 | spldart | w0rd |
| 05:42.36 | L4m3r | you know, the ones with game ports |
| 05:42.40 | spldart | if your interested in how well vid graphic work then yuou need sound |
| 05:42.46 | Lukstr | L4m3r: I have way too many of those |
| 05:42.56 | spldart | is too tired... |
| 05:43.13 | L4m3r | see, rather than hoarding a ton of useless parts, I just take what I need out of the garbage |
| 05:43.30 | Lukstr | L4m3r: garbage is not as readily accessable to me :) |
| 05:43.37 | Lukstr | also, this stuff is fun to desolder. |
| 05:43.47 | spldart | I take everyting I can get and send bits and pieces to other peeps when I decide that I need to thin out the junk pyle :-D |
| 05:44.20 | L4m3r | garbage was not easily accessible to me |
| 05:44.30 | L4m3r | then I saw that cheiftec case, and took some pictures |
| 05:44.55 | L4m3r | someone passing by saw me and told me to go talk to a certain person, say that he sent me, and I would be let into the cage |
| 05:45.09 | L4m3r | I did, and the guy just gave me the lock combo ;) |
| 05:45.23 | spldart | shweeet |
| 05:46.01 | Lukstr | spldart: Anyways, that error is spurious and bizarre unless you can reproduce it on another machine |
| 05:46.24 | Lukstr | checks for spelling mistakes |
| 05:46.48 | spldart | I'm working in a fresh dir with fresh checkout now... it it failes again I'm calling it a night and tomorrow I'll reboot THiS machine and try to build here instead |
| 05:48.17 | Lukstr | JeffM: Curious as I am, I don't quite understand why you #define'd BGTM to BackgroundTaskManager::instance() |
| 05:48.37 | JeffM | so I could do BGTM.heyYa(); |
| 05:48.39 | spldart | But your right g++ (GCC) 4.1.2 20061115 (prerelease) (Debian 4.1.1-21) |
| 05:48.47 | JeffM | anywhere |
| 05:48.52 | Lukstr | right |
| 05:48.57 | Lukstr | but you don't currently? |
| 05:49.01 | JeffM | we do the same for BZDB, and sme others |
| 05:49.11 | JeffM | I did in commands |
| 05:49.11 | Lukstr | i.e. you don't currently use the macro anywhere |
| 05:49.18 | Lukstr | ah |
| 05:49.36 | JeffM | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:50.25 | JeffM | the awesomeness is that the BGTM is self sufficent and dosn't need any other hooks into the app other then the calls to add tasks :) |
| 05:50.42 | Lukstr | heh |
| 05:50.44 | Lukstr | sexy |
| 05:50.58 | JeffM | lubs the api |
| 05:52.53 | spldart | linux build looks more successful so far...... |
| 05:53.13 | Lukstr | spldart: what'd you change? |
| 05:53.16 | Lukstr | compiler? |
| 05:53.23 | Lukstr | oh, |
| 05:53.27 | Lukstr | nvm me :P |
| 05:53.32 | spldart | hehe |
| 05:53.37 | spldart | I think it's almost done |
| 05:53.54 | spldart | crap! |
| 05:54.01 | spldart | it grenaded again... I'm done tonight |
| 05:54.15 | Lukstr | same place as always? |
| 05:54.16 | spldart | same error as the previous bunk one |
| 05:54.21 | Lukstr | okie |
| 05:54.41 | spldart | I must have hosed it.. or perhaps the power flashes hosed it worse than I thought. |
| 05:54.51 | spldart | I'll try on this machine tomorrow morning |
| 05:54.55 | spldart | Nighty night |
| 05:55.33 | Lukstr | Wait |
| 05:55.36 | Lukstr | still there? :P |
| 05:55.55 | short_circuit | umm.. not really :-p |
| 05:56.09 | short_circuit | it's shutdown |
| 05:56.19 | Lukstr | oh haha |
| 05:56.23 | Lukstr | I think I know what the problem is |
| 05:56.28 | short_circuit | what? |
| 05:56.49 | Lukstr | BackgroundTask.h:60 #define BGTM BackgroundTaskManager::instance() |
| 05:56.54 | Lukstr | might need brackets around it |
| 05:57.00 | JeffM | huh? |
| 05:57.04 | JeffM | it's a define |
| 05:57.14 | Lukstr | as in (BackgroundTaskManager::instance()) |
| 05:57.29 | JeffM | wow your compiler sucks |
| 05:57.35 | Lukstr | yeah |
| 05:57.42 | Lukstr | it sure seems that way |
| 05:57.47 | Lukstr | but disambiguity never hurts :P |
| 05:57.57 | JeffM | is that what is done for BZDB? |
| 05:58.04 | Lukstr | yes,. |
| 05:58.08 | Lukstr | s/,// |
| 05:58.10 | JeffM | then do it |
| 05:58.23 | Lukstr | heh, submit a patch? |
| 05:58.24 | JeffM | or I will in a sec |
| 05:58.28 | JeffM | after I install a think |
| 05:58.28 | JeffM | naw |
| 05:58.32 | Lukstr | hehe |
| 05:58.42 | short_circuit | will test any patch related to this tomorrow :) |
| 05:58.43 | JeffM | I'm just installing vissual assist in VC7.1 |
| 05:58.46 | short_circuit | I'm off |
| 05:58.49 | JeffM | see ya |
| 05:58.51 | Lukstr | night |
| 06:00.00 | blast007 | weee: http://pastebin.bzflag.bz/d11afefaf |
| 06:00.18 | Lukstr | heh |
| 06:00.35 | JeffM | blast007: put ( ) around the stuff after the #def BGTM |
| 06:00.39 | Lukstr | blast007: try changing line 60 (see up 15 lines) |
| 06:00.41 | blast007 | already tried, didn't work |
| 06:00.48 | Lukstr | interesting. |
| 06:00.51 | Lukstr | hrmz. |
| 06:00.55 | Lukstr | powers up his laptop |
| 06:01.00 | JeffM | then screw your compiler ;) |
| 06:01.15 | Lukstr | I'll figure this out! |
| 06:05.12 | BulletCatcher | JeffM: your fix to the defines in ObstacleMgr.h seems to have resolved a couple of other undocumented problems. |
| 06:05.15 | BulletCatcher | I no longer get the "Unable to position flags on this world." messages when starting the server. |
| 06:05.19 | BulletCatcher | Also, boxes are once again safe surfaces for team flags. |
| 06:05.25 | BulletCatcher | The bad news is that is still a weird drivethrough bug. http://pastebin.bzflag.bz/m33554a1e has a small demonstration map. |
| 06:05.35 | Flash | it doesn't look like F12 on the client sends a disconnect message to the server |
| 06:05.47 | JeffM | yeah they had problems |
| 06:05.52 | JeffM | all the IDs were off by one |
| 06:06.00 | JeffM | so they were getting the wrong tangability |
| 06:06.11 | JeffM | BulletCatcher: I can't look at it now |
| 06:06.14 | JeffM | feel free to debug |
| 06:06.14 | BulletCatcher | ok |
| 06:11.48 | CIA-14 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r17012 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/plugin_utils/ (plugin_HTTP.cpp plugin_HTTP.h): parameter processing |
| 06:12.19 | CIA-14 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r17013 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/webReport/webReport.cpp: require the server password to give out reports. |
| 06:12.34 | CIA-14 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r17014 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/webReport/webReport.vcproj: use the main link lib from the root. |
| 06:13.43 | JeffM | BulletCatcher: it's probably some issue with the object IDs |
| 06:14.11 | JeffM | start debuging at the ClientIntangiblityManager |
| 06:14.24 | JeffM | it has a method that is called to get the drive thru on any object |
| 06:14.30 | JeffM | I'll be it's grabing the wrong one by ID |
| 06:14.33 | JeffM | or something |
| 06:14.49 | BulletCatcher | looking... |
| 06:15.11 | JeffM | shootthru dosn't use the manager or the IDs |
| 06:15.21 | L4m3r | weee, X over SSH |
| 06:17.48 | JeffM | you want unsigned char ClientIntangibilityManager::getWorldObjectTangibility ( unsigned int objectGUID ) |
| 06:20.21 | mib_k9w9lg | can world weapon GMshots lock on players? |
| 06:21.07 | JeffM | no |
| 06:21.17 | JeffM | not untill the GM updates go server side |
| 06:21.22 | JeffM | and that is in progress |
| 06:28.37 | blast007 | hmm, thought there was something that mofo had run on 2.0.x that did it... |
| 06:30.20 | JeffM | the client generates the updates |
| 06:30.27 | JeffM | you coudl do it with a bot |
| 06:30.32 | JeffM | or probalby chron |
| 06:30.36 | JeffM | cus it's a "player" |
| 06:31.21 | blast007 | hmm |
| 06:31.33 | blast007 | maybe they modified bzfs too |
| 06:31.40 | JeffM | that would work as well |
| 06:31.49 | JeffM | as long as something sends out updates |
| 06:31.50 | Lukstr | where are object tangibilities set (that is, where is setWorldObjectTangibility called?) I can't seem to grep it |
| 06:32.14 | JeffM | handleTangUpdate |
| 06:32.45 | JeffM | CTRL + SHIFT + F FTW:) |
| 06:33.11 | JeffM | by default no objects are in the manager's list |
| 06:33.15 | JeffM | it is only an overide |
| 06:33.35 | Lukstr | so they're not populated? |
| 06:33.42 | JeffM | basicly |
| 06:33.53 | JeffM | if it dosnt' find it in the local map, it checks the actual object |
| 06:34.07 | JeffM | the idea is, a message can set the overide |
| 06:34.12 | JeffM | in real time |
| 06:34.12 | Lukstr | ahhh |
| 06:34.13 | Lukstr | I get it |
| 06:34.15 | Lukstr | golden |
