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| 00:40.59 | pacman87 | is there a way to access server variables (like _explodeTime) from a plugin? |
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| 00:50.01 | JeffM | pacman87, sure, using the bzdb methods |
| 00:50.20 | delusional_ | or use bzfsCron |
| 00:50.45 | JeffM | cron can't realy talk well to another plug-in |
| 00:51.08 | delusional_ | it automatically has admin perms |
| 00:51.25 | JeffM | yeah, dosn't have anything to do with his question ;) |
| 00:51.49 | delusional_ | depends what he means by access. |
| 00:52.02 | JeffM | get and set from code |
| 00:52.16 | pacman87 | just get |
| 00:52.40 | delusional_ | bzfscron can set only |
| 00:52.44 | pacman87 | i'm trying to write a plugin so if you die more frequently than _explodeTime, you get kicked |
| 00:53.08 | pacman87 | to pervent the "get your team tk-kicked" cheat |
| 00:53.12 | JeffM | delusional_, he's asking a dev question ;) |
| 00:53.20 | JeffM | not how do I use the server |
| 00:53.27 | JeffM | pacman87, therea re methods for geting and setting |
| 00:53.38 | pacman87 | yeah, i just found them in the API |
| 00:53.49 | pacman87 | bzfsAPI.h |
| 00:54.02 | JeffM | yup |
| 00:54.17 | pacman87 | how do i know whether the variable is a double/int? |
| 00:54.25 | JeffM | you know |
| 00:54.30 | JeffM | the are all stored as strings |
| 00:54.41 | JeffM | you can eval it as ether or |
| 00:54.49 | JeffM | it's generaly always safe to do it as a double |
| 00:54.55 | JeffM | then you don't loose any data |
| 00:54.59 | pacman87 | ok, thanks |
| 00:55.26 | JeffM | sure |
| 00:55.31 | pacman87 | so bz_getBZDBDouble("_explodeTime") will return what i need |
| 00:55.39 | JeffM | yup |
| 00:56.03 | pacman87 | thanks, back to coding :) |
| 00:56.07 | JeffM | have fun |
| 00:56.56 | L4m3r | gonna install the full version? |
| 00:57.00 | JeffM | yeah |
| 00:57.03 | L4m3r | :) |
| 00:57.10 | Winny | :o |
| 00:57.13 | JeffM | but i'll keep 9 |
| 00:57.15 | JeffM | 8 |
| 00:57.16 | L4m3r | is it good? I haven't bothered to get it (from MSDNAA) yet |
| 00:57.22 | JeffM | 8 is good |
| 00:57.30 | L4m3r | 2005? |
| 00:57.34 | JeffM | we got both 9 and 8 for the same price |
| 00:57.42 | JeffM | yeah, at work we are swaping to 2005 |
| 00:57.46 | L4m3r | 2003 |
| 00:57.53 | JeffM | the debuger in 2005 is VERY nice |
| 00:58.04 | JeffM | it actualy shows you what are in STL containers |
| 00:58.45 | L4m3r | nifty |
| 00:59.00 | L4m3r | couldn't 2003 do that? |
| 00:59.06 | JeffM | nope |
| 00:59.09 | L4m3r | or maybe it was just for your own classes... hm... |
| 00:59.31 | JeffM | here it shows like how many items are in a vector |
| 00:59.37 | JeffM | and lets you see the items in it, etcc. |
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| 01:00.02 | JeffM | 2005 will be the compiler we use for the 3.0 offical bins |
| 01:01.20 | L4m3r | do you recommend it over 2008? MSDNAA has every version since 6.0 :P |
| 01:01.33 | JeffM | for right now, yeah |
| 01:01.35 | L4m3r | 2005 and 2008 are the "pro" version |
| 01:01.40 | JeffM | 2k8 is BRAND new |
| 01:01.57 | L4m3r | gotta love college perks :) |
| 01:02.02 | JeffM | indeed |
| 01:02.26 | JeffM | now 2005 is stricter on a lot of stuff |
| 01:02.29 | JeffM | but it's a good thing |
| 01:02.51 | L4m3r | I don't do a whole lot of windoze dev |
| 01:03.07 | L4m3r | but it's nice to have a compiler on hand that's damn near failsafe :) |
| 01:03.42 | L4m3r | dependency issues make it a lot easier to break compilation on a linux system |
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| 02:09.29 | Teppic | ~seen Winny |
| 02:09.30 | ibot | winny is currently on #bzflag (4h 26m 5s) #kierra (4h 26m 5s) ##guleague (4h 26m 5s) ##essy (4h 26m 5s). Has said a total of 29 messages. Is idling for 1h 12m 20s, last said: ':o'. |
