| 00:00.18 | awilcox | ISA, you can just type in the Web sites you don't want cached...to be honest, though I do know it for 'experiences' sake, I *hate* conf files...every single server has its own conf format, with special keywords and special input constraints... |
| 00:01.01 | a_meteorite | it should also really respect http headers |
| 00:01.18 | spldart | Thus people getting entrenched in the use of one type or the other.. cuz that's what they are used too |
| 00:01.29 | spldart | meh... sry about grammar/sp |
| 00:02.57 | spldart | oops... added the wrong rule to his router |
| 00:03.11 | blast007 | heh |
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| 00:03.45 | awilcox | >_> Stupid mibbit. What was the last thing you saw me say? |
| 00:03.59 | spldart | your paragraph on ISA |
| 00:04.00 | blast007 | 18:00:18 < awilcox> I hate you all. |
| 00:04.06 | spldart | LMAO |
| 00:04.24 | awilcox | haha, I don't remember saying that |
| 00:04.35 | blast007 | that's what drinking too much does |
| 00:04.44 | blast007 | anger and forgetting stuff |
| 00:04.51 | awilcox | So you saw what I said about the 25 shell languages? |
| 00:04.52 | spldart | I'm working on a nice case of drinking to much right now :-D |
| 00:05.06 | blast007 | awilcox: nope, didn't see that |
| 00:05.08 | spldart | shell.. languages? |
| 00:05.12 | awilcox | I said --> ISA, you can just type in the Web sites you don't want cached...to be honest, though I do know it for 'experiences' sake, I *hate* conf files. Every single server has its own conf format, with special keywords and special input constraints...with Windows it's dialogue boxes. Though you still have to know what you're typing in, you don't have to learn 25 shell-script-like languages to configure the stupid thing |
| 00:05.13 | blast007 | last thing was about the conf files |
| 00:05.28 | spldart | woah |
| 00:05.30 | a_meteorite | if you speak 25 languages, I guess' that scool |
| 00:05.37 | spldart | we only got part of that paragraph |
| 00:05.54 | a_meteorite | *that's cool |
| 00:06.15 | blast007 | spldart: he probably combined them when he reposted ;) |
| 00:06.38 | spldart | Oez_Noez... Now I Ass_umed |
| 00:07.47 | a_meteorite | :\ |
| 00:07.55 | spldart | :/ |
| 00:14.22 | awilcox | blast007: is that really how I came off? :( |
| 00:14.40 | blast007 | hmm? |
| 00:15.10 | blast007 | oh, that, no |
| 00:15.24 | blast007 | I'm just being my usual sarcastic self |
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| 00:16.55 | tj13810 | how do i set up global groups? |
| 00:17.49 | blast007 | do you already have them? |
| 00:18.50 | tj13810 | no |
| 00:19.00 | tj13810 | i want them though, i can't make people admin without giving a password |
| 00:20.06 | blast007 | you can request them on the forum |
| 00:20.17 | tj13810 | my own or someone elses? |
| 00:20.17 | blast007 | I think under the Server General Discussion forum |
| 00:20.23 | tj13810 | ok |
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| 00:20.42 | tj13810 | how long does that take, and how do i make an admin and admin without giving out my password |
| 00:20.45 | blast007 | the first post on that thread should tell you how |
| 00:20.51 | AAA_awright | tj13810: Why do you need global groups when local groups do the same thing? |
| 00:20.59 | blast007 | AAA_awright: they don't |
| 00:21.04 | tj13810 | i can't make people admin |
| 00:21.10 | blast007 | local groups are tied to a callsign, and global groups are tied to the bzid |
| 00:21.12 | tj13810 | they need the password to my server |
| 00:21.22 | AAA_awright | Is it -public? |
| 00:21.27 | tj13810 | yeas |
| 00:21.36 | blast007 | global groups are easier and better |
| 00:21.40 | AAA_awright | You can create a list of people locally to put into groups then. |
| 00:21.58 | blast007 | tj13810: http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=11774 |
| 00:22.06 | tj13810 | how would i go about getting my own global group TJ.(group types)? |
| 00:22.07 | AAA_awright | Easier? You need to edit a text file. It isn't hard to figure out. |
| 00:22.34 | blast007 | AAA_awright: easier to maintain |
| 00:22.44 | blast007 | if someone changes their callsign, you have to update a local group |
| 00:22.53 | blast007 | global group doesn't care about the name |
| 00:22.58 | blast007 | it cares about the bzid |
| 00:23.08 | JeffM2501 | and once we have the global group manager, we'll have lots of fun new options ;) |
| 00:23.17 | blast007 | :) |
| 00:23.24 | JeffM2501 | the GGM should be awesome |
| 00:23.36 | blast007 | GGM? |
| 00:23.43 | blast007 | oh.. |
| 00:24.01 | AAA_awright | I just realized, what is wrong with an automatic bzbb group creator? |
| 00:24.08 | AAA_awright | Is it not worth it? |
| 00:24.46 | JeffM2501 | it wasnt' designed for what we use it for |
| 00:24.54 | JeffM2501 | we want/need a more nested soltution |
| 00:25.04 | AAA_awright | Ah |
| 00:25.08 | JeffM2501 | one where more then one user can manage the groups for a server/orginisation |
| 00:25.20 | JeffM2501 | right now admins have to make them |
| 00:25.29 | JeffM2501 | there is no protection against confilcting names, etc.. |
| 00:25.40 | JeffM2501 | the GGM will basicly let users do it all |
| 00:25.51 | AAA_awright | What about org names? |
| 00:25.55 | JeffM2501 | you register an org name, and it manages all the groups under the name |
| 00:26.02 | JeffM2501 | it makes sure they are unique |
| 00:26.14 | JeffM2501 | so you'd regers somethign like AAA_SERV |
| 00:26.29 | JeffM2501 | and you'd get AAA_Serv.owner, and .op, etc.. |
| 00:26.33 | JeffM2501 | as many sub groups as you want |
| 00:26.38 | AAA_awright | What stops me from taking someone else's network name as my org? |
| 00:26.47 | JeffM2501 | whoever registers it first gets it |
| 00:26.51 | JeffM2501 | just like usernames |
| 00:26.54 | AAA_awright | :/ |
| 00:27.01 | AAA_awright | Common sense then. |
| 00:27.03 | JeffM2501 | what prevents it now? |
| 00:27.49 | AAA_awright | I think you would get suspisious if I wanted a global group "MoFo.owneradmin" |
| 00:27.52 | JeffM2501 | the big feature is the .owner group that will be automaticly made. Anyone in .owner can manage any of the otehr groups. |
| 00:27.57 | JeffM2501 | AAA_awright, not really |
| 00:28.05 | JeffM2501 | we don't check them |
| 00:28.31 | JeffM2501 | we'll port the existing groups, so that should take care of the major names |
| 00:29.15 | JeffM2501 | in all ways, it's better then what we have now |
| 00:29.30 | AAA_awright | Oh? Could you give me a global group, right now, called "DIVI.Owner" (jk, jk) |
| 00:29.42 | JeffM2501 | probably allready exists |
| 00:29.52 | AAA_awright | It doesn't, though DIVI.Admin does. |
| 00:30.12 | JeffM2501 | turnign the merge we'd have to sort out any conficts |
| 00:30.19 | Erroneous | if there's a conflict we can resolve it |
| 00:30.22 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 00:30.26 | AAA_awright | I guess I couldn't do much harm even if I did get such a name. |
| 00:30.28 | AAA_awright | True. |
| 00:30.42 | Erroneous | i.e. if you asked for a divi group and we gave it to you, and they noticed, we have everything in the request logs |
| 00:30.42 | JeffM2501 | but if we had the GGM, in your case you coudl not register DIVI.anything cus DIVI.admin is allready there |
| 00:30.50 | JeffM2501 | so we at least get some protection. |
| 00:31.29 | JeffM2501 | it dosnt' solve every possible problem, but it sure as heck solves more then we do now ;) |
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| 00:38.23 | Saturos | JeffM2501, brlcad : one of you here? |
| 00:38.25 | Saturos | I wonder if anybody cut out those little reminders from the bottom of last years flyer. |
| 00:38.43 | Saturos | And further if its worth doing them again or if its a waste of space. |
| 00:39.49 | JeffM2501 | I am |
| 00:39.55 | JeffM2501 | Saturos, I don't know if we have that info |
| 00:39.59 | JeffM2501 | we had other people put them up |
| 00:40.01 | JeffM2501 | not us |
| 00:40.20 | Saturos | yeah.. I assumed that |
| 00:40.22 | JeffM2501 | it's a nice idea |
| 00:40.29 | JeffM2501 | so people can take it with them |
| 00:40.32 | Saturos | k, I'll stay with them |
| 00:40.39 | JeffM2501 | they don't have to be huge tho |
| 00:41.30 | JeffM2501 | Saturos, do you have the SVG or a high res PNG of the icon image? |
| 00:42.07 | Saturos | there's an svg without color, just the tank's shape and border |
| 00:42.16 | JeffM2501 | what do you have with color? |
| 00:42.27 | Saturos | I'll go search |
| 00:42.38 | JeffM2501 | and maybe a shot at a tshirt design |
| 00:42.42 | Erroneous | shouldn't be hard to add color |
| 00:42.53 | Erroneous | grab a copy of inkscape |
| 00:42.55 | JeffM2501 | his color is cool |
| 00:42.59 | JeffM2501 | inscape BLOWS |
| 00:43.01 | JeffM2501 | seriously |
| 00:43.07 | JeffM2501 | I was trying to use it last night |
| 00:43.08 | Saturos | I love it |
| 00:43.20 | Erroneous | blows how? I was fairly impressed by it |
| 00:43.21 | JeffM2501 | illustrator it is not :) |
| 00:43.23 | Saturos | inkscape is so much more intuitive and usable than illustrator |
| 00:43.29 | JeffM2501 | oh it's impresive software wise |
| 00:43.37 | JeffM2501 | but like gimp it needs some interface help |
| 00:43.43 | JeffM2501 | but I may be too adobe centric |
| 00:43.47 | Saturos | I agree concerning gimp |
| 00:43.48 | Erroneous | heh. illustrator needs help :P |
| 00:43.49 | JeffM2501 | it's better then gimp |
| 00:44.04 | Saturos | we had to work with illu in school and I was hating it so much |
| 00:44.05 | JeffM2501 | Saturos, what I've done so far |
| 00:44.06 | JeffM2501 | http://www.opencombat.net/files/images/brown_shirt_4_color.png |
| 00:44.14 | JeffM2501 | http://www.opencombat.net/files/images/green_shirt_2_Color.png |
| 00:44.22 | JeffM2501 | illustrator makes sense to me |
| 00:44.28 | Winny | hey, I thought you said 2 bit |
| 00:44.45 | Saturos | heh, nice |
| 00:44.46 | JeffM2501 | Winny, I said more colors would cost more |
| 00:44.49 | JeffM2501 | that is all ;) |
| 00:44.53 | Winny | grr ;P |
| 00:44.54 | Saturos | I dont like the font being italic though |
| 00:44.57 | JeffM2501 | I think we can probalby look at 2 color |
| 00:45.00 | Erroneous | hmph, the ground should be green :P |
| 00:45.03 | JeffM2501 | Saturos, I don't like the font |
| 00:45.05 | JeffM2501 | Erroneous, maybew |
