| 00:01.50 | JeffM | awww yeah tanks with no barrels :) |
| 00:02.19 | JeffM | but I was able to conenct with 2 clients and see and play |
| 00:02.32 | blast007 | cool |
| 00:02.39 | blast007 | that's a start ;) |
| 00:02.42 | JeffM | indeed |
| 00:02.48 | JeffM | I didn't try chating tho |
| 00:02.55 | JeffM | but I think that may work better now |
| 00:02.56 | Winny | How does the OBJ importing work? tread.obj, barrel.obj, etc? |
| 00:03.00 | JeffM | yep |
| 00:03.57 | JeffM | body, turret, barrel, lcasing, rcasing |
| 00:04.00 | JeffM | 5 parts |
| 00:04.47 | Winny | :) |
| 00:05.13 | JeffM | but they can't have that wacky negitive index stuff |
| 00:08.23 | JeffM | and they have to use one texture |
| 00:08.26 | JeffM | tank.png |
| 00:08.29 | JeffM | for now |
| 00:12.24 | CIA-26 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r16531 10/trunk/bzflag/src/geometry/TankGeometryMgr.cxx: make sure the vert index is less then the number of verts, not that the number of verts is less then the index. |
| 00:13.10 | JeffM | oh and you can't pull the "it has no normals crap |
| 00:14.16 | Winny | ;) |
| 00:14.27 | JeffM | has to have normals and UVs |
| 00:14.34 | JeffM | won't pick up any materials or colors |
| 00:14.35 | JeffM | etc.. |
| 00:14.38 | JeffM | just geometry |
| 00:14.43 | Winny | wait.. so we can UV tank models now?! |
| 00:14.58 | JeffM | you can provide obj parts for the high res tank |
| 00:15.05 | JeffM | and they may load |
| 00:15.15 | JeffM | there may still be an issue with the UV loading |
| 00:15.22 | JeffM | I got it to draw the barrel |
| 00:15.26 | JeffM | with a texture |
| 00:15.33 | JeffM | but I don't think on all faces |
| 00:27.53 | BerntH | JeffM: chatting doesn't crash the client anymore - thanks |
| 00:27.57 | JeffM | cool |
| 00:28.03 | JeffM | it shoudl work a lot better |
| 00:28.16 | BerntH | it was pretty borked before :) |
| 00:29.46 | JeffM | not really |
| 00:29.51 | JeffM | all that was wrong was a ! |
| 00:31.06 | CIA-26 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r16532 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzflag/HUDRenderer.cxx: put the corner points in the correct place, dey was off by one. |
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| 00:46.22 | CIA-26 | BZFlag: 03bthansen * r16533 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/logDetail/logDetail.cpp: |
| 00:46.22 | CIA-26 | BZFlag: LogDetail-Add SERVER-MAPNAME with the public server description |
| 00:46.22 | CIA-26 | BZFlag: Log the public server description to easily pick up the official map |
| 00:46.22 | CIA-26 | BZFlag: name for the server. |
| 00:49.19 | Dessy | hi |
| 00:50.09 | Dessy | i downloaded the v2_0branch and tried to compile it |
| 00:50.24 | Dessy | there are 2 missing files |
| 00:50.52 | Dessy | LoginMenu.cxx |
| 00:51.08 | Dessy | ClientAuthentication.cxx |
| 00:51.12 | blast007 | what are you compiling with? |
| 00:51.20 | JeffM | indeed |
| 00:51.22 | JeffM | VC8? |
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| 00:53.04 | Dessy | yes |
| 00:53.16 | JeffM | from the tarball or subversion? |
| 00:53.22 | Dessy | Microsoft Visual C++ 2005 Express Edition |
| 00:53.25 | Dessy | svn |
| 00:53.37 | JeffM | projects just not updated then |
| 00:53.40 | JeffM | those files were removed |
| 00:54.06 | Winny | ugh.. Zaa is going alone with giant sigs again |
| 00:54.17 | Dessy | i copied them from an older version ;) |
| 00:54.30 | JeffM | Dessy that's not the way to fix it |
| 00:54.35 | blast007 | Winny: hang on.. |
| 00:54.45 | Dessy | but it worked :P |
| 00:56.01 | CIA-26 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r16534 10/branches/v2_0branch/bzflag/win32/VC8/bzflag.vcproj: kerbos was removed, so don't need the files anymore |
| 00:56.07 | JeffM | dosn't mean it's right |
| 01:07.21 | JeffM | well UV order is jacked but it loads models :) |
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| 01:25.23 | Winny | http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=12231 |
| 01:26.04 | AHA | i love how zaa responded to it |
| 01:26.10 | Winny | yeah |
| 01:26.16 | Winny | not the sharpest stick in the pile |
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| 01:33.25 | learner | there, that's better |
| 01:33.35 | learner | cgi:irc is upgraded/working again |
| 01:33.40 | Winny | learner :) |
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| 01:34.05 | a_meteorite | your smile scared him |
| 01:34.21 | Winny | :} |
| 01:34.50 | a_meteorite | noez my eyes |
| 01:37.35 | Dessy | cya all, gn8! |
| 01:42.34 | CIA-26 | BZFlag: 03bthansen * r16535 10/trunk/bzflag/plugins/logDetail/logDetail.cpp: Whitespace |
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| 03:43.17 | spldart | I've tried everything I can think of and can't get ./configure to see my curses. Debian Etch libncurses5 and libncurses5-dev |