| 02:09.35 | Teppic | Is that right? |
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| 02:11.38 | pacman87 | what's the difference between bz_eKillEvent and bz_ePlayerDieEvent? |
| 02:12.14 | AHA | Teppic: yes |
| 02:12.17 | AHA | err |
| 02:12.18 | AHA | no |
| 02:12.28 | Teppic | It worked |
| 02:12.34 | AHA | if you ping him, he will respond |
| 02:12.36 | pacman87 | (18:59:03) Winny: :o |
| 02:12.43 | Teppic | ping winny |
| 02:12.47 | Teppic | ?? |
| 02:12.51 | pacman87 | currently (20:14:41) |
| 02:13.27 | AHA | he has been active in other channels |
| 02:13.47 | Teppic | ~ping winny |
| 02:13.47 | ibot | pong winny |
| 02:13.53 | Teppic | What?? |
| 02:13.59 | think_tank | lol |
| 02:14.31 | Teppic | I wondered if he was about, I didn't want a game of Marco Polo. |
| 02:14.57 | Teppic | think_tank did you just give that guys ip ranges? |
| 02:15.43 | think_tank | ? |
| 02:16.00 | Teppic | That'd be a no then... |
| 02:16.03 | think_tank | the cheater? |
| 02:16.22 | Teppic | Ya |
| 02:16.25 | think_tank | yes |
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| 02:17.07 | Teppic | Ahh, he's in the firewall now. Can't even email to complain. |
| 02:17.23 | think_tank | he won't bother. he's been doing this for a while. well known. |
| 02:17.35 | think_tank | did you get the ip he was using today? |
| 02:17.55 | Teppic | Yeah, is was part of the .5 subnet you msged |
| 02:18.05 | think_tank | k |
| 02:18.17 | Winny | Teppic, hi |
| 02:18.19 | Winny | whats up? |
| 02:18.36 | Teppic | I was reading the banlist.txt at bzflagr |
| 02:18.48 | Winny | ok? |
| 02:18.51 | Teppic | You klined all canadian comcast users? |
| 02:18.54 | Winny | uh |
| 02:18.58 | Winny | california |
| 02:19.03 | Winny | there is no comcast in canada |
| 02:19.03 | Teppic | Ahh |
| 02:19.19 | Teppic | I laughed my ass off when I read it. |
| 02:19.38 | Winny | not much else I could do.. the guy can (and does) change his IP in under 5 min for hours on end |
| 02:19.57 | spldart | How do I /ghost "callsign" password a unregistered name from observer slot on bzadmin? |
| 02:19.57 | Teppic | You are really polite to people that you ban there.... |
| 02:20.08 | Winny | Teppic, :P |
| 02:20.58 | Teppic | Oo, anyone know who registered logger a a user? |
| 02:21.05 | Teppic | Oo, anyone know who registered logger AS a user? |
| 02:21.14 | Winny | err |
| 02:22.27 | spldart | And... If I start a build as a user on ssh and then get disconnected does the build continue till completion? I was building a kernel and got a lockup on the ssh client side.. Now I'm logged back in and top shows the build still goin... Wasn't using screen |
| 02:22.52 | Winny | issh, the banlist is too long |
| 02:23.11 | Teppic | It may continue, but I would trust it |
| 02:23.26 | Teppic | It should have died with the tty/pty |
| 02:23.32 | Winny | hmm? |
| 02:23.54 | Teppic | Just use screen in future |
| 02:23.57 | Winny | I do ... |
| 02:24.23 | spldart | Poop |
| 02:24.42 | Teppic | spldart how long can it take, 20 mins max? |
| 02:25.32 | spldart | Ah! /kick |
| 02:25.37 | Teppic | LOL |
| 02:27.13 | spldart | Hadda kick my ghost observer... :( |
| 02:28.11 | Teppic | Does /ghost work with global auth? |
| 02:30.00 | spldart | dunno.. I did it with local auth hehehe |
| 02:48.57 | spldart | It timed out.. gotta restat with screen |
| 02:53.24 | spldart | Brand new machine.. hadn't even installed screen yet... didn't think about the fact that the Windoze rig I 'puttied' in with would lockup and crash timing out the ssh session and killing my terminal/build session LOLOL |
| 02:54.23 | Winny | heh |
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| 03:54.33 | brlcad | blast007: is F687/s a spambot perhaps? |