| 06:34.21 | JeffM | so you can have plugins that turn stuff on and off |
| 06:34.24 | JeffM | aka, doors |
| 06:35.03 | Lukstr | d'oh: I just realized I'd been searching .h and .c files |
| 06:35.04 | JeffM | the goal was to combine it with a dynamic material change |
| 06:35.04 | Lukstr | :P |
| 06:35.09 | Lukstr | old habits die hard |
| 06:35.12 | JeffM | then you can do forcefields |
| 06:35.19 | Lukstr | makes sense |
| 06:35.35 | JeffM | Lukstr: get an IDE that has nice things like 'goto' buttons, and "find in entire project" ;) |
| 06:38.37 | Lukstr | no no no |
| 06:38.41 | Lukstr | that's just silly! |
| 06:38.43 | JeffM | yes yes yes ;) |
| 06:38.56 | JeffM | press f5 and get a realy freaking good debuger |
| 06:39.00 | javawizard2539 | Lukstr, what IDE are you using? |
| 06:39.07 | Lukstr | bash |
| 06:39.17 | Lukstr | + vim |
| 06:39.18 | Lukstr | :D |
| 06:39.31 | javawizard2539 | On linux? |
| 06:39.34 | Lukstr | yes |
| 06:39.45 | javawizard2539 | Someone should get around to porting msvc to linux |
| 06:39.52 | javawizard2539 | If microsoft would actually give out the source code |
| 06:39.57 | Lukstr | eh, I use bash + vim on windows too :P |
| 06:40.08 | Lukstr | as part of mingw |
| 06:40.12 | JeffM | kdev isn't bad |
| 06:40.20 | javawizard2539 | You got it to compile on mingw? |
| 06:40.25 | JeffM | and I don't think msvc would "port"? |
| 06:40.30 | javawizard2539 | That's what I've been trying to do for ages |
| 06:40.31 | JeffM | you can run it in wine |
| 06:40.33 | Lukstr | javawizard2539: no, in regards to development in general |
| 06:40.38 | javawizard2539 | darn |
| 06:41.45 | Lukstr | it's just the build system, no alternative to autogen |
| 06:41.58 | JeffM | sure there is |
| 06:42.04 | javawizard2539 | I mean, I've got cygwin, mingw, msys installed, nothing works except for msvc |
| 06:42.06 | JeffM | MSVC 2005 EE :) |
| 06:42.10 | Lukstr | exactly |
| 06:42.19 | javawizard2539 | I much prefer Eclipse over msvc when it actually works |
| 06:42.36 | javawizard2539 | sighs |
| 06:42.53 | Lukstr | javawizard2539: making bzflag work with mingw would take a long time, and you'd need to write a lot of makefiles, or copy them from a configured *nix source |
| 06:43.01 | Lukstr | there's no easy or clean way to do it |
| 06:43.16 | javawizard2539 | Oh well |
| 06:43.21 | JeffM | we are suposed to work under mingw |
| 06:43.21 | javawizard2539 | guess I'll stick with msvc |
| 06:43.28 | javawizard2539 | We don't |
| 06:43.29 | JeffM | so I don't belive that much work has to be done |
| 06:43.32 | Lukstr | Really? |
| 06:43.34 | JeffM | the trick is getting your stuff setup right |
| 06:43.35 | JeffM | yes |
| 06:43.38 | DTRemenak | javawizard2539: mingw should build cleanly. if it doesn't, post build logs please |
| 06:43.41 | JeffM | it has been built in the past |
| 06:43.44 | JeffM | see ;) |
| 06:43.52 | javawizard2539 | DTRemenak, I will |
| 06:44.01 | JeffM | most often the problems I see is config on the end users side |
| 06:44.07 | DTRemenak | or I guess I could set it up again :S |
| 06:44.11 | javawizard2539 | I'm out tonight (it's around 1), but I'll do it tomorrow |
| 06:44.24 | Lukstr | JeffM: never are two mingw install configured exactly the same ;) |
| 06:44.29 | DTRemenak | so true |
| 06:44.48 | DTRemenak | it's like building on linux...no real repeatability between systems |
| 06:44.55 | JeffM | Lukstr: and yet you al keep trying to do this over a nice easy VC install ;) |
| 06:45.07 | Lukstr | more fun :) |
| 06:45.28 | JeffM | I have more fun fixing bugs instead of fighting a build system :) |
| 06:45.40 | Lukstr | besides, I wouldn't use VC on my own time, learning it would be counter productive |
| 06:45.43 | JeffM | thinks he's done enought oday |
| 06:45.59 | Lukstr | I'd rather learn how to cope with the tools I use often so that future windows development I may do is easier |
| 06:46.06 | javawizard2539 | Is anyone else actually east or on MDT? |
| 06:46.20 | Lukstr | EST here, if that's what you're asking |
| 06:46.21 | javawizard2539 | Or am I the latest up? |
| 06:46.23 | DTRemenak | what are you planning to do as a career, Lukstr? |
| 06:46.31 | Lukstr | DTRemenak: I have no idea, really. |
| 06:46.31 | javawizard2539 | Good gravy train, that's late |
| 06:46.52 | Lukstr | Maybe teach :D |
| 06:47.00 | DTRemenak | 'cause if it involves windows development (as 90% of desktop and maybe 50% of server dev does), you'll almost certainly be expected to know msvc :) |
| 06:47.23 | Lukstr | DTRemenak: I doubt I'll be doing heavy-software related stuff as a career. |
| 06:47.37 | Lukstr | It is part of my program |
| 06:47.37 | JeffM | and it will be the rare company that lets you pick your own tools |
| 06:48.04 | JeffM | DTRemenak is lucky enough to be able to use C# at work :) |
| 06:48.06 | Lukstr | JeffM: heh, this is true. Co-workers used to shun me when I opened generic files in VIM instead of Notepad |
| 06:48.11 | DTRemenak | notes that he uses tools that none of his coworkers do :) |
| 06:48.28 | Lukstr | DTRemenak: what do you develop for? |
| 06:48.34 | JeffM | DTRemenak: yes and we all moc you, but that's for your own stuff outside of your VC work |
| 06:48.38 | DTRemenak | vim rocks. don't get me wrong, I'm not a vc evangelist :) |
| 06:48.56 | DTRemenak | just reality that comes up in commercial software dev |
| 06:49.01 | DTRemenak | Lukstr: http://www.gibbscam.com |
| 06:49.05 | JeffM | yeah, it is pervasive |
| 06:49.16 | JeffM | DTRemenak: I dunno man.. you made the cool add-in for VC |
| 06:49.22 | JeffM | it has tainted you |
| 06:49.24 | DTRemenak | hah |
| 06:49.28 | Lukstr | Where I last worked they actually used MSVS ontop of a linux-like platform |
| 06:49.30 | Lukstr | it was bizarre |
| 06:49.33 | DTRemenak | that was just so you wouldn't screw up my precious whitespace :) |
| 06:49.47 | JeffM | we need to get that out on monday to any SoCers that use VC |
| 06:49.55 | DTRemenak | and c'mon, it actually reads the ex: lines that we put in FOR vim :) |
| 06:50.03 | Lukstr | hehe |
| 06:50.05 | JeffM | DTRemenak: migration tool ;) |
| 06:50.07 | DTRemenak | is all about the interoperability |
| 06:50.13 | DTRemenak | migration works both directions :) |
| 06:50.25 | Lukstr | VIM will probably outlive microsoft :) |
| 06:50.28 | JeffM | then build a copy of nmake for gcc |
| 06:50.42 | DTRemenak | interop lets people use whatever they need or want, and switch based on merits rather than legacy requirements |
| 06:50.50 | Lukstr | what does nmake have to do with gcc? |
| 06:50.55 | DTRemenak | and I'm all down for selecting tools based on merits |
| 06:51.02 | JeffM | it could read vc projects |
| 06:51.07 | JeffM | and compile them for nix |
| 06:51.10 | JeffM | that'd be awesome |
| 06:51.14 | Lukstr | you could do it |
| 06:51.22 | DTRemenak | I'd be more likely to try for a tool that builds vc projects out of the autotools files |
| 06:51.23 | JeffM | yeah probably |
| 06:51.24 | Lukstr | you just need to teach nmake to use gcc |
| 06:51.35 | Lukstr | I doubt it would be that difficult |
| 06:51.38 | JeffM | what was it called? gmake? |
| 06:51.43 | DTRemenak | cmake |
| 06:51.46 | JeffM | whatever OSG uses |
| 06:51.48 | DTRemenak | cmake does most of it |
| 06:51.48 | JeffM | that's it |
| 06:51.49 | JeffM | yeah |
| 06:51.50 | DTRemenak | yeah |
| 06:51.53 | JeffM | great idea |
| 06:51.57 | Lukstr | cmake's nice |
| 06:51.57 | JeffM | HORIBLE interface |
| 06:51.59 | DTRemenak | OSG's build system is WHACK though |
| 06:52.05 | Lukstr | hahah |
| 06:52.44 | javawizard2539 | JeffM, random question, where did you get the t-shirts manufactured? |
| 06:52.52 | JeffM | yay.. even documented my new API method |
| 06:53.05 | JeffM | javawizard2539: a company back east somewhere |
| 06:53.09 | JeffM | logodogz |
| 06:53.19 | blast007 | cmake wasn't that bad |
| 06:53.36 | blast007 | agreed that it could have a MUCH nicer interface |
| 06:53.39 | JeffM | http://www.logodogzprintz.com/ |
| 06:53.48 | JeffM | and osg could have done it better |
| 06:54.46 | Lukstr | how dissimilar is nmake from make? |
| 06:54.59 | DTRemenak | nmake is crippled |
| 06:55.05 | DTRemenak | and closed-source |
| 06:55.09 | DTRemenak | worst make ever |
| 06:55.20 | Lukstr | are target rules hardcoded for the compiler? |
| 06:55.31 | DTRemenak | don't remember |
| 06:55.37 | Lukstr | hm |
| 06:55.41 | DTRemenak | I tried to forget as much as possible about it :) |