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| 03:47.29 | spldart | problem is unique to this machine... I had no problem with the last 3 machines with different mobo's/processors and their builds :( |
| 03:47.41 | brlcad | why does it fail? |
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| 03:48.35 | spldart | Not goin to the build part... just ./configure wont stop saying 'no curses' |
| 03:48.36 | brlcad | (the results of the curses test are in config.log, have to read it to know why) |
| 03:48.41 | spldart | OK |
| 03:48.51 | spldart | I'll nano that in a sec |
| 03:52.01 | spldart | Nothing obvious.. but I don't know if I'm interupting everything correctly |
| 03:53.24 | spldart | right after checking for working ncurses there is an extensive line that ends with something like g++: command not found |
| 03:54.25 | spldart | lemme see if I can upload it to my works webserver |
| 03:55.58 | blast007 | make sure you installed g++ too then ;) |
| 03:56.07 | blast007 | you need that to build C++ code |
| 03:56.39 | blast007 | did you use apt-get install build-essential ? |
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| 03:57.47 | blast007 | it's a handy thing to use, since it installs several packages: http://packages.debian.org/stable/devel/build-essential |
| 03:58.16 | spldart | hrm |
| 03:58.50 | blast007 | it's really for building debian packages, but it's just what I use to cheat and get the stuff to build ;) |
| 03:59.23 | spldart | I had just reinstalled this rig after bunking some attempts @ running 2.6.24.1 kernel on etch... I got a kernel that ran well so I started from scratch with this custom kernel... trying .configure with build-essential now |
| 04:00.36 | spldart | You may have already caught my stupid mistake but here my log is http://70.240.182.235:8080/config.log |
| 04:02.04 | blast007 | missing g++ is one of the more common build issue |
| 04:02.06 | blast007 | issues* |
| 04:02.53 | spldart | As you can see I even backed down to the current stable kernel in my systematic elimination of possible causes |
| 04:03.04 | spldart | waiting on ./config now |
| 04:03.41 | spldart | This is my new hideaway machine for work... old 200 pentium mmx pavilion very small |
| 04:04.09 | spldart | You fixed it. I forgot g++ |
| 04:04.31 | spldart | My stupid mistake... all this kernel building has my brain short_circuit-ing |
| 04:05.34 | blast007 | ;) |
| 04:22.56 | spldart | ooOOoo... just found some more unecessary stuff to prune from 2.6.24.... hehe building ver. 5 |
| 04:23.14 | CIA-26 | BZFlag: 03blast007 * r16536 10/trunk/web/submitimages/tmp/ (directory.php index.php): Rename the directory listing script to directory.php |
| 04:25.36 | CIA-26 | BZFlag: 03blast007 * r16537 10/trunk/web/submitimages/tmp/directory.php: New directory listing script. |
| 04:41.24 | short_circuit | ~blast007++ |
| 04:54.01 | AAA_awright | http://bzflag.redjacket.ws/ is kinda up |
| 04:54.11 | AAA_awright | most stuff works, not all probably |
| 05:05.42 | Constitution | is ohloh not updating properly? |
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| 05:10.55 | JeffM | now to find out why the UVs are jacked |
| 05:19.01 | JeffM | did anyone else test anymore on trunk? |
| 05:31.11 | ShadowSpectre | Ping: Jeff |
| 05:31.33 | JeffM | ? |
| 05:32.03 | ShadowSpectre | Hi, Jeff. Someone was asking about hardware identifiers today. |
| 05:32.13 | JeffM | meaning? |
| 05:32.22 | ShadowSpectre | was that something along the lines of what we talked about? |
| 05:32.33 | ShadowSpectre | Not sure, but it piqued my interest |
| 05:32.40 | JeffM | you mean identifying a client by some hardware? |
| 05:33.00 | ShadowSpectre | I thinkit was something about hardware bans... maybe I need to get more info |
| 05:33.09 | JeffM | can't be done |
| 05:33.18 | JeffM | there is no way to trust any info sent from the client app |
| 05:33.30 | ShadowSpectre | I know whay I was thinking of is impractical, but he had some other idea |
| 05:33.46 | ShadowSpectre | It was TKtech.. I guess he's BS? |
| 05:34.04 | JeffM | probalby some overly complex way of trying to obfuscate it, or using a closed source compoenet |
| 05:34.09 | JeffM | and that we can't do |
| 05:34.45 | ShadowSpectre | I'll seee if I can get what he was proposing. It was interesting that he was in agreementr with your conclusion. |
| 05:35.00 | ShadowSpectre | as am I after our discussion |
| 05:35.02 | JeffM | the core problem is that the game sucks |
| 05:35.10 | JeffM | the server can prevent most cheats |
| 05:35.18 | JeffM | once you do that then there isn't much point in cheating |
| 05:35.22 | JeffM | so you have a lot less people to ban |
| 05:35.27 | ShadowSpectre | The concept is good though |
| 05:35.32 | JeffM | what concept? |
| 05:36.01 | ShadowSpectre | well... in its purest form, eliminating miscreants |
| 05:36.16 | ShadowSpectre | however impractical it may be |
| 05:36.22 | JeffM | hardware IDs will never do that |
| 05:36.26 | JeffM | they can always be faked |