| 03:55.02 | brlcad | er rtfm |
| 03:57.11 | blast007 | heh.. |
| 03:57.26 | blast007 | I'm not sure what the issue was |
| 03:58.08 | blast007 | it gave an error about being unable to move the image to the temporary holding area |
| 04:06.51 | brlcad | because they just submitted two other images and both had different e-mail addrs |
| 04:13.56 | delusional_ | Jeff's a slacker |
| 04:14.02 | delusional_ | (on a dare) |
| 04:14.35 | whodaman- | ... |
| 04:15.46 | DTRemenak | delusional_: most good programmers are slackers |
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| 04:17.12 | whodaman- | heh |
| 04:17.14 | whodaman- | speak of the devil |
| 04:19.47 | JeffM | dude I didn't know that was your sister, I swear |
| 04:20.31 | Winny | bow chika wow wow |
| 04:20.33 | whodaman- | hahahaha |
| 04:20.33 | Winny | ... |
| 04:20.45 | whodaman- | Winny, they have that in Canada?! |
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| 04:20.52 | Mets | lol |
| 04:20.59 | Winny | yes. We have english here. |
| 04:21.02 | Mets | i haven't heard that in a while winny |
| 04:21.28 | whodaman- | that's the theme for a deodorant commercial here |
| 04:21.30 | whodaman- | ... |
| 05:41.42 | JeffM | good lord... I think I can safely uninstall VC6 |
| 05:41.53 | blast007 | heh |
| 05:44.41 | JeffM | and MSDN from 2000 |
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| 05:54.19 | CIA-26 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r16512 10/trunk/bzflag/MSVC/VC9/bzflag.vcproj: use the correct target dir for the debug distribution build |
| 06:16.43 | Winny | uhh |
| 06:16.44 | Winny | http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=12219 |
| 06:16.46 | Winny | ... |
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| 06:47.00 | hobbsc | could someone tell me how i can start up a server with ducati rules and a random map? it's been forever since i've started a bzflag server |
| 06:47.29 | brlcad | there's a wiki page example for that iirc |
| 06:48.55 | hobbsc | great |
| 06:48.56 | hobbsc | thanks |
| 06:50.08 | hobbsc | the ctf league uses random maps, right? not pillbox? |
| 06:59.25 | brlcad | yes, -cr |
| 06:59.37 | brlcad | with a specified density |
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| 07:20.51 | hobbsc | one last question: are teleporters legal in ducati style? |
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| 07:36.45 | macsforme | I believe not |
| 07:37.04 | praetorian | good game Constitution... but .. comper ;P |
| 07:43.27 | macsforme | :) |
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| 07:44.03 | Constitution | :) |
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| 10:38.08 | Constitution | bzbb admins: http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=11788 |
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| 11:00.52 | jftsang | " use "bot" clients to artificially inflate their list position"<< boxville ¬_¬ |
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| 11:23.19 | praetorian | weee |
| 11:23.25 | praetorian | jftsang: didnt like my commentary :P |
| 11:23.36 | jftsang | lol |
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| 14:34.35 | F687s | since when am I a spambot? |
| 14:36.40 | Winny | dunno |
| 14:36.45 | Winny | ~lart F687s |
| 14:36.45 | ibot | slaps a compatible dib on F687s's head |
| 14:37.10 | F687s | Ah, I give up... |
| 14:37.15 | F687s | ~hurt Winny |
| 14:37.16 | ibot | ACTION takes a large hammer and plays whack-the-mole on Winny's hands, laughing all the while |
| 14:40.22 | Winny | hehe |
| 14:54.34 | jftsang__ | teppic.homelinux.net:5151 is so bad |
| 14:54.48 | Teppic | Why? |
| 14:55.14 | jftsang__ | for a start, it's unfair for some teams |