| 00:45.13 | Saturos | stencil (is it stencil?) doesnt look good in italic |
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| 00:45.18 | JeffM2501 | I want to make one more mod to the tank |
| 00:45.23 | JeffM2501 | that's a new ish tank |
| 00:45.29 | knoxcorner | anyone here admin at missle wars? |
| 00:45.30 | Saturos | I just blendered a tank with covered treads |
| 00:45.32 | JeffM2501 | Saturos, yeah, I was just playing around. |
| 00:45.32 | Winny | hi there |
| 00:45.36 | Winny | whats up knoxcorner? |
| 00:45.39 | awilcox | knoxcorner: http://pastebin.bzflag.bz/ |
| 00:45.51 | JeffM2501 | Saturos, that's a fixed up real tank for 3.0 |
| 00:45.57 | JeffM2501 | http://www.opencombat.net/files/images/tank1.wrl |
| 00:46.01 | knoxcorner | thanx |
| 00:46.13 | Winny | knoxcorner, what is it? |
| 00:46.30 | knoxcorner | Somebody keeps team capturing our flag |
| 00:46.43 | Winny | isn't that the idea of capture the flag..? |
| 00:46.57 | knoxcorner | Hes capturing his/our own flag |
| 00:47.17 | Winny | oh, heh, what team? |
| 00:47.29 | knoxcorner | red |
| 00:47.43 | knoxcorner | No bans are working.... |
| 00:47.55 | JeffM2501 | now I will say inkscape is better then Photoshop elements. |
| 00:48.14 | Saturos | http://saturos.de/s/covered.jpg |
| 00:48.28 | Saturos | now for the icon... |
| 00:48.38 | JeffM2501 | ahh you took the covers lower then I did |
| 00:48.52 | Saturos | biggest one I can find is 419x410 |
| 00:48.58 | Saturos | *419x419 |
| 00:49.00 | JeffM2501 | better then 256 :) |
| 00:50.03 | Saturos | http://dev.saturos.de/bzicon_red.png |
| 00:50.15 | JeffM2501 | thank you sir |
| 00:50.30 | JeffM2501 | can I get the SVG too, for shirt ideas |
| 00:50.36 | Saturos | sure |
| 00:50.37 | JeffM2501 | while you are giving out files :) |
| 00:50.50 | JeffM2501 | tho I think I may want to try a shirt with the 3d icon |
| 00:50.54 | Saturos | ew.. where is it? |
| 00:51.00 | JeffM2501 | I kinda like how that ended up looking |
| 00:51.04 | Saturos | 3d? I'll show you 3d |
| 00:51.09 | JeffM2501 | hah |
| 00:51.13 | Winny | JeffM2501, ooh |
| 00:51.19 | Winny | do you still have that 3d model around? |
| 00:51.28 | Winny | I can't find out where I put mine |
| 00:51.57 | Saturos | http://saturos.de/s/icon3d2.jpg |
| 00:52.30 | Saturos | http://saturos.de/s/bzicon3d_grunge2.jpg |
| 00:53.07 | JeffM2501 | Saturos, I like that last image |
| 00:53.15 | JeffM2501 | but I mean the one that looks more like a tank |
| 00:53.50 | JeffM2501 | this one http://www.blogger.com/profile/03904226290405736334 |
| 00:54.11 | Saturos | ah, I see |
| 00:54.11 | JeffM2501 | Winny, what model? |
| 00:54.21 | Winny | http://bp2.blogger.com/_rqhhi665igo/R8OTzkDLEcI/AAAAAAAAABs/kCFpmY65KSs/S220-h/tanky.png |
| 00:54.23 | Winny | that |
| 00:54.42 | JeffM2501 | yeah IIRC it's part of GPX |
| 00:55.33 | Winny | k |
| 00:56.16 | Saturos | http://dev.saturos.de/icon_perspective.svg |
| 00:56.26 | Saturos | thats all I can find right now |
| 00:56.48 | JeffM2501 | better then nothin |
| 00:56.48 | JeffM2501 | thanks |
| 00:56.50 | Saturos | dunno where the flat one is... but you can easily trace it in illustrator from the png |
| 00:56.55 | a_meteorite | Saturos: ahh, I like bzicon3d_grunge2.jpg |
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| 00:58.32 | Saturos | while we are on it.. I think I never shows this one either: http://saturos.de/s/oooh-hix.jpg . but its more for the hix people |
| 00:58.37 | Saturos | *showed |
| 00:59.04 | Winny | the texturing on the tank could be better ;) |
| 00:59.41 | Saturos | yeah, I know nothing about texturing |
| 00:59.55 | Saturos | I always choose either flat or cube and hope it goes well |
| 00:59.57 | JeffM2501 | Winny, http://www.opencombat.net/files/gpx01/data/model/ico-tank/ |
| 01:00.13 | Winny | Saturos, do you ever use any external render engines (IE: besides internal and yafray)? If you wanted to look into one, I'd reccomend indigo |
| 01:00.22 | JeffM2501 | the 3.0 tank will be textured better ;) |
| 01:00.31 | Saturos | no, I always render with blenders internal |
| 01:00.50 | Saturos | yafray doesnt seem to work and indigo isnt for mac last time I checked |
| 01:01.14 | Winny | hmm, I wonder if he's released a mac build yet.. was suppost to a few months ago I think |
| 01:01.34 | Winny | ahh, no, darn :( |
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| 01:02.22 | test | who is using my nick? |
| 01:02.37 | JeffM2501 | test, well considering we can't read your mind, we don't know |
| 01:02.38 | JeffM2501 | what nic? |
| 01:02.45 | test | scorch |
| 01:02.53 | JeffM2501 | probably someone named scorch |
| 01:02.58 | JeffM2501 | did you register it? |
| 01:03.02 | Winny | test, freenode has over 40,000 users :) |
| 01:03.03 | Erroneous | a gentoo fellow |
| 01:03.09 | test | winny? |
| 01:03.10 | JeffM2501 | and remember IRC is more then just BZFlag |
| 01:03.15 | Winny | that's my name |
| 01:03.28 | test | that's interesting because I was just reading your pm |
| 01:03.35 | test | from like a million years ago |
| 01:03.46 | Winny | hmm? |
| 01:03.49 | Saturos | you had a red animated dragon as your bzbb avatar, right? |
| 01:03.52 | test | btw jeff, if it tells me someones using my nick.... is that just here or all of IRC? |
| 01:04.03 | test | I don't remember, maybe |
| 01:04.03 | Winny | on all of freenode |
| 01:04.06 | JeffM2501 | test,that's just for freenode |
| 01:04.16 | test | how is test not used? |
| 01:04.22 | JeffM2501 | cus it's a stupid name |
| 01:04.29 | Saturos | hehe |
| 01:04.44 | test | yup, it's you all right |
| 01:04.45 | Erroneous | test was on 6 days ago, but is no longer |
| 01:04.58 | Erroneous | if he came back, you would get kicked off |
| 01:05.02 | JeffM2501 | just because you registered on bzbb as a name, dosn't mean that it's regisered here |
| 01:05.10 | scroch | i know |
| 01:06.47 | scroch | this place is full of coincidences, first i find vinny right after reading years old pm, then i type $corch and it says it's an erroneous nick and there's someone here named erroneous |
| 01:06.53 | scroch | confucing |
| 01:07.00 | scroch | well, the wiki looks nice |
| 01:07.13 | JeffM2501 | yes it does, donny worked quite hard on it |
| 01:07.22 | Winny | ~donny_baker++ |
| 01:07.27 | JeffM2501 | indeed |
| 01:07.30 | Saturos | heh, I need a high-res scan of an old, yellowish book page |
| 01:07.32 | Saturos | nreally old |
| 01:07.32 | Winny | as well as everyone else who worked(s) on it |
| 01:07.41 | scroch | cool |
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| 01:08.37 | scroch | well I'm going to go game, cya |
| 01:08.46 | JeffM2501 | Winny, if you are doing shirt desings, know that the current colors for the shirt are olive green, military green, or black. |
| 01:09.06 | JeffM2501 | could also maybe be convinced of a tan or brown. |
| 01:09.11 | JeffM2501 | but not one of the team colors. |
| 01:09.19 | Saturos | sounds like camouflage |
| 01:09.24 | JeffM2501 | that's the point ;) |
| 01:09.29 | Saturos | yay, found a book from 1796.. nice |
| 01:09.31 | JeffM2501 | and military, tank.. kinda thing |
| 01:09.35 | Saturos | alright, lets scan! |
| 01:10.02 | Winny | what about dark brown? |
| 01:10.04 | Winny | oh |
| 01:10.05 | TJ13820 | thanks to all who helped me earlier. I have my server up and running 4:00 eastern daily (Utopian Battlezone) |
| 01:10.05 | JeffM2501 | maybe |
| 01:10.10 | Winny | didn't read your next line |
| 01:10.13 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 01:10.24 | Winny | ~flog m |
| 01:10.25 | ibot | ACTION whips m with a cat-5 o' nine tails |
| 01:10.28 | JeffM2501 | and what I'm thinking is, big logo on back, URL on the sleve |
| 01:10.43 | JeffM2501 | then for long sleve if we do em, logo on back, URL on breast pocket |
| 01:10.50 | JeffM2501 | and for hoodie, logo and URL on the back. |
| 01:10.59 | Saturos | yay for hoodies |
| 01:11.19 | JeffM2501 | oddly enough Erroneous is wearing the same brand/model hoodie they use :) |
| 01:11.34 | Winny | Fleece? :) |
| 01:11.40 | Winny | hmm, that wouldn't work well |
| 01:11.49 | JeffM2501 | yeah can't be fuzyy |
| 01:11.58 | Winny | darn, /me lives in fleece |
| 01:12.01 | JeffM2501 | the roughest stuff they print on is waffle weave thermal |
| 01:12.36 | JeffM2501 | if this works out well, we should do a number of printings on various types of shirts, and eventualy do team color shirts, etc.. |
| 01:12.52 | JeffM2501 | I'd love to see a set of team colored football shirts |
| 01:14.03 | Winny | hehe |
| 01:14.20 | Winny | the problem is, how many nerds play football? ;) |
| 01:14.29 | JeffM2501 | it's not play |
| 01:14.37 | JeffM2501 | it's want to LOOK like they play ;) |
| 01:14.41 | Winny | :p |
| 01:14.54 | JeffM2501 | and nerds know all about dressing to impress :) |
| 01:19.30 | Saturos | wow, that scan is awesome |
| 01:22.02 | Saturos | http://saturos.de/s/pages.jpg <- in case somebody wants to use it: your chance to grab it. |
| 01:22.07 | Saturos | makes a good texture |
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| 01:32.42 | donny_baker | Saturos: where did you get that from some midevial library... that looks super old :P |
| 01:33.04 | Saturos | donny_baker: it claims to be from 1796 |
| 01:33.12 | Saturos | its the oldest I could find in my room |
| 01:33.12 | donny_baker | and looks it |
| 01:33.58 | donny_baker | Saturos: what is it? |
| 01:34.11 | Saturos | umm |
| 01:34.15 | donny_baker | other than a book... |
| 01:34.27 | donny_baker | novel, history |
| 01:34.43 | Saturos | yeah, I understood.. thinking how to describe it in english |
| 01:35.23 | Saturos | I think its about how to engrave (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engraving) |
| 01:35.40 | donny_baker | ah, so a technical book |
| 01:35.54 | blast007 | wonder if my OCR software can read that scan ;) |
| 01:36.14 | blast007 | though it would probably give it to me in the Wingdings font... |
| 01:36.23 | Saturos | oddly theres just one example of copper engraving in the whole thing |
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| 01:43.06 | Saturos | btw.. Winny, where did Zaa go? |
| 01:43.40 | Saturos | since his topic was deleted he is totally quiet |
| 01:45.07 | blast007 | his spaceship was "detoured" to the far side of the galaxy. |
| 01:48.39 | Winny | Saturos, not sure |
| 01:48.48 | Winny | I told him I wasn;t really interested ATM |