| 06:55.44 | DTRemenak | msbuild FTW! |
| 06:56.02 | Lukstr | As long as you could override .cxx/.o/etc. targets, it'd probably work with gcc |
| 06:56.06 | JeffM | what'd be cool is if cmake could detect deltas in vc files and back those changes (file adds, etc.. ) into the cmake system |
| 06:56.34 | Lukstr | woah |
| 06:56.35 | JeffM | perhaps by using local svn or something |
| 06:57.02 | Lukstr | seems a little beyond it's scope :P |
| 06:57.04 | JeffM | basicly let everyone work in there native environment and infer the changes |
| 06:57.13 | JeffM | ok then some new system :) |
| 06:57.15 | Lukstr | isn't that what svn update does? |
| 06:57.38 | DTRemenak | JeffM: how about a graphical editor for autotools files instead? |
| 06:57.38 | JeffM | svn update can't see that I added a file to the vc project and add the same file to the gcc makefiles |
| 06:57.41 | JeffM | or vise versa |
| 06:57.50 | DTRemenak | that automatically runs cmake afterwards |
| 06:57.55 | JeffM | DTRemenak: maybe |
| 06:58.00 | Lukstr | Oh boy, if only VC was as flexible as Make :P |
| 06:58.04 | JeffM | it'd still be nice to be integrated |
| 06:58.09 | JeffM | maybe if that interface was a VC addin |
| 06:58.12 | DTRemenak | VC is amazingly flexible |
| 06:58.22 | JeffM | the svn addin knows when files were added, etc.. |
| 06:58.30 | DTRemenak | it's just a bit arcane to figure out how to do some of the more amazing stuff :) |
| 06:58.36 | Lukstr | can you redefine every single VC command to call Make? :P |
| 06:58.41 | DTRemenak | sure |
| 06:58.44 | DTRemenak | custom build events |
| 06:58.45 | Lukstr | then why not do that :P |
| 06:58.59 | DTRemenak | could, I suppose |
| 06:59.01 | JeffM | cus the setting up the install would be horible |
| 06:59.04 | JeffM | and pointless |
| 06:59.05 | DTRemenak | better than using nmake |
| 06:59.06 | Lukstr | if you could convince VC to run a makefile on a new file, etc. |
| 06:59.24 | Lukstr | Well there's no win-win for cross platform :P |
| 06:59.25 | DTRemenak | and yeah, not much point to it |
| 06:59.31 | JeffM | DTRemenak's idea of having the addin just run cmake is fine |
| 06:59.37 | JeffM | then it all gets update |
| 06:59.52 | DTRemenak | is not really willing to put in the effort at this point though |
| 07:00.00 | DTRemenak | it's easy enough to just edit both sets of files |
| 07:00.08 | JeffM | the compiler VC uses isn't the problem it's keeping data in sync |
| 07:00.17 | JeffM | yeah we have done it for how many years now? |
| 07:00.25 | Flash | ok, I got my robots on the screen, but they are NR |
| 07:00.47 | Flash | they don't know that, though, 'cause they keep shooting |
| 07:00.47 | Lukstr | JeffM: wouldn't the easier thing to do be write a macro for 'svn ci' |
| 07:00.51 | DTRemenak | you know better than I do :) |
| 07:00.55 | Lukstr | and have it find new files and svn add them? |
| 07:00.59 | JeffM | Lukstr: we add files so rarely |
| 07:01.31 | Flash | also, I noticed that all robots spawn on top of each other |
| 07:01.35 | JeffM | so no, it'd be harder to get the windows people to set up extended toolchains then it would be to just beat "add your files to this make" |
| 07:02.00 | Lukstr | ohh you mean that side of it |
| 07:02.06 | JeffM | that's all we need |
| 07:02.07 | JeffM | is the files |
| 07:02.11 | DTRemenak | heh... "Oh joy, you do not have c:/mingw/bin/make.exe. Keep it that way." |
| 07:02.28 | JeffM | the rest is just compiler diffs |
| 07:02.34 | JeffM | and those are just going to happen |
| 07:02.36 | Lukstr | DTRemenak: that sounds really familiar |
| 07:02.50 | JeffM | a shadow detector VC add-in would be nice |
| 07:02.50 | DTRemenak | msys normalizer |
| 07:03.02 | Lukstr | ahh |
| 07:03.04 | DTRemenak | yeah, it would |
| 07:03.10 | DTRemenak | but hooking into the parser is...wierd |
| 07:03.16 | JeffM | yeah |
| 07:03.22 | JeffM | shadows and unused |
| 07:03.34 | DTRemenak | though I might be able to just elevate the level 4 warnings for those to level 3 |
| 07:03.52 | DTRemenak | that'd be totally hackish |
| 07:04.04 | JeffM | perhaps there is a paragma to do that :) |
| 07:04.12 | JeffM | add it to config |
| 07:04.40 | Lukstr | These are reasons I think Microsoft products are completely terrible: You always have to struggle to do something that should be trivial. |
| 07:04.52 | JeffM | Lukstr: like? |
| 07:04.59 | Lukstr | well, what you just described |
| 07:05.07 | JeffM | it personaly dosn't care about them |
| 07:05.13 | JeffM | it's only when dealing with others |
| 07:05.27 | DTRemenak | interoperability suffers when using microsoft products |
| 07:05.33 | JeffM | yeah |
| 07:05.38 | JeffM | but doing stuff in them, for them |
| 07:05.41 | JeffM | is generaly prety easy |
| 07:05.49 | JeffM | if you don't try to think of it in linux terms |
| 07:05.51 | DTRemenak | yeah, they only care about making stuff easy for pure-microsoft shops |
| 07:06.00 | Lukstr | I don't like the fact that I don't know exactly what's going on behind the scene |
| 07:06.05 | Lukstr | unlike hand-writing make files :P |
| 07:06.07 | DTRemenak | it's all documented |
| 07:06.26 | JeffM | and you can see the full command line options for the compiler |
| 07:06.35 | DTRemenak | and you can have it spill full build logs, with the command lines used for each command, if you so desire |
| 07:06.51 | DTRemenak | that's just WAY more verbose than most people care to see |
| 07:06.52 | JeffM | /Od /I "..\..\include" /I "..\..\win32" /I ".\\" /I "..\..\src\other\zlib\\" /I "..\..\src\other\curl\include" /D "_WINDOWS" /D "WIN32" /D "_DEBUG" /D "BROKEN_DINPUT" /D "_VC80_UPGRADE=0x0710" /D "_MBCS" /FD /EHsc /RTC1 /MDd /Fp"./bzflag_debug/bzflag.pch" /Fo"./bzflag_debug/debug/" /Fd"./bzflag_debug/debug/" /W3 /nologo /c /Wp64 /ZI /errorReport:prompt |
| 07:06.56 | Lukstr | but I can just type all of that in a few lines in a file |
| 07:07.07 | JeffM | Lukstr: and I can hit F7 ;) |
| 07:07.16 | DTRemenak | different people work different ways |
| 07:07.19 | Lukstr | and then all I need to do is say "make" |
| 07:07.21 | JeffM | and hit a button |
| 07:07.24 | DTRemenak | JeffM is not so hot on the typing :) |
| 07:07.32 | Lukstr | which is bound to F7 in Vim anyways :P |
| 07:07.34 | DTRemenak | prefers this gadget he calls a mouse |
| 07:07.36 | JeffM | if I had to do command line, I'd not be here |
| 07:07.38 | Lukstr | Oh man he'd HATE vim |
| 07:07.43 | DTRemenak | yeah |
| 07:07.47 | DTRemenak | he does :) |
| 07:07.49 | JeffM | Lukstr: I can use vim |
| 07:07.52 | JeffM | and have in the past |
| 07:08.00 | DTRemenak | but you avoid it when possible |
| 07:08.05 | JeffM | DTRemenak: yep |
| 07:08.14 | Lukstr | JeffM: But you're not an addict until you do everything with the keyboard |
| 07:08.22 | JeffM | in genreal I avoid the bsd system when possible |
| 07:08.31 | DTRemenak | not everyone wants to do everything with the keyboard, Lukstr |
| 07:08.43 | JeffM | Lukstr: why should I? an input device from the start of the last centry is not the end all/be all ;) |
| 07:08.43 | Lukstr | I used notepad today for the first time in months and must've typed "dd" fifty times |
| 07:09.01 | JeffM | the keyboard is designed to make you type slower |
| 07:09.04 | Lukstr | DTRemenak: no, I know. To each his own, I have no gripes with anyone who thinks different |
| 07:09.17 | DTRemenak | JeffM: learn dvorak! :) |
| 07:09.18 | Lukstr | I just find my productivity, personally, is increased when I don't have to use the mouse as often :P |
| 07:09.28 | JeffM | DTRemenak: I've pondered it |
| 07:09.36 | JeffM | but I have enough finger coordination issues now |
| 07:09.43 | DTRemenak | I agree. I hate having to take my hand off the keyboard to do something. JeffM prefers not to take his hand off the mouse. |
| 07:09.48 | DTRemenak | different strokes and all |
| 07:09.55 | Lukstr | I also use a laptop often, which has a pretty terrible touch pad which is often disabled |
| 07:09.57 | JeffM | one hand on the mouse, one on the keyboard |
| 07:10.22 | JeffM | if I could retrain myself, that one handed chording handboard things woudl be awesome |
| 07:10.27 | JeffM | never pick up ether hand :) |
| 07:10.42 | Lukstr | I guess more motivation is that in the CIS labs at school, the mice/keyboards are generally pretty dirty, so I like to avoid my palms touching anything :D |
| 07:10.52 | JeffM | heh |
| 07:10.53 | Lukstr | hehe |
| 07:10.54 | JeffM | students |