| 05:36.29 | ShadowSpectre | Like I said I'll pick his brain |
| 05:36.33 | JeffM | you can NEVER trust info from the client |
| 05:36.33 | JeffM | ever |
| 05:36.39 | ShadowSpectre | of course :) |
| 05:36.39 | JeffM | there is no magic bullet around that |
| 05:36.51 | JeffM | the only thing you can do is somethign they know, not something they have |
| 05:36.51 | ShadowSpectre | not for lack of want, though |
| 05:37.35 | JeffM | well I want to magicaly receive 1 billion dolars, that dosn't mean it's going to happen |
| 05:38.00 | ShadowSpectre | it would be neat if something could be develloped... think of it.. BzFlag would be credited for solving a myriad of security problems. |
| 05:38.28 | JeffM | that's like saing it'd be nice if bzflag could solve world hunger |
| 05:38.31 | ShadowSpectre | i'M SURE YOU'LL GET ALL THE MONEY YOU COULD EVER WANT SOME DAY |
| 05:38.31 | JeffM | because its' vain |
| 05:38.37 | ShadowSpectre | Oops caps |
| 05:39.05 | purple_cow | I thought bzflag had already solved world hunger and moved on to bigger problems |
| 05:39.07 | JeffM | hardware IDs are only good for closed source systems when combined with trusted activations |
| 05:39.11 | purple_cow | someone lied to me, I guess |
| 05:39.18 | JeffM | purple_cow: I always lie to you |
| 05:39.24 | JeffM | it gives me great joy to do so |
| 05:39.25 | purple_cow | jerk |
| 05:39.31 | ShadowSpectre | Bz Would be up there with bill and melinda gates... and bono :P |
| 05:39.32 | JeffM | I live to serve ;) |
| 05:40.40 | a_meteorite | Meanie, Jeff too has crushed my hopes! |
| 05:40.47 | JeffM | you can generate a reasonable level of security with hardware IDs, in closed source paid software |
| 05:40.50 | a_meteorite | Liar :P |
| 05:41.02 | ShadowSpectre | he'll pee in your cornflakes if you give him a chance :) |
| 05:41.07 | JeffM | where you tie each run of the software to a hardware ID you geneated at start |
| 05:41.15 | JeffM | and disallow other entries |
| 05:41.15 | a_meteorite | Ick, and I'll mistake it for honey at that! |
| 05:41.21 | JeffM | that works FINE for paid stuff |
| 05:41.26 | JeffM | but that is not how we rool |
| 05:41.31 | JeffM | we have to allow ANYONE to play |
| 05:41.34 | ShadowSpectre | only if he eats asparagus first |
| 05:41.40 | JeffM | so any new hardware ID has to be accepted |
| 05:41.47 | a_meteorite | And dissect the source |
| 05:41.51 | JeffM | so they can jsut fake them out and get roudn the bans |
| 05:42.06 | ShadowSpectre | are any hardware identifiers ever tied to the compile? |
| 05:42.09 | a_meteorite | Could give out any old ID, there would be no way to verify it |
| 05:42.20 | JeffM | ShadowSpectre: what would that do? |
| 05:42.25 | a_meteorite | ShadowSpectre: It'd be easy to swap it out |
| 05:42.31 | JeffM | if its sent over the net, they can change it |
| 05:42.49 | ShadowSpectre | oh well.. I am going to shut up now |
| 05:42.54 | JeffM | like I say, they only work when you get them once as trusted, and only allow those trusted IDs |
| 05:43.02 | JeffM | like they are paid |
| 05:43.09 | JeffM | we allow anyone to plat |
| 05:43.11 | JeffM | play |
| 05:43.18 | JeffM | we don't charge money |
| 05:43.37 | JeffM | if we could require everyone to register that would just get rid of like 50% of your jerks right there. |
| 05:43.41 | JeffM | with no code changes. |
| 05:43.45 | ShadowSpectre | Met, is TKtech now unbanned? |
| 05:43.58 | JeffM | why was he banned? |
| 05:44.27 | ShadowSpectre | various reasons. he's on the banlist like 5 times |
| 05:44.40 | JeffM | and THIS is a person you actualy listen to about security? |
| 05:45.00 | ShadowSpectre | I don't know him.. only of him |
| 05:45.06 | JeffM | still |
| 05:45.18 | JeffM | no wonder he's a proponent of a crap ban system |
| 05:45.36 | ShadowSpectre | and even if he has done bad things, it makes him no less intelligent. He is just misdirected |
| 05:45.48 | JeffM | not nesisarly |
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| 05:45.55 | JeffM | I never said he wasn't smart |
| 05:46.01 | JeffM | but he's probably snowing you under |
| 05:46.10 | JeffM | he's probalby very smart |
| 05:46.12 | JeffM | and a good actor |
| 05:46.16 | JeffM | most are |
| 05:46.43 | ShadowSpectre | think of that abignale guy.. the guy that did all the forgery in the 60's and 70's.. he came up with a lot of the security features on most every check we see now |
| 05:47.15 | Constitution | requiring admin approval for people to play (like most leagues do) deals with like 99% of the problem |
| 05:47.22 | JeffM | your bassing your trust on a leonardo de craprio movie? |
| 05:47.32 | ShadowSpectre | no.. I read the book |
| 05:47.36 | JeffM | heh |
| 05:47.36 | ShadowSpectre | much better |
| 05:47.42 | JeffM | it was a good movie |
| 05:47.48 | JeffM | but that's a difrent system |
| 05:47.58 | JeffM | hardware IDs are NOT a bad idea |
| 05:48.03 | JeffM | for things other then open source games |