| 14:55.24 | jftsang__ | the shots are slow and the tanks are too fast |
| 14:55.54 | Teppic | I have no control over the maps, I just own the hardware, if it really sucks I may take it down.... |
| 14:56.21 | Winny | hehe |
| 14:57.05 | F687s | right in the description it says that the map is "fixed" |
| 14:58.34 | Dessy | just try bzf.bzflag.org 5154 for FFA or 5155 for ctf ;) |
| 14:58.38 | Dessy | HIX Map |
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| 15:00.48 | Teppic | jftsang__ All fixed, I had words. |
| 15:01.02 | Teppic | The map ain't too hot though I agree. |
| 15:04.55 | jftsang__ | the map is so asymmetrical it's... bad |
| 15:08.32 | Dessy | HIX? |
| 15:09.13 | F687s | meh |
| 15:12.43 | whodaman- | his is like the most symmetric map around |
| 15:16.55 | F687s | the |
| 15:17.32 | F687s | "most symmetrical"? *pulls out ruler to measure the axis of symmetry* |
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| 16:40.18 | F687s | do local groups only work with registered players? |
| 16:40.35 | JeffM | yeah |
| 16:40.49 | JeffM | unless the group is for the unverified group |
| 16:40.59 | F687s | argh... |
| 16:41.13 | JeffM | otherwise how does it know the user goes in the group? |
| 16:41.42 | F687s | I would assume since it's name based... |
| 16:42.13 | JeffM | how do you know that is the correct dude with the name? |
| 16:42.18 | JeffM | with out some form of auth |
| 16:42.29 | JeffM | anyone can join as any name |
| 16:42.33 | F687s | I just need it for an observer bot... |
| 16:42.45 | F687s | either that, or rewrite the KOTH plugin... |
| 16:42.49 | JeffM | then make the bot reg |
| 16:42.59 | JeffM | or write a plug-in that sets the perms based on the name |
| 16:43.08 | JeffM | what perm do you want to give out? |
| 16:44.17 | F687s | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:44.59 | JeffM | cool, so I come onto your server, do somethign that gets the bot kicked, rejoin as the bot name, and BAM I can kill everyone ;) |
| 16:45.20 | JeffM | best to make the bot reg |
| 16:45.28 | JeffM | or do a plug-in that checks the name and the IP |
| 16:45.48 | F687s | argh...ok |
| 16:46.08 | F687s | or I could just rewire KOTH to kill everyone on cap... |
| 16:47.35 | JeffM | or make a very simple killall on cap plug-in |
| 16:47.38 | JeffM | that would be cake |
| 16:48.40 | F687s | koth doesn't cap...it uses its own killall mechanism... |
| 16:49.32 | JeffM | what exactly do you want to do ? |
| 16:49.36 | JeffM | kill everyone on a cap? |
| 16:50.07 | F687s | yes, the original plugin only kills the losing team, which makes it easy to hill-camp |
| 16:50.21 | blast007 | modify it |
| 16:50.27 | JeffM | yeah should be butt simple |
| 16:50.30 | blast007 | that should be a one or two line change |
| 16:50.34 | JeffM | like take out the team check |
| 16:51.28 | F687s | ok...let's see if this works |
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| 17:01.02 | F687s | agh, wrong function... |
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| 17:07.13 | F687s | yay! |
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| 18:13.08 | Tedius | hi JeffM |
| 18:13.12 | JeffM | hello |
| 18:13.58 | Tedius | the sounds are created/edited from various synthesizers and samplers |
| 18:14.06 | JeffM | so you made them |
| 18:14.11 | Tedius | yep |
| 18:14.15 | JeffM | cool |
| 18:14.38 | ts | Most of them sound very good. |
| 18:14.44 | JeffM | indeed |
| 18:14.46 | Tedius | <-- sound design is what he does in real life |
| 18:15.09 | Winny | :o) |
| 18:15.25 | JeffM | and would you consider turning the copyright on them over, and leting them be licensed under the lgpl? |
| 18:15.25 | Tedius | Thanks, I tried to give the tanks a "metallic" and solid sound |