| 01:51.00 | blast007_nokia | JeffM2501: for the intangibility manager, does that only handle drivethrough, or does it do shootthough too? |
| 01:51.13 | JeffM2501 | only drive thru |
| 01:51.18 | JeffM2501 | shoot thru would change shots in flight |
| 01:51.22 | blast007 | k |
| 01:51.24 | blast007 | oh, right |
| 01:51.27 | JeffM2501 | so they get handled with shot updates later |
| 01:51.57 | blast007 | gonna see if I can debug why the mesh objects are broken |
| 01:52.22 | Winny | :D |
| 01:52.29 | awilcox | \o/ |
| 01:58.41 | JeffM2501 | limted edition "crap print" bzflag CD, http://www.opencombat.net/files/images/CD%20image.jpg |
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| 01:58.52 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o JBdiGriz] by ChanServ |
| 01:59.14 | Winny | nice |
| 01:59.19 | awilcox | hehe. :) |
| 02:00.18 | blast007 | I'll take 20! |
| 02:00.31 | blast007 | then resell them on eBay and make $$$ |
| 02:00.40 | JeffM2501 | dude you may have to buy that many for us to work the bugs out of the store ;) |
| 02:00.47 | blast007 | hehe |
| 02:00.53 | awilcox | haha |
| 02:00.59 | a_meteorite | why not a boxed version of BZFlag? |
| 02:01.04 | blast007 | paypal has an API test system so you don't have to use real money |
| 02:01.12 | Winny | send it in a box |
| 02:01.24 | Winny | "Designed by JeffM in California" ;P |
| 02:01.31 | blast007 | it'll be a USPS box with "BZFlag" written in magic marker |
| 02:01.33 | awilcox | lol WInny :P |
| 02:01.34 | JeffM2501 | blast007 at some point I want to test the full thing, shiping and all |
| 02:01.38 | a_meteorite | lol |
| 02:01.51 | awilcox | JeffM2501: so I finally have a useful talent for bz -- PayPal API? |
| 02:02.14 | JeffM2501 | awilcox, I am currently testing out zencart |
| 02:02.23 | JeffM2501 | and it uses paypall and USPS |
| 02:05.58 | blast007 | http://static.bzexcess.com/bzflag-se.png |
| 02:06.27 | AHA | nice use of paint to add the text :p |
| 02:06.38 | blast007 | Paint.NET ;) |
| 02:06.43 | awilcox | blast007: luls :p |
| 02:06.52 | awilcox | er...did I say that 'cool'? or is it 'lulz'? |
| 02:09.24 | JeffM2501 | http://www.opencombat.net/zenstore/index.php?main_page=document_product_info&cPath=0&products_id=3 |
| 02:09.43 | JeffM2501 | noone actualy BUY anything, cus we arn't hooked up right yet |
| 02:10.53 | donny_baker | the tanks is off center... better fix that for production :P |
| 02:11.19 | donny_baker | or move the hole in the cd |
| 02:12.14 | JeffM2501 | donny_baker, READ the description |
| 02:12.22 | awilcox | looooooooooooooooooool |
| 02:12.24 | JeffM2501 | that's part of the limited editionness of it |
| 02:13.06 | donny_baker | yeah i did... that was why i commented about fixing it for production, although I like the idea of just moving the hole better |
| 02:13.14 | JeffM2501 | ohh yeah the label sucks |
| 02:13.27 | JeffM2501 | want to know how limted they are? |
| 02:13.42 | donny_baker | one? |
| 02:13.46 | JeffM2501 | TWO! |
| 02:13.48 | Think_Differentl | 0? |
| 02:13.53 | JeffM2501 | that's how many are on a sheet |
| 02:14.05 | donny_baker | yeah, hate to have a single label on a sheet of 2 |
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| 02:14.39 | JeffM2501 | figure I'll redo the label and put the icon on one side, and some smaller info on the others, like OS logos, sf, etc.. |
| 02:14.41 | JeffM2501 | for a real one |
| 02:15.02 | JeffM2501 | and use a printer that dosn't smudge |
| 02:16.09 | DTRemenak | heh, "Limted" edition |
| 02:16.23 | JeffM2501 | makes it even more special |
| 02:16.55 | Winny | Ultimate signed edition! signed by TimRiker himself! :p |
| 02:17.45 | blast007 | make sure to spell the last name wrong |
| 02:17.47 | JeffM2501 | heh, it even does reviews |
| 02:17.52 | blast007 | Tim Rickers |
| 02:18.03 | JeffM2501 | blast007 dude, I'm a sticker for details, you know I'd make sure of it ;) |
| 02:18.11 | blast007 | hehe |
| 02:19.45 | JeffM2501 | the only things left I think I would like to customise with the cart system would be making the categories just list stuff like apperel, software, etc.. |
| 02:20.02 | JeffM2501 | and put a better listing of items on the main page |
| 02:20.52 | JeffM2501 | but all in all, it came out prety good for not much work |
| 02:21.09 | Winny | :) |
| 02:21.40 | JeffM2501 | your header image is proving to be very versitale |
| 02:21.57 | Winny | haha, I think Ill need to make a new one if we eventualy do redo the site |
| 02:22.02 | Winny | it's everywhere |
| 02:22.49 | blast007 | then I can start planning the other stuff :P |
| 02:22.53 | Winny | :) |
| 02:23.19 | Winny | are you going with drupal or no? I have a 1/2 finished drupal template sitting here that's been getting slowly done over the past few months |
| 02:23.27 | Winny | not sure if I should do any more |
| 02:23.28 | blast007 | meh, I don't know |
| 02:23.29 | JeffM2501 | nothing else has changed with it |
| 02:23.39 | JeffM2501 | it's all where everyone left it |
| 02:23.50 | blast007 | JeffM2501: what is? |
| 02:24.18 | JeffM2501 | all that main page stuff |
| 02:24.32 | blast007 | I don't think we need as much as drupal provides |
| 02:24.38 | JeffM2501 | probably not |
| 02:24.39 | blast007 | it's almost overkill |
| 02:25.03 | blast007 | we need a login page, registration, news, and a page system |
| 02:25.10 | JeffM2501 | indeed |
| 02:25.11 | blast007 | and maybe user profiles right there |
| 02:25.23 | JeffM2501 | and links to the group manager and other shizzle |
| 02:25.27 | blast007 | yeah |
| 02:25.38 | Winny | wordpress, then? ;) |
| 02:26.24 | blast007 | Winny: well, the login/registration will be (at some point) tied to LDAP |
| 02:26.34 | Winny | wp can do ldap |
| 02:26.41 | awilcox | ooh pick me, I do ldap! |
| 02:26.47 | Winny | bbl. |
| 02:26.53 | JeffM2501 | awilcox, do you honestly want to do something? |
| 02:26.56 | blast007 | Winny: but can it do the creation of LDAP users? |
| 02:27.09 | Winny | I believe so |
| 02:27.17 | Winny | Ill check later, gotta go for a bit |
| 02:27.21 | blast007 | k |
| 02:27.30 | awilcox | JeffM2501: yes :( |
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| 02:27.34 | Winny | it's a plugin, might find it on wordpress.org |
| 02:27.47 | JeffM2501 | awilcox, how about taking an item off the bug list ( updating the network docs ) |
| 02:27.49 | Saturos | hey whodaman |
| 02:28.08 | whodaman- | good morning Saturos |
| 02:28.18 | whodaman- | auch noch wach ;) |
| 02:28.23 | Saturos | ja, leider |
| 02:28.50 | awilcox | oh not the German Brothers again ;) |
| 02:29.09 | whodaman- | heh |
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| 02:45.08 | Saturos | whodaman-: , was heißtn auf englisch "sich stellen"? Also bspw. sich der Polizei stellen? |
| 02:46.00 | whodaman- | Saturos, hm, 'To surrender to the police' |
| 02:46.17 | Saturos | ich hab "to deliver oneself up" gefunden |
| 02:46.54 | whodaman- | Also, in dem Kontext mit der Polizei is meins besser :P |
| 02:47.00 | Saturos | hmm |
| 02:47.30 | Saturos | versteht man das auch ohne police? |
| 02:47.32 | Saturos | naja, muss ich mal sehen |
| 02:47.35 | Saturos | danke auf jeden fall |
| 02:47.37 | whodaman- | ja |
| 02:48.18 | whodaman- | Kein Ding |
| 02:48.21 | Saturos | kann man sagen "hurry up and surrender at: <irc-channel>, <website>? |
| 02:49.03 | awilcox | What in the world are you guys talking about?! |
| 02:49.38 | whodaman- | Saturos, hm, das wiederrum is komisch. lass mich mal ein Moment nachdenken |
| 02:50.06 | Saturos | Ich mache im Wesentlichen ein Fahndungsplakat und das soll halt der letzte Satz werden. |
| 02:50.53 | blast007 | awilcox: they are talking about you |
| 02:50.58 | blast007 | ;) |
| 02:51.12 | whodaman- | maybe "hurry up and meet the challenge at: <channel> or on irc" |
| 02:51.39 | Saturos | also es geht darum, dass der gesuchte sich so schnell wie möglich stellen soll... passt deins dann? |
| 02:52.13 | whodaman- | meet/rise to a/the challenge = sich einer Herausforderung stellen |
| 02:53.21 | Saturos | ok, das scheint gut zu sein |
| 02:53.21 | whodaman- | Also, passt es eigentlich schon |
| 02:53.25 | whodaman- | k |
| 02:53.35 | Saturos | merci beaucoup |
| 02:53.42 | whodaman- | BTW |
| 02:53.44 | awilcox | Hey I understand that one! |
| 02:53.57 | awilcox | parlez-vous Francais? |
| 02:54.06 | whodaman- | Deins waere auch gegangen...eigentlich "hurry up and surrender to #bzflag" |
| 02:54.14 | whodaman- | blast007, what's better? |
| 02:54.42 | blast007 | "Hurry up and surrender to blast007. You have no chance of winning." |
| 02:54.49 | whodaman- | .... |
| 02:54.50 | whodaman- | "hurry up an surrender to <channel>" or "hurry up and meet the challenge at #bzflag" |
| 02:54.51 | awilcox | Rofl. |
| 02:55.08 | blast007 | what is this for? |
| 02:55.21 | whodaman- | Saturos, is das nicht fuer den Flyer? |
| 02:55.22 | awilcox | whodaman-: depends on whether you want to use FUD or not |
| 02:55.25 | Saturos | dont ask, answer his qquestion :p |
| 02:55.52 | whodaman- | awilcox, FUD? |
| 02:56.00 | Saturos | whodaman-: ja, aber das muss noch nicht jeder so genau wissen |
| 02:56.12 | whodaman- | k |
| 02:56.13 | Saturos | zum Glück raffen die alle kein Deutsch |
| 02:56.21 | awilcox | whodaman-: Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt. A marketing tactic invented by Microsoft. |
| 02:56.26 | whodaman- | joar, is schon cool |
| 02:56.43 | whodaman- | awilcox, nice |
| 02:57.04 | whodaman- | How good of me not to know what it is ;) |
| 02:57.08 | awilcox | then use Surrender to #bzflag |
| 02:57.33 | blast007 | if it's for the GSoC flyer, I'd say "meet the challenge" |
| 02:57.39 | awilcox | whodaman-: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear%2C_uncertainty_and_doubt |
| 02:57.49 | whodaman- | awilcox, yes, I'm there too |
| 02:58.00 | whodaman- | "rise to the challenge at #bzflag" |
| 02:58.08 | blast007 | I like that |
| 02:58.11 | whodaman- | Yeah |
| 02:58.27 | whodaman- | Saturos, nehm "hurry up and rise to the challenge at #bzflag" |
| 02:58.32 | Saturos | alright |
| 02:58.34 | Saturos | thanks |
| 02:58.43 | blast007 | "Get off your couch. Rise to the challenge! No no, leave the potatoe chips there.." |
| 02:58.44 | whodaman- | kein problem |
| 02:58.53 | whodaman- | heh |
| 02:59.15 | awilcox | haha. |
| 02:59.34 | whodaman- | mmhm...chips |