| 05:48.04 | ShadowSpectre | kinda like clockwork orange.. the movie did not do it justice |
| 05:48.30 | JeffM | our system is unique because by default we have to allow someone IN |
| 05:48.31 | JeffM | not out |
| 05:48.37 | JeffM | most security systems are the other way around |
| 05:48.45 | JeffM | you only allow IN specific people |
| 05:48.59 | JeffM | we want to only block specific people |
| 05:49.08 | JeffM | and all our info from them is untrusted. |
| 05:49.10 | ShadowSpectre | that might be neat for a multi tiered client model |
| 05:49.16 | JeffM | huh? |
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| 05:49.27 | JeffM | you can do whatever you want to the client |
| 05:49.32 | ShadowSpectre | have unregistered players with fewer features/rights |
| 05:49.35 | JeffM | but at some point data has to get sent over the net to us |
| 05:49.44 | JeffM | oh sure, that's been talked about a lot |
| 05:49.51 | JeffM | but that's not the client that gets tiered |
| 05:49.55 | JeffM | that's the server network |
| 05:49.56 | ShadowSpectre | carrot and stick |
| 05:50.13 | JeffM | the only thing we can truely trust is the list server |
| 05:50.31 | ShadowSpectre | so long as the server owner is nor rouge |
| 05:50.36 | ShadowSpectre | not |
| 05:50.43 | JeffM | we run the list server |
| 05:50.47 | JeffM | I don't mean game servers |
| 05:50.49 | JeffM | I mean our list server |
| 05:50.54 | JeffM | that is the ONLY thing we can trust |
| 05:51.01 | ShadowSpectre | I'll learn the heirarchy eventually |
| 05:51.17 | JeffM | we trust game servers slightly more then game clients |
| 05:51.20 | JeffM | but not much |
| 05:51.39 | ShadowSpectre | anyways, nice to talk to you. Good-night |
| 05:51.45 | JeffM | have fun |
| 05:52.07 | JeffM | why is it that people think that one security model is good for everything? |
| 05:52.21 | JeffM | even when the problem isn't one of security |
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| 06:41.26 | CIA-26 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * r16538 10/trunk/bzflag/src/geometry/TankGeometryMgr.cxx: switch to a slightly less bad way to read a file. really this whole function could use rewriting to just read straight from the stream; tokenize is a crutch. |
| 06:59.27 | CIA-26 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * r16539 10/trunk/bzflag/src/geometry/TankGeometryMgr.cxx: probably best not to include msvcisms either (oops) |
| 07:08.34 | CIA-26 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * r16540 10/trunk/bzflag/src/geometry/TankGeometryMgr.cxx: |
| 07:08.34 | CIA-26 | BZFlag: no need to s/\//\\/g on windows, fstream handles posix filenames just fine. |
| 07:08.34 | CIA-26 | BZFlag: avoid unnecessary conversions to/from std::string |
| 07:25.54 | CIA-26 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * r16541 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzflag/playing.cxx: if we are not currently in keyboard input mode, do not accept keyboard motion. if we are currently in the menu, and are not in keyboard input mode, do not try to switch to keyboard input mode. |
| 07:33.18 | CIA-26 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * r16542 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzflag/HUDRenderer.cxx: revert r16532. old behavior was correct here, new behavior is off by one. please discuss and test before reapplying. |
| 08:04.39 | Constitution | ~dtremenak++ |
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| 08:35.03 | jorgenpt | brlcad: What's the URL of the permanent home of the postmortem? |
| 08:36.55 | Constitution | http://my.bzflag.org/gsoc/bzflag_gsoc2007_post_mortem.pdf |
| 08:37.09 | jorgenpt | Thanks :) |
| 08:37.16 | Constitution | np :) |
| 08:47.22 | purple_cow | that's a pretty professional looking report |
| 08:47.27 | purple_cow | what's that from? |
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| 09:08.29 | Constitution | brlcad made it |
| 09:33.01 | L4m3r | I'm not sure how well sampling and editing flies with copyright |
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| 12:30.07 | rtfm | Winny: clear your cookies for my.bzflag.org and .bzflag.org |
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| 16:25.03 | CIA-26 | GPLib: 03JeffM2501 * r45 10/trunk/GPLib/ (5 files in 4 dirs): |
| 16:25.03 | CIA-26 | GPLib: make build on VC8 |
| 16:25.03 | CIA-26 | GPLib: disable texture system |
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| 17:03.03 | CIA-26 | GPLib: 03JeffM2501 * r47 10/trunk/GPLib/core/src/winAPIDisplay.cpp: don't enumerate the desktop res forever, there is only one. |
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| 17:30.22 | CIA-26 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r16543 10/trunk/bzflag/src/bzflag/bzflag.cxx: |
| 17:30.22 | CIA-26 | BZFlag: refactor out some code in the client main. |
| 17:30.22 | CIA-26 | BZFlag: always use a depth buffer, it's the 21st century |