| 18:15.32 | Tedius | indeed |
| 18:15.59 | ts | Tedius: I like all but the fire sound. |
| 18:16.13 | Tedius | I just reposted the missiles and explosion since your post, Jeff |
| 18:16.27 | Winny | Tedius, what program did you use to make them? |
| 18:16.29 | Tedius | you don't like the "clunk", ts? |
| 18:16.34 | JeffM | the clap part |
| 18:16.38 | JeffM | it's out of place |
| 18:16.56 | ts | Yes, it sounds like reload..but reload times are different on servers |
| 18:17.18 | JeffM | adding a mixed in reload sound would not be too hard |
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| 18:17.55 | Tedius | yeah, the "ka" of the "kaboom" doesn't work everywhere |
| 18:18.00 | ts | I already don't like bz's fire sound, it's too low, so when I don't keep that in mind people above me will hear it when they sleep :( |
| 18:18.01 | Tedius | thats what you mean, right? |
| 18:18.08 | JeffM | there is plenty of time to tweak them |
| 18:18.54 | JeffM | you also have them in the wrong format |
| 18:18.57 | ts | I would like a "smoother" shooting sound that's not so low. |
| 18:19.12 | JeffM | we do 22.050 right now, not 44.1 |
| 18:19.16 | Tedius | yeah, I'd like to EQ them better once we have the final versions, this is only beta stage |
| 18:19.30 | Tedius | ok, good to know Jeff |
| 18:19.53 | JeffM | tho if we replace the sound system we will probably pick up a better mixer that won't care about input format |
| 18:20.07 | JeffM | as they sit right now, they will all play at 1/2 speed in BZ |
| 18:21.36 | Tedius | hmmm, it doesn't seem to be half speed to me, is that possible? |
| 18:22.12 | JeffM | dunno how the mac sounds work, maybe it does a better conversion |
| 18:22.25 | JeffM | but it should all be sdl mixer |
| 18:22.31 | JeffM | sorry raw SDL |
| 18:22.32 | JeffM | no mixer |
| 18:22.39 | JeffM | if we used SDL mixer we'd not have the problem :) |
| 18:24.37 | Tedius | Winny I use Digital Performer, Reason, and a stupid app called Sound Studio |
| 18:25.06 | Winny | hmm, ok |
| 18:25.12 | whodaman- | wait! |
| 18:25.18 | Winny | ... |
| 18:25.20 | whodaman- | Not garage band?! |
| 18:25.23 | Winny | haha |
| 18:25.27 | JeffM | dtremenak / Erroneous. If I find a bunch of D6s in my travels, do you want me to pick you up a box? |
| 18:25.47 | JeffM | garage band is not a sound mixer, it's a loop based music producer |
| 18:26.05 | whodaman- | I was kidding |
| 18:26.06 | whodaman- | ... |
| 18:26.40 | F687s | not a big fan of GarageBand... |
| 18:26.57 | Tedius | Garage band is fun, cute |
| 18:27.05 | F687s | ...unless you call drag-and-dropping instruments "music production" |
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| 18:27.17 | Winny | oh boy |
| 18:27.21 | whodaman- | hai |
| 18:31.18 | Teppic | One day I will find this Peer guy, then I'll reset his connection! |
| 18:31.41 | F687s | ~seen Peer |
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| 18:32.45 | Winny | hehe |
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| 18:45.43 | Winny | JeffM, what kind of texture did you want for the tanks, again? I don't remember |
| 18:46.38 | JeffM | one that dosn't suck :) |
| 18:46.47 | Winny | describe that |
| 18:46.51 | JeffM | I don't know if it makes much sense to just make a new texture for them |
| 18:47.01 | JeffM | they need to be UVMaped properly |
| 18:47.10 | JeffM | cus right now its' just spewed over the model |
| 18:47.21 | JeffM | so it has to be a repeating patern |
| 18:47.39 | Winny | that can come later.. what should the texture be? metal, camo, jello? :p |
| 18:47.51 | JeffM | camo is stupid |
| 18:47.55 | JeffM | cus the point is not to hide the tank |
| 18:48.00 | JeffM | but we need colors for team |