| 03:00.51 | awilcox | <h1>Rise to the challenge!</h1> <div span="flyer-body">Do you have what it takes to make a great three-dimensional rendering engine? To add new and exciting features to a well-established game? Then Rise To the Challenege at #BZFlag.</div> |
| 03:01.43 | whodaman- | too many challenges :P |
| 03:01.49 | whodaman- | they'll throw it out |
| 03:01.57 | Saturos | <div span=...? huh? |
| 03:02.31 | blast007 | awilcox: if only the flyer was being made in HTML :P |
| 03:02.49 | whodaman- | heh |
| 03:03.17 | awilcox | eh, I was just trying to make a point that Rise to the challenge should be b ig and the rest should be in flyer-body text |
| 03:03.30 | awilcox | s/b ig/big/ |
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| 03:07.16 | JeffM | her name is rio and she dances across the sand. |
| 03:08.35 | awilcox | Just like that river, twistin through a dusty land |
| 03:23.50 | JeffM | think this is priced correctly? http://www.opencombat.net/zenstore/index.php?main_page=product_music_info&cPath=0&products_id=4 |
| 03:24.22 | awilcox | zomg! |
| 03:24.34 | JeffM | too much? |
| 03:24.40 | JeffM | 12.50$? |
| 03:25.06 | blast007_nokia | lol |
| 03:25.20 | whodaman- | lol |
| 03:25.30 | JeffM | the SF pic was perfect |
| 03:25.34 | blast007_nokia | how much is shipping? :P |
| 03:25.41 | awilcox | Oh didn't think about that. |
| 03:25.43 | whodaman- | hahaha |
| 03:26.20 | JeffM | well I put him at 200 lbs |
| 03:26.31 | awilcox | Eesh. |
| 03:26.31 | JeffM | so whatever USPS wants for that |
| 03:26.40 | awilcox | USPS won't ship over 50fps. |
| 03:26.41 | awilcox | Er. |
| 03:26.43 | awilcox | *50 lbs |
| 03:26.54 | awilcox | Ypi |
| 03:27.05 | awilcox | You'll have to do UPS freight -- it'd be maybe 400% |
| 03:27.08 | awilcox | 400$ |
| 03:27.12 | awilcox | >_> can't type tonight |
| 03:27.23 | whodaman- | well on that note |
| 03:27.24 | whodaman- | g'night |
| 03:27.29 | awilcox | gnight |
| 03:28.17 | awilcox | aww I have to log in? |
| 03:28.51 | blast007_nokia | hehe... |
| 03:29.04 | JeffM | well it IS a real store |
| 03:30.02 | awilcox | my review would have been "Eh" ** of ***** "Fair quality merchandise, but a tad overpriced. And imo, BZFlag could make a fortune if they bundled this with mouthwash and a breathmint." |
| 03:31.08 | blast007_nokia | "your mom kisses better" |
| 03:31.15 | awilcox | JeffM: Actually that's not a bad idea. Can you do combo deals with this software? |
| 03:31.18 | JeffM | I should make it only have COD |
| 03:31.25 | JeffM | awilcox, techincaly |
| 03:31.51 | blast007_nokia | c-c-c-combo breaker!! |
| 03:32.19 | awilcox | You pay the profits to justify your reasons. |
| 03:32.50 | blast007_nokia | oh geez, it added c-c-c-combo to my autocomplete database... |
| 03:33.19 | awilcox | blast007_nokia: loool |
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| 03:35.17 | awilcox | the only problem is, like JeffM, I'd prolly end up stuck with whatever I buy |
| 03:35.20 | JeffM | it won't work |
| 03:35.32 | JeffM | payment isn't set up right |
| 03:35.33 | awilcox | and eh no offense but no thank you :P |
| 03:37.37 | awilcox | JeffM: oh I fumbled around the Tracker and couldn't find anything about writing network documentation...is there anything specific, or should I just start writing about it? plain-text, Word DOC, Open ODF, TeX? |
| 03:37.50 | JeffM | it's in the BUGS file |
| 03:37.52 | JeffM | not the tracker |
| 03:37.59 | JeffM | it's a C file |
| 03:38.01 | JeffM | with comments |
| 03:38.16 | awilcox | and is this for trunk or branch? |
| 03:38.24 | JeffM | trunk |
| 03:38.26 | JeffM | branch == dead |
| 03:38.30 | awilcox | oh okay. |
| 03:38.50 | awilcox | and I meant the documentation...should I write it in plain-text, Word DOC, odf, TeX, etc? |
| 03:38.57 | awilcox | I might still have my PDF converter |
| 03:39.07 | JeffM | update what is there |
| 03:39.13 | JeffM | go read the item in the BUGS list |
| 03:39.19 | JeffM | it'll say |
| 03:41.49 | awilcox | oh, it's an XML DocBook...I can do that |
| 03:41.57 | awilcox | ooh, four years old...fun |
| 03:42.24 | JeffM | well how old do you think 2.0 is? ;) |
| 03:43.35 | Saturos | Short question: Is this total crap or visually appealing? I am too tired to draw a conclusion. |
| 03:43.37 | Saturos | http://saturos.de/s/wanted.jpg |
| 03:44.11 | JeffM | DAMN |
| 03:44.12 | JeffM | you are good |
| 03:44.17 | JeffM | I like it |
| 03:44.23 | Saturos | phew |
| 03:44.49 | Saturos | Sadly no place for the reminders and it'll consume A LOT of ink when printing on inkjets. |
| 03:45.01 | awilcox | that's really awesome |
| 03:45.06 | JeffM | maybe do one with out the colored background |
| 03:46.01 | Saturos | good idea... or make it a very light grey. so that there is some structure |
| 03:46.48 | Saturos | eek, I've been sitting on that for six hours straight |
| 03:51.04 | Winny | what grunge brush do you use, Saturos? |
| 03:51.07 | Winny | or is it custom? |
| 03:51.15 | Saturos | oh, lots of |
| 03:51.20 | Saturos | mainly angryblue |
| 03:52.15 | Saturos | super high res: http://saturos.de/s/wanted_hi.jpg |
| 03:52.30 | Saturos | umm... http://saturos.de/s/wanted_hi.png |
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| 04:03.30 | hityouback | Where do I get in touch with admin about reactivating my old username? |
| 04:04.50 | Winny | here |
| 04:04.59 | Winny | one will appear eventually |
| 04:06.11 | hityouback | I hope Its not like watching grass grow or anything . pardon |
| 04:07.15 | hityouback | I really have enjoyed bzflag |
| 04:07.30 | awilcox | more like watching seedlings turn into trees. |
| 04:07.54 | awilcox | just kidding... :p the admins will prolly see you soon |
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| 04:09.28 | Winny | ~winny |
| 04:09.29 | ibot | Winny is a bear, and a person... they're different! |
| 04:09.33 | Winny | see!! |
| 04:09.36 | awilcox | haha |
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| 04:13.17 | Saturos | JeffM: I uploaded the current thing in full resolution: http://saturos.de/s/wanted_hi.png |
| 04:13.30 | Saturos | Although I think I'll give it a few changes tomorrow. |
| 04:14.07 | JeffM | ik |
| 04:14.08 | Winny | JeffM, blast007: in case you consider wp an option: http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/wpldap/ |
| 04:14.09 | JeffM | ok |
| 04:14.22 | JeffM | I'll make sure that the burlycad sees it |
| 04:14.52 | JeffM | Winny: do we even need a full CMS? |
| 04:14.54 | Saturos | k, see you tomorrow, I'll try to get some sleep |
| 04:14.55 | awilcox | Saturos: so awesome :D |
| 04:14.59 | awilcox | Saturos: goodnight |
| 04:15.03 | Saturos | thx :) |
| 04:15.07 | JeffM | see ya satu |
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| 04:15.17 | Winny | JeffM, wodpress is pretty lightweigt |
| 04:15.29 | JeffM | that dosn't answer the question ;) |
| 04:15.31 | Winny | posting, pages, links is about all it contains |
| 04:16.02 | JeffM | the place to start is to look at what we have now |
| 04:16.06 | Winny | less code to maintain if we use an external CMS, then if someone writes a proprietary one |
| 04:16.06 | JeffM | and what we do with it |
| 04:16.11 | JeffM | then make a list of what we want to do |
| 04:16.18 | JeffM | then find a solution that fits those needs |
| 04:16.23 | JeffM | it may be wordpress |
| 04:16.28 | JeffM | it may be drupal |
| 04:16.36 | JeffM | it may be a cleanup of the code we have now |
| 04:16.40 | awilcox | Winny: but we don't have a lot of control, and trying to implement a new feature might be hard (I have no idea about wordpress API) |
| 04:16.42 | JeffM | but I don't think we can know till we do that work |
| 04:17.09 | awilcox | heck, we might be able to use MediaWiki with locking for the important pages...anything's a possibility at this point |
| 04:17.14 | Winny | since you have no idea it can't be done? :) |
| 04:17.19 | JeffM | Winny: it's not less code to maintain, cus we still have to maintain it, it's just not ours. |
| 04:17.32 | JeffM | the features may be worht that |
| 04:17.35 | JeffM | they may not |
| 04:17.50 | awilcox | and also Winny, they can find exploits in WordPress and exploit them if we don't keep up with versions |
| 04:18.06 | Winny | as with any online software :) |
| 04:18.34 | JeffM | the problem is, we have software in need of a solution, not a clear solution in need of software |
| 04:18.41 | Winny | there are also auto update plugins available |
| 04:18.42 | JeffM | this is how we got stuck on phpbb ;) |
| 04:18.46 | awilcox | Winny: basically, I have learned the hard way (JeffM prolly did too) that if you try implementing something too early, 99% of the time you have to wipe and start over, and prolly half or more uses a completely new product or even design than the original |
| 04:19.00 | JeffM | awilcox: it has nothing to do with that |
| 04:19.20 | JeffM | Winny: if you want to work on it, great. but take a step back and forget about what software package you want to use for a while |
| 04:19.25 | JeffM | and just focus on what features you want to have |
| 04:19.36 | JeffM | and how the overall site should work |
| 04:19.53 | JeffM | then you can look at various software packages to see if and how they would fit the bill |
| 04:20.21 | Winny | did you like overall http://bzfusion.net/bzflag.org/test2/index.html ? |
| 04:20.36 | JeffM | the art yes |
| 04:20.41 | JeffM | the functional layout, no |
| 04:21.38 | awilcox | Winny: You forgot "Lowest scores" and "AWOS: -509" :P |
| 04:21.52 | Winny | awilcox, this was made ages ago |
| 04:22.01 | JeffM | your focus seems to be on art, a nobile goal, but a site is more then just art ;) |
| 04:22.03 | JeffM | well |
| 04:22.07 | JeffM | unless it's an art site |
| 04:22.11 | JeffM | then yeah, art all the way |
| 04:22.15 | awilcox | hehe |
| 04:22.56 | awilcox | BZFlag 2.0.8 ?oops, Happy Mother?s Day? <-- Firefox can't render that UTF, whatever it was |
| 04:24.11 | JeffM | you can't render a quote? |
| 04:24.12 | JeffM | dude |
| 04:24.26 | awilcox | *me*? it's firefox! |
| 04:24.31 | Winny | no... |
| 04:25.29 | awilcox | it renders correctly on wikipedia |
| 04:25.47 | awilcox | it also renders correctly in the title. |
| 04:25.54 | awilcox | But in the article, they are question marks |
| 04:26.00 | JeffM | mine works fine |
| 04:26.05 | Winny | same here |
| 04:28.20 | awilcox | http://76.26.0.123/awos/pics/noquote.png |
| 04:28.38 | awilcox | er, what the bugger?! |
| 04:28.57 | awilcox | I'm not even RUNNING IIS =/ |