| 17:30.22 | CIA-26 | BZFlag: ask for a 32 bit depth buffer by default if the config hasn't forced us to go into ATI suck mode. |
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| 17:38.54 | bz72 | i got an email saying they just added me to this group |
| 17:38.57 | bz72 | why? |
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| 17:40.14 | whodaman | bz72, what group were you added to? |
| 17:40.18 | whodaman | oh |
| 17:40.20 | whodaman | ... |
| 17:41.13 | ruskie | lol |
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| 17:46.48 | olpc-nn | hi |
| 17:47.08 | olpc-nn | this is nn :) on the one laptop per chiold laptop |
| 17:47.21 | JeffM | um.... great |
| 17:47.40 | olpc-nn | its the new $100 laptop |
| 17:47.52 | JeffM | we know |
| 17:47.53 | ruskie | <-- is on the eee |
| 17:47.56 | JeffM | we do read slashdot |
| 17:48.14 | ruskie | now where is that digicam so I can take a nice pic of bzflag running on the eee... |
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| 17:48.41 | JeffM | it's got a what intel 950 or something in it? |
| 17:48.54 | olpc-nn | no the AMD Genode |
| 17:49.02 | JeffM | not you nn |
| 17:49.04 | JeffM | the ee |
| 17:49.18 | JeffM | everyone knows about the OLPC |
| 17:51.39 | olpc-nn | lol ok .... what is the ee |
| 17:52.12 | JeffM | acer EEEPC |
| 17:52.23 | JeffM | 300$ machine, ships with linux |
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| 17:54.35 | ruskie | JeffM, 900 running at 650 |
| 17:54.52 | JeffM | how does it do in GL? |
| 17:55.55 | jftsang | would it be possible to make a "tank driving mode" for observers, where they drive around in tanks but can't shoot |
| 17:56.17 | JeffM | if someone write it |
| 17:56.21 | craig | that would be cool |
| 17:57.06 | jftsang | and also, observers should be able to turn on radar on no radar maps |
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| 17:58.41 | craig | players can see observer tanks? Maybe shoot them, which causes them to spin or move a little |
| 17:59.09 | JeffM | why? |
| 17:59.14 | JeffM | that'd be silly |
| 17:59.18 | JeffM | observers OBSERVE |
| 17:59.20 | JeffM | that's it |
| 17:59.44 | craig | players could then see who the observer is watching |
| 17:59.48 | JeffM | why? |
| 17:59.57 | craig | for fun |
| 18:00.07 | JeffM | play the game for fun ;) |
| 18:00.51 | Blizzard- | F678/s |
| 18:00.53 | whodaman | Heh...that'd get so annoying during a GU match |
| 18:00.56 | Blizzard- | is that roght? |
| 18:00.57 | Blizzard- | right* |
| 18:01.07 | Blizzard- | How you spell it? |
| 18:01.13 | whodaman | Blizzard-, dunno, go check the forums. |
| 18:01.16 | craig | I just got my first multicore processor a Q6600 |
| 18:01.23 | Blizzard- | Can't whoda |
| 18:01.25 | Blizzard- | Soooo many pages. |
| 18:01.48 | whodaman | Blizzard-, ... |
| 18:01.57 | craig | came with motherboard, under $300 |
| 18:02.11 | craig | $260 + tax |
| 18:02.14 | Blizzard- | F687/s |
| 18:02.14 | whodaman | You go to the "SEARCH" option and you go type in his name where it says "Authors..." |
| 18:02.22 | Blizzard- | It said |
| 18:02.28 | Blizzard- | Nothing found |
| 18:02.39 | Blizzard- | Got it now. |
| 18:02.42 | JeffM | craig, yeah that's what they run for now |
| 18:02.56 | ruskie | JeffM, it runs bzflag great for me uploading a few vid clips of it running on the eee http://ruskie.dtdm.net/caches/ (first vid ~3 min to go to upload) |
| 18:02.58 | JeffM | AMD droiped the price on the phenom quads so intel is doing the same |
| 18:03.09 | JeffM | ruskie, cool |
| 18:03.47 | ruskie | JeffM, I wouldn't have bought the eee if it didn't run bzflag... and since that's the most intensive thing I generaly run it'll completly replace my desktop :) |
| 18:04.16 | craig | yeah, I'm an amd fan, but the phenom has problems, and the stock fan could keep up, I returned it, it was only $199 with motherboard |
| 18:04.42 | JeffM | ruskie, wow |
| 18:04.47 | JeffM | thats kinda sad ;) |
| 18:04.51 | ruskie | lol |
| 18:05.11 | craig | the intel runs cool too. |
| 18:05.26 | ruskie | considering I spent a lot of time in terminals and/or web browsing there really isn't much need for such stuff |
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| 18:05.45 | ruskie | the eee seems quite capable for my needs... not to mention I can carry it anywhere with me... |
| 18:06.24 | ruskie | but I must get rid of the default setup soon... or it'll drive me mad... |
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| 18:06.50 | ruskie | already have a nice chroot ready to deploy on it... now just need the 8gb usb flash drive to load it onto the system... |
| 18:07.55 | ruskie | http://ruskie.dtdm.net/caches/p2112852.avi <-- vid one uploaded... |
| 18:08.14 | ruskie | hopefully it's not complete crap... |
| 18:10.06 | ruskie | http://ruskie.dtdm.net/caches/p2112853.avi <-- second vid up... |
| 18:11.57 | JeffM | tiny |
| 18:12.07 | ruskie | well it has a vga out port :) |
| 18:12.21 | ruskie | so I do plan on running on a normal display :) |