| 18:48.12 | JeffM | I'd like to have the tank be metal with parts of it painted in team color |
| 18:48.13 | Tedius | brushed aluminum FTW |
| 18:48.19 | JeffM | but I don't think it can be done with out a remap |
| 18:48.58 | JeffM | so if we have to keep a repeating texture, then the current camo is fine |
| 18:49.07 | JeffM | cus I don't think anything else will look good repeated |
| 18:49.55 | Winny | darn, I was so proud of my new stuff, too :p |
| 18:50.21 | JeffM | how did it look when maped onto the tank? |
| 18:50.36 | Winny | not too bad.. lemme grab a screenie |
| 18:50.58 | JeffM | cus I mean my desires are not law, anything is open to sugestion :) |
| 18:51.53 | Winny | they're not?! ;) |
| 18:52.38 | JeffM | never have been, never will :) |
| 18:52.56 | Winny | http://bzfusion.net/bzflag/textures/bzfi1138.png |
| 18:53.25 | JeffM | the patern is good, but I don't like the super high contrast |
| 18:53.40 | JeffM | and dude.. pink.. |
| 18:54.09 | Winny | yeah, I dunno why it looks like that.. looks fine in PS |
| 18:59.34 | Winny | JeffM, is there a way to make a texture repeat less without editing the source? |
| 18:59.51 | JeffM | make it not square |
| 19:00.01 | JeffM | but that only changes the appearant aspect ratio |
| 19:00.11 | JeffM | like if you wanted to scale it, you'd have to change the code |
| 19:00.28 | JeffM | the UVs for the tank are burned into the model |
| 19:00.30 | JeffM | not computed |
| 19:00.32 | Winny | ack.. brb... managed to pop out the chat window somewow |
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| 21:40.59 | JeffM | sure |
| 21:41.05 | JeffM | you just need libs |
| 21:41.57 | Winny | should the VC8 project work? |
| 21:42.01 | JeffM | yeah |
| 21:42.03 | JeffM | it'll upgrade it |
| 21:42.07 | JeffM | but it should be fine |
| 21:42.17 | JeffM | probalby get some warnings, but it should work |
| 21:44.00 | Winny | "error C2471: cannot update program database" |
| 21:44.15 | JeffM | did you build with an older compiler first? |
| 21:44.26 | Winny | nope.. and I ran a clean |
| 21:44.29 | JeffM | oh |
| 21:44.37 | JeffM | have it only compile one thing at a time |
| 21:44.51 | JeffM | 2.0.x dosn't support multicore builds |
| 21:45.15 | JeffM | tools -> options -> builds or something -> number of projects to build at a time |
| 21:45.38 | JeffM | it's under projects and settings -> build and run |
| 21:45.43 | JeffM | set it to do one not 2 |
| 21:45.52 | Winny | hmm, it is at one |
| 21:46.12 | JeffM | odd |
| 21:49.52 | Winny | weird.. same thing |
| 21:50.05 | JeffM | what proejct does it do it in? |
| 21:50.27 | Winny | looks like all of em |
| 21:50.57 | JeffM | what target are you building? |
| 21:51.20 | Winny | http://pastebin.ca/897849 |
| 21:51.32 | Winny | building the whole project |
| 21:51.49 | JeffM | yeah but what target did you pick |
| 21:51.51 | JeffM | debug? |
| 21:51.57 | JeffM | is your disk full? |
| 21:52.01 | JeffM | or write proejcted? |
| 21:52.12 | Winny | no and no |
| 21:52.24 | Winny | I can write to the file manually |
| 21:52.29 | JeffM | is there a debug folder in the VC8 dir? |
| 21:53.49 | Winny | yep |
| 21:53.56 | JeffM | is there a pdb file in it? |
| 21:54.19 | Winny | yeah, I can see the file |
| 21:54.32 | JeffM | throw away the debug dir and try again |
| 21:54.48 | Winny | k |
| 21:58.50 | Winny | JeffM, does cURL not have a windows build package? |
| 21:59.00 | JeffM | what do you mean? |
| 21:59.11 | JeffM | is there a binary? or do we make a project for it in bzflag? |
| 21:59.33 | Winny | as in, in their download of the source, there appears to only be support for cygwin |
| 22:00.17 | JeffM | MSVC |
| 22:00.59 | JeffM | http://curl.haxx.se/latest.cgi?curl=win32-devel-msvc |
| 22:01.28 | Winny | oh.. |
| 22:01.35 | Winny | duh.. I didn't scroll down |