| 07:10.59 | Lukstr | it's pretty gross |
| 07:11.04 | JeffM | I'm sure it is |
| 07:11.14 | JeffM | but it's such a small part of your total life ( the time you spend in school) |
| 07:11.51 | Lukstr | We have these new Sun terminals now though |
| 07:12.00 | Lukstr | all Apple-White |
| 07:12.12 | Lukstr | I doubt it'll last long |
| 07:13.02 | BulletCatcher | JeffM: I have not made any progress on the drivethrough problem. I have looked several places but I see nothing that even looks suspicious. |
| 07:13.16 | JeffM | BulletCatcher: have you stepd thru in a debuger? |
| 07:13.22 | JeffM | and seen why it lets you go thru? |
| 07:13.33 | Lukstr | BulletCatcher: you say you can only shoot through one of the boxes? |
| 07:13.42 | JeffM | shootthru isn't th issue |
| 07:13.48 | JeffM | they use totaly differnet systems |
| 07:13.54 | BulletCatcher | Haven't used the debugger. |
| 07:14.01 | JeffM | BulletCatcher: same on the man |
| 07:14.12 | JeffM | breakpoints big guy... breakpoints! |
| 07:14.16 | Lukstr | well, I'm thinking why not test and see if you flip the box order in the file, if anything changes :D |
| 07:14.20 | JeffM | step on thru and see what the data is for those objects |
| 07:14.30 | JeffM | like I said, I'm guessing the IDs are wrong |
| 07:14.33 | Lukstr | yeah |
| 07:14.54 | Lukstr | I'm working on fixing the build for gcc though :P |
| 07:14.57 | JeffM | I'm betting order will change it |
| 07:15.09 | JeffM | Lukstr: take out the macro |
| 07:15.13 | JeffM | end of story |
| 07:15.19 | Lukstr | no fun |
| 07:16.04 | JeffM | well I'm off to bed, I can look at it tomroow BulletCatcher |
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| 07:16.15 | BulletCatcher | Putting drivthrough on the first box makes them both drivethrough; putting it on the second makes neither of them. |
| 07:16.21 | BulletCatcher | 'night |
| 07:16.24 | Lukstr | night |
| 07:16.26 | JeffM | yeah it's ID stuff |
| 07:16.41 | JeffM | put a breakpoint on getWorldObjectTangibility and see how it's making IDs |
| 07:16.48 | JeffM | gut feeling says the item ID is off by one |
| 07:17.00 | JeffM | the typeID was off by one for the last problem |
| 07:17.08 | Flash | ok, I have a strong suspicion that I know what's wrong with the robot stuff, but it's probably a bigger change than I want to make tonight |
| 07:17.09 | BulletCatcher | I'll try. Gonna have to learn gdb. :-o |
| 07:17.22 | JeffM | yes you will |
| 07:17.28 | Flash | in branch, each robot had their own ServerLink instance |
| 07:17.32 | JeffM | it's a needed tool |
| 07:17.33 | Flash | in trunk, there is only one |
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| 07:17.37 | JeffM | Flash: yep |
| 07:17.40 | DTRemenak | learning gdb will pay for itself manyfold |
| 07:17.52 | JeffM | that was the change I told you about that happened in december of 06 |
| 07:18.39 | Flash | also, when I coerced my robots to be alive, they are below the ground |
| 07:18.58 | Flash | DTRemenak: was that directed at me? |
| 07:19.08 | JeffM | no |
| 07:19.12 | DTRemenak | mp |
| 07:19.14 | DTRemenak | err |
| 07:19.16 | DTRemenak | no |
| 07:19.19 | Flash | ok |
| 07:19.22 | DTRemenak | puts his hands on the right keys |
| 07:19.25 | JeffM | you, need to learn svn and see how to do diffs ;) |
| 07:19.40 | Flash | JeffM: the first challenge is figuring out what does what |
| 07:19.59 | Flash | looking at diffs if I don't know what I'm looking for could be a rabbit hole with no end |
| 07:20.01 | JeffM | Flash: that's why you do the diffs to see what changed so you can see what areas of code were affected |
| 07:20.16 | JeffM | then that is were debugers help |
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| 07:20.22 | DTRemenak | notes that he's very glad he documented how to get mingw stuff working in the readme :) |
| 07:20.27 | JeffM | steping thru code is the best way to see what it does. |
| 07:20.48 | Flash | yeah, that's a bit of an issue on a mac |
| 07:20.59 | Flash | I need a remote machine to debug |
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| 07:21.58 | Flash | by the way, there's some memory corruption in the server when it regenerates a random world |
| 07:22.08 | DTRemenak | that does not surprise me at all |
| 07:22.12 | JeffM | fix one thing at a time ;) |
| 07:22.19 | Flash | THAT I do have in the debugger, but it's no help |
| 07:22.20 | JeffM | realy sleeps then will work out the ID issue |
| 07:22.32 | DTRemenak | if you have a test case I can valgrind it |
| 07:24.20 | Flash | DTRemenak: http://flash.pastebin.ca/989337 |
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| 07:24.46 | Flash | start up the server, connect (I use 5 robots), disconnect, wait |
| 07:24.59 | DTRemenak | ah, ok |
| 07:25.37 | Flash | but the bed calls for now |
| 07:25.43 | DTRemenak | indeed |
| 07:25.46 | DTRemenak | me too |
| 07:26.14 | Lukstr | gah |
| 07:26.17 | Lukstr | I guess I should sleep |
| 07:26.32 | Lukstr | but I won't like it one bit ;) |
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| 08:00.57 | Lukstr | DTRemenak: go to sleep! :P |
| 08:01.07 | Lukstr | collapses in a pile of servers |
| 08:01.16 | DTRemenak | pft, bugs > sleep |
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| 14:13.40 | FCfight | hey |
| 14:13.58 | FCfight | constitution |
| 14:14.24 | whodaman | He's not here right now |
| 14:14.53 | FCfight | dex |
| 14:15.02 | whodaman | yes? |
| 14:15.09 | FCfight | nvrm |
| 14:15.14 | whodaman | can I help you? |
| 14:15.21 | FCfight | no |
| 14:15.35 | FCfight | wait |
| 14:16.08 | FCfight | dex |
| 14:16.18 | whodaman | yes..? |
| 14:16.52 | FCfight | are u in the phago at games convention video |
| 14:17.18 | whodaman | no |
| 14:17.24 | FCfight | oh |
| 14:17.37 | FCfight | are u in any of there videos |
| 14:18.57 | whodaman | No, non of them there |
| 14:19.05 | FCfight | oh |
| 14:19.37 | FCfight | anyways i gotta go play bzf cya |
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| 14:25.23 | whodaman | ..okay |
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| 15:00.44 | whodaman | Obviously not |
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| 15:39.03 | ts | JeffM: I saw you closed the shot at border bug |
| 15:39.14 | JeffM | ts: yeah I tried like heck to dupe it |
| 15:39.18 | JeffM | can you dupe it? |
| 15:39.29 | ts | JeffM: No, it's gone, but it's gone the wrong way |
| 15:39.41 | ts | JeffM: Client can not connect to server anymore |
| 15:39.55 | JeffM | wha? |
| 15:39.58 | JeffM | since when? |
| 15:40.06 | ts | Don't know.. |
| 15:40.13 | JeffM | and I do not see how those are related |
| 15:40.19 | JeffM | but i'll look into it |
| 15:40.23 | ts | I'm not testing on regular basis |
| 15:40.32 | JeffM | it was connecting and working last night |
| 15:41.05 | donny_baker | JeffM: im around now, was it concerning my bug report that you closed? |
| 15:41.17 | JeffM | donny_baker: maybe |
| 15:41.23 | JeffM | probably |
| 15:41.29 | JeffM | probably asking if still duped |
| 15:41.31 | ts | For me the client connects to server, shows the push .. key to spawn..but nothing works. Even the "send to all" is gone |
| 15:41.59 | donny_baker | yeah, i almost closed it myself... hasn't happened in a few versions at least |
| 15:45.01 | ts | What is socklen_t fr? |
| 15:45.21 | JeffM | the length of a socket |
| 15:45.49 | ts | I've never heard of sockets having a length |
| 15:46.00 | JeffM | all data structures have a size |
| 15:47.16 | ts | Well, they need space in memory. Is that what you mean? |
| 15:48.18 | JeffM | hmmm the count is wrong |
| 15:48.22 | JeffM | for the flag update |
| 15:48.28 | JeffM | ts: yes that wold ba a size |
| 15:48.39 | JeffM | and it does not suprise me that you've not heard of it |
| 15:50.22 | Chestal | ts: socklen_t is int (mostly) and a sad story |
| 15:51.59 | JeffM | wow, DTRemenak's server says it has 58248 flags on it |
| 15:52.05 | ts | BTW where did the emails gone? |
| 15:52.11 | JeffM | away |
| 15:52.21 | JeffM | it'll be replaced with a more dynamic team field |
| 15:52.22 | ts | Why? |
| 15:52.25 | JeffM | taht can be changed after runtime |
| 15:52.33 | JeffM | for more options |
| 15:52.41 | JeffM | because e-mail is not something we want |
| 15:52.45 | JeffM | it is used for other things |
| 15:52.55 | JeffM | so we will have features that properly support it's sue |
| 15:53.00 | ts | I thought API could be used to mod email string |
| 15:53.15 | JeffM | ts: I don't belicve so |