| 18:12.22 | JeffM | and will get slower at higher reses |
| 18:12.31 | ruskie | I'll see |
| 18:14.44 | ruskie | http://ruskie.dtdm.net/caches/p2112854.avi <-- and the third one and that's that... |
| 18:17.15 | JeffM | that with depth buffer on or off? |
| 18:17.49 | ruskie | erm how do I check? |
| 18:18.05 | JeffM | what version was it? |
| 18:18.24 | ruskie | 2.0.8 |
| 18:18.38 | JeffM | then I belive it would be in the display settings menu |
| 18:19.16 | ruskie | don't see a depth buffer option... |
| 18:19.22 | ruskie | atleast it's not named like that |
| 18:19.28 | JeffM | then it's probably on |
| 18:19.35 | JeffM | if you are using a default conifg |
| 18:19.36 | JeffM | tht's good |
| 18:19.47 | ruskie | I had to disable smoothing though |
| 18:19.55 | ruskie | that just zapped the fps |
| 18:20.09 | JeffM | blending |
| 18:20.12 | JeffM | most likely |
| 18:20.35 | ruskie | blending is on |
| 18:20.38 | ruskie | smoothing is off |
| 18:20.43 | ruskie | dithering is on |
| 18:20.55 | JeffM | what is the textures set to? |
| 18:21.29 | ruskie | texture nearestmipmaplinear |
| 18:21.45 | JeffM | can you do linearmipmaplinear? |
| 18:22.56 | ruskie | yup |
| 18:23.02 | JeffM | any change in FPS? |
| 18:23.08 | ruskie | maybe 1-2 fps |
| 18:23.13 | JeffM | cool |
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| 18:24.02 | ruskie | of course I could unblock the cpu to run at full 900MHz... that could possibly improve it as well... |
| 18:24.15 | JeffM | and why do you downclock it? |
| 18:24.24 | ruskie | it's downclocked by default |
| 18:24.28 | JeffM | oh |
| 18:24.30 | ruskie | and locked to 650 |
| 18:24.32 | JeffM | batery probably |
| 18:24.35 | ruskie | need a bios update |
| 18:24.45 | ruskie | I think it's 20 min's worth of difference |
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| 18:24.59 | ruskie | afaik there are some benchmarks of the stuff on www.eeeuser.com |
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| 18:30.11 | ruskie | erm... why did the 2.0.10 tarball change after release??? |
| 18:30.19 | JeffM | cus it was bad |
| 18:30.24 | JeffM | changed a couple times |
| 18:31.03 | ruskie | can't you just release -1 -2 etc... versions in such cases? |
| 18:31.22 | JeffM | wasn't part of our version scheeme at that time |
| 18:31.27 | JeffM | we have a new scheem that allows for that |
| 18:31.36 | JeffM | it's what sparked off the grand version change thingy ;) |
| 18:31.38 | JeffM | aka 3.0 |
| 18:31.41 | ruskie | :) |
| 18:31.53 | ruskie | highly annoying... |
| 18:32.03 | JeffM | hence why we had to change |
| 18:32.10 | ruskie | so I can be sure the new tarball is safe and not tampered with by an external entity |
| 18:32.22 | JeffM | paranoid mucH? |
| 18:32.28 | JeffM | seriously, it's a VIDEO GAME |
| 18:32.31 | ruskie | policy |
| 18:32.33 | L4m3r | no, only by internal entities :) |
| 18:32.45 | JeffM | VIDEO GAME |
| 18:32.52 | ruskie | it's the distro policy... |
| 18:32.58 | JeffM | hence why we changed ;) |
| 18:33.10 | ruskie | if a tarball changes make sure it's actually ok... |
| 18:33.33 | JeffM | viiiidddddeeeeeoooooo ggggaaaaammmmmeeeeee ;) |
| 18:33.46 | ruskie | doesn't matter if it's a text file |
| 18:33.56 | JeffM | ruskie, dude, we know thats why we changed. |
| 18:33.59 | JeffM | can't change the past |
| 18:34.03 | ruskie | yeah |
| 18:34.31 | JeffM | we will now bump the major version with each incombatable release |
| 18:34.51 | JeffM | that gives us the revision number to use as *gasp* a revision |
| 18:34.57 | ruskie | :) |
| 18:35.33 | JeffM | and we reserve the 99 minor version for dev on the next major |
| 18:36.47 | ruskie | I wonder if 3.0 will run on the eee... |
| 18:36.53 | JeffM | try it and see |
| 18:36.59 | ruskie | but I should firt try 2.0 on fullscreen |
| 18:37.07 | JeffM | what quality do you run at now? |
| 18:37.28 | ruskie | high |
| 18:37.38 | ruskie | and useQuality 2 |
| 18:37.55 | JeffM | then that is medium in 3.0 |
| 18:38.03 | JeffM | how does experimental run? |
| 18:38.43 | ruskie | lemme try that |
| 18:39.25 | ruskie | very well infact |
| 18:39.52 | JeffM | then that is high in 3.0 |
| 18:40.39 | ruskie | now to try at a normal res |
| 18:40.57 | JeffM | what res do you normaly run at? |
| 18:42.02 | ruskie | 1280x1024 |
| 18:42.16 | JeffM | not too bad |
| 18:42.42 | ruskie | well experimental has some issues |
| 18:42.52 | ruskie | namely sw doesn't look proper |
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| 18:42.58 | ruskie | but high runs just fine on full res |
| 18:43.23 | JeffM | how many fps? |
| 18:43.33 | ruskie | high 20-26 |
| 18:43.43 | ruskie | experimental 11-13 |
| 18:43.46 | JeffM | that's not high |
| 18:43.50 | ruskie | lol |
| 18:43.53 | JeffM | ouch |
| 18:43.56 | JeffM | that's not much room |
| 18:44.03 | ruskie | bit it's actually playable |
| 18:44.06 | ruskie | it doesn't stutter or anything |
| 18:44.07 | JeffM | sure |