| 04:29.05 | Winny | can't connect |
| 04:29.16 | awilcox | mine comes up HTTP Error 404 - Internet Information Services |
| 04:29.28 | JeffM | looks like you ARE running IIS ;) |
| 04:29.30 | awilcox | which isn't even my server...me thinks there's a problem with routing here. |
| 04:29.48 | awilcox | blah, it's supposed to be forwarding to apache |
| 04:30.04 | awilcox | oh well. just imagine a fvwm95 Linux desktop, with Firefox and ? instead of " |
| 04:30.38 | awilcox | JeffM/Winny: Did you test that page on Linux? It could be some oddity with the Firefox Linux build, or the Ubuntu font set, or who knows |
| 04:30.55 | awilcox | or the character set got messed up |
| 04:31.01 | JeffM | linux sux, don't you remember? |
| 04:31.26 | awilcox | oh. no, I didn't. |
| 04:31.36 | JeffM | remember, that entire thing about openGL |
| 04:31.41 | JeffM | yeah linux totaly sucks now |
| 04:32.26 | awilcox | JeffM: I see the question marks with Windows Internet Explorer 7, too |
| 04:32.42 | JeffM | cus you've been INFECTED by linux |
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| 04:39.39 | blast007 | JeffM: better LDAP plugin for wordpress: http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/wpdirauth/ |
| 04:39.51 | blast007 | though I don't think either supports *creating* users in the LDAP |
| 04:40.05 | blast007 | it justs reads from the LDAP directory, and adds a local wordpress user |
| 04:40.15 | JeffM | ahh |
| 04:40.16 | JeffM | meh |
| 04:40.42 | blast007 | that was one reason for Drupal, since I belive it would support managing the LDAP data |
| 04:40.48 | JeffM | that would be good |
| 04:40.51 | blast007 | but that's easy enough with a custom solution too |
| 04:40.58 | blast007 | there's LDAP functions right in PHP |
| 04:40.59 | JeffM | that would be a feature, that the software solves ;) |
| 04:41.12 | JeffM | hence my desire for lists of features |
| 04:41.18 | JeffM | before software |
| 04:41.53 | blast007 | yeah ;) |
| 04:41.58 | blast007 | planning ftw |
| 04:42.21 | blast007 | I'm not even worrying about any of that yet, until I take the time to plan |
| 04:42.39 | a_meteorite | What is this "planning" you speak of? Isn't that was normal people do? |
| 04:42.50 | a_meteorite | *what |
| 04:42.52 | JeffM | hence why I find it funny that Winny keeps asking if "we've picked" one yet |
| 04:43.08 | Winny | you might be planning without us knowing |
| 04:43.19 | JeffM | it all prety much happens here |
| 04:43.31 | JeffM | unless it's something that DTRemenak and myself have big interest in |
| 04:43.35 | JeffM | then we talk about it at work |
| 04:43.52 | awilcox | a_meteorite: no, only good network engineers and software programmers plan. most everyone else sucks and doesn't plan. |
| 04:44.09 | a_meteorite | awilcox: Oh, cause this planning thing is really new for BZFlag. I always thought planning was avoided. |
| 04:44.14 | a_meteorite | ;) |
| 04:44.31 | awilcox | ;) |
| 04:44.35 | brlcad | haha, funny JeffM |
| 04:44.48 | JeffM | :) |
| 04:44.54 | JeffM | so can I have store.bzflag.bz now? |
| 04:45.23 | a_meteorite | Make sure you request a hostname, not a subdomain (if you're asking Tim). |
| 04:45.36 | JeffM | a_meteorite: what was the TLD on that |
| 04:45.50 | awilcox | oh. JeffM: Since Linux is evil, can you help me with a little Windows display problem? my title bars are translucent (?!?); things keep crashing with "Unable to allocate in desktop heap", "Out of resources"; and WORST of all, BZFlag wants to use "GDI Generic" instead of GeForce drivers. |
| 04:45.52 | a_meteorite | Oh, .bz is owned by brlcad? |
| 04:45.57 | JeffM | bingo |
| 04:46.01 | a_meteorite | Ahh, ok. |
| 04:46.26 | JeffM | awilcox: have you installed direct X 9? |
| 04:46.27 | awilcox | I downloaded the updated drivers from NVIDIA's Web site, and that didn't help any. |
| 04:46.35 | brlcad | ooh, saturos poster looks great |
| 04:46.36 | awilcox | In fact, it made it a bit worse -- now some GDI drawing even fails. |
| 04:46.42 | awilcox | JeffM: Yes, I am using 9.0c |
| 04:46.53 | JeffM | install XP |
| 04:47.05 | JeffM | server 2k3 is not a gaming OS |
| 04:47.06 | blast007 | awilcox: Windows Server isn't for games |
| 04:47.28 | awilcox | blast007: ...that's fine, I'll uninstall bzflag. doesn't explain why it can't even run MS Paint |
| 04:47.34 | blast007 | lol |
| 04:47.54 | awilcox | "Out of system resources"...that can't be normal, even if it is Windows Server |
| 04:47.57 | blast007 | I've never installed video drivers on a server |
| 04:47.59 | JeffM | turn down the hardware acceleration |
| 04:48.16 | blast007 | I just use what it comes with |
| 04:48.25 | blast007 | since there isn't any for the machines I have |
| 04:48.30 | awilcox | blast007: NVIDIA fully supports it...(you know you can use CAD on Server) |
| 04:48.33 | blast007 | they're desktop machines turned into servers |
| 04:48.45 | blast007 | awilcox: if the fully support it, get some support from them :P |
| 04:48.48 | JeffM | you probably got something horked |
| 04:48.48 | blast007 | they* |
| 04:49.08 | JeffM | you are also running on very specialised hardware |
| 04:49.09 | awilcox | well I thought maybe you guys might be able to help... |
| 04:49.17 | JeffM | also the cad people use workstation cards, NOT game cards |
| 04:49.23 | blast007 | and I don't recall seeing "Server 2003" as an option for their drivers |
| 04:49.25 | JeffM | where the drivers are talored for the specifc app |
| 04:49.30 | blast007 | only "Server 2003 x64" |
| 04:49.55 | awilcox | oh dirty bugger. |
| 04:50.25 | JeffM | awilcox: basicly you arn't doing what anyone else does |
| 04:50.30 | blast007 | yeah, the Quadro line lists Server 2003 drivers |
| 04:50.38 | Winny | vista *cough* |
| 04:50.52 | JeffM | I'm not sure why you don't just use XP64 |
| 04:50.54 | awilcox | the only other system that all components in this system fully supports is Windows 2000, but isn't that too old for games? |
| 04:51.11 | awilcox | JeffM: because unlike everyone else I use Active Directory |
| 04:51.13 | JeffM | or, how much ram do you have? |
| 04:51.17 | blast007 | no wait, nvm "No downloads were found for your configuration." |
| 04:51.20 | JeffM | awilcox: for what!? |
| 04:51.32 | awilcox | JeffM: single signon and roaming profiles, mainly |
| 04:51.41 | awilcox | I have *13* computers, roaming profiles rock |
| 04:51.44 | JeffM | then put that on your server |
| 04:51.51 | JeffM | your dev machine should not be your PDC |
| 04:51.59 | JeffM | that's just dumb |
| 04:52.09 | JeffM | set up a little DC, on a VM on another machine |
| 04:52.16 | brlcad | JeffM: ah, sure, you said .org earlier so I didn't make it |
| 04:52.19 | JeffM | and just get XP64 and tie it to the domain |
| 04:52.28 | JeffM | brlcad: .org, .bz whatever you think is best |
| 04:52.34 | Darklust | boobiez. |
| 04:52.39 | JeffM | we can do .bz now and just redirect .org when its' done |
| 04:52.44 | JeffM | Darklust: pardon? |
| 04:52.49 | awilcox | well what if I use this machine with xp64 and install the DC on a VM in it |
| 04:52.55 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o JeffM2501] by ChanServ |
| 04:53.00 | Darklust | JeffM: gigantic mammary glands of deat |
| 04:53.04 | Darklust | *death |
| 04:53.07 | a_meteorite | Huh |
| 04:53.10 | JeffM2501 | Darklust: bye bye |
| 04:53.12 | awilcox | also, can a VM directly connect to a NIC, thereby allowing me to use 2003's RRAS? |
| 04:53.14 | Darklust | fuck |
| 04:53.15 | *** kick/#bzflag [Darklust!n=Jeff@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/JeffM2501] by JeffM2501 (JeffM2501) |
| 04:53.18 | Winny | yay |
| 04:53.27 | Winny | the highlight of my day ;) |
| 04:53.31 | brlcad | yay, caught up |
| 04:53.40 | JeffM2501 | awilcox: thats stupid, ever time you reboot or boof your machine, you loose your domain controller |
| 04:53.52 | brlcad | JeffM2501: created, though for "final" probably would work better as .org |
| 04:54.06 | JeffM2501 | brlcad: I'll need a database and user for it too |
| 04:54.27 | JeffM2501 | db user, not shell user |
| 04:54.28 | blast007 | awilcox: you don't need much memory to run a PDC |
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| 04:54.51 | blast007 | we have 512MB on ours at work, and it's running as the central Norton server too :P |
| 04:55.15 | JeffM2501 | we've run DCs on 300mhz P3s with 128 megs of ram |
| 04:55.19 | JeffM2501 | they don't DO much |
| 04:55.19 | blast007 | and sharing files to 30 computers, and doing DNS, DHCP, and print sharing |
| 04:55.39 | blast007 | yeah |
| 04:55.54 | blast007 | before norton at least, I didn't go past 300MB of memory usage |
| 04:56.00 | JeffM2501 | all they have to do is be on BEFORE the desktops boot |
| 04:56.03 | blast007 | now I'm probably hitting swap :P |
| 04:56.11 | blast007 | ~lart norton |
| 04:56.11 | ibot | eats norton and falls over dead |
| 04:56.40 | brlcad | JeffM2501: okay, just pm me the dbname, user, pass |
| 04:57.22 | awilcox | so use the old router (Celeron/500 with 256MB RAM) as DC and use this new computer with xp64? |
| 04:57.37 | awilcox | would the be satisfactory and give me the "best of both worlds"? |
| 04:57.50 | brlcad | ahh, crap |
| 04:58.27 | JeffM2501 | brlcad: I almost took the picture that purple_cow had there and added an item "a smack in the mough from purple_cow " as an item too |
| 04:58.29 | Winny | hehe |
| 04:59.12 | awilcox | heh |
| 04:59.19 | brlcad | heh, there we go .. note to self, don't leave a random 'nn' in a config file |
| 04:59.26 | awilcox | hahahaha |
| 04:59.30 | blast007 | or an nn-64 |
| 04:59.57 | Winny | brlcad, that's ausom that the sight works now! |
| 04:59.59 | JeffM2501 | don't leave him anywhere |
| 05:00.00 | brlcad | JeffM2501: or a punch from 'the fist' |
| 05:01.45 | JeffM2501 | indeed |
| 05:01.54 | JeffM2501 | I had to guess on your shipping weight |
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| 05:02.31 | Darklust | >.> |
| 05:03.01 | *** mode/#bzflag [+b *!*@*.dyn.optonline.net] by JeffM2501 |
| 05:03.01 | *** kick/#bzflag [Darklust!n=Jeff@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/JeffM2501] by JeffM2501 (JeffM2501) |
| 05:03.01 | awilcox | Well, 200 lbs is prolly accurate. I mean you have to include packing peanuts, give him something to do. |
| 05:03.11 | Winny | haha |
| 05:03.13 | blast007 | and the food supply |
| 05:03.22 | blast007 | oh wait, packing peanuts, nvm |