| 15:53.20 | JeffM | but we don't have a message to update it in real time |
| 15:53.26 | JeffM | only on join |
| 15:53.31 | JeffM | and it shold not be called "e-mail" |
| 15:53.46 | ts | Err e-mail is indeed a bad name |
| 15:54.13 | JeffM | so it'll get redone |
| 15:54.45 | JeffM | in a way where if a server owner wants to, they can have the field change based on global ID and set it to a league team or something |
| 15:54.52 | JeffM | then it'll be much more usefull |
| 15:55.00 | ts | Why would one want to change that field during playing? |
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| 15:55.39 | JeffM | ts: becuase say a match starts and you want to flag what real team everyone is on. |
| 15:56.22 | ts | Ah, right. You got rid of the rejoin requirement |
| 15:56.35 | JeffM | that's the goal yeah |
| 15:56.43 | JeffM | to make the game as dynamic as possible |
| 15:57.54 | ts | Let's say someone is looking for a team. In the old days the player wrote it down in their email field. What would they do in trunk? |
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| 16:06.09 | JeffM | they would write it ina field called affiliation |
| 16:06.12 | JeffM | or something |
| 16:06.16 | JeffM | haven't decided on the name |
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| 16:12.51 | JeffM | ahhh, I'm so stupid |
| 16:13.49 | ts | JeffM: Err..umm if a new field will be added that is so similar to the old email field, then the old field could have just been renamed and a bit modified |
| 16:14.06 | JeffM | ts: in the interface sure |
| 16:14.11 | JeffM | but it needs to be sent difrently |
| 16:14.14 | JeffM | with it's own message |
| 16:14.21 | JeffM | the inteface code is minimal |
| 16:16.16 | CIA-31 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r17022 10/trunk/bzflag/src/game/CommandsStandard.cxx: when testing for invalid OS keys, use the valid ones. |
| 16:16.36 | JeffM | update, build, remove your 3.0 config and you'll be good |
| 16:17.02 | ts | On my way. |
| 16:17.25 | JeffM | you must remove your 3.0 config file |
| 16:17.28 | JeffM | or it will not work |
| 16:17.40 | ts | Why? |
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| 16:17.51 | JeffM | because it no longer has any key bindings |
| 16:19.46 | JeffM | anyone who build current code in the past 14 hours will have this issue |
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| 16:22.31 | ts | JeffM: Just tried. Joining works again and the bug is re-introduced |
| 16:23.59 | ts | The selfkill bug is still reproduceable |
| 16:30.20 | catay | whats the selfkill bug? |
| 16:30.55 | ts | catay: Jump at map border and fire. Some shots will kill you. |
| 16:31.24 | ts | Similar to the teleporter selfkill |
| 16:32.07 | BulletCatcher | Without rico? |
| 16:32.08 | catay | ah, i rarely play on jumping servers |
| 16:35.58 | JeffM | ts: cool, fix it ;) |
| 16:37.24 | JeffM | BulletCatcher: get anywhere on the drivethru thing? |
| 16:37.53 | BulletCatcher | No. gdb is too big an obstacle for me right now. |
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| 16:38.28 | JeffM | it's a tool you'll have to learn |
| 16:38.33 | JeffM | there are also other versions of it |
| 16:38.36 | JeffM | kdbg IIRC |
| 16:38.37 | BulletCatcher | So it seems. |
| 16:38.41 | JeffM | I've used that and its' nice |
| 16:38.49 | JeffM | but I'll take a look at it at work |
| 16:39.01 | JeffM | ts: can you PM me your exact setup ( server options and map ) |
| 16:39.10 | JeffM | and I'll look at that at work too if you don't have time to fix it |
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| 16:58.12 | Winny | mahna mahna |
| 16:58.55 | whodaman | ... |
| 16:59.07 | Winny | You'er suppost to go "doo doo do do" |
| 16:59.46 | whodaman | doo doo do do |
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| 17:07.54 | short_circuit | just spent 351 bux @ fry's :- |
| 17:08.24 | JeffM | that's all? |
| 17:08.40 | JeffM | DTRemenak, you arround? |
| 17:08.42 | spldart | eep |
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| 17:09.45 | BulletCatcher | JeffM: Let me reconfirm the problem with svn r17022 before you spend any time on the drivethrough bug. |
| 17:10.39 | JeffM | ibot message for DTRemenak your no flag test server seems to be giving me a very large flag count duing the inital flag send (5k+) but I can't see anything in the code that woudl cause it to pack that, can you take a look at it when you have a chance. |
| 17:10.46 | JeffM | BulletCatcher, ok |
| 17:11.38 | JeffM | ts, so rico off, box near wall, and climb up over the edge? |
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| 17:15.01 | ts | JeffM: No.. |
| 17:15.08 | JeffM | rico on? |
| 17:15.20 | ts | JeffM: It's a server like my.inexplicably.org 5154 |
| 17:15.26 | ts | Rico on, jumping on |
| 17:15.28 | JeffM | ts, I need the setup here |
| 17:15.52 | TheRedBaron | thats my server |
| 17:15.52 | JeffM | and you are shooting over the top of the stone wall right? |
| 17:16.01 | TheRedBaron | just built it from svn |
| 17:16.10 | JeffM | TheRedBaron, yes but I can't debug it ;) |
| 17:16.21 | ts | JeffM: Yes, above the textured wall |
| 17:16.32 | JeffM | ts, ok, I'll give it a shot! |
| 17:16.40 | ts | JeffM: like when jumping |
| 17:16.55 | JeffM | noone laughs at my jokes |
| 17:17.06 | JeffM | ts, I was going to put a box that goes over the edge |
| 17:17.13 | JeffM | so I could sit there and try |
| 17:17.18 | ts | JeffM: That's also ok |
| 17:17.21 | JeffM | k |
| 17:19.09 | TheRedBaron | JeffM: I can get the log |
| 17:19.21 | JeffM | TheRedBaron, I know |
| 17:19.32 | JeffM | but that's not the same as having an interactive debuger |
| 17:19.37 | JeffM | I need to be able to dupe this solo |
| 17:19.48 | JeffM | but thank you for the offer :) |
| 17:20.10 | TheRedBaron | np - as the servermsg says - just my pithy attribution to bz development |
| 17:20.32 | JeffM | heh |
| 17:20.41 | TheRedBaron | :) |
| 17:20.42 | JeffM | well it's damned hanndy for testing client issues |
| 17:20.44 | JeffM | that's for sure |
| 17:21.12 | ts | I get some of these btw: bzfs(73866) malloc: *** error for object 0x10edaa0: double free |
| 17:21.13 | spldart | has to try out his new router |
| 17:21.15 | ts | *** set a breakpoint in malloc_error_break to debug |
| 17:21.19 | TheRedBaron | right - I can't code jack, so I figure i can help with testing |
| 17:22.44 | JeffM | DTRemenak, please disregard the botmail |
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| 17:35.45 | BulletCatcher | The drivethrough bug still occurs with the demo map at http://pastebin.bzflag.bz/m33554a1e using svn r17022. |
| 17:38.01 | JeffM | fighured it woud |
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| 17:38.55 | BulletCatcher | I was concerned because it worked correctly in a test with r16971. |
| 17:39.21 | BulletCatcher | But that version has the ID mismatch. |
| 17:39.56 | JeffM | I'll look at that after I figure out TSs thing |
| 17:40.16 | JeffM | it will probably depend on how many objects there are |
| 17:40.23 | JeffM | I belive the IDs are off by one |
| 17:40.39 | BulletCatcher | No hurry. I may be away for awhile. |
| 17:41.07 | JeffM | I've saved the map to, thanks |
| 17:41.46 | JeffM | and if you are having issues with GDB.. could I interst you in perhaps something in a visual studio line? ;) |
| 17:42.10 | BulletCatcher | Does it run on Linux? :-) |
| 17:42.24 | JeffM | for certan values of linux.... sure |
| 17:42.36 | JeffM | hugs CIA-31 |
| 17:42.39 | JeffM | :( |
| 17:43.10 | BulletCatcher | The demo map world size is set to 100 just to minimize driving after a random spawn. It has nothing to do with the bug. |
| 17:43.37 | JeffM | yeah, figured :) |
| 17:43.58 | JeffM | I usualy solve that by making the server hardcode the spawn to 0, 0, 20 :) |
| 17:44.03 | JeffM | gotta love plugins :) |
| 17:44.29 | BulletCatcher | The tank speed could be increased, too. |
| 17:45.43 | JeffM | that could affect other tests |
| 17:46.00 | JeffM | most of my test maps are around 0,0,0 so just spawning there is simple for a general case |
| 17:46.12 | JeffM | it's it's a very easy mod of airspawn :) |
| 17:46.35 | BulletCatcher | Sure. Big question: should gdb be run on the client or the server for this bug? |
| 17:46.47 | JeffM | clietn for starters |
| 17:46.53 | BulletCatcher | k |
| 17:52.53 | catay | BulletCatcher: a gdb tutor that helped me pretty well : http://dirac.org/linux/gdb/ |