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| 18:44.27 | JeffM | a more complex map will kill it |
| 18:44.29 | ruskie | well considering my r9250 doesn't go much higher than 25-30 |
| 18:44.40 | ruskie | well I only play two castles |
| 18:45.40 | ruskie | so that's the only thing it needs to run... |
| 18:45.51 | ruskie | basicaly very limited use case :) |
| 18:46.17 | JeffM | untill we change somethign and you are screwed |
| 18:47.01 | ruskie | would need quite a bit of changes to screw that I'd say |
| 18:47.11 | ruskie | and I'm screwed then any which way I'd go |
| 18:47.18 | JeffM | your joking right? |
| 18:47.21 | L4m3r | I'm impressed that it performs that well |
| 18:47.24 | ruskie | I don't plan on buying a new gfx card until the two r9250 ones die... |
| 18:47.29 | JeffM | the new font system could kill you in a heartbeat |
| 18:47.59 | ruskie | got a deb pkg for the 3.0 ? |
| 18:48.03 | JeffM | nope |
| 18:48.07 | JeffM | compile it |
| 18:48.15 | ruskie | :) |
| 18:48.25 | ruskie | I will... some day :) |
| 18:48.42 | JeffM | but I mean if we double the geometric complexity of the tanks, BAM that's like 2x geo for you, and since you are at your limit, it could kill you |
| 18:48.45 | ruskie | but until I get rid of this xandros default install I only take debs |
| 18:48.54 | JeffM | install a compiler |
| 18:49.30 | ruskie | I have that... on all my other boxen running source mage :) |
| 18:49.38 | ruskie | I don't plan on figuring out debian systems... |
| 18:50.01 | ruskie | but I'll add a 3.0 build to my chroot that will go onto the eee |
| 18:50.24 | ruskie | hopefully that won't be more than 10-14 days from now(waiting for an 8gb usb flash drive) |
| 18:50.42 | JeffM | shoudln't those be easy to get? |
| 18:50.58 | ruskie | I have a few other things with that order |
| 18:51.10 | ruskie | and it's 10 days till they'll have them(maybe sooner) |
| 18:51.24 | ruskie | then 2-3 days for delivery |
| 18:51.36 | JeffM | local places don't have them? |
| 18:51.51 | ruskie | this is local... I don't have time to go to shops anymore that much... |
| 18:52.06 | JeffM | ahh |
| 18:52.23 | ruskie | so basicaly using online ordering to have stuff delivered... |
| 18:52.30 | L4m3r | lol |
| 18:52.51 | ruskie | not to mention the main suplier where I used to go often hasn't got much in stock lately... |
| 18:53.10 | ruskie | so had to find a new one and this online one so far worked out well |
| 18:53.33 | ruskie | also getting as usb gps unit and a few other bits along the way |
| 18:53.42 | ruskie | and 2gb mem for the eee |
| 18:55.45 | ruskie | of course the current eee will most likely become a firewall in a few months time... I plan to buy a few more of them... |
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| 19:18.48 | jftsang | WeBeGood, still following it? :) |
| 19:21.30 | WeBeGood | yeah, they are an hour behind right now on their six hour walk. |
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| 19:22.28 | jftsang | sounds like my ICT class :P |
| 19:23.51 | blast007 | is the hit zone for a regular bullet against a regular tank only a radius, or does it use the radius first, and then do a more exact box collision check? |
| 19:26.20 | L4m3r | afaik, in 2.0 it's a truncated sphere |
| 19:26.36 | L4m3r | dunno if it's been changed in trunk, though |
| 19:26.54 | JeffM | in 3.0 it's a truncated teapot |
| 19:27.02 | JeffM | tho I'd like to change it to a duck or rabbit |
| 19:27.05 | JeffM | be more accurate |
| 19:27.10 | L4m3r | o_O |
| 19:27.21 | JeffM | glu_teapot baby! |
| 19:27.40 | JeffM | actualy glut_teapot |
| 19:28.03 | JeffM | it's a joke |
| 19:28.20 | JeffM | when you look at a lot of graphics and GL samples, they all just do primitives |
| 19:28.21 | JeffM | sphere |
| 19:28.24 | JeffM | cylinder |
| 19:28.32 | JeffM | and for some reason, teapot, duck, and bunny |
| 19:28.39 | L4m3r | how odd |
| 19:28.43 | JeffM | so those MUST be atomic primitives right? ;) |
| 19:28.56 | JeffM | glBegin(GL_BUNNIES); |
| 19:28.58 | L4m3r | heh... there's an idea for custom tank models |
| 19:29.04 | L4m3r | ducks vs bunnies |
| 19:29.11 | L4m3r | "hunting season" |
| 19:29.16 | JeffM | they all have to be the same right now |
| 19:29.23 | L4m3r | yeah, I figured |
| 19:29.30 | L4m3r | still a fun thought, though |
| 19:29.44 | JeffM | the existing geo manager only does one set of lists for all tanks |
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| 20:11.59 | SpazzyMcGee | I can't log in to the BZBB |
| 20:12.34 | blast007 | SpazzyMcGee: clear your cookies |
| 20:13.02 | blast007 | or at least the ones for my.bzflag.org and .bzflag.org |
| 20:14.13 | SpazzyMcGee | Ah, that sorted it. Cheers |
| 20:54.01 | CIA-26 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r16545 10/trunk/bzflag/ (9 files in 7 dirs): move the obj reader into it's own file so it can be used elsewhere |