| 05:03.37 | brlcad | heh, not quite that much JeffM2501 |
| 05:03.49 | JeffM2501 | yeah figured on the high side |
| 05:03.50 | brlcad | but within 15% |
| 05:03.54 | awilcox | brlcad: but it would be with packing peanuts, right? :P |
| 05:04.19 | brlcad | if it's the edible kind and I were drunk and hungry, possibly |
| 05:04.30 | awilcox | haha |
| 05:05.01 | awilcox | I meant we have to ship you IN packing peanuts, not if you ATE packing peanuts ;P |
| 05:05.08 | awilcox | gnight Winny the Pooh |
| 05:05.12 | Winny | grr |
| 05:05.31 | awilcox | c/~ Winny the Pooh, Winny the Pooh, stuffed with fluff c/~ |
| 05:06.25 | JeffM2501 | oh, brlcad saturos made you a poster ;) |
| 05:08.05 | awilcox | 23:46 <@brlcad> ooh, saturos poster looks great |
| 05:08.10 | awilcox | ^ he knows. |
| 05:08.16 | awilcox | He's known for 20 mins, in fact. |
| 05:08.25 | JeffM2501 | ahh ok |
| 05:08.33 | brlcad | yeah, it looks awesome |
| 05:08.36 | brlcad | ship it! |
| 05:08.37 | JeffM2501 | indeed |
| 05:08.52 | brlcad | on schedule and ahead of expectations |
| 05:08.57 | brlcad | a refreshing change |
| 05:09.15 | JeffM2501 | he's good |
| 05:10.00 | brlcad | from the log it looks like it's only raster, yes? |
| 05:10.06 | brlcad | or was that svg for the poster too? |
| 05:11.09 | awilcox | brlcad: (sneaks tiny question in before reformatting *again*) so what's your take on the whole XP vs 2003 thing? |
| 05:11.24 | Winny | I think http://saturos.de/s/wanted_hi.png was the highest rez version, and IIRC the grunge brushes he used are only PS |
| 05:11.47 | awilcox | Winny, you silly old bear, you should be sleeeeeping! :P |
| 05:12.04 | Winny | heh |
| 05:14.24 | brlcad | my take is something along the lines of "what whole XP vs 2003 thing?" .. there is no "thing" |
| 05:14.35 | brlcad | at least no thing worth caring about |
| 05:15.15 | awilcox | brlcad: O_o so you think I should stay with 2003 and lart nvidia a couple times? or just use xp and sacrifice the features I want? or what? |
| 05:19.05 | brlcad | which is better, clubbing baby seals or plucking the eyes off rabbits? or just kick dogs and sacrifice the joy of traveling? or what? |
| 05:19.26 | brlcad | you're not larting nvidia, at least I doubt they feel larted |
| 05:19.32 | brlcad | use what floats your boat |
| 05:19.34 | awilcox | brlcad: huh? |
| 05:19.41 | brlcad | exactly my feeling |
| 05:19.47 | awilcox | brlcad: none of your options seem very good to me |
| 05:19.49 | awilcox | oh... |
| 05:19.53 | brlcad | heh |
| 05:20.04 | awilcox | brlcad: then what is YOUR os-of-the-day? |
| 05:20.06 | JeffM2501 | awilcox: it all depends on what you want to do. complain a lot, or get on with your life and do real work. |
| 05:20.22 | awilcox | JeffM2501: how can I do "real work" if I can't even start gosh-darned ms paint?! |
| 05:20.32 | JeffM2501 | awilcox: so you want to complain |
| 05:20.35 | JeffM2501 | ok then have fun |
| 05:20.42 | JeffM2501 | if you want more stuff to work, go to XP |
| 05:20.46 | awilcox | ...no, I just don't know how to properly ask for help |
| 05:20.54 | JeffM2501 | if you like to complain, stick with your basackwards system |
| 05:21.00 | JeffM2501 | awilcox: you arn't going to get it |
| 05:21.02 | brlcad | awilcox: I don't have one, they come and go -- I use many daily .. they all have their tradeoffs |
| 05:21.15 | awilcox | JeffM2501: I *USE* some of the features of 2003...the kernel is different and improved |
| 05:21.29 | JeffM2501 | awilcox: then go get a quadro and do workstation |
| 05:21.42 | brlcad | try something different just for the sake of learning and pushing your limits |
| 05:21.44 | JeffM2501 | it's not meant for game cards, and those drivers arn't tested under that OS |
| 05:21.44 | awilcox | ...but I want to game too |
| 05:21.46 | brlcad | or stick with what's comfortable |
| 05:21.48 | blast007 | JeffM2501: I didn't see Server 2003 drivers for the quadro even :P |
| 05:21.49 | JeffM2501 | because the KERNEL IS DIFRENT |
| 05:21.59 | JeffM2501 | blast007: probalby only 64 |
| 05:22.04 | JeffM2501 | he's in a wierd place |
| 05:22.11 | awilcox | dangit I just freaking need x64 |
| 05:22.12 | blast007 | yeah, same as for his card |
| 05:22.21 | JeffM2501 | he can get to a normal place and get on with his life, or complain |
| 05:22.21 | blast007 | they have Server 2003 x64 for the 8600GTS |
| 05:22.25 | awilcox | and nobody at microsoft is willing to help me get that stupid disc that I am entitled to |
| 05:22.39 | JeffM2501 | awilcox: well duh, they didn't get any money from you |
| 05:22.55 | awilcox | JeffM2501: they did too! x64 was part of my msdn subscription |
| 05:23.03 | blast007 | sign up for MSDN again... they're pushing out Server 2008 in march :P |
| 05:23.07 | JeffM2501 | awilcox: who did you pay that to? |
| 05:23.13 | JeffM2501 | MS, or some dude on ebay |
| 05:23.21 | awilcox | JeffM2501: some dude on ebay that paid ms money |
| 05:23.36 | blast007 | does MSDN even *transfer* to someone else? |
| 05:23.36 | JeffM2501 | well that subscription ENDED |
| 05:23.51 | JeffM2501 | and you didn't do what you needed to |
| 05:23.51 | awilcox | blast007: he never activated it -- it was shrinkwrapped |
| 05:23.58 | JeffM2501 | that is the point of subscription scams |
| 05:24.11 | awilcox | JeffM2501: it was a valid charity, I looked it up |
| 05:24.23 | JeffM2501 | awilcox: charity, so MS probalby donated it |
| 05:24.27 | JeffM2501 | and never got paid |
| 05:24.33 | awilcox | the description said it was from CompUSA |
| 05:24.38 | JeffM2501 | sure it did |
| 05:24.42 | JeffM2501 | but still, it ENDED |
| 05:24.44 | awilcox | I don't know if it was or not |
| 05:24.45 | JeffM2501 | no more |
| 05:24.45 | JeffM2501 | done |
| 05:24.48 | JeffM2501 | zipo |
| 05:24.54 | JeffM2501 | contract OVER |
| 05:25.09 | awilcox | ...he already told me this. this isn't helping the situation I'm in |
| 05:25.24 | JeffM2501 | exactly why I say you can complain, or move on |
| 05:25.24 | blast007 | it's rather simple |
| 05:25.40 | JeffM2501 | you like to complain, face it |
| 05:25.42 | awilcox | I don't have x64, that won't work. I can't use linux due to lack of compatibility with software and games I want to run. |
| 05:25.42 | blast007 | if you want to get x64, either buy the product, or sign up for MSDN |
| 05:26.01 | blast007 | you can't use server 2003 due to the lack of games you want to run either :P |
| 05:26.14 | awilcox | JeffM2501: ...I'm trying to be better but I obviously I'm coming off really wrong |
| 05:26.46 | JeffM2501 | awilcox: talking about it, and asking what others will do is just beating aroudn the bush when you KNOW what you have to do |
| 05:26.49 | JeffM2501 | so DO it |
| 05:27.43 | awilcox | JeffM2501: what I think I SHOULD do is use the previous router for DC and leave 03 on that one, and put XP on this new computer, but that doesn't answer the question of how the hell do I run ISA? |
| 05:28.00 | JeffM2501 | isa? |
| 05:28.03 | JeffM2501 | like cards? |
| 05:28.31 | awilcox | no like Internet Security and Accleration Server like IP gateway / firewall with VPN and H.323 gatekeeping, which I've needed DESPARATELY |
| 05:29.09 | blast007 | my router can do a VPN :P |
| 05:29.09 | JeffM2501 | that sounds like stuff you'd run on your server, not your workstation |
| 05:29.19 | JeffM2501 | it sounds like you are trying to do too much on one machine |
| 05:29.20 | awilcox | JeffM2501: but the server wouldn't be NEAR the cable modem |
| 05:29.29 | awilcox | unless I run two computers 24x7 |
| 05:29.37 | awilcox | which I would absolutely love to do |
| 05:29.40 | JeffM2501 | so run a wire |
| 05:29.46 | awilcox | but I wouldn't absolutely love to pay $$$ to the power co. |
| 05:29.51 | JeffM2501 | all the problems are solvable |
| 05:29.59 | JeffM2501 | you just have to see if the solution is worht it to you |
| 05:30.02 | awilcox | yeah, leaving two computers on 24x7 is my best option atm |
| 05:30.05 | awilcox | bbiab |
| 05:30.15 | JeffM2501 | I mean this what IT is abbout |
| 05:33.36 | JeffM2501 | http://www.opencombat.net/files/icoTank%20copy.png |
| 05:36.38 | brlcad | for "a" shirt, but a bit out of place for a bz shirt (imho, it should be based on the traditional bz tank model and/or icon in 2d (but not 3d)) |
| 05:36.59 | JeffM2501 | probably |
| 05:37.13 | JeffM2501 | just ended up an interesting shape |
| 05:40.40 | JeffM2501 | SportChick: would buy a mankiss |
| 05:40.51 | JeffM2501 | woudn't you? |
| 05:42.52 | purple_cow | JeffM2501: why am I smacking people in the mouth? |
| 05:42.54 | purple_cow | also, who? |
| 05:43.05 | JeffM2501 | purple_cow: anyone who gave you 25$ |
| 05:43.21 | JeffM2501 | purple_cow: it goes along with http://www.opencombat.net/zenstore/index.php?main_page=product_music_info&cPath=0&products_id=4 |
| 05:43.44 | blast007 | "product_music_info" ? |
| 05:43.53 | JeffM2501 | yeah, default crap |
| 05:43.59 | blast007 | heh |
| 05:44.16 | JeffM2501 | I just renamed some of the default stuff the first time |
| 05:44.23 | JeffM2501 | for the real one I'll make new categories |
| 05:44.48 | purple_cow | JeffM2501: haha |
| 05:44.49 | purple_cow | nice |
| 05:45.05 | JeffM2501 | purple_cow: your picture was on the same SF site, so you know... :) |
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| 06:01.08 | think_tank | under 2.0.2's config file, which setting turns on reportedHits, angular velocity, etc on HUD? |
| 06:01.24 | JeffM2501 | 2.0.2 |
| 06:01.28 | JeffM2501 | that's too old to do that |
| 06:01.36 | think_tank | was afraid so |
| 06:01.37 | JeffM2501 | all that was added in .10 |
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| 06:02.00 | think_tank | i just found showCoordinates and was thrilled |
| 06:02.16 | JeffM2501 | it's a menu item in .10 |
| 06:06.02 | think_tank | one last question: what do showCollisionGrid and showCullingGrid control? |
| 06:06.36 | JeffM2501 | they are used when you build with debug rendering |
| 06:06.43 | JeffM2501 | to see how the octree works |
| 06:07.02 | think_tank | so not necessary in any context for regular play then? |
| 06:07.50 | JeffM2501 | oh no |
| 06:07.58 | think_tank | k, thx! |
| 06:08.01 | JeffM2501 | anything you need to play we will do a menu for |
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| 06:10.09 | SportChick | JeffM2501: huhn? |