| 17:54.12 | BulletCatcher | Thanks. That looks like it will help me. |
| 17:56.48 | BulletCatcher | Okay. In gdb I set a break point on getWorldObjectTangibility (which is called _ZN26ClientIntangibilityManager25getWorldObjectTangibilityEj in my Linux binary). |
| 17:57.17 | BulletCatcher | It is not triggered when I drive through the box that is supposed to be drivethrough. |
| 17:57.42 | BulletCatcher | But when I hit the non-drivethrough box it triggered. |
| 17:58.10 | BulletCatcher | The traceback shows it was called with objectGUID=1 . |
| 18:00.44 | JeffM | ts, fixed |
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| 18:06.52 | Lukstr | pokes JeffM |
| 18:07.09 | Lukstr | *ahem* http://bzflag.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/bzflag/trunk/bzflag/src/bzfs/Makefile.am?r1=17002&r2=17001&pathrev=17002 |
| 18:07.30 | Lukstr | (this would explain the linking errors) |
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| 18:07.57 | JeffM | ahh |
| 18:07.59 | JeffM | should be an h |
| 18:08.01 | JeffM | doih |
| 18:08.04 | Lukstr | heh |
| 18:08.07 | JeffM | thanks |
| 18:08.11 | Lukstr | no problem. |
| 18:08.38 | Lukstr | I woke up and realized I was trying to fix the wrong problem yesterday and it had to be in the build system to produce such a generic error |
| 18:08.39 | JeffM | wow, on mine it's .cxx and h |
| 18:08.45 | Lukstr | eh |
| 18:08.49 | Lukstr | maybe svn threw up |
| 18:09.10 | JeffM | I think it did |
| 18:09.46 | CIA-32 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r17025 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzfs/Makefile.am: try to get a .h and .cxx THIS time |
| 18:09.57 | JeffM | get that and tell me what it does? |
| 18:10.12 | JeffM | well that also explains why it looked good for me :) |
| 18:10.13 | Lukstr | yes |
| 18:10.24 | JeffM | all I did on that commit was add a space :) |
| 18:10.30 | JeffM | wierdness |
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| 18:10.39 | Lukstr | heh |
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| 18:20.13 | *** topic/#bzflag is http://BZFlag.org || http://cia.vc/stats/project/BZFlag || http://my.BZFlag.org/w/Getting_Help || logs at http://ibot.rikers.org/%23bzflag/ || http://ohloh.net/projects/189 || 2.0.10 is the latest public release || BZFlag is in GSoC 2008, mentor blog at http://tanks4code.blogspot.com || GSoC applications are being reviewed throughout the week -- applicants should keep an eye on their app for comments and continue to work on their patch(es) |
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| 18:23.11 | CIA-32 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r17026 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzflag/ (5 files): instead of using ID lookups all over the place for ClientIntangibility just pass in the obstacle, it's a lot more correct. |
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| 18:30.19 | BulletCatcher | Does that fix the problem, or simply make it easier to debug? |
| 18:30.59 | JeffM | for what you are doing it fixes it |
| 18:31.12 | JeffM | I have a feeling it breaks doors, but noone is using those now, and we can debug them later |
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| 18:34.17 | BulletCatcher | Okay. I'll rebuild and test. Thanks. |
| 18:34.31 | JeffM | hey thanks for finding it :) |
| 18:35.25 | BulletCatcher | It was a very obvious problem on one of my favorite maps. |
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| 18:36.27 | spldart | Got the new cable modem FINALLY activated... It does pretty good. http://70.240.241.158:8080/bandwidth.jpg |
| 18:36.51 | L4m3r | wow spldart, not bad |
| 18:37.03 | L4m3r | on cable? :o |
| 18:37.05 | spldart | The old one wont' go that fast |
| 18:37.09 | spldart | yeah cable |
| 18:37.12 | L4m3r | damn |
| 18:37.22 | spldart | the old one does 6m down and .5 up |
| 18:37.47 | spldart | And don't even ask me about the DSL 8-0 |
| 18:38.23 | L4m3r | my dad has actually been considering DSL because the Comcastic experience has been awful |
| 18:39.14 | spldart | My comcast experience has been bad too.. but dsl is just to slow here |
| 18:39.37 | BulletCatcher | JeffM: Could the ID defines in include/ObstacleMgr.h be eliminated by using the ObstacleTypes enum from include/Obstacle.h ? If so, that would prevent future mismatch problems. |
| 18:39.56 | CIA-32 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r17027 10/trunk/bzflag/BUGS: font sizes have been fixed up to be more in line with the older views. |
| 18:40.01 | JeffM | BulletCatcher, probalby |
| 18:40.20 | BulletCatcher | I should be able to provide a patch for that, if it really works. |
| 18:40.28 | JeffM | cool |
| 18:43.55 | Lukstr | JeffM: successful build |
| 18:44.36 | JeffM | huzah |
| 18:50.29 | JeffM | see seems to have an invisible touch yea... she reaches in and grabs right ahold of your heart! |
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| 18:54.37 | spldart | is wondering.. since he is now considering hosting @ home again as well.. if he might be fortunate enough to get a bzflag domain name again :) .. once he's ready |
| 18:55.36 | JeffM | ask tim for a bzflag.net addy |
| 18:56.25 | spldart | okies |
| 18:59.09 | CIA-32 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r17028 10/trunk/bzflag/ (include/OpenGLUtils.h src/ogl/OpenGLUtils.cxx): utils to draw a box frame using quads for consistency on all cards ( and allowing the box to be shaded later). |
| 18:59.20 | iWinny | I could give you a busyflag adress ;) |
| 18:59.30 | spldart | hehe... maybe.. |
| 18:59.43 | CIA-32 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r17029 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzflag/HUDRenderer.cxx: use glOutlineBox to draw hud box. |
| 19:00.06 | spldart | with 2208kbps up and nearly 20,000kbps down I could host a decent server now. |
| 19:00.14 | spldart | Not great but decent |
| 19:00.15 | iWinny | :) |
| 19:02.16 | spldart | wonders how long it takes a 500gig to format to ext3 |
| 19:04.29 | whodaman- | JeffM, isn't it bzflag.org for the bzfs? |
| 19:04.34 | whodaman- | that's what all the others have... |
| 19:04.45 | JeffM | whodaman-, yeah |
| 19:04.50 | whodaman- | ok |
| 19:04.50 | JeffM | and they will be changing hopefully |
| 19:04.54 | whodaman- | to? |
| 19:04.57 | whodaman- | .net ? |
| 19:04.59 | CIA-32 | BZFlag: 03blast007 * r17030 10/trunk/bzflag/MSVC/VC71/bzfs.vcproj: Add BackgroundTask.cxx/h to the VC7.1 build system. |
| 19:05.07 | JeffM | I want tim to remove all non official .org domains |
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| 19:05.11 | JeffM | and turn them into .nets |
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| 19:05.23 | JeffM | .org then means "offical" |
| 19:05.31 | JeffM | so like fourms, and image downloads, etc.. |
| 19:05.35 | JeffM | and .net is users |
| 19:07.57 | blast007 | hmm, now the BackgroundTask stuff works on my linux system |
| 19:08.06 | blast007 | wonder if CIA missed a commit |
| 19:08.13 | JeffM | it has |
| 19:08.16 | JeffM | it's been flakey |
| 19:08.20 | JeffM | it missed like 4 of mine |
| 19:08.25 | JeffM | then restarted :) |
| 19:08.40 | JeffM | blast007, basicly SVN ate my commit |
| 19:08.50 | JeffM | in the makefile it put 2 instances of the .cxx file |
| 19:08.57 | JeffM | where I have a .h and a .cxx |
| 19:08.57 | blast007 | ah |
| 19:09.10 | JeffM | so I added another commit that added a space and it put the file right |
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| 19:09.19 | JeffM | it was wierd |
| 19:09.29 | blast007 | I think I might have seen that one then |
| 19:09.31 | blast007 | 03:09:37 < CIA-14> BZFlag: dtremenak * r17016 /trunk/bzflag/src/bzfs/Makefile.am: don't build the same file twice |
| 19:09.42 | JeffM | maybe |
| 19:09.47 | JeffM | oddness |
| 19:09.58 | JeffM | or maybe he fixed it before I looked at it |
| 19:10.19 | blast007 | has any major testing been done on Open FFA? |
| 19:10.32 | blast007 | I might throw up a server with that as well, and beat on it a bit |
| 19:10.55 | JeffM | I'm fixing all the nvidia drawing bugs with points now |
| 19:11.06 | blast007 | I can get a replay server up, and add the right premissions to the 'DEVELOPERS' group so you can test that |
| 19:11.17 | JeffM | ahh |
| 19:11.24 | JeffM | I don't think I'm ready for that |
| 19:11.28 | JeffM | but if you want to bang on it :) |