| 20:54.20 | CIA-26 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r16546 10/trunk/bzflag/MSVC/VC71/bzadmin.vcproj: no curses for non distro builds |
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| 21:44.46 | timster120 | how do you fight |
| 21:45.00 | timster120 | anyone? |
| 21:45.32 | whodaman- | timster120, define "fight" |
| 21:46.16 | a_meteorite | whodaman-: fist fights |
| 21:46.19 | whodaman- | ... |
| 21:46.33 | a_meteorite | he got mad at a cheater |
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| 22:17.22 | CIA-26 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r16548 10/trunk/bzflag/tools/tankview/ (simpleSDLView.cpp simpleSDLView.h): add camera class and key defines |
| 22:18.11 | CIA-26 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r16549 10/trunk/bzflag/tools/tankview/ (tankview.cpp vc80/tankview.vcproj): draw a view with a ground grid and the standard tank bounds. |
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| 22:40.11 | Constitution | what's tankview? |
| 22:41.10 | JeffM | it should let people view the tank |
| 22:41.16 | JeffM | and me debug the model code :) |
| 22:41.57 | JeffM | it's a huge pain to rejoin a game, drive to another player, etc.. just to see if the tank is drawing correctly |
| 22:42.15 | JeffM | I also figure it will help people see how the tank will look in game as they design new models or parts. |
| 22:43.22 | a_meteorite | are you guys playing with the tank models? |
| 22:43.33 | Think_Differentl | In game real time map editing would be interesting. sort of like cube/sauerbraten |
| 22:43.40 | Winny | OBJ support :) |
| 22:43.45 | Think_Differentl | I'm sure that is a bit too complex, though. |
| 22:43.45 | a_meteorite | Think_Differentl: uhhh... sorta |
| 22:43.55 | Constitution | Think_Differentl: that's a game BZFlag will probably never become |
| 22:43.58 | JeffM | Think_Differentl, umm yeah bit off to left field |
| 22:44.02 | a_meteorite | Winny: I wonder how hit detection is figured out if people edit their obj's |
| 22:44.09 | Think_Differentl | still would be interesting |
| 22:44.13 | JeffM | a_meteorite, same way it works now |
| 22:44.17 | a_meteorite | it must be a fixed size |
| 22:44.24 | JeffM | it is |
| 22:44.26 | Winny | I'd think they woould be seperate of themselves |
| 22:44.29 | a_meteorite | ah |
| 22:44.29 | JeffM | same way it works now :) |
| 22:44.39 | JeffM | the hit is not based on the geometry at all |
| 22:44.45 | a_meteorite | so someone could make their own tank models and release it in a pack... super cool |
| 22:44.47 | a_meteorite | I see |
| 22:44.55 | a_meteorite | so a fixed size ellipse |
| 22:44.57 | JeffM | the only thing the geometry is used for is drawing |
| 22:45.25 | JeffM | loped sphere |
| 22:46.45 | a_meteorite | so did the tank model have to be totally redone or was the hard coded GL the same sort of right hand system, etc, so it could be made an obj? |
| 22:49.04 | JeffM | nope |
| 22:49.12 | JeffM | the default tank isn't an obj |
| 22:51.39 | JeffM | and won't be |
| 22:52.14 | a_meteorite | so what's this obj talk? |
| 22:52.27 | JeffM | for the objs that can be loaded |
| 22:52.39 | Winny | whoa.. that domain was registered and ready in 3 hours o.O |
| 22:52.48 | a_meteorite | Winny: what domain? :o |
| 22:52.49 | JeffM | to replace the parts of the defualt tanks |
| 22:52.52 | JeffM | Constitution, no animation |
| 22:53.03 | JeffM | OBJ is static models only |
| 22:53.22 | JeffM | animation throws a whole nother wrentch into to format |
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| 22:53.39 | JeffM | since finding a "standard" format that supports animations is dificult |
| 22:54.11 | Constitution | oh |
| 22:54.29 | JeffM | you'd have to decide on vertex or skeletals |
| 22:54.40 | JeffM | for vertex, MD3 is probably the simplest |
| 22:54.46 | JeffM | for skeletals, then it gets harder |
| 22:56.03 | JeffM | at that point you usualy pick an editor to side with, or roll your own |
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| 23:43.14 | Constitution | JeffM: should tools/tankview/vc80 be vc8? |
| 23:43.38 | JeffM | probalby |
| 23:43.45 | JeffM | since they arn't going to do an 8.1 now :) |
| 23:45.25 | CIA-26 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r16552 10/trunk/bzflag/tools/tankview/ (6 files in 3 dirs): |
| 23:45.25 | CIA-26 | BZFlag: texture loader |
| 23:45.25 | CIA-26 | BZFlag: event handler |
| 23:45.25 | CIA-26 | BZFlag: object loader |
| 23:45.25 | CIA-26 | BZFlag: show and load the tank objs that we find in the BZ data dir. |
| 23:45.43 | CIA-26 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r16553 10/trunk/bzflag/src/ (3D/Model.cxx common/TextUtils.cxx): whitespace |
| 23:51.48 | JeffM | now to figure out why the UVs look fine in the viewer but not in BZ |
| 23:56.22 | CIA-26 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r16554 10/trunk/bzflag/src/3D/Model.cxx: save and reset the texture matrix when doing obj model drawing, so the UVs are used correctly. |