| 06:10.32 | JeffM2501 | SportChick: http://www.opencombat.net/zenstore/index.php?main_page=product_music_info&cPath=0&products_id=4 |
| 06:11.42 | SportChick | JeffM2501: heh, you should at least fix the typos if you expect any takers :p |
| 06:11.57 | JeffM2501 | well I shall when I move it to the real store |
| 06:12.04 | SportChick | JeffM2501: and what does "abet" mean? |
| 06:12.07 | SportChick | albeit? |
| 06:12.10 | JeffM2501 | yeaht hat |
| 06:12.13 | JeffM2501 | yeah that |
| 06:13.12 | SportChick | heh |
| 06:13.26 | JeffM2501 | now for the long joyfull config of the real store :/ |
| 06:31.35 | JeffM2501 | SportChick: is this better? http://store.bzflag.bz/ ;) |
| 06:35.11 | pacman87 | speaking of spelling/typos, the gsoc poster has 'vor' instead of 'for' |
| 06:35.22 | JeffM2501 | well it was made by a german ;) |
| 06:47.52 | brlcad | nifty, linuxgames nod |
| 06:48.34 | DTRemenak | cool |
| 06:49.58 | Constitution | oh sweet |
| 06:50.08 | Constitution | nice-looking store :) |
| 06:59.22 | JeffM2501 | now that I know how categories work, it should be a lot better looking |
| 07:13.17 | CIA-26 | BZFlag: 03blast007 * r16653 10/trunk/web/submitimages/ (config.php.example templates/header.tpl templates/upload.tpl): |
| 07:13.17 | CIA-26 | BZFlag: Fix a couple HTML validation errors. |
| 07:13.17 | CIA-26 | BZFlag: Slight tweak to the config file for languages. |
| 07:20.50 | JeffM2501 | there, that's more how I would think the products would be setup :) |
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| 07:29.24 | L4m3r | you should sell a bzflag cheat edition |
| 07:29.39 | L4m3r | that just hoses any system you put it in |
| 07:29.42 | L4m3r | ;) |
| 07:29.44 | JeffM2501 | and ship a live angry bobcat in the box? |
| 07:29.51 | L4m3r | that works too |
| 07:30.04 | JeffM2501 | how does it look with the categories now? |
| 07:30.25 | L4m3r | the layout is fine |
| 07:30.30 | JeffM2501 | and the new and improved shirt image :) |
| 07:31.11 | L4m3r | heh |
| 07:38.04 | JeffM2501 | well that's good enough for one night :) |
| 07:53.50 | awilcox | Wouldn't I get even more "love" from the devs and community if I just _donated_ without asking for a disc? |
| 07:56.58 | L4m3r | heh... yeah, are you guys getting low on beer money? I could send some your way (given a few days, damn paypal) |
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| 11:40.16 | tj13810 | good morning (6:30 here) if you are incharge of global groups, please check the bullitens, i have requested groups |
| 11:47.25 | CIA-26 | BZFlag: 03t-s * r16654 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzrobots/MessageUtilities.cxx: Type long long not allowed in ISO C++ so use intmax_t. Still produces a warning for sscanf but at least no error. |
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| 14:46.53 | ts | Seems like svn trunk crashes at shutdown: http://pastebin.bzflag.bz/m20948564 |
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| 15:59.16 | whodaman | moin Saturos |
| 15:59.27 | Saturos | jo whodaman |
| 15:59.31 | Saturos | ausgeschlafen? |
| 15:59.41 | whodaman | um 6 aufgestanden :/ |
| 15:59.58 | whodaman | naja, 6:45 :P |
| 15:59.59 | Saturos | lol.. du warst doch um halb sechs noch hier? |
| 16:00.16 | whodaman | Saturos, mein IRC client war hier, ich war im Bett :) |
| 16:00.34 | whodaman | ich bin nur zuf?llig um 3am aufgestanden und dir mit dem flyer geholfen :D |
| 16:00.39 | Saturos | Mit der Formulierung hat mir auch dein IRC geholfen? |
| 16:00.54 | Saturos | Das war um halb fünf, nicht um drei. O_o |
| 16:01.00 | whodaman | :o |
| 16:01.16 | whodaman | offensichtlich wars zu frueh |
| 16:02.30 | whodaman | Saturos, dann war ich doch um halb 6 "schon" hier |
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| 16:39.14 | CIA-26 | BZFlag: 03blast007 * r16655 10/trunk/web/submitimages/tmp/directory.php: Throw in some SQLite magic to read the information about the files contained in the image directories. |
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| 17:57.05 | Tedius | erm, what? http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?p=121514#121514 |
| 17:57.52 | Constitution | lol |
| 18:08.51 | blast007 | o.O |
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| 19:40.13 | blast007 | Erroneous: no jeff yet? :/ |
| 19:40.45 | Erroneous | blast007: he has today and tomorrow off |
| 19:40.50 | blast007 | ah |
| 19:41.36 | blast007 | tracked down where the mesh collisions are broken in trunk |
| 19:42.37 | spldart | Sweet |
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| 19:45.20 | blast007 | my guess is that the obstacle I'm hitting in mesh'ed maps isn't a "mesh", but a "meshface" |
| 19:45.26 | blast007 | and the code only handles "mesh" |
| 19:45.34 | blast007 | for the GUID stuff |
| 19:47.06 | blast007 | so in the [Client|Server]IntangibilityManager.cxx files, it's failing to find the obstacle, and is then returning _INVALID_TANGIBILITY |
| 19:47.15 | blast007 | and that has a value of 255, which makes stuff drivethrough |
| 19:47.31 | blast007 | so technically if it can't find stuff, it would be best to return 0, since that would make it solid |
| 19:52.16 | blast007 | so once that's fixed, Louman's Metropolis will be half functional |
| 19:52.27 | blast007 | then the next thing to check is why my tank randomly blows up |
| 19:52.49 | Winny | hehe |
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| 19:53.26 | blast007 | I'm hoping that fixing the collision stuff will also fix tank/flag spawns |
| 19:54.01 | Erroneous | blast007: you're welcome to fix it :) |
| 19:54.22 | blast007 | yeah, I'll work on it, once I'm not at work |
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| 19:54.51 | blast007 | probably just a matter of throwing in another case to handle |
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| 20:06.11 | Baudelaire | hello |
| 20:06.30 | Winny | hi |
| 20:06.40 | jftsang | hello |
| 20:06.52 | spldart | hola |
| 20:08.27 | Winny | bye |
| 20:08.29 | jftsang | o....k... |
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| 21:10.06 | KTL | lemony snickets... |
| 21:18.42 | jftsang | hm? |
| 21:19.04 | jftsang | for a start, I'll think you'll find that his name was Lemony Snicket |
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| 21:35.22 | tj13810 | does anyone have a "bad words" file? |
| 21:36.50 | jftsang | write one yourself... |
| 21:37.05 | jftsang | but some admins might publish them on the forums, take a look |
| 21:37.10 | tj13810 | ...go away...to msn where you are talking to me |
| 21:42.06 | kirun_ | If I had a bad word list, it would kick people for saying "F***" and tell them to swear properly or not at all |
| 21:42.24 | jftsang | o_0 |
| 21:42.57 | jftsang | still cannot connect to local server (this time with -ddd and -public) |
| 21:43.10 | jftsang | it seems to be held on at Queuing ADD message to list server |
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| 22:28.45 | BZFlagr34 | hey spidart |
| 22:28.57 | BZFlagr34 | h |
| 22:29.01 | BZFlagr34 | h\ |
| 22:29.14 | BZFlagr34 | hello talk to me |
| 22:29.18 | BZFlagr34 | h |
| 22:29.18 | whodaman | hi... |
| 22:29.23 | BZFlagr34 | hi |
| 22:29.26 | whodaman | this is not AIM |
| 22:29.34 | BZFlagr34 | ni know sry |
| 22:29.58 | BZFlagr34 | talk to me |
| 22:30.07 | Winny | who is this? |
| 22:30.14 | BZFlagr34 | me peterv |
| 22:30.30 | BZFlagr34 | ive alerady registered |
| 22:30.40 | BZFlagr34 | nto play the game |
| 22:30.55 | BZFlagr34 | winny |
| 22:30.59 | Winny | ~bzgs |
| 22:31.00 | ibot | Please read through http://my.bzflag.org/w/Getting_Started for a quick overview of how to play BZFlag. |
| 22:31.05 | awilcox | BZFlagr34: This is a professional developer's channel, please use full sentences so that we can better assist you. |
| 22:31.12 | BZFlagr34 | nok |
| 22:31.15 | BZFlagr34 | ok |
| 22:31.21 | Winny | professional, hah |
| 22:32.11 | BZFlagr34 | i was wondering if i had a chance to talk to the boom members |
| 22:32.28 | Winny | Send them a message on the GU site then |
| 22:32.37 | BZFlagr34 | a vicious muffins here |
| 22:32.46 | whodaman | ViciousM, ping |
| 22:32.55 | BZFlagr34 | huh |
| 22:33.03 | awilcox | whodaman: man-in-the-middle attack! :P |
| 22:33.06 | Winny | you need to say his full name to ping him |
| 22:33.11 | whodaman | the gu league site |
| 22:33.11 | Winny | in this case, ViciousM |
| 22:33.21 | whodaman | full IRC name, that is |
| 22:33.28 | BZFlagr34 | ViciousM |
| 22:33.54 | BZFlagr34 | ok now what do i do |
| 22:34.02 | whodaman | you wait |
| 22:34.06 | Winny | What are you TRYING to do? |
| 22:34.19 | BZFlagr34 | i want to talk to him |
| 22:34.19 | Winny | talk to ViciousM? Play BZFlag? |
| 22:34.33 | awilcox | BZFlagr34: If you want to talk to him, you will need to wait for him to reply to your "ping". |
| 22:34.48 | BZFlagr34 | hes barely on and he ignores me |
| 22:35.02 | Winny | then send him a PM on the forums |
| 22:35.10 | BZFlagr34 | no |
| 22:35.31 | whodaman | ... |
| 22:35.34 | Winny | why not? It's the best way to make sure someone recives your comment |
| 22:35.53 | BZFlagr34 | i heard spidart lives in sugar land |
| 22:36.00 | whodaman | Right |
| 22:36.17 | whodaman | If you have nothing constructive to state, stop wasting our time |
| 22:36.31 | BZFlagr34 | ok |
| 22:36.38 | BZFlagr34 | im just bored |
| 22:36.44 | Winny | then play |
| 22:36.51 | awilcox | BZFlagr34: go play bzflag if you are bored, :P |
| 22:37.02 | BZFlagr34 | none of my friends are online line |
| 22:37.09 | Winny | so? You can still play |
| 22:37.15 | BZFlagr34 | nwhy |
| 22:37.18 | BZFlagr34 | why |
| 22:37.26 | BZFlagr34 | brb |
| 22:37.26 | Winny | ..because You're bored? |
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| 22:37.40 | Winny | oh thank god we know he's leaving |
| 22:37.49 | Winny | I don't know what I would have done if he hadn't of said brb |
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| 22:39.33 | BZFlagr40 | hey |
| 22:39.55 | BZFlagr40 | howdy |
| 22:40.20 | whodaman | hi |
| 22:40.22 | BZFlagr40 | hllo speak |
| 22:40.43 | BZFlagr40 | is catay online |
| 22:40.55 | whodaman | catay, are you here?:) |
| 22:41.01 | Winny | He's here, but probably AFK. |
| 22:41.22 | BZFlagr40 | yea steven catays online |
| 22:41.50 | BZFlagr40 | hey |
| 22:42.07 | BZFlagr40 | who is AFK |
| 22:42.13 | BZFlagr40 | the team |
| 22:42.22 | Winny | uh? |
| 22:42.31 | CBG | SHUT THE FUCK UP FOR FUCKS SAKE |