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| 22:02.54 | blast007 | Winny: but you can build from source with Visual Studio too |
| 22:03.01 | blast007 | it's just from the CLI, not the GUI |
| 22:03.22 | JeffM | or you can build it from the one we have in trunk |
| 22:03.31 | blast007 | :) |
| 22:04.23 | Winny | d'oh |
| 22:06.25 | Winny | what't the difference between Win32 - generic and Win32 - MVSC (besides one seems to be specifcally for VC)? |
| 22:07.22 | blast007 | Winny: ask the one who built it. but seems rather unnecessary to know, since you *know* you're building with MSVC |
| 22:07.50 | blast007 | so "generic" is probably for people who aren't building MSVC |
| 22:07.56 | blast007 | building with* |
| 22:26.07 | JeffM | MSVC does not use the same lib formats as GCC |
| 22:26.15 | JeffM | they consider GCC format libs "generic" |
| 22:26.41 | JeffM | so the difrence between 'generic' and 'msvc' is msvc works with msvc |
| 22:26.49 | blast007 | imagine that ;) |
| 22:28.28 | whodaman- | ~Winny++ |
| 22:28.34 | whodaman- | Very nice boxwall.png |
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| 22:41.57 | Winny | whodaman-, eh? |
| 22:42.08 | Winny | oh, the textues |
| 22:42.09 | Winny | heh |
| 22:42.11 | whodaman- | Winny, :D |
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| 22:53.41 | CIA-26 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r16515 10/trunk/bzflag/ (3 files in 3 dirs): frame out methods in TankGeometryUtils to load a part from an obj, yet defaulting to the old tank model if it doesn't exist ( need to have it swap textures when using old geo too ) |
| 22:54.19 | Winny | obj loading? :) |
| 22:54.32 | JeffM | notice it says "frame out" |
| 22:54.41 | JeffM | and it won't be "use this obj for the tank" |
| 22:54.49 | JeffM | it will be "use this obj for this part of the tank" |
| 22:55.00 | JeffM | but it's a start |
| 22:55.05 | Winny | indeed |
| 22:55.47 | ts | By the way, does joining a server work again? |
| 22:55.51 | blast007 | yes |
| 22:56.08 | JeffM | only took 3 people and 2 monthes |
| 22:56.11 | JeffM | it was awesome |
| 22:56.17 | ts | Since when? I tried a week ago and it didn't. |
| 22:56.45 | JeffM | since blast and dtr's last commits to it |
| 22:58.27 | blast007 | it was fixed last weekend |
| 22:58.29 | blast007 | on the 2nd |
| 22:59.44 | CIA-26 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r16516 10/trunk/bzflag/src/geometry/models/tank/ (4 files): path names for obj files to try to load for the high LOD tank parts |
| 23:01.43 | ts | Which server is known to work? |
| 23:02.01 | JeffM | all of dtr's should |
| 23:02.07 | ts | ok.. |
| 23:02.38 | DTRemenak | mine are not up to date though |
| 23:02.45 | JeffM | but they should work right? |
| 23:04.51 | ts | Wow, it compiles and can even join a server. |
| 23:05.05 | JeffM | you doubted our statements? ;) |
| 23:05.29 | ts | It did sound too good. |
| 23:05.43 | JeffM | it didn't sound good that we said it worked now? |
| 23:06.37 | ts | To be honest in the first moment I thought it was a joke. |
| 23:06.57 | DTRemenak | oh ye of little faith! |
| 23:07.48 | CIA-26 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r16517 10/trunk/bzflag/src/geometry/TankGeometryMgr.cxx: whitespace |
| 23:08.29 | ts | Mmm, now that it works I could probably fix a bug I introduced half a year ago. |
| 23:14.30 | JeffM | exTabSettings FTW! |
| 23:21.40 | DTRemenak | :) |
| 23:25.46 | CIA-26 | BZFlag: 03JeffM2501 * r16518 10/trunk/bzflag/src/geometry/TankGeometryMgr.cxx: quickcheese parse out an obj file to build up the GL lists for the high res parts if they exist. |
| 23:27.19 | JeffM | untested of course, but uncalled |
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