| 19:11.53 | JeffM | my guess is that after you record a game that has rico, the rico won't be set in the replay |
| 19:12.39 | blast007 | the replay system is "fun" |
| 19:12.44 | JeffM | indeed |
| 19:12.46 | blast007 | even in 2.0.x it has serious issues |
| 19:12.55 | JeffM | yeah it is not implemented well |
| 19:12.57 | JeffM | it's a hack |
| 19:12.58 | blast007 | like it wouldn't show join messages iirc (or part messages... one of them) |
| 19:13.43 | blast007 | and private chat wasn't recorded either, which I can see why, but I have a plugin that sends all private chat to the admin channel |
| 19:14.08 | blast007 | and just the other day I caught someone swearing at another player in Hungarian ;) |
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| 19:25.36 | ts | JeffM: Yes, looks fixed. Can't reproduce any more. |
| 19:25.57 | JeffM | it shoudl ignore those segments |
| 19:26.02 | JeffM | we used to not make a segment at the end |
| 19:26.58 | ts | Is this related to selfkill while shooting and driving through a teleporter? |
| 19:27.07 | JeffM | I doubt it |
| 19:36.45 | BulletCatcher | The drivethrough problem on Two Tanks is gone as of r17027, making that map appear fully playable in 2.99. On to other bugs... |
| 19:36.47 | BulletCatcher | ~JeffM++ |
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| 19:39.21 | CIA-32 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * r17031 10/trunk/bzflag/ (76 files in 6 dirs): update c-ares to 1.5.1. |
| 19:43.03 | DTRemenak | JeffM: yeah, you had two .cxx's in the makefile originally |
| 19:43.08 | DTRemenak | (reading backlog) |
| 19:43.14 | JeffM | k |
| 19:43.21 | JeffM | then thats why I didn't see it here, cus I updated |
| 19:43.26 | JeffM | thanks for catching it |
| 19:43.30 | DTRemenak | needless to say it didn't link very well :) |
| 19:43.52 | DTRemenak | is trying to get the mingw build working again |
| 19:44.01 | CIA-32 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r17032 10/trunk/bzflag/src/ogl/OpenGLUtils.cxx: do min/max boxes using the limits in drawing, so we are pixel accurate. |
| 19:44.05 | JeffM | DTRemenak, fun |
| 19:44.16 | JeffM | I'm fixing nvidia driver issues :) |
| 19:44.43 | CIA-32 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r17033 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzflag/RadarRenderer.cxx: use a glOutlineBox for the radar frame. |
| 19:44.44 | DTRemenak | would help if mingw's perl wasn't so horiffically slow |
| 19:45.00 | JeffM | the tabs are going to be "fun" |
| 19:45.05 | DTRemenak | swaps the double f for a double r |
| 19:45.17 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 19:45.18 | JeffM | but at least the radar and hud boxes are good now |
| 19:55.35 | CIA-32 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * r17034 10/trunk/bzflag/src/other/ares/configure.ac: our ares is not living inside a curl tree, handle --enable-debug appropriately |
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| 20:12.07 | DTRemenak | needs the help of someone with stronger build-fu |
| 20:12.43 | DTRemenak | brlcad: currently freetype requires a system zlib. how can we set it up to use our internal zlib in the case where there is no system zlib? |
| 20:16.59 | brlcad | configure-fu |
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| 20:25.46 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o JBdiGriz] by ChanServ |
| 20:25.51 | CIA-32 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * r17035 10/trunk/bzflag/configure.ac: don't screw up on later configure tests if we happen to not have pthreads |
| 20:32.06 | CIA-32 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r17036 10/trunk/bzflag/ (include/OpenGLUtils.h src/ogl/OpenGLUtils.cxx): util to draw a tabbed rectangle. |
| 20:32.34 | CIA-32 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * r17037 10/trunk/bzflag/src/other/Makefile.am: need zlib before freetype |
| 20:37.34 | TD-Linux | JeffM, yay for r17032 |
| 20:37.41 | TD-Linux | and r17033 :) |
| 20:50.06 | TD-Linux | also, font issue appears to be fixed |
| 20:51.55 | blast007 | oh cool, my bzflag.exe crashes on launch... |
| 20:51.57 | blast007 | builds clean |
| 21:01.35 | BulletCatcher | If you ever ran the client from r17009-r17021 you may need to remove your 3.0 client config file to get back the key mappings. |
| 21:02.05 | CIA-32 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * r17038 10/trunk/bzflag/src/common/TimeKeeper.cxx: fix missing line endings in debug messages |
| 21:03.18 | CIA-32 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * r17039 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzfs/CmdLineOptions.cxx: output message before trying to set processor affinity, not after, since it might fail and it's weird to see the error before the status message |
| 21:15.21 | catay | wishes he could fix stuff at this rate :) |
| 21:16.03 | whodaman- | catay, you're wasting time! :p |
| 21:18.52 | CIA-32 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * r17040 10/trunk/bzflag/src/other/freetype/ (Makefile.am builds/unix/configure.ac): turn off freetype's zlib checks since we already do it. just be sure to add LIBZ as a LIBADD so that it makes it onto the link line with libfreetype is used. |
| 21:19.01 | ruskie | http://ruskie.dtdm.net/scry/index.php/view/8/bzflag/players/p4193094.jpg <-- weee |
| 21:19.10 | DTRemenak | woot |
| 21:21.39 | brlcad | heh, neat ruskie |
| 21:21.51 | ruskie | and that's an xxxl in case anyone is wondering :) |
| 21:21.55 | brlcad | that's one angry goatee there |
| 21:22.01 | ruskie | :) |
| 21:23.13 | whodaman- | :P |
| 21:23.39 | ruskie | it looks better after I have a clean shave and such... |
| 21:23.45 | whodaman- | heh |
| 21:23.56 | ruskie | though I wouldn't call it a goatee exactly... |
| 21:24.31 | Winny | Can vista be set up to not allow the installing or running of EXEs without a password? |
| 21:24.36 | Winny | or does UAC do that automatically? |
| 21:24.59 | Flash | ruskie: I wasn't going to say that..... |
| 21:25.16 | ruskie | Flash, ? |
| 21:25.28 | Flash | 15:23 < ruskie> though I wouldn't call it a goatee exactly... |
| 21:25.33 | ruskie | :) |
| 21:31.21 | blast007 | bzflag is broke on Windows now... it's crashing in ares stuff |
| 21:33.12 | blast007 | http://pastebin.bzflag.bz/d49cba0bb |
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| 21:53.35 | bugQ | oo, didn't know we had a pastebin. |
| 21:54.09 | whodaman- | hehe |
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| 21:58.22 | JeffM | DTRemenak: have you tried that new ares in vc yet? |
| 22:04.25 | JeffM | yay.. it wasn't just my laptop |
| 22:05.07 | JeffM | has anyone tried to build and run the client on linux since the ares change? |
| 22:09.10 | TheRedBaron | blast007: in a nutshell what does ares do for bz? |
| 22:09.11 | catay | i'm building one right now |
| 22:09.22 | Tupone | 2.0 branch : yes |
| 22:09.40 | catay | and it just bailed out :P |
| 22:09.52 | catay | 1 sec, i'll past it in pastebin |
| 22:09.58 | JeffM | TheRedBaron: dns lookups |
| 22:10.00 | JeffM | Tupone: trunk |
| 22:10.45 | Tupone | I didn't see one of my changes. But the commit message was very long |
| 22:10.56 | catay | http://pastebin.bzflag.bz/m3880513c |
| 22:11.17 | JeffM | ahh |
| 22:11.19 | JeffM | I build |
| 22:11.21 | JeffM | but don't run |
| 22:11.32 | JeffM | trying a full rebuild |
| 22:13.35 | TD-Linux | I'm building on linux |
| 22:13.40 | TD-Linux | actually wait |
| 22:13.52 | TD-Linux | I just remembered I already tested it a bit ago |
| 22:13.56 | JeffM | you guys may use a system ares so it may not be an issue |
| 22:14.01 | TD-Linux | worked for me, didn't test gameplay though |
| 22:14.25 | JeffM | it's probalby something just with the VC project |
| 22:14.52 | TD-Linux | I can find and join servers fine |
| 22:15.19 | Tupone | TD-Linux: what the version of ares you have? |
| 22:15.21 | TD-Linux | with r17037 |
| 22:15.36 | catay | odd, i could build it before on my system |
| 22:15.44 | Tupone | is from the system or locally from bz tree? |
| 22:15.54 | TD-Linux | most likely locally |
| 22:16.01 | TD-Linux | I'm checking |
| 22:16.23 | TD-Linux | oh wait nevermind |
| 22:16.28 | TD-Linux | locally isn't installed |
| 22:16.33 | TD-Linux | so I'm using bzflag's packaged versoin |
| 22:17.17 | Tupone | TD-Linux: what distro? Just to know. |
| 22:17.24 | TD-Linux | kubuntu :P |
| 22:17.33 | TD-Linux | a rather hacked kubuntu by now |