| 22:42.47 | whodaman | ah, the subtle catay |
| 22:42.50 | whodaman | *CBG, even |
| 22:42.50 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o Erroneous] by ChanServ |
| 22:42.57 | *** kick/#bzflag [CBG!n=dtremena@about/essy/CrazyCoder/DTRemenak] by Erroneous (you know better) |
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| 22:44.00 | BZFlagr40 | who is cbj |
| 22:44.17 | BZFlagr40 | and why is he cussing |
| 22:44.48 | BZFlagr40 | catay are you here |
| 22:45.06 | Erroneous | because he's frustrated at you. you've sent more messages here than everyone else combined over the last day or so, without actually saying anything |
| 22:45.07 | Winny | IRC is not like AIM or MSN. Most people here are AFK. |
| 22:45.35 | BZFlagr40 | what is AFK |
| 22:45.40 | Winny | Most people leave their clients open even when they're at work |
| 22:45.40 | whodaman | away from keyboard |
| 22:45.49 | whodaman | in other words, they're out and about |
| 22:45.55 | BZFlagr40 | ohh |
| 22:46.07 | whodaman | and aren't going to instantly jump to your questions |
| 22:46.32 | BZFlagr40 | i dont know |
| 22:46.38 | BZFlagr40 | lol |
| 22:46.43 | whodaman | now you do |
| 22:46.51 | CBG | Erroneous: I know better, but I also know that nobody else would have said it. |
| 22:46.54 | BZFlagr40 | brb |
| 22:47.07 | Erroneous | typically you will need to ask a question, then wait a few minutes for an answer, if it's answerable by anyone. if you're looking for a specific person you may need to wait longer (catay has not spoken here for 4 hours or so) |
| 22:47.19 | Erroneous | and you DEFINITELY do not need to say "brb" or anything like that |
| 22:47.34 | whodaman | no need to announce anything here |
| 22:48.12 | Erroneous | CBG: I would like to think that an equivalent message could have been conveyed without resorting to vulgarity |
| 22:48.53 | BZFlagr40 | im back |
| 22:49.16 | BZFlagr40 | hey |
| 22:49.24 | whodaman | we JUST told you not to announce things like "brb" or "back" or "going away" or whatever |
| 22:49.43 | Erroneous | we don't care when you're here and when you're not. as we just got finished telling you, nobody ever assumes anybody is here. |
| 22:49.57 | CBG | Erroneous: and I disagree :) |
| 22:50.25 | Erroneous | you are welcome to disagree, but please do not resort to just using foul language anyway (at least here) |
| 22:51.06 | CBG | I believe it was worth it. |
| 22:51.17 | Erroneous | that's nice. |
| 22:51.58 | BZFlagr40 | nok sorry |
| 22:51.59 | CBG | I thought so too. |
| 22:52.21 | CBG | Oh boy. Please stop with the "n" thing too. This isn't BZFlag. |
| 22:52.22 | BZFlagr40 | sorry forthe spelling |
| 22:52.45 | BZFlagr40 | sry i always get mixed up |
| 22:53.25 | CBG | Simply put, IRC works like this: IF you have a question to ask: ask it and say nothing else until someone responds in some manner. If someone else happens to ask a question that you can help with, feel free to help them if you want to. |
| 22:54.11 | CBG | Social/Chat dedicated channels and different of course, but the above applies to any support channels and to non-devs in dev channels. |
| 22:59.06 | BZFlagr40 | viciousM still isnt repling |
| 22:59.42 | CBG | Maybe. He. Is. Away. ?! |
| 22:59.53 | BZFlagr40 | yea probaly |
| 23:00.24 | BZFlagr40 | gonna play bzf |
| 23:00.32 | whodaman | hf |
| 23:00.43 | CBG | Great! Bye!! |
| 23:07.12 | *** join/#bzflag think_tank (n=think_ta@c-71-194-147-60.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 23:12.58 | think_tank | any ideas on what "Communication error joining game [Wrong Code 6774] |
| 23:13.05 | think_tank | means with bzadmin? |
| 23:14.09 | BZFlagr40 | hi |
| 23:16.17 | Erroneous | think_tank: bzadmin recieved an unexpected MsgGameTime |
| 23:17.09 | *** join/#bzflag Think_Differentl (n=shedelj@unaffiliated/thinkdifferentl/x-838543) |
| 23:19.46 | think_tank | erroneous: i'm getting the message on each server i try to connect to. any fix? |
| 23:20.25 | *** join/#bzflag BZFlagr81 (n=62c29ff6@gateway/web/cgi-irc/bzflagr.net/x-50c8b95f3906c841) |
| 23:25.24 | spldart | fyi.. I mentioned I had a problem with someone on bzflag forums pm'ing me and not acting totally mature I wonder if this is the same dude |
| 23:26.46 | *** join/#bzflag BenUrban (n=benurban@unaffiliated/benurban) |
| 23:27.13 | spldart | Goes by Peter 4b |
| 23:27.23 | spldart | Please ban him |
| 23:28.07 | spldart | A LONG and HARD ban up the.... |
| 23:28.29 | think_tank | barrel? |
| 23:29.03 | spldart | Yeah... that was what I was thinking |
| 23:29.08 | spldart | You read my mind |
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| 23:33.11 | *** join/#bzflag L4m3r (n=l4m3r@about/essy/warning/L4m3r) |
| 23:33.11 | *** mode/#bzflag [+v L4m3r] by ChanServ |
| 23:34.03 | Erroneous | think_tank: shouldn't happen at all. are you using a current bzadmin and server, that both use the same protocol? |
| 23:35.30 | think_tank | Erroneous: no i'm using "antique roadshow worthy" 2.0.2. Server is 2.0.10 |
| 23:35.53 | Erroneous | iirc there was a bug in certain old 2.0 versions that could cause that (early 2005 maybe) |
| 23:36.00 | Erroneous | ahh |
| 23:36.26 | Winny | 2.0.2? ick |
| 23:36.30 | Erroneous | any particular reason to hang on to 2.0.2? |
| 23:36.46 | think_tank | old hardware, OS, poor graphics capabilities |
| 23:36.51 | Winny | Erroneous, it's a palindrome spelled backwards? :p |
| 23:37.19 | Erroneous | graphics stuff only got faster after that (sticking with 2.0.x of course) |
| 23:37.25 | think_tank | i might just extract a 2.0.10 versioin of bzadmin and use that then. |
| 23:37.34 | Erroneous | use your old low-res data files and it should be faster if anything |
| 23:38.40 | Erroneous | lots of font slowdowns and so on got fixed up for 2.0.4 and .6 |
| 23:39.14 | CBG | graphics issues.... we are talking about bzadmin, no? |
| 23:39.21 | CBG | ....? |
| 23:39.33 | Erroneous | that's why he said he might extract a 2.0.10 bzadmin, CBG |
| 23:40.12 | CBG | Maybe I misunderstood but it looked to me like he said he was using 2.0.2 bzadmin because it was an old pc... |
| 23:40.30 | CBG | Shouldn't matter at all for bzadmin, I would think. |
| 23:40.38 | Erroneous | CBG: in most os' bzflag is distributed as a complete package |
| 23:41.41 | CBG | True... but besides, I expect that all of the 2.0 branch is pretty similar on the requirements front. |
| 23:42.30 | *** join/#bzflag think__tank (n=think_ta@c-71-194-147-60.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 23:42.35 | Erroneous | there were lots of changes early on |
| 23:43.26 | Erroneous | including that we stopped shipping low-res data packs |
| 23:43.52 | think__tank | sry, inet cut out after my last |
| 23:44.22 | *** join/#bzflag AHA (n=aha@unaffiliated/aha) |
| 23:44.37 | *** join/#bzflag TD-Linux (n=wheeeeee@about/essy/indecisive/TD-Linux) |
| 23:44.43 | Erroneous | think__tank: use your old low-res data files and it should be faster if anything. lots of font slowdowns and so on got fixed up for 2.0.4 and .6. |
| 23:46.00 | think__tank | yeah, i was teetering between just waiting for 3.0 or trying to get a higher 2.x to work |
| 23:46.19 | Erroneous | oh, I can guarantee 3.0 will be slower on old hardware ;) |
| 23:46.32 | Erroneous | more modern 2.x's should not be though |
| 23:46.42 | think__tank | Erroneous: i have no doubt, but i planned on getting new hardware for it :D |
| 23:46.46 | Erroneous | ahh |
| 23:50.09 | think__tank | heh. i WAS using .00, upgraded .02 when it came out, only about 2.5-3 years ago |
| 23:50.33 | Erroneous | 3 years+ iirc |
| 23:50.39 | think__tank | my build is like 20050523 iirc |
| 23:50.43 | Erroneous | ah |
| 23:50.49 | Erroneous | thought it was a january release |
| 23:51.03 | *** join/#bzflag tj13810 (n=alihg@c-71-206-202-99.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) |
| 23:51.05 | Erroneous | but it WAS a long time ago, so maybe I just forgot :) |
| 23:51.25 | tj13810 | how long does it usually take for global groups to be added? |
| 23:51.50 | Erroneous | ah, .0 was january, .2 was march |
| 23:51.53 | Erroneous | both 2005 |
| 23:52.08 | Erroneous | so comin' up on 3 years here, Think__tank :) |
| 23:52.27 | Erroneous | tj13810: usually a day or less. have some you want expedited? |
| 23:52.29 | think_tank | i feel old |
| 23:52.46 | tj13810 | yes, i sent a request on the forum as told yesterday |
| 23:53.03 | tj13810 | TJ.COP TJ.ADMIN TJ.JRADMIN TJ.GOD |
| 23:53.31 | think_tank | tj13810, aka tj13820, give them a little time to get to it |
| 23:54.06 | tj13810 | ok, think_tank, i just have no idea how to use them to ad people and stuff |
| 23:54.33 | tj13810 | i guess they are linked to my account |
| 23:55.25 | AHA | Oh look, a thread on the forums titled "Setting Up Admin Permissions With Global Groups" -> http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=6516 |
| 23:56.00 | brlcad | http://www.flickr.com/photos/jace/2298144466/ |
| 23:56.14 | Erroneous | tj13810: all created |
| 23:56.25 | tj13810 | woah thank you very much :-) |
| 23:56.32 | AHA | brlcad: thats you? :p |
| 23:56.39 | tj13810 | i looked at that |
| 23:56.46 | tj13810 | just a bit much to look at all at once |
| 23:57.15 | AHA | go through it one step at a time |
| 23:57.19 | Erroneous | brlcad: awesome, KDE folks getting into it, huh? |
| 23:57.44 | brlcad | looks like it, or at least a guy wearing a kde shirt :) |
| 23:57.50 | brlcad | just ran across the picture |
| 23:58.15 | brlcad | this be interesting too: http://www.flickr.com/photos/70832255@N00/2195164018/ |
| 23:58.46 | L4m3r | hehe |
| 23:58.46 | Erroneous | brlcad: both subjects in that pic are wearing KDE shirts, so I just kind of leapt to a conclusion :) |
| 23:58.49 | AHA | hmm, i cant read the name on the right screen |
| 23:58.50 | L4m3r | I'm glad someone else did that and took a better picture |
| 23:58.52 | AHA | its too small :( |
| 23:59.02 | L4m3r | brlcad: nope |
| 23:59.11 | L4m3r | I did it... there's a thread on bzbb |
| 23:59.18 | L4m3r | I forget who made that image though |
| 23:59.20 | Erroneous | it can be configured that way, with a bit of work |
| 23:59.26 | L4m3r | the photo I took was really terrible :P |
| 23:59.33 | brlcad | ah, huh |
| 23:59.41 | brlcad | the radar doesn't match the 3d though.. |
| 23:59.41 | L4m3r | tho now that I have a decent camera and tripod, I could probably do better |
| 23:59.57 | AHA | brlcad, it does |