| 22:18.43 | TD-Linux | is everyone else's fonts hinted? |
| 22:18.55 | TD-Linux | like, aligned to pixel boundaries? |
| 22:21.15 | bugQ | who is everyone? |
| 22:21.27 | TD-Linux | ahahahah heart flags |
| 22:22.32 | bugQ | I'm not using kubuntu right now, but I know that quartz on mac does not hint fonts. |
| 22:23.18 | TD-Linux | font hinting was off in bzflag before |
| 22:23.31 | TD-Linux | I changed the hinting setting in the source of ftgl with no result |
| 22:23.34 | TD-Linux | suddenly it seemed to work |
| 22:23.46 | TD-Linux | just wondering if it was a result of me or some other change |
| 22:24.07 | TD-Linux | I suppose I could change it & recompile |
| 22:25.29 | TD-Linux | nope, my change didn't seem to affect anything :/ |
| 22:25.49 | TD-Linux | bzflag's default font looks ugly when hinted :( |
| 22:26.02 | bugQ | somehow I think most fonts do... |
| 22:29.02 | catay | my ares issue was because I forgot to do a autogen ... |
| 22:31.02 | catay | JeffM: http://pastebin.bzflag.bz/m39037eb4 |
| 22:31.18 | catay | my debug build fails because of warnings of unused vars in the method |
| 22:31.27 | JeffM | comment them for now |
| 22:31.33 | JeffM | I'll be using them in a sec |
| 22:31.40 | JeffM | I just got jacked cus of the ares thing |
| 22:31.46 | JeffM | I can't acualy run |
| 22:31.52 | catay | ok |
| 22:38.45 | TheRedBaron | ~seen quol |
| 22:38.47 | ibot | quol <n=Ian@69.90.0.146> was last seen on IRC in channel ##kierra, 44d 5h 17m 49s ago, saying: 'I hope he doesn't get as big as "Clifford" :)'. |
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| 22:45.23 | lworld63 | hel |
| 22:45.27 | lworld63 | help |
| 22:45.29 | lworld63 | asdhfj |
| 22:45.31 | lworld63 | f |
| 22:45.31 | lworld63 | ff |
| 22:45.32 | lworld63 | fff |
| 22:45.32 | lworld63 | fffff |
| 22:45.32 | lworld63 | ffffff |
| 22:45.33 | lworld63 | fffffff |
| 22:45.34 | JeffM | hello |
| 22:45.34 | lworld63 | fffffffff |
| 22:45.35 | JeffM | dude |
| 22:45.36 | lworld63 | ffffffff |
| 22:45.38 | lworld63 | ffffffffff |
| 22:45.40 | lworld63 | fffffffffffff |
| 22:45.42 | lworld63 | fffffffffff |
| 22:45.44 | lworld63 | ffffffffffff |
| 22:45.46 | lworld63 | fffffffffffffff |
| 22:45.48 | lworld63 | ffffffffffffff |
| 22:45.50 | lworld63 | ffffffffffffffffff |
| 22:45.50 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o JeffM2501] by ChanServ |
| 22:45.52 | lworld63 | fffffffffffffffffff |
| 22:45.54 | lworld63 | ffffffffffffffffffff |
| 22:45.56 | lworld63 | fffffffffffffffff |
| 22:45.57 | TheRedBaron | you type slow JeffM2501 :) |
| 22:45.58 | lworld63 | ffffffffffffffff |
| 22:46.00 | lworld63 | fffffffffffffffffffff |
| 22:46.02 | lworld63 | fffffffffffffffffffffff |
| 22:46.04 | lworld63 | sry i just freaked |
| 22:46.06 | lworld63 | help me |
| 22:46.11 | JeffM2501 | that is NOT cool |
| 22:46.12 | me1 | stop spaming the channel |
| 22:46.15 | spldart | w0rd |
| 22:46.20 | JeffM2501 | what do you need help with? |
| 22:46.31 | JeffM2501 | considering you'v eprety much angered everyone here. |
| 22:46.43 | lworld63 | you know Ashleypogi13 |
| 22:46.47 | JeffM2501 | nope |
| 22:46.57 | JeffM2501 | if it's a ban issue take it up with the owner of the server |
| 22:47.03 | JeffM2501 | we don't do anything about servers here |
| 22:47.31 | lworld63 | well SV i don't know the adress to and nn is gone |
| 22:47.36 | JeffM2501 | so? |
| 22:47.42 | JeffM2501 | send nn a pm |
| 22:47.49 | lworld63 | those are the owners |
| 22:47.52 | JeffM2501 | or contact him in whatever way he's set up for you |
| 22:48.01 | JeffM2501 | spaming this channel will not help you |
| 22:48.05 | JeffM2501 | if anything it'll get you banned |
| 22:48.09 | JeffM2501 | we don't run servers |
| 22:48.15 | JeffM2501 | this is the development channel |
| 22:48.19 | JeffM2501 | not nn's private place |
| 22:48.31 | spldart | Nor anyone's for that matter |
| 22:48.44 | lworld63 | is he on forums |
| 22:48.49 | JeffM2501 | if the owners have not given you contact info, then you are prety much screwed, just go play elsewhere |
| 22:48.50 | TheRedBaron | mine ! |
| 22:48.59 | spldart | :) |
| 22:49.06 | JeffM2501 | lworld63: he has a fourm account, sure |
| 22:49.06 | lworld63 | well i am admin on it |
| 22:49.15 | JeffM2501 | lworld63: so? |
| 22:49.23 | JeffM2501 | issues are between him and you |
| 22:49.25 | JeffM2501 | not us |
| 22:49.26 | spldart | We don't care about that or most any other server |
| 22:49.29 | lworld63 | where is a server chat room |
| 22:49.43 | JeffM2501 | and I'm realy sick of NN's childish admins coming in here and spaming the place |
| 22:49.51 | JeffM2501 | lworld63: you are an admin, YOU SHOULD KNOW |
| 22:50.57 | JeffM2501 | I mean how are we going to have knowledge about a private server that you don't even have, given that you are an admin |
| 22:53.20 | lworld63 | whatever |
| 22:53.34 | *** kick/#bzflag [lworld63!n=Jeff@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/JeffM2501] by JeffM2501 (JeffM2501) |
| 22:53.35 | spldart | o_O |
| 22:53.44 | blast007 | my guess his "admins" just use /password |
| 22:53.49 | blast007 | so they can't get antiban |
| 22:54.01 | JeffM2501 | he's just a bad owner |
| 22:54.18 | JeffM2501 | yeah that's obvious cus they give out the /password and get "hacked" |
| 22:54.40 | me1 | I love it when their own admins "hack" them |
| 22:56.00 | Flash | saw the kick coming from 3 blocks away |
| 22:56.27 | Flash | when JeffM turns into JeffM2501 it's like daddy taking off his belt |
| 22:56.40 | JeffM2501 | it's the only name with ops |
| 22:56.54 | Flash | I know that, but the noobs are clueless |
| 22:57.46 | JeffM2501 | nn has been warned |
| 22:59.27 | JeffM2501 | wonders where DTRemenak is |
| 23:05.53 | catay | with my latest build I can't connect with my client to a server |
| 23:06.06 | catay | I see them in the server list , but when I try to connect it says 'server not found' |
| 23:06.17 | JeffM2501 | ares probably |
| 23:06.21 | Winny | "<Flash> when JeffM turns into JeffM2501 it's like daddy taking off his belt" - haha |
| 23:06.24 | catay | it works with bzadmin |
| 23:06.31 | Winny | ~Flash++ |
| 23:06.48 | JeffM2501 | they init differntly IIRC |
| 23:07.24 | CIA-32 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r17041 10/trunk/bzflag/ (include/OpenGLUtils.h src/ogl/OpenGLUtils.cxx): more tab drawing ( should use all vars now ) |
| 23:11.07 | catay | yah must be, i can connect to spldart his servers, they are with ip in the list, the others i can't |
| 23:13.00 | JeffM2501 | going to try to do a local revert of the ares dir to see if that fixes it |
| 23:13.04 | JeffM2501 | then at least I am sure it's ares |
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| 23:16.26 | mib_k9mtfu | flagEffectTime = according to wiki, The amount of time the flag effect lasts. |
| 23:16.41 | mib_k9mtfu | isn't it how long it takes for the flag effect to be used? |
| 23:17.17 | JeffM2501 | what's the code say? |
| 23:17.25 | L4m3r | JeffM2501: spamming asshat is back, in #bzchat |
| 23:20.04 | JeffM2501 | mib_k9mtfu: I belive it's how long the transition is |
| 23:25.15 | catay | Should a new event (idban event) also be added to the NEWS file ? |
| 23:25.38 | JeffM2501 | sure |
| 23:25.40 | JeffM2501 | why not |
| 23:26.09 | catay | because I didnt see any others in it :) |
| 23:30.09 | CIA-32 | BZFlag: 03catay * r17042 10/trunk/bzflag/ (NEWS include/bzfsAPI.h src/bzfs/BanCommands.cxx): Added new BZFS API event bz_eIdBanEvent. |
| 23:37.24 | blast007 | JeffM2501: I reverted to 17030 (just before the ares upgrade) and I can run now |
| 23:37.49 | blast007 | catay: you killed CIA! |
| 23:37.51 | blast007 | ;) |
| 23:37.51 | JeffM2501 | yep... bad bad ares |
| 23:38.07 | JeffM2501 | how does one swap tabs in the chat? |
| 23:38.18 | blast007 | Shift+F1/2/3/4 |
| 23:38.41 | catay | blast007: hehe |
| 23:43.41 | donny_baker | JeffM2501: and hitting the tab that is currently selected toggles the text on and off |
| 23:46.06 | JeffM2501 | thanks |
| 23:48.09 | blast007 | which is sorta stupid |
| 23:48.17 | blast007 | I'd rather it just turn off the whole panel |
| 23:48.36 | blast007 | JeffM2501: I have an OpenFFA server and a replay server up and running |
| 23:48.52 | blast007 | and added 'replay' and 'record' rights to the developers groups |
| 23:48.54 | blast007 | group* |
| 23:50.21 | JeffM2501 | k |
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